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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2008, 10:35:16 AM »
Well, there is still the Kelbrid... which might have power at par or even greater than the Andalites...  :)

Fair point, maybe the Yeerks would have upheld the agreement and just left them alone, or maybe they would have gone after them with their new found military strength (after the conquest of the Andelites). It would depend if they were perceived as a threat, or if they had more value as hosts that humans or hork bajir, or even if they technologies worth taking.

Random thought as well, if the conquest of Earth was a success then the Yeerks would probably have done away with Taxxons and Gedds as hosts and dumped them all back on their own planet. Lets face it, there were more humans than Yeerks and since they were so hard to control the Taxxons were really at the bottom end of the hosts. Same with the Gedds, clumsy and almost blind, humans were a far superior.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2008, 03:44:44 PM »
I agree with most of the others so far. If our pal the Visser had his say, I'm not so sure Earth would be enough for him. Nearly positive he would want to go after the Andalites next.

That's the thing with conquerors who are like the Visser. I'm pretty sure once they conquer one race it isn't enough. They gotta show how much power they have. "I crushed these guys, and I'm pretty darn sure I can crush you too."

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2009, 09:13:22 PM »
...To me, the whole point of the invasion and the war in the first place was that the Yeerks wanted to be free, and to see the world as other creatures did, which is why they escaped from the Andalites after they were given portable Kandrona Rays....
This is a very mild and nice way of looking at how the Yeerks started off, in my opinion,...
...The Yeerks then went going around the universe looking for a Class Five (?) species where they could permanently settle their species into. From what I remember of Visser, humans were that set of species that they were looking for.
I think the Yeerks were more interested in literally spreading throughout the planetary systems. Not necessarily finding ONE species and settle for them.

Am I not right? Was that not the objective? Do you think that if the Yeerks had taken over the humans, that the objective would've been completed? Would they have been content with living their lives as humans? Or would they lust for more power, invading as many planets and species as they could find?

No way! They were after the Andalites and their own Homeworld, remember?!

I am uncertain on the amount of Yeerks that were assigned human hosts and on standby on the artificial pools during the Earth Invasion, but I, too, think that the number of our human population was greater than the available Yeerks.


Well, there is still the Kelbrid... which might have power at par or even greater than the Andalites...  :)
Who were the Kelbrids again?! I don't remember this species... Were they on the Ellimist Chronicles?!


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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2009, 03:20:47 AM »
Yes,

Step one: Take over Earth.
Step two: Re-claim the blessed Yeerk homeworld.
Step three: Take over Andalites.


If satisfied: Terminate the process be peaceful.
If greedy: Take over the whole universe. Then be peaceful.

I agree.
I just add that, with Human hosts, they would take over the whole universe. Human mind wouldn't help them stopping, and to make all the Humans live, have more spaceships and technology for everybody, to build cities, countries for everybody... Yeah, I'm sure they're invade all the universe.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 01:16:27 AM »
I believe the Yeerks would go on conquering but I also believe they would have ended up with a Civil War about any further expansion beyond reclaiming their Homeworld and defeating the Andalites. They would have morphing capabilities, in mass if they take the Andalites after Earth which was likely with our abundant resources and hosts.

Some Yeerks did not want unwilling hosts or to depend on Kandrona Rays. Some would want to become Nothlits and some would sympathize with enslaved hosts and be willing to fight for them.

And we cannot dismiss the outright common killing of subordinants. I think the defiant nature of human hosts would help influence a movement against the estabished leaders of the Yeerks by the underlings. That's my theory anyway. I think there expanision would have a lot to do with who ends up leading the Yeerk Empire when the dust settles...
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 10:04:53 PM »
AniJen, you could be right... We'll have to be careful ;)
Humans are so... unpredictable!
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2009, 01:26:08 AM »
No, they wouldn't.  Due to their internal hierarchy, where acquiring new, improved hosts is linked directly to advancement, it would only make sense for them to want more.

I do believe some Yeerks, once their race's survival and prosperity would have been ensured, would protest continued expansion and form groups like the EF (from book 41).

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2009, 02:16:31 AM »
Yep, gotta agree with the assessment that once the Yeerks counted their human hosts in the billions, they'd move against the Andalites.

