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Re: The ending
« Reply #135 on: December 30, 2008, 06:04:34 PM »
 I always hated the ending honestly. Yes, the parts on the bladeship and pool ship were fine, but the whole future after that was crap. Tobias would have used the time matrix to save rachel as soon as he got back on earth if KA wasn't too busy killing the series.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #136 on: December 30, 2008, 06:31:24 PM »
I wonder if anyone thinks it would be better if Tobais had died. He'd wind up being the first and last casualty of war.

It would be more ironic if Cassie somehow died on the bladeship, since that mission wouldn't have happened if she didn't let Tom's Yeerk escape with the box.

The more I think of it, the more I wonder why Rachel was the one. Especially since typically her kind are the ones who survive while Cassie's kind typically die.

Not that I ever wanted any of the main characters to die anyway. It wasn't needed.


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Re: The ending
« Reply #137 on: December 30, 2008, 07:20:49 PM »
shes cant write she is not and will never be a writer shes just a wanna-be with some good ideas and i doubt she even thought of most of them if she couldnt think of an ending better than that.
i hate to burst bubbles but thats why there arent anymore animorphs despite the fact people are still talking about them.because scholastic knows she cant write they probaly have bags of hate mail because of this woman and than she tries to put the ending off on us saying its a war blah blah it aint suppose to be a happpy ending.NO its not is a SCIENCE FICTION SERIES for CHILDREN  you stupid woman dont make up excuses because your lazy and childish for that matter excuses why you cant write is all they are she doesnt deserve a penny for all those books i would rob her if i knew how to find her.she owes an ending i read these books a long time and paid for the majority and i was ripped off.writers arent suppose to write books for them selves im a comedian and im not gonna tell jokes that just suit me and forget everyone else "i can" but I DONT GET PAID and neither should she. and as far as if you dont like the ending write it yourself i say we should find another K.A. from fanfics RAF can do ti see them do alot of things here,they really do. i can get scholastics mailing addresses and email and well bombard them until we get the animorphs back hell they can throw the stupid B**** name on there still i dont care as long as it has and ending where it ends or at least goes on through more books and it it too much to ask to make sense??? huh anyone with me on that.and im getting the addresses and anyone who will write or read fanfics to send in,write letters basiclly help me harrass them till we get what we want let me know cause im not takeing that and im send K.A. soooooooooooo much hate mail i dont need help with that lol

.......Are you on meds? Why in the hell are you here if you hate her so much?!

I, for one, dislike the ending (as you can read on almost any of my posts), but I STILL acknowledge KA as an incredible writer. I even liked the fillers (that she wrote), but her ghostwriters sucked (they turned Rachel into some kind of monster, and Marco lost all his muster).

Someone needs to learn to use line breaks... xD

And I agree, the main thing I disliked about the ghostwriters was how they wrote Rachel (#37 being the most heinous example).  Some of the ghostwritten books are actually quite good though.

Absolutely, I liked a lot of them too.

49 and 50, in particular were great, but 48...........not so much.

I wonder if anyone thinks it would be better if Tobais had died. He'd wind up being the first and last casualty of war.

It would be more ironic if Cassie somehow died on the bladeship, since that mission wouldn't have happened if she didn't let Tom's Yeerk escape with the box.

The more I think of it, the more I wonder why Rachel was the one. Especially since typically her kind are the ones who survive while Cassie's kind typically die.

Not that I ever wanted any of the main characters to die anyway. It wasn't needed.

Yeah, that's how I felt. Rachel's kind are the kind to survive and usually end up being heroes in the end.

One thing I did like though. Since the ghostwriters took over, they started painting Rachel to be some kind of inhumane monster, but in her dying moments, she seemed very human again. But, then again, that was probably KA's superb writing.
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Re: The ending
« Reply #138 on: December 30, 2008, 07:33:57 PM »
Yeah, it was just the ghostwriters that wanted her to be some kind of twisted monster. KA wrote the last book, and Rachel turned back into the kind of person we came to love in the early/mid books. Someone with two sides, yes, but not someone who wouldn't be able to deal with peacetime. Not that there would be total world peace afterwards anyway.


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Re: The ending
« Reply #139 on: December 30, 2008, 11:48:20 PM »
The ending.... I'm in the group who think that it should've been more than that.

But I'm ok about the deaths. If Applegate decided to stuck to the hard core reality, I suppose the Animorphs have been all dead earlier. I'm surprised they had managed only to lose one of them. Sometime throughout the series I felt weird that coincidences happen all that smooth. Everyone is alive and ok after some disastrous mission. I usually hide behind the plot device shield, and reassure myself that this was intended to be a children book so she could let some unexplainable facts go. It's almost relieving that one of the main chara dead (Rachel died as a human, fortunately). Tom's death was a horrible one, poor Tom, still had a Yeerk stuck in his head, but...

It's feasible. I can accept it. Sure there's many way to avoid both deaths but I won't complain about it.
I won't complain about their lives after the war either. It could go whatever way and the effect would still be the same. The kids saved their Earth, they're worthy of whatever life they could live after their struggle.

