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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2009, 05:46:26 AM »
My interpretation of numbers:-

moral Yeerks : non moral Yeerks
equivalent to
vegetarians+vegans : everyone else
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2009, 06:15:34 AM »
In all seriousness, it's not really that simple.  But in general, yeah, it'd be remiss to cling to the idea that the Yeerk Peace Movement was a MAJOR segment of the population.  They wouldn't have had enough influence to turn the tide of the Empire and its wars.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2009, 07:21:31 AM »
Weird, though I;d posted here already...

Anyway, I think it's safe to say the Yeerks wouldn't have stopped after Earth. The main reason they wanted to take Earth was because they needed a Class Five species, easier to invade race in large numbers and suitable for physical tasks. The reason they wanted Class Five hosts was so that they would finally be able to overpower the Andalites and then take back their homeworld, before spreading out across the rest of the galaxy.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2009, 03:43:08 PM »
They would probably have had an all out war to destroy the Andalites and enslave them for the Vissers. They would have evolved into a howler type of dominators only more evil since with the howlers it was a game. The yeerks would have destroyed just to destroy those who were not enslavable i.e. the Gedds would have been killed off since they would no longer be needed.

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2009, 07:12:50 PM »
I agree that after humans were enslaved, they would have gone after Andalites in revenge, and taken their homeworld back.

Still though, sure they'd have enough humans for everyone, but in all honesty, humans suck. We're physically weak, slow, need a relatively varied as well as large diet to maintain health, etc. We consume too much based on our physical abilities. Hork-Bajir just need bark. That's basically it. And plants can be dried and compacted, and can be easily reconstituted. That's just with simple human technology. I'm assuming they'd want a race that is more physically abled for combat, as well having a simple mind, and lesser need for resources. Hork-Bajir are great hosts, as well as Garatrons for their speed.

I'm sure after they are done with humans and Andalites, they'd continue hunting for the perfect host race, conquering everything on the way. Even if they found the perfect race, they'd continue on because it's all they'd be able to do at that point. A race warring so generations just doesn't decide to stop. Also include the greed of leaders like our friend Visser Three/One.

I see the peace faction as a relatively small proportion, and eventually they'd drill out sympathy for hosts through propaganda. Remember how Russians were EVIL in the 60's? And how they thought the same of us? Same deal.

Assuming they succeeded in these endeavours, the only way I see for them to fall would be internal conflict. The only way for internal conflict to really tear them down would be something like another Visser battle; two powerful leaders with similar resources fighting it out for dominance, possibly with Tom-like traitors seeking hierarchy. When this fault or civil war happened, a powerful race would need to take them down, because eventually one of the Vissers would win, and rebuild.

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2009, 12:07:49 PM »
your forgetting one imporant fact think.

that fact is that humanity has been killing each other ever since we learned how to pick up tools and we have become quiet good at it. im sure that we could eventually find away that could deal with the yeerks that was both brutal and effective.

if it came down to it, the superpowers would just use the M.A.D. tactic and kill everything under atomic fire.

kill off 90% of the human population and im sure only a hundred hosts aren't very appleaing for a war machine marching threw the comos.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2009, 04:58:58 PM »
Yes, but if all the humans are controllers, that will not get the opporunity to do so.

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2009, 05:09:58 PM »
I'm tempted to agree with Shock actually. There's no certainty that all humans will be controllers. As with virtually every empire/nation/organisation there will be freedom fighters/terrorists who will try and change the status quo. The fact that the Yeerks find the quantity of humans large means more chance of there being a larger rebellion force. As a species if we're desperate enough we'll try anything ask the 9/11 terrorists. I think I mentioned it earlier in this thread but the Yeerks downfall if it isn't a superior race would be internal strife.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2009, 07:35:58 PM »
Yes, about the 9/11 terrorists. They hurt the "evil empire" so to speak, but look what happened. We basically shrug it off and go to war with their nation(s), and unless they get a nuke to threaten with, they have no hope of conquering us. We're just chasing Al Queda in circles.

I agree internal problems would be the downfall, but not freedom fighters. I think it would be Yeerks competing for power sabotaging each other.

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2009, 04:21:27 AM »
Yeah 9/11 wasn't my ideal example but I didn't really have any realistic situations where someone actually stole a nuke and planned to execute mutual annihilation or something more apocalyptic. Still that possibility exists.

On a slightly different note. Does anyone remember the hierarchy of the Yeerk empire? I vaguely remember something about:
Emperor-Council of Thirteen
50 Vissers and Sub-Vissers?
Hork Bajir, Human host
Taxxon, Ged host
No host Yeerks
Also how large is the Yeerk population?

I'm probably going a bit too extreme in trying to work out how their government and society works ;D
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2009, 04:32:32 AM »
The Yeerks then went going around the universe looking for a Class Five (?) species where they could permanently settle their species into. From what I remember of Visser, humans were that set of species that they were looking for.

didn't Visser Three say something about that because of the sheer amount of human hosts, that they woud have to breed haps more yeerks? i'm not too sure what book, but i'm sure that i read it somewhere...


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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2009, 04:56:45 PM »
The Yeerks then went going around the universe looking for a Class Five (?) species where they could permanently settle their species into. From what I remember of Visser, humans were that set of species that they were looking for.

didn't Visser Three say something about that because of the sheer amount of human hosts, that they woud have to breed haps more yeerks? i'm not too sure what book, but i'm sure that i read it somewhere...

That was in Visser. And it was said by the original Visser One (Marco's Mother), not Visser Three.

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2009, 03:45:36 AM »
The Yeerks then went going around the universe looking for a Class Five (?) species where they could permanently settle their species into. From what I remember of Visser, humans were that set of species that they were looking for.

didn't Visser Three say something about that because of the sheer amount of human hosts, that they woud have to breed haps more yeerks? i'm not too sure what book, but i'm sure that i read it somewhere...

That was in Visser. And it was said by the original Visser One (Marco's Mother), not Visser Three.

ahh ok.... well, i still stand by what i said


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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2009, 04:25:14 AM »
The Yeerks then went going around the universe looking for a Class Five (?) species where they could permanently settle their species into. From what I remember of Visser, humans were that set of species that they were looking for.

didn't Visser Three say something about that because of the sheer amount of human hosts, that they woud have to breed haps more yeerks? i'm not too sure what book, but i'm sure that i read it somewhere...

That was in Visser. And it was said by the original Visser One (Marco's Mother), not Visser Three.


Actually Visser Three says it too in book 1, whilst he's taunting Elfangor.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2009, 07:14:21 AM »
My interpretation of numbers:-

moral Yeerks : non moral Yeerks
equivalent to
vegetarians+vegans : everyone else

Oh my Gee! That's a good one! I would agree to this ratio, too!

PLUS, the Yeerks pick and adopt things they learn from other races. All the stuff you guys stated about human nature, like capacity for violence; human will, to persist inspite the odds; would be susceptible to all the Yeerks this Earth-conquer.
They certainly would not have stopped after Earth. They would have rounded all efforts to overwhelm the Andalites, RE-TAKE their Homeworld AND FURTHERMORE proceed to look for the ULTIMATE Controller species.