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Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« on: February 07, 2009, 01:32:08 PM »
I was reading the favorite Animorph thread, and I agree with most people that Cassie isn't my favorite.  I'm not anti-Cassie, but there are aspects about her (or the portrayal of her) that seriously annoy me.  My biggest complaint is that she is never wrong.  I can think of plenty of times the other characters screwed up.  With Cassie every action she does always ends up being vindicated, even (especially) letting the blue box go. 

Can anyone think of anytime she was wrong?   

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 01:45:10 PM »
Holy crud, you're right!  She has never been wrong (in any of her own books, at least).

[spoiler]4-She helped find Ax (vindicated!)
9-She nearly got stuck in morph to help skunks, but by the end of the books, all the Animorphs were helping her help those same skunks (vindicated!)
14-She doesn't really do anything here where she might be considered for vindication.  But hey, if you count messing up military time as being wrong, she was wrong once in this book!  But . . . no, that doesn't really count, does it?
19-She helped a Yeerk, who ended up turning into a good guy (vindicated!)
24-No big victories here
29-That Yeerk she helped in 19?  Yeah, she helped save Ax's life (vindicated!)
34-Here, there were a lot of little things, like going against Aldrea's wishes when morphing away her wings when she was a falling from the sky as a humpback whale.  But I'm pretty sure she ended up being right every time (vindicated!)
39-Cassie believes the Animorphs shouldn't kill the buffa-human.  And what do you know, it ends up being helpful to their cause! (vindicated!)
44-Another one like 34, where she ended up being right several times in different ways (vindicated!)
50-Hands over the blue box, which makes a few Yeerks defect (vindicated, at least until Rachel gets killed by a freaking polar bear)[/spoiler]
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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 01:50:05 PM »
Maybe it wasn't too clever to morph that skunk and fall asleep...

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2009, 01:59:10 PM »
Maybe it wasn't too clever to morph that skunk and fall asleep...
Ha, that was the one time she screwed up, and big time.  But they are always talking about how she's the best morpher and "always knows what to say to calm everyone down." 
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 02:02:12 PM »
By the way. Is Cassie a vegetarian or not?

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 02:08:07 PM »
Maybe it wasn't too clever to morph that skunk and fall asleep...
Ha, that was the one time she screwed up, and big time.  But they are always talking about how she's the best morpher and "always knows what to say to calm everyone down." 

The thing is, though, that even when she screws up, it all ends up okay in the end.  Everyone forgives her and helps save the skunks.

I consider her giving away the blue box to be a major screw-up on her part, as well.  Seeing as she obviously wasn't thinking about Yeerks who might defect when she let that happen, at the time she was only thinking about Jake's conscience if he had to kill Tom.  So maybe she did the right thing, but for the wrong reason.  Or maybe she did the wrong thing, and it, once again, simply all turned out okay in the end.

As for Cassie being a vegetarian, no mention of that has ever been made in the books, I don't think.
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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 02:31:03 PM »
That's true.  Cassie is always the little angel, who has a strangely strong concience.
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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 05:10:43 PM »
giving the box away was wrong. A few defected Yeerks does not justify indirectly getting Tom and Rachel killed, and the Yeerks escaping with it on their way to find The One.

It is annoying that all the times she screwed up, there seems to be something that vindicates it. I don't remember much hinting that Cassie is all that special in the beginning of the series, but later it really shows.

But the box? No. Just no. She didn't have to do it. She wasn't thinking of Yeerks defecting when she did it. The cons outweigh the pros. The icing on the cake is when Jake accidentally excludes her from the group, and Tobias calls it beyond wrong. I would have done it on purpose, and told Tobias to bugger off.


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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 05:39:05 PM »
So Cassie is perfect, except for the box.  Wow.  That is wrong.  We should tell KA.
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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 05:51:46 PM »
By the way. Is Cassie a vegetarian or not?

Yeah, she is.

In the book where she morphed wolf for the first time (I forgot which one it was), she smelled bacon on Rachel's breath and said something along the lines of "Rachel, did you have bacon for breakfast? I thought we were quitting meat!".

And, of course, Marco had some witty remark to make about it (that I cant remember at the moment).

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 06:04:55 PM »
It was book #3, and what she said was, 'I thought you were going to go vegetarian'. So yeah, still doesn't answer whether Cassie is or not.

Although you know, knowing Cassie's pacifism and moralizing, I'm surprised she didn't starve to death from not wanting to hurt the poor plants she has to cut the fruit from.

Then again, if she had chosen not to eat anything, the writers would have had her spontaneously develop the ability to absorb nutrients from the air. ... and everyone else would have suddenly realized the error of their ways and the entire planet would sing kumbaya and swear off food forever because Cassie is right, is always right, and will always be right, and don't you forget it.

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 06:17:13 PM »
I also think she was wrong in having Davuid be trapped as a mouse. Obviously he found no happiness on that island. It would have been better to end him quickly and mostly painlessly.


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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2009, 06:29:18 PM »
The books don't PORTRAY that as wrong though. They portray it as the only right decision, which ONLY she was able to come up with. Rachel and Jake failed, just after they had like one of their only touching moments of the series together. Which always pissed me off. Those two should have been the ones to think of the solution, after that scene.

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2009, 06:31:25 PM »
Although you know, knowing Cassie's pacifism and moralizing, I'm surprised she didn't starve to death from not wanting to hurt the poor plants she has to cut the fruit from.

Then again, if she had chosen not to eat anything, the writers would have had her spontaneously develop the ability to absorb nutrients from the air. ... and everyone else would have suddenly realized the error of their ways and the entire planet would sing kumbaya and swear off food forever because Cassie is right, is always right, and will always be right, and don't you forget it.

Oh man.  LOL.  I laughed so hard when I read that.  It's funny because it could almost be true.

And, okay, yeah, trapping David as a rat was Cassie's other big mistake of the series.  I mean, they were doing that to try to be nice to him?  Killing him would have been kinder.

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Re: Has Cassie ever been wrong?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 06:41:33 PM »
Cassie is willing to do anything it takes to stick to her ideals. Forcing someone to a life at the bottom of the food chain. Quitting the team. Letting Tom get away with the box.

Yeah, I can see how the books want to portray stuff. I have my own opinions, though.


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