Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Kagebutterfly on June 19, 2008, 01:49:21 PM
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I've always wondered how Animorphs would have been different if Elfangor hadn't died. I mean, would he have become a mentor kind of character in the series,
Ax might have been saved from the ocean faster,
Jake could have been second in command, thus less stressed
Ax would have his brother
Would Cassie become a better artisic morpher
Would the Animorphs even have learned about the truth of the war
Would the Andalite fleet come sooner
Heck, would Elfangor even have given the Animorphs their powers and broken the law of Seerow's Kindness...
Any thoughts, people?
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Heck, would Elfangor even have given the Animorphs their powers and broken the law of Seerow's Kindness...
Whoa, good point. If he weren't dying, he probably wouldn't have. The Animorphs might never have been given the ability to morph. So, what if they hadn't? MM4 showed that they cut through that construction sight for a reason, but if Elfangor had lived...
Good point you have there. Maybe things would have been better, maybe not.
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if elfangor hadn't died, nothing would have happened. he would have had the time matrix
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If he hadn't died, he would have used the Time Matrix, as stated earlier.
But let's say the Matrix didn't exist. He would have likely still given them morphing power to help him. He would have become a kind of mentor/teacher. Kind of like how Splinter was to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And don't tell me you don't know the TMNT. I will hunt you down.
It's kind of a cliche, I think, which may be why Applegate had him die instead of survive.
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Yeah, I agree. And, it made the books so much more interesting and exciting.
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I agree as well, he wold tell them everything most likely and most of the things that happened, wouldn't have happened.
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He would have become a kind of mentor/teacher. Kind of like how Splinter was to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
I was thinking Zordon from Power Rangers, but yours may be a more apt comparison
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He would have become a kind of mentor/teacher. Kind of like how Splinter was to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
I was thinking Zordon from Power Rangers, but yours may be a more apt comparison
Yes, more than Zordon because he'd be battle capable.
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He would have become a kind of mentor/teacher. Kind of like how Splinter was to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
I was thinking Zordon from Power Rangers, but yours may be a more apt comparison
Yes, more than Zordon because he'd be battle capable.
I'd say neither, he may be the mentor, but he's not old, he's an Andalite warrior in his prime. He wouldn't just sit on the sidelines training them, he'd be in battle with them, more like the general leading the charge.
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I've always wondered how Animorphs would have been different if Elfangor hadn't died. I mean, would he have become a mentor kind of character in the series,
Ax might have been saved from the ocean faster,
Jake could have been second in command, thus less stressed
Ax would have his brother
Would Cassie become a better artisic morpher
Would the Animorphs even have learned about the truth of the war
Would the Andalite fleet come sooner
Heck, would Elfangor even have given the Animorphs their powers and broken the law of Seerow's Kindness...
Any thoughts, people?
You left out a major thing. Tobias would have his father.
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I've always wondered how Animorphs would have been different if Elfangor hadn't died. I mean, would he have become a mentor kind of character in the series,
Ax might have been saved from the ocean faster,
Jake could have been second in command, thus less stressed
Ax would have his brother
Would Cassie become a better artisic morpher
Would the Animorphs even have learned about the truth of the war
Would the Andalite fleet come sooner
Heck, would Elfangor even have given the Animorphs their powers and broken the law of Seerow's Kindness...
Any thoughts, people?
You left out a major thing. Tobias would have his father.
THAT would be interesting. We know that Elfangor recognizes his son, but how would he break the news to him. Would he prevent Tobias from getting stuck in morph, even though Tobias subconsciously wanted to become a nothlit rather than return to his uncle?
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I figured the Tobias connection was plain as day, yes Elfangor would have told Tobias I think, or something, he may have even searched for Lorean...
Although I doubt they would be a happy family again.
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well if Elfangor would have been alive......there would have been no animorphs.....since I don't think Elfangor was a kinda guy who would risk others(specially kids) life for his own people....and definately not Tobias's life.....And even if there would have been an animorphs.....maybe the book would not be that interesting....what say??
