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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2008, 09:26:54 AM »
If the yeerks all become nothlits, then they cant die as yeerks. In order for yeerks to reproduce they have to die. They are killing their species by not allowing themselves to reproduce. IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!!!! AAAAHHHH

primitive creatures have the mind set of i can die to preserve the species , but intelligent creatures especially the self preserving type like yeerks would preserve them self and the specie be damned (pardon my french)

and as far as alien civil rights go , i think humans would end up being just as horrible to them as the Germany was to the jews , we would have all kinds of comparisons for how hte end was coming and they will destroy the earth if we dont stop them ,


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2008, 10:52:21 AM »
 Well.  i guess there are three categories for the Yeerks.

1. Yeerks who stay on Earth in natural form.

2. Yeerks who stay in hosts.

3. Yeerks who become nothlits.

 I think the key here are the Andalties. I think they would request to have ALL Yeerks who do not wish to be nothlits. The Yeerks with hosts would be forced to exit. ^^ As for alien rights, I believe the government would impose some sort of rights to ensure order. I think people would be unsettled to know there ARE aliens living here, but I think for the most part, the peaceful ones would not be bothered too much.

 The only thing that would bother me would be if a Yeerk morphed human and stayed nothlit. Even if they were human, if you had this conception of them born by the media, you would never ever trust them.

 Back to the Andalites, I believe the balance of power would easily become unbalanced. I think eventually, especially because Earth would be such a key now (what with Hork-Bajirs, Taxxons, and Yeerks running around), the Andalites would start imposing restrictions on Human governments.
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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2008, 04:14:01 PM »
I went back and read parts of #54, and it seems as though most Yeerks left the planet and were sent back to their homeworld, or they morphed--to what, it doesn't say.  There's no mention of them when Jake talks about the rise of anti-alien terrorism, and I'd think they'd be the prime victims for attack by people who want aliens to leave the planet.  So, it's probably all just guesswork figuring how Yeerks were treated, if any did remain on the planet.  Wish we'd gotten some clarification on that  ::)

Early on in the book it's mentioned that four morphing cubes are given to Ax to do whatever he wants with (weird image of him trying to juggle them x3), so presumably Yeerks would be given access to one of these, to fulfill Jake's promise of allowing the morphing power to those who want it. 

I still like the idea of Yeerks staying on Earth, especially as humans.  Again, some of the Yeerks who might be considered trustworthy, like the Peace Movement members, might be allowed to do something like that.  But most people probably wouldn't want one of them as their neighbor o.O;

Just human nature, I guess.


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2008, 12:50:19 AM »
 I always presumed the Taxxons morphs anaconda, and the Yeerks morphed whales.

 For those of you who have read Ender's Game, I suppose it would be kinda like what happened after the first book. The humans are allright as long as the aliens weren't around too much....but as soon as you meet one, your xenophobia goes up and you're way suspicious. Think about it. I would be. I won't lie.
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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2008, 06:23:37 PM »
Oh yeah, I never thought about the Yeerks becoming whales.  I guess some of them would probably like that.  I wonder if the government would allow them to morph human permanently if they were registered and kept on some kinda watch list?  Creepy to think about.


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2008, 08:54:13 PM »
 they would probably still be discrimniated against. and it would be hard for them to fit into our society unless they started young.
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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 09:07:47 PM »
That's interesting, too.  What if a prospective nothlit decided to morph a kid?  Uber creepy XD  Whenever kids know too much it weirds me out.


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 11:21:19 PM »
 unless he's a young yeerk. I don't think they would allow a older yeerk to morph someone young...yeah, that would be weird.

 and imagining marrying a yeerk nothlit! unless they're cool like Aftran.
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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 11:41:34 PM »
Would marriage even be allowed between aliens and humans? o.O  It's the next hot button political issue!


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2008, 04:14:38 PM »
 I want to see what Obama and McCain have to say  about this!
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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2008, 05:50:14 PM »
Yes, it's a critical election issue!  ;D


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2008, 07:48:27 PM »
I still find the whole mandatory nothlitism thing a bit disturbing.

The Taxxon race is going to be dead within one generation. An entire race giving up its existence to silence hunger. I suppose in that situation it is their choice.

If all of the Yeerks are forced into their natural state or to become nothlits you have a different issue. I know its been discussed before, but does that count as genocide? So many Yeerks would choose becoming a nothlit over returning to life blind and deaf. But whatever creature they choose to become...whether human, kafit bird, whale, etc. the offspring of the Yeerk will not be Yeerk. Is it just a belated and "nice" way to murder a race who was doing what it was designed to do?

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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2008, 08:04:53 PM »
I know, it IS really disturbing to think that there will probably be no way for Taxxons to pass on their Taxxon ways to their snake offspring.  And as for Yeerks, the only way I could see that happening is if they were human nothlits, and brought some of their culture to their human children.  But they wouldn't be Yeerks, of course.  It's probably one of the darkest things in the series, masked as a good alternative for those aliens who had the misfortune of being biologically handicapped in some way.

I wish it had been better explored in the series ::)


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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2008, 09:45:26 PM »
Quick! Somebody write a fanfic before we forget about this!!! :o
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Re: Alien Civil Rights
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 01:20:18 AM »
Quick! Somebody write a fanfic before we forget about this!!! :o

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