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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2008, 09:03:41 PM »
anyone remember the series John Doe that guy knew everything exept his identity, sounds like claircognizance mixed with amnesia.
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2008, 10:38:32 PM »
I believe in it, I just wish I had it! :P

I still think that one day humans will evolve super powers like telepathy, hehe

That belief is actually gaining ground in light of all this 2012 stuff.  "Apocalypse" actually means "pulling back the veil".  One school of thought believes that the world will come to some great, mind-altering revelation in that year.  (just passing on the theory)
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2008, 10:48:54 PM »
oh don't talk about the appoalypse, now im all worried lol
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2008, 10:50:36 PM »
Sorry, my bad  :-X
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 11:49:20 PM »
from what i understand there are 6 levels of mental powers
 level 6 is the weakest level 1 is very powerful.
level 6 abilities include all  psionics and very low level empaths.
Psionics is a low level mental link to exchange images and sounds. It doesn't rank up with a telepath's powers, as it is comparatively weak in proportion, but it is functional.
Level 5, 4, and 3 are tele/empaths of varing strengths
level 2's where it gets interesting in addition they have all forms of cognition and all forms of elemental mental control and telekinesis
level 1's have all the abilities of level 2 but also clairvoyance/auditory omniscience illusion making abilities and mind control/hypnosis, and teleportation. (note i made the number system up don't get all mad at me over this.)
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2008, 11:52:15 PM »
I wish KA had gone into more detail on what Elfangor did to Tobias in book 1. You know where he put his hand on his head and gave Tobias an information burst which told him about the Yeerk Pool? It would've be cool to see Ax do that, or at least mention it. It's never mentioned after book one.

i think it was one of those things she did in number 1 and then decided not to do again in the rest of the books but ive always wondered about that

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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2008, 08:21:09 AM »
I wish KA had gone into more detail on what Elfangor did to Tobias in book 1. You know where he put his hand on his head and gave Tobias an information burst which told him about the Yeerk Pool? It would've be cool to see Ax do that, or at least mention it. It's never mentioned after book one.
Yeah! I've wondered about this once, too.
They must have used technological devices to augment their telepathic abilities. The Andalite military has their internal clock/compass gizmo and what was the deal with the Mirrowave call again?
Wish these things were more elaborated.

The Andalites definately have a deep understanding of telepathic communication.
They've obviously learnt to incorporate this form of communication onto their technologies. Their computer systems function in thought-speak language and the Escafil device can transfer this telepathic ability along with the power to morph.
This is why Ax and Alloran are capable of communicating normally without the use of the human mouth and its also why I don't think the Anirmophs should have been retained the ability to thought-speak when in their proper physical bodies. It wouldnt make sense.

I've wodered how the Andalites live back home. I picture them evolved from herds, so a lot of grazing would still be a part of their routines, except this would involve a lot of running activities.
Evolution did not give them a mouth, thus killing the whole dairy thing associated with grazers. But they developed telepathy through thought-speech communication. And considering technologies they've designed, such as the 'thought-speech-interfaced' computers and mirrorwave calls, (heck, even some of their flora has a limited level of telepathy), I would say telepathy is a BIG CHARACTERISTIC of their lifestyle.

This ability seems to match their like for open spaces. It would enable them to communicate normally over fair distances. I can imagine members of their respective families in the distances of their Garibba trees, living together, yet, here and there; not needing to be right next to each other in order to be a 'living together'.
It brings the question of how big their scoops are. I only pictured them using the scoops for sleeping and such. ALSO, I cannot imagine the Andalites NOT DESIGNING some sort of roofing for rain cover and warmth at night. Unless humidity is not a problem in the air over there. A scoop that is a mere hole on the ground seems a bit peculiar to me.


I believe the Leerans have the deepest level of telepathy, by far. Sadly, it wasn't explored much in the series, for it would be unethical to go around morphing a Leeran in this war they were fighting (what, there are so much better ways to identify a Controller, taking turns watching them 24hrs for 3 days, not withstanding at all ;)). But I think the Yeerks in a way use telepathic communication within a host's brain. And on a level par with the Leerans, by being in sync with the host's brain, they have access to everything that host has had. So, they are correct when they say that the host becomes an extension of themselves.

PS: It is also my opinion that thought-speak communication was a little overused in the series. Too many aliens were using it and it's kind of an easy way out to the early established fact that Gallard was meant to be most common of the outerspace languages. In fact, I think only the Yeerks used the language in the series, go figure.
Say one thing for the Yeerks, they are mostly evil-helpless-party-poop-spreading-eclectic-scavengers, but they sure are versatile slugs.
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2008, 04:29:25 AM »
I'm continuing to make the role playing game about Animorphs... and thought about the thought-speak and telepathy...
Now, with what you said, Gafrash, I'm not very sure I'll put thought-speak to Iskoorts and Helmacrons (I think I won't put Mecoras in the role playing game...).
And Gallard is also a problem... not a big one but...
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2008, 08:18:10 PM »
What's the simplest spectrum we could possibly group them?
What were the species of telepathic capacity again?!

High Level (The total psyche: persona, emotions, memory, skills, telepathic-speech): Leerans. Ellimist? Cryak? Drode?

Medium Level (Persona: memory, skills, personality): Yeerks.

Complex Low-Level (Open and Private thought-speech communication): Andalites.

Simple Low-Level (Thought-speech-only): Helmacrons, Garatrons, Iskoorts, Mercora,

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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2008, 10:24:50 PM »
I believe it exists, just not on earth...yet.

I know it exists on Earth and beyond. On Earth it is most common amongst twins but it is possible for regular people to learn it with practice. As for the aliens here, did i ever say I was human? But I'm not alien either. At the moment I look human and act human (most of the time) but I once tried to morph cat after petting one of mine and I couldn't move my thumb. I felt a chill go through my body and felt... something. I'm still trying to figure out what. I don't know if I'm a very special human or a part alien part human or what but I am not remotely a normal pre-teen. Did I mention when ever I try to morph it comes so close... so, so close. I know something is happening to me. I may keep you posted on me. But if I become an animorph and Yeerks do exist, then I will not notify anyone.
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2008, 05:19:07 AM »
Good, Gafrash ^^ Maybe I'll use your levels of telepathy. Thanks ^^
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2008, 10:00:35 PM »
As much as I'd love to talk about subjective sanity and objective perceptions, I would be loath to call a kettle black.

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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2008, 11:11:52 PM »
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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2008, 11:27:49 PM »
As much as I'd love to talk about subjective sanity and objective perceptions, I would be loath to call a kettle black.

...still, and all...

There is a fine line between loving a series and attempting to live it. Good luck with that, T-Fan. Maybe we shall see each other some day in Arkham.  ;)

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Re: Levels of telepathy
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2008, 07:19:17 AM »
Yes, I suppose that there are.
Thanks, Gafrash. ;)

When I was a tyke, I was pretty convinced that the animorphs were real, but I had a hard time believing the reality of the Yeerks, so logic eventually forced me to realise that, without Yeerks, why have animorphs? Sad moment, but powerful. It showed me that evil's sole purpose for existence was to define goodness.

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