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Re: The ending
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2008, 07:37:51 AM »
Actually, a howler would not be able to do much damage without the Howl. They used Dracons/shredders/flechettes/whatever in the battle against the Animorphs, right? Sure, they would not be able to kill the Howler, but how would the Howler kill without a howl? or a weapon? Punch the Polar bear to death? Tire Tom's snake in continuous biting?  :)
They have retractable claws, like Wolverine from X-Men. With that, short howls to stun the enemy, and quick healing Jake would win.

Besides, there were Dracon weapons in the room as stated during the battle.


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Re: The ending
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2008, 10:04:45 AM »
Yeah good point... plus the Yeerks inside weren't that good in a fight. I mean, Rachel took out the polar bear in seconds flat.  ;D
But Jake could still not go. The plan was that he would pose as Earth's leader and as the leader of the only Earth Resistance faction to talk to the Andalites. To give them a morphing cube for the Taxxons. None of the other Animorphs could speak as a leader the way Jake could. Not Marco, Rachel, Ax, Tobias, and the rest.

Plus, if Jake wasn't there, Tom might get suspicious while they entered because the "leader" of the Animorphs wasn't present. All of the original Animorphs were supposed to be "eaten" by the Taxxon. Jake's absence would result to Tom's suspicion.
I'm just a writer, and my main goal was always to entertain. But I've never let Animorphs turn into just another painless video game version of war, and I wasn't going to do it at the end. I've spent 60 books telling a strange, fanciful war story, sometimes very seriously, sometimes more tongue-in-cheek. I've written a lot of action and a lot of humor and a lot of sheer nonsense. But I have also, again and again, challenged readers to think about what they were reading. To th

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Re: The ending
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2008, 10:09:09 AM »
None of the other Animorphs could speak as a leader the way Jake could. Not Marco, Rachel, Ax, Tobias, and the rest.
that was a little cold to cassie
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Re: The ending
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2008, 06:32:14 AM »
Grrr... he gave the morphing cube to the Yeerks.... that's why I have a decent hatred for her!  >:(
Just joking... it was an error in my part...  ;D
I'm just a writer, and my main goal was always to entertain. But I've never let Animorphs turn into just another painless video game version of war, and I wasn't going to do it at the end. I've spent 60 books telling a strange, fanciful war story, sometimes very seriously, sometimes more tongue-in-cheek. I've written a lot of action and a lot of humor and a lot of sheer nonsense. But I have also, again and again, challenged readers to think about what they were reading. To th

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Re: The ending
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2008, 12:29:23 PM »
I always assumed that The One was stronger than the Ellimist and Crayak. That just seems to be what KA was trying to say. She seemed to be trying to say "This is it. This is the most powerful evil in the known universe. This is stronger than anything you have ever faced, this is what has been monitoring you and everything for all time. This is the embodiment of pure evil.

I liked the way that The One was foreshadowed in some books..

Like, in #24, Ellimist mentions that Crayak was banished by a being stronger than both of them. Then Jake thinks "I wouldn't want to meet that guy.". I always assumed this to be a hint of "The One". I also considered "The Five" and the voice in Book #41 to both be hints of "The One".

IMO The One has been watching the Animorphs' journey forever. It chose to take Ax and lead the Animorphs to fighting it because it was toying with them.

Well, that's my opinion anyway. The One is the most powerful and unimaginable entity in the universe.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2008, 01:05:47 PM »
The one is the most powerful and unimaginable piece of writing crap ive ever seen in the universe :p

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Re: The ending
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2008, 01:38:29 PM »
The One may have been a member of The Five? Do you think Crayak may have been one of them, and was expelled from the group.

I would give a lot for there to be a Crayak Chronicles. I wish there was a part of The Ellemist Chronicles that explained Crayak.


