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How many Andalites died when they invented the morphing??
« on: February 03, 2009, 10:00:28 AM »
As I read a lot of science I've seen that every invention is a result of experiments and succesfull experiments use to be results of unsuccesfull experiments.

So what do we know about morphing...

It doesn't hurt

Sometimes vital internal organs disappear or move to another place and so on.

Then we know that the andalites don't want to share technique with other species and that means they didn't test it on animals, because they could have ended up exterminate themselves. (Just imagine if the lab rats would take revenge...) ;)

So before they found out how do with the pain and the organs I think it must have been a lot of accidents. I believe many andalites got injured for life or died.
Any other development isn't possible.

What do you think?
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 10:51:26 AM »
That's an interesting question.  It might have been something they could work out theoretically, though.  They might just have found a bunch of equations to describe how the blue boxes worked, and then changed the parameters of those without actually conducting many tests.

If not, and they did have to do experiments to test it, then I think I'd feel most sorry for the guys who got trapped in morph before they learned about the two hour limit.  :(
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 11:19:17 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me that there would be many errors before the current tech reached the point it was at the beginning of the series.  Such is the way with all sciences.

But this is a good question -- I hadn't even thought of it before you mentioned it, Mira.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 11:26:16 AM »
 hmmm...i think there would have been a few accidents. Maybe some andalies becoming overwhelmed by their morph. but this is assuming that the morphing technology in the beginning is like how it is now. I mean, if 5 human kids can get a grip on it, i don't think it would have been too bad.

i wonder if they knew about the 2 hour limit from the begining? probably.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 01:26:06 PM »
This reminds me of the Nothlit Chronicles fanfiction. If they didn't experiment on animals, they may have experimented on criminals, or terminally ill Andalites.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 01:37:09 PM »
Quote from: Nohensen on February 03, 2009, 01:26:06 PM
This reminds me of the Nothlit Chronicles fanfiction. If they didn't experiment on animals, they may have experimented on criminals, or terminally ill Andalites.

In another words, Andalites with nothing left to lose?
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 04:16:27 PM »
Yep. People that may wind up dead soon anyway.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 06:07:46 PM »
I don't know the details myself.  History in general was pretty high on the list of Things Not to Be Discussed in the Interest of Galactic Harmony And Polite Conversation, and that went double for the history of technology.

My personal take, without much evidence, is that this was perhaps less dangerous than you might expect.  Morphing is based around rapid regeneration, which is probably something they developed (or discovered.  It's wild on good old mater terra, and possibly even natural, but now I'm getting off topic.) before the rest of the technology.  That provides a reasonably good fail-safe (though with a long-term risk of cancer if they don't come up with some way to turn it off).  Then, just tie that into a psychosomatics and z-space attachment and hey-presto!  There's morphing.

But the painkilling is something they must have developed later.  They definitely had regressions on that front as they tried to improve the technology.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 06:10:15 PM »
i can imagine quite a few died.

the ellimist helped out a lot, i imagine.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 06:36:36 PM »
Quote from: Nohensen on February 03, 2009, 01:26:06 PM
This reminds me of the Nothlit Chronicles fanfiction. If they didn't experiment on animals, they may have experimented on criminals, or terminally ill Andalites.

Isn't this the quite the same thing as those "lab rats". If there was no lab rats for the same reason as Mira said that they may take revenge in some way, what shouldn't a criminal Andalite do?

Quote from: goom on February 03, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
i can imagine quite a few died.

the ellimist helped out a lot, i imagine.

And why? "he/she/or what it is" isn't allowed to do that...

Allright, now I finally got something to think about. Thank you Mira :)
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 07:10:43 PM »
I'm not sure. I think it would be easier to test on sentient life, though the buffa-Human didn't seem to have too much trouble considering its nonsentience.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 07:11:20 PM »
Quote from: Stasiea on February 03, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
And why? "he/she/or what it is" isn't allowed to do that...

the ellimist breaks a lot of rules.
haha.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 07:53:27 PM »
Quote from: goom on February 03, 2009, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: Stasiea on February 03, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
And why? "he/she/or what it is" isn't allowed to do that...

the ellimist breaks a lot of rules.
haha.

and Cryak laughs everytime he does so and steady counts them up.

so he can break them all at the same time when he wants to.
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 08:07:13 PM »
Quote from: Shock on February 03, 2009, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: goom on February 03, 2009, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: Stasiea on February 03, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
And why? "he/she/or what it is" isn't allowed to do that...

the ellimist breaks a lot of rules.
haha.

and Cryak laughs everytime he does so and steady counts them up.

so he can break them all at the same time when he wants to.

Yes that's right ;)
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Re: How many andalites died when they invated the morphing??
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2009, 08:19:53 PM »
Quote from: DinosaurNothlit on February 03, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
That's an interesting question.  It might have been something they could work out theoretically, though.  They might just have found a bunch of equations to describe how the blue boxes worked, and then changed the parameters of those without actually conducting many tests.

If not, and they did have to do experiments to test it, then I think I'd feel most sorry for the guys who got trapped in morph before they learned about the two hour limit.  :(

OK that theory is thrown out if you ask me. I'm very good at mathematics and no one have ever invented anything only by equations. The Chinese didn't do it, the Egyptians didn't do it, Einstein and Steven Hawkins... Ada Lovelace was close actually but no. And to mention the Egyptians. Erek was there, right? And he is superior to the andalites so at least one of them had to be involved in the science.

Take the Space Race for example, 7 Americans and 5 Russians died before it was over despite the equations. And I think Ax said something about this took a longer time for them. We must count on that fact too.

Quote from: Azguard on February 03, 2009, 11:26:16 AM
hmmm...i think there would have been a few accidents. Maybe some andalies becoming overwhelmed by their morph. but this is assuming that the morphing technology in the beginning is like how it is now. I mean, if 5 human kids can get a grip on it, i don't think it would have been too bad.

i wonder if they knew about the 2 hour limit from the begining? probably.

Find ten people here on RAF who can use the first computer then ;)
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