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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2010, 01:33:41 AM »
So if they're going to update cultural references and technology, how are they going to do it without making hash of the chronology?  To wit: Edriss 562 landed during the first Gulf War and Loren's father fought in Vietnam.

excellent point there. i used to think that they could perhaps keep those aspects of the book, like keep lorens, lorens fathers, edriss's etc. chronology as it is. but since they are updatign the technology and pop culture refrences to make it as present day, then inevitably chonology has got to be altered as well in relative to characters ages. if loren they change lorens dad to be a gulf war vet, then he would be like around 45-50 atm, loren would have met elfangor sometime in late 90's, like 1998, have tobias in like 2000, and now tobias would be like 10ish. its kinda confusing i know lol.

and then elfangors chronology and the hork-bajir chronoiles choronologuy gona need to be changed as well to fit in with the series overall.

so id much rather they just keep it as it is. 

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How Would YOU Modernize The Relaunch?
« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2011, 03:13:05 PM »
My friend and I were discussing the re-releases and how we would update the pop culture references. This was done solely for lighthearted fun. Here are some things we came up with...

*The Noah Wylie from ER jokes has to be changed to the current medical shows. How about instead of saying "Oh the cute girl will date Noah Wylie from ER!" change it to "Gotta avoid House?"  *shrug*

*At one point Cassie mentions singing the song "MMMbop" I would change it to some random Justin Beiber song (I'm not a fan of Justin Beiber, but I think it would fit the scenario)

*Book #20 (The Discovery): The sweatshirt signed by Steve Young  I would change to a Forrest Griffin autograph instead.

*Megamorphs #1: Marco mentions playing the game Wipeout.  I would change that to Gran Turismo 5

*When Marco mentions setting the VCR to record Buffy, I would make him say instead that he should have set the DVR to record Dr. Who  (again, not a fan but I couldn't think of anything else)

*And instead of calling Rachel Xena (because not a lot of younger teens in the intended age group even know who that is anymore) I will have Marco refer to Rachel as Lara Croft from Tomb Raider.

*Megadeth should be renamed Slipknot and Spawn should be renamed Wolverine  (again, this is just for fun!)

So, I want to hear what you guys would personally change and update if given the choice :)  Let's discuss!
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Re: How Would YOU Modernize The Relaunch?
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2011, 04:11:37 PM »
The one thing we have to remember is this: Despite any pop culture changes to the re-releases (which reference modern things), the original books will always be the true canon (except for KASUs). The series takes place in and is set in the late 90s, and it has to be this way because of the Chronicles backstories that take place in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and early 90s.

Shifting the entire internal canon timeline forward by ten years throws so much out of balance, so we have to remember that these lenticular versions fix KASUs and update pop culture references, but they shouldn't be used as a reference.

That being said, Cassie suggests singing "MMMbob" when they're about to give David the morphing power. And of the changes you suggested, I have the biggest bone to pick with the VCR -> DVR change. That's more than just names of things, that's deliberately shifting forward the technological timeline. Scholastic can make those other changes you mentioned if they want, but I will be anxious to see what they do to technology of the 1990s, namely VCRs and dial-up internet.

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Re: How Would YOU Modernize The Relaunch?
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2011, 04:25:50 PM »
Yea, I was hoping to just inspire a fun game of sorts. This was not intended to be serious. The originals will always be my true canon.

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Re: How Would YOU Modernize The Relaunch?
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2011, 05:09:03 PM »
similar thread already made. merging.
http://animorphsforum.com/index.php?topic=5410.0

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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2011, 06:06:59 PM »
Looking at my new copy of The Visitor, I thought you guys might want to know what physical changes have been made to the book(s).

The very first page (page v), on the opposite side of the cover, has the first six book covers in black and white, with the http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs URL under them.

The listed books on page iii are only the first four.

Scholastic is listed as being in New York, Toronto, London, Auckland, Sydney, Mexico City, New Delhi, and Hong Kong. I don't know if this is new or what, but whatever.

Page i still says "For Michael". The "If you purchased this book without a cover..." and "No part of this publication may be reproduced..." messages are there. The copyright is still ©1996, but it also says "This edition first printing, May 2011"

No morphing animation in the lower-right corner.

The sample of The Encounter at the end is the scene where Tobias and the others are in the woods as wolves. But there are "* * *" dividers used twice to skip over sections, so it actually covers a lot. Is this different than the original print of The Visitor? It ends at the "They were living nightmares" line as they're trying to demorph from wolves.

