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Morphing Problems
« on: July 30, 2008, 04:36:13 PM »
We all know that if you morph something smaller the excess mass is extruded into Z-Space. 

But where does the extra mass come from if you morph something larger?

Mass simply coming into existence breaks the laws of conservation of matter.  The only way that that could happen is if a large amount of matter was created by energy, but the energy required to do that is enormous.  So where does the extra mass come from?

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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 04:43:58 PM »
I think there is exist mass in Z space as well. Ax mentions it in 12 The Reaction that Rachel has to make a whole crocodile with the excess mass in Z space.
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 05:22:14 PM »
I don't know. Ax also says in #18 that there is absolutely nothing in Zero-space, not even a few molecules (or particles? I don't remember the term) like in normal space.

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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 05:28:49 PM »
More morphing problems? Come ON K.A.!!!!!!
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 05:50:19 PM »
Hmm...good point.

Maybe they borrow it from others in morph elsewhere in the universe?  Does time exist in Z-Space?  If not it could be any number of things that wouldn't necessarily be intuitive to humans.

Or of course it could be the old standby explanation:

MAGIC!  ;D
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 06:03:16 PM »
Maybe its where all that andalite waste goes. They do have one hell of a bathroom.
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 07:53:55 PM »
Maybe its where all that andalite waste goes. They do have one hell of a bathroom.

Ha!  Maybe so.  It bears...less consideration.  :-X
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 11:10:40 PM »
I always wondered where the extra mass came from too...

Maybe there's some kind of "mass repository" in a little corner of Z-space, created by Andalite scientists for use when morphing. xD 

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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 09:36:39 AM »
Since the Andalites are estimated to be at least a century or two ahead of us and KA doesn't have a degree in advanced Physics, we don't really know enough about Zero Space to be able to guess how the morphing technology works. Zero Space is said to be the opposite of normal space, like matter and anti-matter. Regular space consists of a vacuum, which is complete nothingness. Perhaps Zero Space is the opposite, in the sense that there is nothing solid there, but instead consists of 'potential' mass. This potential mass could then be used to create the extra mass needed in larger morphs.

And before you ask, I have NO idea what I'm talking about, but it seemed to make more sense in my head!  :P
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 09:55:14 AM »
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 10:35:52 AM »
I also thought about that... I think this is a KASU ^_^'
But if we really wanna explain that... may be the extra mass Rachel use when she morphs an elephant come from an Andalite who is morphing a chadoo or something like that ^_^' ... not a very good explanation ^_^'
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 10:39:23 AM »
Since the Andalites are estimated to be at least a century or two ahead of us and KA doesn't have a degree in advanced Physics, we don't really know enough about Zero Space to be able to guess how the morphing technology works.
I agree, heck, scientists are exploring dark matter, something they thought was just nothingness. Ax is always laughing at human science, so it seems plausible that its just too advanced for our understanding.
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 10:35:04 PM »
My Assumption is this;

Matter and Energy can not be created or destroyed, but they can be transmuted, something the Andalite Race seems fond of doing to everything.

So if Z-Space acts as I think it does, it can serve as a massive raw energy siphon.
And the morphing technology just might convert the energy into mass when needed, bleeding it back into Z-Space when its no logner needed.

Think of it as a combo of the Star Trek Replicator and the Stargate ZPM.
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2008, 09:16:13 AM »
My Assumption is this;

Matter and Energy can not be created or destroyed, but they can be transmuted, something the Andalite Race seems fond of doing to everything.

So if Z-Space acts as I think it does, it can serve as a massive raw energy siphon.
And the morphing technology just might convert the energy into mass when needed, bleeding it back into Z-Space when its no logner needed.

Think of it as a combo of the Star Trek Replicator and the Stargate ZPM.

Is it weird that I understood that? And that I know what Tempus Fugit means?  :P
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Re: Morphing Problems
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2008, 09:17:52 AM »
weird you understood? no. heck, I understood.