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Offline EscafilDevice

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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2008, 05:58:18 PM »
Quote from: ANItiger13 on July 07, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
well...scholastics publish the book...

He's got a point there...

And you missed my point entirely.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2008, 05:59:26 PM »
Quote from: jsh357 on July 07, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
Quote from: EscafilDevice on July 07, 2008, 05:48:56 PM
And about your maturity levels thing. I'm seventeen years old, so I read that book when I was ten. I thought it was crap back then and I've thought it was crap ever since. My opinion didn't change much, and I'm a pretty smart girl. If anything, my reasons for disliking it have become more complex.

I said nothing about maturity, though I can understand interpreting what I posted that way.  There's a difference between "studying something for four years" and "living for four years," which is why I point out that age itself has nothing to do with the way we interpet fiction.  And naturally, I wasn't implying that your opinion would totally change.  Mine did (or actually, I never read #54 before, but I have a feeling I would have hated it then), but yours stayed the same, only with new reasons.  In either case, it's a good reason to reread the series, eh?

And I certainly didn't mean to imply that anyone was unintelligent.  I'd agree; you seem pretty smart, even though I disagree with some of your points.  The fact that you can back up your points proves it well enough.

Thanks. :)

Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was illustrating a contrast.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2008, 06:00:54 PM »
Quote from: EscafilDevice on July 07, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
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well...scholastics publish the book...

He's got a point there...

And you missed my point entirely.
ok...so what's was your point?
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #108 on: July 07, 2008, 06:03:09 PM »
Missed your point? Did either of them say ANYTHING to suggest that?

Maybe they were making a separate point, with nothing whatever to do with your point. Did that not occur to you? Take some time off from being surly and open your mind, please. :) The world is actually sometimes quite a nice place.

Has no one considered that perhaps K.A. could not write a different ending, BECAUSE of Scholastic? Many publishers have a MAJOR control over what the writer is actually allowed to print.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #109 on: July 07, 2008, 06:04:58 PM »
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 06:00:54 PM
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well...scholastics publish the book...

He's got a point there...

And you missed my point entirely.
ok...so what's was your point?

I think she meant that some people have tried to depict KA as a textbook "Pure artist," starving in the streets (and enjoying it!), which makes it ironic that she didn't mind advertising for a huge company like Scholastic at the end of the series she was so "passionate about writing."

Not that I totally agree, but I think that was it.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #110 on: July 07, 2008, 06:05:13 PM »
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: EscafilDevice on July 07, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: ANItiger13 on July 07, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
well...scholastics publish the book...

He's got a point there...

And you missed my point entirely.
ok...so what's was your point?

Many of you wrote paragraphs about how "KA was staying true to her artistic vision" by writing the last book the way she did, but then she panders to us to buy her new series.

If Scholastic asked her to do it, why didn't she refuse? You would think she would have the class.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #111 on: July 07, 2008, 06:05:31 PM »
Quote from: jsh357 on July 07, 2008, 06:04:58 PM
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: EscafilDevice on July 07, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
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Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
well...scholastics publish the book...

He's got a point there...

And you missed my point entirely.
ok...so what's was your point?

I think she meant that some people have tried to depict KA as a textbook "Pure artist," starving in the streets (and enjoying it!), which makes it ironic that she didn't mind advertising for a huge company like Scholastic at the end of the series she was so "passionate about writing."

Not that I totally agree, but I think that was it.

Exactly.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #112 on: July 07, 2008, 06:07:01 PM »
Quote from: Estelore on July 07, 2008, 06:03:09 PM
Has no one considered that perhaps K.A. could not write a different ending, BECAUSE of Scholastic? Many publishers have a MAJOR control over what the writer is actually allowed to print.

Hmm.  This is possible, indeed.  I would hope not, but considering that KA has mentioned wanting to write six more books in the past, I wouldn't count it out as a possibility.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #113 on: July 07, 2008, 06:08:03 PM »
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If Scholastic asked her to do it, why didn't she refuse? You would think she would have the class.
 
 


Contract. Legal issues. Breaking contract = REALLY BAD IDEA.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #114 on: July 07, 2008, 06:08:19 PM »
Quote from: EscafilDevice on July 07, 2008, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: EscafilDevice on July 07, 2008, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: ANItiger13 on July 07, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: morfowt on July 07, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
well...scholastics publish the book...

He's got a point there...

And you missed my point entirely.
ok...so what's was your point?

Many of you wrote paragraphs about how "KA was staying true to her artistic vision" by writing the last book the way she did, but then she panders to us to buy her new series.

If Scholastic asked her to do it, why didn't she refuse? You would think she would have the class.
maybe if she refused...scholasti cs won't publish the last book? I don't know how the writing industry works.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #115 on: July 07, 2008, 06:09:43 PM »
Yeah, like Este said, a contract.

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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #116 on: July 07, 2008, 06:29:59 PM »
Quote from: Estelore on July 07, 2008, 06:08:03 PM
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If Scholastic asked her to do it, why didn't she refuse? You would think she would have the class.
 
 


Contract. Legal issues. Breaking contract = REALLY BAD IDEA.

So? She's an "artist", she writes what she wants to write.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #117 on: July 07, 2008, 06:32:30 PM »
Mmm-hmmmn. But would you keep writing if, every time you DID, the publisher edited out everything that you wanted and totally changed it, then threatened to sue you if you tried that again?
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #118 on: July 07, 2008, 06:37:25 PM »
I'm still not quite sure what the thing is with suing, but the first part about changing, yeah that'd be bad.
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Re: K.A's response to the final book criticsm.
« Reply #119 on: July 07, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »
Sueing someone is taking them to court and accusing them of something, demanding money or prison time in compensations.
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