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Offline JFalcon

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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2009, 08:25:23 AM »
Aye but for all we know Cassie is the only one who survived that final, epic "Ram the Blade Ship!" command.
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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2009, 02:50:11 PM »
Aye but for all we know Cassie is the only one who survived that final, epic "Ram the Blade Ship!" command.

Which is exactly my point.

KA was obviously trying to tell us something, it would have been all too easy for her to toss Cassie in along in that group on The Rachel. Also, Cassie seemed to be just fine with Ronnie.

Another thing, Marco already admitted to leading a shallow life that was boring him. While you're right about them being able to recover from war, some people don't. A lot of people kill themselves due to inability to cope with PTSD.[spoiler] These people often didn't have to send their own cousin to kill their brother, and end up losing both of them.[/spoiler] To think that Jake would've simply just jumped up and recovered one day is a huge stretch, Tobias had almost zero chance of recovery for the simple fact that he wouldn't allow himself to. Ax might've been fine, but that's because Andalites are born and raised to fight, and even he had his moments.

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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2009, 03:26:54 PM »
I never said he'd just jump up and recover one day. I'm just saying that given a few years, or even decades, he should be able to recover. Being young, he has that kind of time.

KA was trying to say something, but I just don't agree with her.


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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2009, 07:12:22 PM »
Man that is an old argument, and I agree with Chad28.
But other than that, I thought Marco was a hypocrite. Cassie overtly, yes, but Marco always said that plans were suicidal, idiotic, "insane" but he did them anyway. He was the only one that didn't want to fight at all, but he was always there. I mean it was a good hypocracy in that if he said he would and didn't he would be turning his back, but in this case he always stuck with. But he is still a hypocrite.
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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2009, 09:55:16 PM »
He's not a hypocrite for voclizing what everyone, except maybe Ax, is thinking on the inside. Even Rachel later in the series would likely rather be shopping than fighting.


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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2009, 06:34:05 AM »
He's not a hypocrite for voclizing what everyone, except maybe Ax, is thinking on the inside. Even Rachel later in the series would likely rather be shopping than fighting.

You beat me to it.

Ever since Book 3 (I think, where he found out about his mother) he stopped saying he wasn't going to do it, and just started saying how much he didn't want to do it. That's not close to being hypocritical, and this time I agree with Chad28, everyone else was thinking the same exact thing half the time.

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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2009, 08:26:05 AM »
It's book 5, but you're right. If anything, saying all that probably helps keep the group sane.


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Re: Most hypocritical animorph
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2009, 07:57:32 PM »
Marco was the comic relief.  Of course he "sounded" hypocritical at times.  In reality he was anything but.  He was actually one of the most consistent characters (in my opinion).

Unsurprisingly I concur with the majority: Cassie is by far the most hypocritical.  She was a poorly written character whose moral compass changed with each ghostwriter.

If you read the ending carefully you (may) see that everything that goes wrong can be laid either directly or indirectly at her feet.  The fact that she is the only one who makes it out of the war happy and lives on (by abandoning the other animorphs) is actually about as ironic and unjust ending as I've ever read. 

Perhaps that was KA's message which makes sense as all of her other "messages" were unrealistically dark.
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