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Offline Kharina

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2009, 03:17:42 PM »
21 years is just too much. He's old enough to be her father!

And the old days don't count.

My parents have a six year gap, and that's tolerable, but much over that it pushing it. No one should ever date or marry soimeone young enough to be their child. Or old enough to be their parent.

Marco would have been roughly 14/15 at the time of Visser- Jake says in 54 that the war started when he (Jake) was 13 and finished at 16- as Visser is around halfwayish, I'd put Marco's age at 15.  Darwin/Madra are 9- this makes it only a 6 year age gap for the pairing anyway.  It's a big gap at those ages, but at 29 and 35?  Barely noticeable, really.  Not a huge gap, and no bigger than your parents' age gap, Chad.  Even if we make a very conservative estimate and say Marco is 16, still only a 7 year gap. 

And I don't think voodooqueen actually said her father was the older one... :P

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2009, 01:18:08 AM »
To clarify: My father is 21 years older than my mother... and his oldest daughter is 7 years younger than my mother, this maybe why my sister dislikes my mother:P But i think that since my mother was 35 the age gap ceases to be so important after a certain point but there is a limit.
An example of that limit: the prophet Muhammad married Aisha when she was 9 and he was in his 50's, there is speculation that the Sunni/Shia divide was exacerbated by the fact that Fatima was slightly older than her step mother and therefore didn't like her. This age gap is too great, especially since the wife was playing with her dolls...
Having said all that actually I do disapprove of women marrying younger men... I know that sounds sexist, but it is really biological, women cease to be fertile at menopause and start to age rapidly after that, also women seek alpha males and lose respect for men who they support (a study was done that showed that women who had house husbands lost interest in their husbands when natural gender roles were reversed.

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2009, 01:21:09 AM »
women hit their sexual peak at about 30. men hit theirs at 18.  there biology for you.

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2009, 02:48:22 AM »
Men remain fertile until they are really old, and their sex drives tend to remain higher than women's even at 30. I think the whole thing with women hitting their sexual peak at 30 is to make the woman have one last healthy baby before her ovaries become old and then hitting menopause.

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2009, 10:31:36 AM »
I don't really go for the Marco/Mardra shipping. I actually forgot about them soon after Visser because nothing else was done with them.


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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2009, 10:41:43 AM »
Man relationships are not just about having babies, no matter what this book would have us believe.
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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2009, 10:51:12 AM »
Well, sex is what relationships boil down to, one way or another. That's why girls and guys get together, most of the time. Whether they know exactly why they're interested in the opposite gender or not.


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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2009, 06:10:19 PM »
Man I hope you're oversimplifying that or else that is very bleak.
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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2009, 09:11:43 PM »
Things can go deeper than that, but that's what it all boils down to. Sexual drive.


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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2009, 01:42:07 AM »
Chad is harsh but true, and love and mutual sexual pleasure, causes the man to support the woman as she rears his children.

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2009, 01:52:24 AM »
Isn't this off-topic?


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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2009, 05:33:49 PM »
YES but the feminism coal in my chest is seething right now
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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2009, 05:46:02 PM »
Ok, how is this a harsh and anti-feminist truth, by the way?


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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2009, 08:09:07 AM »
Ok, how is this a harsh and anti-feminist truth, by the way?
I can see the harsh part (sort of) but anti-feminist? nope...

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Re: Group Re-Read: The Visser Chronicles
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2009, 09:59:47 AM »
I think what voodooqueen said was what anijen was referring to with the anti-feminist thing, morfowt.

And I would agree with anijen, except that we really are getting off topic here.

A question to give us something a bit more relevant to discuss, and which I don't think was mentioned in the opening questions: does everyone remember the part during Visser when Visser Three gives Visser One a gun and asks her to shoot Darwin?  The Animorphs, luckily, arrive at that moment so she is prevented from having to choose between killing Darwin and effectively signing her own death sentence.  But if they hadn't arrived at that crucial moment, what do you guys think she would have done and why?