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Offline CounterInstinct

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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2008, 03:56:39 AM »
Yeah, you're probably right Escafil... thinking about it, Tobias's and Mellissa's personalities might be different from the "actual" Tobias and Mellisa. Meh... alternate realities are so confusing....  ???

Anyway, I think otherwise of the topic. Rachel and Tobias can NEVER fit with any other man/woman/hawk.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2008, 10:25:00 AM »
Their personalities could very well be different in the alternate reality. We know Jake was different because he didn't care much for Cassie or Ax.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2008, 01:56:09 PM »
Quote from: ThermalRider on June 26, 2008, 01:03:50 AM
They liked each other way before that. Even in the first book, before the attack on the Yeerk Pool, Tobias was perched on Rachel's shoulder. And in book 3 when they think that the Animorphs are going to be trapped as fish in the truck ship, Tobias says something like "Rachel, I wanted to tell you..." and she says "I know."
no that was cassie and jake and that was in book #4 where there in the sea and being chased by visser three in some terrible morph
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2008, 03:37:11 PM »
read book 3 again. tobias and rachel do say that.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2008, 07:13:24 AM »
Yes, it is confirmed, Tobias and Rachel said that....
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2008, 07:54:39 PM »
I think Tobias was too stuck in his ways (pardon the pun) to make any real investments on our girl Rachel.
I didn't really get a feel of Tobias being really supportive and caring, in a way a boyfriend would be, of Rachel spiralling into the bloodthirsty final days. She comes back from the Nice/Mean Rachel experience thing and he reverts it back to something about him, right at the end. She was on the edge and needing support during the 'leadership' decisions she had to make when Jake was away and he never really backed her. In The Return she asks him what's going on and all and Tobias tells her everyone is scared of her kinda thing and simply goes away. WTF, man.
Was there any attempt on his part during the final big arc?
All I saw really, was him, genuinely loving her, but never doing anything about it.
Lesson learnt, he loses her in the final book...
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2008, 10:31:47 PM »
Nothlits age. If Tobias ever decided to live out a normal life with Rachel as a human, his human body would age. I'm sure that if Rachel survived, Tobias would become a human just for her.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2008, 08:35:21 AM »
Quote from: Gafrash on July 21, 2008, 07:54:39 PM
I think Tobias was too stuck in his ways (pardon the pun) to make any real investments on our girl Rachel.
I didn't really get a feel of Tobias being really supportive and caring, in a way a boyfriend would be, of Rachel spiralling into the bloodthirsty final days. She comes back from the Nice/Mean Rachel experience thing and he reverts it back to something about him, right at the end. She was on the edge and needing support during the 'leadership' decisions she had to make when Jake was away and he never really backed her. In The Return she asks him what's going on and all and Tobias tells her everyone is scared of her kinda thing and simply goes away. WTF, man.
Was there any attempt on his part during the final big arc?
All I saw really, was him, genuinely loving her, but never doing anything about it.
Lesson learnt, he loses her in the final book...

I think it was just bad writing on the part of the ghostwriters and bad planning on the part of the author.

Sorry guys, but romance wasn't the main focus of these books.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2010, 03:04:55 PM »
     I just thought of something!

     The Ellimist--or was it the Drode?-- stated that Rachel and Jake were just random choices; happy accidents, if you will.

     So what if Rachel hadn't been there that night?
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2010, 04:23:43 PM »
Lets just pretend that Tobias doesn't age, and is doomed to look 13 for the rest of his life: rachel dated him as a HAWK. I don't think she is going to care.

Plus, mentally he would be an adult. Whilst people MIGHT look down on the (in restaurants or whatever) you gotta remember that they are celebrities (in this alternate universe where she survives). EVERYONE knows who they are, and why they are dating.

Its got nothing to do with paedophilia. I think there is a condition that makes people look much younger than they are, but that doesn't mean they can't be treated as adults.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2010, 04:40:15 PM »
     The human-hawk-Andalite is dating a human female girl--who may, or may not (but deffinitely does) have mental issues.

     Besides, it's a book, I'm sure it doesn't matter. If they genuinely thought that they were meant to be together, then who are we, the readers, to judge a girl and her desire to date out of her species?
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2011, 02:34:58 AM »
I honestly think Tobias and Rachel did work out.Sure they couldn't do...stuff like other kids their age(you know what I mean and I mean it in the nicest way) but they also had alot of time to get to know each other and have more trust then most couples could have in a life time.

Sure it would be bad that Tobias was a hawk and she was a human but they could really be a couple.And if Tobias ever needed/wanted to get closer with Rachel,he could always morph to human for two hours and give Rachel what she wanted as well as keeping his hawk self and body.

So in my mind they worked out their life/relationship as good as anybody could in that way.
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2011, 10:42:46 AM »
Quote from: Tobias on February 05, 2011, 02:34:58 AM
I honestly think Tobias and Rachel did work out.Sure they couldn't do...stuff like other kids their age

And why not? Tobias had a human morph, didn't he?
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Re: Why Rachel and Tobias could never work
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2011, 11:38:49 AM »
morphs age when you're in it, right? like in 19 cassie's caterpillar turned butterfly, just wondering...
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