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Re: The ending
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2008, 05:37:44 AM »
I don't think the One isn't that powerful. If it wanted Jake from the start, it could just come to Jake, not wait for him in the Blade ship.
I'm just a writer, and my main goal was always to entertain. But I've never let Animorphs turn into just another painless video game version of war, and I wasn't going to do it at the end. I've spent 60 books telling a strange, fanciful war story, sometimes very seriously, sometimes more tongue-in-cheek. I've written a lot of action and a lot of humor and a lot of sheer nonsense. But I have also, again and again, challenged readers to think about what they were reading. To th

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« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2008, 01:58:28 PM »
i never though of The 5 as a race of 5 super powerful beings, I always just though of them as a race with a weird name

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Re: The ending
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2008, 03:05:49 PM »
CounterInstinct, I think he was playing games with Jake & crew. That's the impression I got.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2008, 06:58:24 AM »
Well, if he was as powerful as the Ellimist... I think... he could have got a little more.... creative perhaps? I dunno.. maybe it was the lack of "special" effects that did it... plus, I think the One is more inclined to evil and stupidity (he talks like the former Visser 3)... and if he was more powerful than the Ellimist or crayak (which are already POWERful)... the world would probably be one piece of crap.
I'm just a writer, and my main goal was always to entertain. But I've never let Animorphs turn into just another painless video game version of war, and I wasn't going to do it at the end. I've spent 60 books telling a strange, fanciful war story, sometimes very seriously, sometimes more tongue-in-cheek. I've written a lot of action and a lot of humor and a lot of sheer nonsense. But I have also, again and again, challenged readers to think about what they were reading. To th

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Re: The ending
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2008, 04:28:26 PM »
I'm not saying there weren't flaws with The One. I just think that 'the most powerful entity' really seemed to be what KA was trying to say with The One.

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Re: The ending
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2008, 07:57:07 PM »
well...I was not happy either...I was actually crying...But I don't think there was a better way to show the love and affection the animorphs actually shared...in all the previous books....it was shown that Jake was fighting for his brother..which he was...everyone had their own reasons...but in the end...Katherine Applegate actually showed that they cared for each other.....and Jake had no more heart no more life in him....just because of a stupid war.....killing them showed that the animorphs didn't really fight for themselves but for the world too....no offence meant but thats my opinion...

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Re: The ending
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2008, 09:38:13 PM »
I think it's a cruel joke that Applegate brought Loren back to do almost nothing with her, and then kill Tom, who was a major part in the series as a whole.

Loren wasn't even mentioned in the ending. Tobias left, and it wasn't stated what Loren did. She could have gone with him, or tried to keep him with her. Tobias didn't even mention her in his narrative part.

What was the point of finding and saving her from being watched by the Yeerks, and then do nothing with her? Since she had morphing power, she might have helped in a few missions or something. But nothing.

One other thing. Shouldn't Eva have had some knowledge of ships that would help them bypass security? I'm a little surprised she didn't play a bigger part in ending the war on Earth.


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Re: The ending
« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2008, 06:59:39 AM »
First of all, K.A could not possibly elaborate everything about the Animorphs' families and friends in every single way that would make the book as boring as hell. I can almost imagine the lines.

Loren came back to her old life with her dog. Eva and his husband became filthy rich due to Marco's donations. Rachel's mom forever feels guilty about letting her daughter fight that war. Etc etc. Sounds too much like a fanfic instead of the real thing. That's why the book is called "Animorphs". Not "Animorphs and their families and friends". Plus it leaves us, the readers, to think about it. Not everything can be learned from just reading. We have to figure it out by ourselves. Get that brain gears to work or something.

Jake would never let Loren join the war. Tobias losing Rachel was bad enough. Putting Loren in the danger was now  beyond the line.
The Pool ship was designed specifically for Visser Three's use. No way Visser Three gives the former Visser One's blueprints of it.

Rachel died, isn't she a major part of the series? Visser one the Yeerk died too, but isn't she a big part of the series? So is Voldemort. I think it was already hinted in book 6 that Tom was going to die. By Jake's own command, thus destroying Jake as well.

Actually, the point of saving her... according to Jake, was no point at all. They just risked their lives for Tobias's personal sake.
I'm just a writer, and my main goal was always to entertain. But I've never let Animorphs turn into just another painless video game version of war, and I wasn't going to do it at the end. I've spent 60 books telling a strange, fanciful war story, sometimes very seriously, sometimes more tongue-in-cheek. I've written a lot of action and a lot of humor and a lot of sheer nonsense. But I have also, again and again, challenged readers to think about what they were reading. To th