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He would definitely use the Time Matrix sooner or later if he lived... probably no Animorphs... since he would make the Andalite fleet even more prepared, thus winning the war on Earth before Jake, Cassie, Tobias, Rachel, and Marco would even notice.
Marco would never see his mother again.
Rachel would never be the dark killer.
Tobias would never know his family and never get any friends.
Cassie would still love animals (and Jake).
And Jake might prolly lose his brother, but still become an average everyday person.
But Aximili would still be the inferior little brother... :-\
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If he had the time matrix he could have destroyed the yeerk invasion by killing Visser One when she arrived on earth. Then he would take his place with Loren and raise Tobias. The question is whether or not he would have stayed on earth or dragged Loren and Tobias to The Andalite Homeworld and made them Andalite Nothlits so that they would not be outsiders.
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well... not really... Elfangor doesn't know "Loren" is Visser one. He'll probably just use the Time Matrix to strengthen the fleet.
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I doubt Elfangor would've given the Animorphs their powers if he lived. However, if he thought he was about to die, then he would've still given it to them. Imagine his surprise if he ended up waking up the next morning finding that the Animorphs had saved him somehow (maybe he passed out or something once he gave them the powers?). Would he think that he caused not one, but five abominations this time? :P
If he was alive and well that night, he probably would've used the Time Matrix, like how everyone else has said already (or he would've ran away and then snuck back). If Elfangor got a hold of the Time Matrix again, I wouldn't be surprised if the Ellimist actually did interfere with him then. The last time he touched that thing it was chaos, so the Ellimist would probably have no choice but to step in.
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The time matrix was only a failure because multiple minds were using it. Remember Visser 4 was quite successful in his attempt with it. Also, Elfangor knew Tobias was in the group so I doubt that he would considered his own son an abomination.
Interestingly enough, you could argue that David was the animorph's abomination.
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If that was an abomination, what do you call the buffa-human and that ant in #39?
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i'd always wondered why elfangor didn't try morphing at the end..
they had a few good minutes, and he obviously wasn't mentally damaged, just wounded.
*sigh*
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morphing i don't think would help because all he have is big things and then he gets shot.
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Does anyone ever think maybe he was just ready for it to be over? Maybe he died because he wanted to hand the "baton" tosomeone else and be done with life.
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ya i thought of that but most fight to the end. I guess he final wanted one last good thing in his life to give his son a fighting chance
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Please, demos, I'm begging ya...Punctuation!
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it's not that hard to understand. unless he's edited his post, it's only missing commas. not too big of a problem.
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Not sure what to say about the other stuff, but I'm pretty sure Elfangor would try to break the news to Tobias. Remember how upset he was in AC when the Ellimist yanked him away and he learned Loren was pregnant?
It was pretty much "Woah! I have a kid, dude! This changes everything, you can't take me away from that!"
Oh man, now I have the whole Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker thing in my head. Except with Elfangor and Tobias. ::)
Elfangor: No, I am your father!
Tobias: It's not true!
Elfangor: Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
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If there's one thing I admired about the book where Tobias found out Elfangor was his father, it's that it DIDN'T go down the Star Wars "I am your father" route. It was very well handled.
And then the TV show broke it. :(
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how far back would Elfangor go if he had the time matrix? could literally, he could've gone all the way back to Seerow.
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Please, demos, I'm begging ya...Punctuation!
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and i think he would go back to his wife and start then you know try to alert the andilites
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If he had the time matrix he could have destroyed the yeerk invasion by killing Visser One when she arrived on earth. Then he would take his place with Loren and raise Tobias. The question is whether or not he would have stayed on earth or dragged Loren and Tobias to The Andalite Homeworld and made them Andalite Nothlits so that they would not be outsiders.
I would have had Elfangor go back in time to warn Seerow to not give the Yeerks advanced technology in the first place!
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Then the books would have never happened