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Title: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: morfowt on February 25, 2009, 05:19:45 AM
ok so the books always described the hork-bajir as looking NOTHING like a human. well... 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head, 2 eyes... sounds remotely human to me... what are your thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: Chad32 on February 25, 2009, 08:38:24 AM
I don't remember where it says, or if it says, that Hork-Bajir are nothing like Humans. So I don't know the context around that statement.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: morfowt on February 25, 2009, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: #23: the Pretender
But beyond that, there aren't a lot of similarities between alien bodies
and say, humans. Real life turns out not to be like Star Trek. Aliens are not just humans wearing funny ears, nose putty, and costumes. There is nothing remotely human about a Hork-Bajir.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: CDJV on February 25, 2009, 09:14:56 AM
I think they mean, if you saw the silhouette of a Hork-Bajir, you would relize "Hey, that ain't no homo sapien!"
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: rossabo on February 25, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: #23: the Pretender
But beyond that, there aren't a lot of similarities between alien bodies
and say, humans. Real life turns out not to be like Star Trek. Aliens are not just humans wearing funny ears, nose putty, and costumes. There is nothing remotely human about a Hork-Bajir.
I think she was referring to the whole Star-Trek concept of aliens, where they simply have funny foreheads or different colored skin but are completely human.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: esplin on February 25, 2009, 02:51:15 PM
They're like humans in a very basic way.  But all over they're nothing like humans or anything on Earth.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: Phoenix004 on February 25, 2009, 03:00:47 PM
Hork-Bajir are roughly humanoid, but so are Chimpanzees and you wouldn't confuse a Human with a Chimp.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: esplin on February 25, 2009, 03:08:10 PM
Some chimps and hork-bajir are smarter the people though....
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: Phoenix004 on February 25, 2009, 03:13:15 PM
lol, very true Russell!
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: goom on February 25, 2009, 05:42:03 PM
i'd say they're humanoid, but look nothing like humans.
how about that?
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: EmberGryphon on February 25, 2009, 06:56:47 PM
I wouldn't consider them humanoid, myself. ^^() I mean, birds have one head, two legs, two "arms" (well, wings, but skeletally similar to arms), and two eyes, too. But birds also have a tail, legs jointed like a Hork-Bajir's, and a beak. I consider Hork-Bajir to be more like a large dinosaur or bulky bird than a human, personally...
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: Starsword on February 25, 2009, 08:25:14 PM
I always thought it was funny. "Alright folks, go for the throats. They're like us, but not. Just slap the humans around for a bit though."
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: goom on February 25, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
I wouldn't consider them humanoid, myself. ^^() I mean, birds have one head, two legs, two "arms" (well, wings, but skeletally similar to arms), and two eyes, too. But birds also have a tail, legs jointed like a Hork-Bajir's, and a beak. I consider Hork-Bajir to be more like a large dinosaur or bulky bird than a human, personally...

well, definitely more humanoid than a yeerk or taxxon :taxxon:
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: EmberGryphon on February 25, 2009, 08:57:30 PM
Ffff Taxxon smiley! =D
 :taxxon:

....That said. Yeah, they're more humanoid than those two critters, I agree. But their faces are pretty far from human, their bodies are... well, not completely un-human, but certainly heavily modified. Personally, I'd consider Andalites more humanoid just 'cause of the head and torso, but that might just be my opinion. ^^()

And yeah, what Starsword said always made me confused, too. *laughs* I guess you can see it as hypocritical or altruistic, depending on your mood.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: AniDragon on February 26, 2009, 08:20:37 AM
I think people might be confusing the term "humanoid" with "bipedal".

Hork-Bajir are bipeds, which means they have 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head, 2 eyes, etc. Well, not necessarily all of those, but the 2 arms and 2 legs bit, at least. But being bipedal in itself doesn't make one humanoid.

And really, when you look at just the basic bone structure, there are a lot of similarities between many animals. Disreguaring things with exoskeletons, and snakes and stuff like that, of course. But if you take a look at bone charts, you'll notice that both humans and, say, dogs, have a spine. They both have clavicals. They both have tribia bones, and femurs. They both have hip bones, they both have scapulas. They both have rib cages. They might be slightly different in length and width, but they're still identifiable enough to have the same names.

So, the fact that a Hork-Bajir shares that? Probably just because it's a successful way for nature (or in this case the Arn) to make bodies.
Title: Re: Hork-bajir not similar to humans?
Post by: goom on February 26, 2009, 11:24:55 PM
I think people might be confusing the term "humanoid" with "bipedal".

Hork-Bajir are bipeds, which means they have 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head, 2 eyes, etc. Well, not necessarily all of those, but the 2 arms and 2 legs bit, at least. But being bipedal in itself doesn't make one humanoid.

there you go. that's the word i was looking for.