What's disturbing is their relationship. I, as many of the people in this forum, also couldn't believe that Tobias would leave Ax just like so only because he's depressed after Rachel's death. I find no logic in his action. He lost Rachel, yea, the one who care about him deepest, but he still have his friends. And Loren, if you want to count her. She may have no real bond between him but she's his own real mother for crying out loud. Is Tobias really that weak? I don't get it.

Jake and Cassie. I understand that the guilt-ridden Jake couldn't find his way around Cassie anymore, but what about vice-versa? After all they've been trough for like, forever, had their lives changed like, together, Cassie simply moved to another man? That's so wrong.

Then about them meeting The One.
Well, did all of them died fighting this creature? The probability is high, look at what it did to freaking Ax, that could fight best in his own Andalite body. What chance a bunch of morph-capable human and a hawk had? This bad assumption pissed me off. It's just... after the Animorphs completed their purpose on the series and survived, they're going to be killed and absorbed into some kind of evil enemy which we know nothing about?

Why, it was the freaking end of the book and Ax's final appearance was as an alien mutant driven by an unknown force worshiped by desperate Yeerks. Nooooooo.

*Sigh*
There's nothing I can do about it anyway, I'll have to accept it and move on. Sorry for my selfish rant, I really need to blurt it out.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #140 on: January 01, 2009, 12:52:48 AM »
i hate da way Cassie & Jake broke up. Coulnt KA keep even one realationship going? everyone seemed sad in the end. i hated that. BTW, why r u all comparing Animorphs with Harry Potter? Animorphs can never be compared.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #141 on: January 01, 2009, 11:48:33 AM »
A lot of people wanted the Animorphs ending to be happier, and a lot of people were put off by the happy ending in HP. Even though HP was geared towards kids, and I'll bet many kids anjoyed the ending.

They are very different, but people who are content with the Ani ending use it as a recent axample of a happy ending. That's all.


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Re: The ending
« Reply #142 on: January 01, 2009, 06:26:36 PM »
KA did an interview one time in which she stated how everyone would live their lives after the war, and based on that interview, it sounded like they all lived.

Also, earlier, someone here said that KA said she would consider writing books 55-60 if Scholastic gave her the chance. But, then again, I'm sure they have already.

Maybe for the 10th anniversary of Animorphs ending?

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Re: The ending
« Reply #143 on: January 06, 2009, 10:12:38 PM »
yeah, tobias's heart was broken. he was alone again...
anyway, did he hate jake? cassie said that he didn't, but when jake told him about the mission to save ax, tobias felt trapped again with jake. what was that mean?

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Re: The ending
« Reply #144 on: January 14, 2009, 06:07:45 PM »
I doubt Tobias hates anyone, he just doesnt seem like the type to hate.

But, I think he was downright furious with him. Everytime he sees Jake, I'm sure he's reminded of Rachel.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #145 on: January 14, 2009, 06:30:35 PM »
she definitely should have made the last book longer. the first book was of perfect length.

after, what, like 60 books..?, she rushed through the grand finale.
you should never see the phrase '# years later' in the last book of a series. that's just lazy. (and didn't she use it multiple times, too?)

i liked how she left them fighting, but [spoiler]rachel dying[/spoiler] should have happened sooner.
[spoiler]or maybe more could have died in previous books?[/spoiler]
not saying i don't like each of them, i just don't think it's realistic to have them all live through the series and then have one die at the end.

way too rushed. and why did she introduce the one at the very end? no material behind it, just left more questions.
i think the series would be better off had 54 been re-written.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #146 on: January 14, 2009, 08:52:35 PM »
The Ellimist had always provided them with a way out, they just had to find it (as part of the rules of his game with Crayak).

I just think it wasn't right to kill Rachel (and judging by the outstanding number of fanfics in which she is brought back to life, I'd say most fans agree with me).

Tobias or Cassie dying would've been much more tragic.


Rachel's death just didn't feel right, imo. I mean, sure, it fit contextually, but it just felt........off. Not to mention all that could've been done with her post-war. I dont know about you guys, but I was dying to see how she would fare when there were no more fights to look forward to.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #147 on: January 14, 2009, 09:26:41 PM »
Like I've said before, it wasn't just bad enough that she killed off a character. She let all the main characters live through the entire series, then killed one in the last book. If she wanted that kind of realism, she should have killed off one or two in different parts of the series, and replaced them via the box or other means. Killing off one at the end is actually quite unrealistic, especially since it's pointed out that the Ellemist always makes sure there's a way out. So killing off Rachel made the series even less realistic, according to the way the series worked..


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Re: The ending
« Reply #148 on: January 14, 2009, 09:53:29 PM »
There was always a way out for them, except one (I believe this was said, I just cant remember where).

At first, it was Jake that Crayak hated, but somewhere around #48, it was hinted that he switched to hating Rachel. So, of course, he picked her to be killed.

Sure, technically it is unrealistic to have all of the live until the end, but if she went by realism, we wouldnt have a very long series.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #149 on: January 15, 2009, 12:07:57 AM »
At first, it was Jake that Crayak hated, but somewhere around #48, it was hinted that he switched to hating Rachel. So, of course, he picked her to be killed.

i'm pretty sure KA didn't want to kill off jake. after all, she named her son jake. lol.