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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 01:10:27 PM »
As suggested by Truth, I suspect that the Ellimist was behind this.

I find it hilarious that you're saying that. It's like you're talking in 3rd person. :P

he is the ellimist. that's what they do, act mysterious and odd :P
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 01:32:55 PM »
I hate that theory.
I really do, I get so sick of the Ellimist being the invisible puppet master.
He had it.
Why?
Cause he's Elfangor, and he's bad ass
Or maybe he had some other resason, I don't know, but really I refuse to give credit to the ellimist for that one, that's just too much
Something, something, oh crap I pissed everyone off again....

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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 03:41:55 PM »
Oh come on! Not this thread AGAIN! I know that not all of you will have been around as long as some of us, but we've had this discussion a billion times already! But since not all of you seem to remember that, here's a brief recap...

Yes it does seem highly unlikely that the Andalite's unique weapon would be aboard a Dome Ship, let alone a single fighter ship. However, if they did have it on board, I would think that their hero of the people (and probably their best pilot) would be a likely candidate to choose for its protection. Perhaps after being caught off guard by the Yeerks, the captain asked Elfangor to take it on his ship to keep it out of Yeerk hands (or it was already aboard his fighter in case such an attack on the Dome Ship occured).

The more likely solution is that the Ellimist intervened in some way, perhaps by placing the device on Elfangor's ship, or maybe by simply telling Elfangor that he would need it. Or Elfangor figured it out on his own based on what he saw when the Ellimist took him back to his original place in space and time (where he saw the time lines of the Animorphs combine).

To be honest though, I personally think that KA never really thought up a reason for why the box was on his ship. It just had to be there for the story to work.

EDIT: I also like RYTX's idea: "Cause he's Elfangor, and he's bad ass!"  ;)
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2008, 10:55:29 PM »
I agree with the theory above. Since the Escafil device is the crown jewel invention of the Andalites, it would be fitting to place one of its limited copies to the protection of the Legendary-Time-Warping-Yeerk-Butt-Kicking-Andalite-Hero named Elfangor.
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 10:51:57 PM »
Yessiree bob, that seems to be the one that ties together all the loose ends. Thanks, Phoenix! :wiggle:
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 07:45:56 AM »
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2009, 01:18:58 PM »
Maybe someone already said this in other words ...didn't read all the posts.
well i have thought of this before
1) He is a War prince and maybe they are allowed to carry Escafill devices.
2) He knew beforehand he was going to use it because Ellimist told him. BUT as usual the Ellimist is not clear on things so Elfangor starts carrying the thing with him all the time to have it available when he does need it.
3) The Ellimist told him he was going to use it in that specific battle . But not wanting to do that he decides to use the matrix instead and change the past only to end up where the Ellimist wanted him to be in the first place.
4) Elfangor was smuggling technology so he had that with him. (most likely not true but who knows XD I like to think of Elfangor as a nice guy that follows the law than again he did use the Escafil device XD)

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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2009, 02:53:50 PM »
I think Legendary Frog put it best in One Ring to Rule Them All: "Plot device, Mr. Frodo, plot device."

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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 04:54:53 PM »
The whole timeline thing surrounding the Time Matrix is pretty confusing, because they say Ax didn't exist in it. Or Does that mean he wasn't born yet?
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2009, 12:50:08 AM »
If Elfangor stayed on Earth Aximili would have never been born and Tobias would be born
If Elfangor would have never gone to Earth at all Aximili would be born but Tobias wouldn't exist.
The Ellimist tweaked with time and Allowed Elfangor to go to Eearth making Tobias Exist. After that he took him and put him in a place so that it is possible for Aximili to also exist.
You got to love the Ellimist's sneakiness right there allowing both of my favorite characters to exist.

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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2009, 07:24:00 PM »
why wouldnt ax be born?
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Re: Elfangor's Escafil Device
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2009, 12:57:06 AM »
i have no idea but When Elfangor asked all " I have a brother??" Ellimist told him NO not in this timeline

but after he fixed it he did have a brother.

have to find the exact lines

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