They didn't really need physical prowess, more just sheer numbers by the sounds of things.  Humans are adaptable, and would probably kick up their military production of ships and weapons by a couple of hundred percent, just through sheer numbers.

With 4-5 billion humans (leaving a billion margin for deathtoll), and eventually whatever Andalites they could manage to take alive, they'd probably be like mega-brutal-heavy-metal-unstoppable, yo.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2009, 06:10:24 AM »
With 4-5 billion humans (leaving a billion margin for deathtoll), and eventually whatever Andalites they could manage to take alive, they'd probably be like mega-brutal-heavy-metal-unstoppable, yo.

Mega-brutal-heavy-metal-unstoppable to you or me sure . . . but not to the Borg. (dun dun DUN!)

Just kidding, couldn't resist.

But yeah, Visser Three states clearly that Earth is a stepping stone to the Andalite world, the Yeerks weren't going to stop, I don't even think they'd stop after the Andalites, they'd go after that race from 54 who'se name I can't remember, the one the Andalites had a treaty with but had never actually seen. I think they'd see them as a threat since the Andalites evidentally did.

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2009, 08:52:09 AM »
AniJen: Exactly what I was thinking. With such a large empire there would definitely be internal conflict possibly revolution with a) morphing capability presuming the blue box is found after taking over Earth b) the massive massive sheer number of potential human hosts which are far better than Taxxons and Gedds.

When someone takes over a country they also absorb into their culture all the things about the culture they enslaved whether they intend to or not. Considering that Yeerks inherently do this anyway it will DEFINITELY bring about great change. Remember the Visser One chronicle? (If anyone read it) she almost had a complete turn around based on her singular experience on Earth.

In terms of intelligence Gedds, Hork Bajirs, Taxxons. They're not particularly smart/advanced enough to give the variety and potential that humans have come up with. I mean even the Andalite(s) couldn't come up with the things us "backward humans" have done. The best the Hork Bajir came up with was knowing which type of wood to eat. Humans have created the ultimate "cinnamun bunzah"!

Okay back on topic to would the Yeerks have stopped invading Earth. It's quite hard to say but based on the assumption that the enslavement of Earth does not bring about an epic proportional revolution we can say that based on the propaganda control of their government Earth would not be enough. Sure a lot of Yeerks will be assigned to babysitting our planet but from past experience they usually end up stripping a planet of all resources for furthering their empire.

Actually in fact there were at least two instances where Earth was taken over so we do know what KA thought would happen. So yes on the list of the Yeerk agenda given that no revolution occurs:
  • Molding Earth for Yeerk purposes
  • Making Visser 3 member of council
  • Wiping out or enslaving Andalites
  • Wiping out or enslaving any other similar level of threat
    eg. Kelbrid from the last book ever of Animorphs for those who didn't remember/know (SPOILER) the Andalite space neighbours who don't want trespassers
  • Exploration
  • Meeting new-Howlers replacements and enslaving them if possible
  • Meeting Iskoort in the far flung future and mocking them and then
  • Getting beaten by superior (tech/numbers/combo) of aliens or internal conflict

Let's face it with possible Andalite technology, human numbers, human ingenuity and possibly several dozen other species and/or planets at their disposal the Yeerks aren't exactly going to just sit and play nice with their brand spanking shiny new hosts. They would have to have a massive change in government after conquering Earth to change their minds and even then they wouldn't just give up all their hosts and revert back to Kandrona lit swamps.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2009, 08:55:53 PM »
no way! they invaded earth to be strong enough to invade andalite planet

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2009, 08:56:48 PM »
Wasn't it their plan to take the Andalites after earth?
And then any species they can find?

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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2009, 09:56:17 PM »
Yep.  People give the Yeerk's too much moral credit, to say they'd be happy with the morphing power alone.  The resistance movement is pretty clearly a minority.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2009, 02:47:35 AM »
A good example is that Visser Three says they'd need to breed more yeerks just to take all the humans. If they're willing to lose 3 experienced soldiers to make a hundred or so newbies just to fill in bodies I don't see them stopping at Earth or Andalite-Prime.
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Re: Would the Yeerks have stopped after invading Earth?
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2009, 03:22:26 AM »
Die filthy slugs, die!
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