The ads in the back of the book are these: Goosebumps Horrorland, The Owls/Guardians of Ga'Hoole, and Wolves of the Beyond, a new series by Guardians author Kathryn Lasky.

The last major thing is credits for the new covers: Cover art is by Craig White, and Cover design is by Steve Scott. Neither of them are on Wikipedia.

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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2011, 07:31:35 PM »
I posted this already in the "pre-order" thread, but I figure it'd be useful here.  I'll add to it as I notice things.  I've only done the first few chapters so far, and I'm sure others will want to add to the list.  Maybe we should make a compilation?

Changes from the beginning of #1: The Invasion:

[spoiler=Edits/Changes, The Invasion]
-The scene where Jake "thinks" and Tobias "hears" his thought speech has been changed to say that it only works when you're morphing

-"I have a Sega at home" is changed to "I have a system at home"

-A few grammatical changes, like a comma deleted, the phrase "mall area" changed to just "mall".

-The word "cloned" changed into "fused" to describe Elfangor looking like someone had fused a person and a deer together.

-There is no inset cover picture, and the pages don't "morph" when you flip them.

-The back phrase that everyone knows and loves has been cut down to something to the effect of:

"We can't tell you who we are.  Or where we live.  It's too risky, and we've got to be careful.  But everyone is in danger.  Yeah.  Even you."
[/spoiler]

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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2011, 08:43:32 PM »
I think the biggest change of all is the very first KASU of Jake thinking at Tobias. I'll quote the change here for people:

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[spoiler]I am talking to a cat! I realized. And I thought Tobias was crazy?
I wondered if Tobias had heard my thought. I concentrated. Tobias, can you hear me?
He didn't respond.
"I just thought something at you. Did you hear me?" I asked.
<No. I don't think it works that way. You have to be morphed first. Hey, watch this.>
Suddenly Tobias leaped...[/spoiler]

Anyone care to post a quote from the original for comparison?
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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2011, 12:11:28 AM »
Spoiler please; prepare for incoming new fans.  Actually, now would be a good time to figure out what our spoiler policy should be.
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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2011, 08:02:01 AM »
All those changes seem to be for the better, to me.

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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2011, 12:44:01 PM »
Even the back cover being truncated to sound terse and lame? ::)  What did you like about the series, in the first place, Slushie? 


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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2011, 01:46:53 PM »
The back cover is changed but it doesn't sound any more awesome or lame IMO. It's just different, that's all.

The characters, the story, and the multiple levels to the writing is what I loved to the series. NONE of that is changed. And the things I didn't like, are being fixed it seems.

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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2011, 08:28:19 PM »
I think the biggest change of all is the very first KASU of Jake thinking at Tobias. I'll quote the change here for people:

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[spoiler]I am talking to a cat! I realized. And I thought Tobias was crazy?
I wondered if Tobias had heard my thought. I concentrated. Tobias, can you hear me?
He didn't respond.
"I just thought something at you. Did you hear me?" I asked.
<No. I don't think it works that way. You have to be morphed first. Hey, watch this.>
Suddenly Tobias leaped...[/spoiler]

Anyone care to post a quote from the original for comparison?

The original quote was:
[spoiler]I am talking to a cat! I realized. And I thought Tobias was crazy?
I wondered if Tobias had heard my thought. I concentrated. Tobias, can you hear me?
<Yeah,> he said. <I hear you.>
"Did you hear my thoughts before that?" I asked.
<No. I don't think it works that way. You have to think at me for me to hear. Hey, watch this.>
Suddenly Tobias leaped...[/spoiler]
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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2011, 09:57:52 PM »
Amazing.

Post Merged: March 21, 2011, 02:06:41 AM
Does anyone think we should make a section on the Wikipedia articles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invasion_(Animorphs) and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Visitor_(Animorphs)

That covers the changes made in the re-release? (This would naturally be done on the other book articles, when those 2011 releases are made.)

I'll propose this on the relevant Wikipedia talk pages, too.
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Re: Re-release editing/changes
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2011, 02:22:21 AM »
Not sure if it's a spoiler persay, but just in case...Just read that Marco's new nickname for Rachel in the re-release is now

[spoiler]"Storm" (from X-Men) instead of "Xena: Warrior Princess".[/spoiler]

How lame... Her new nickname just doesn't make Rachel seem as badass any more. I mean, I know they wanted to update old pop culture references, but they couldn't have picked someone cooler?
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