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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #255 on: November 30, 2010, 02:50:06 AM »
Also any used bookstore will typically have a large collection of 'em. That's where I found all mine.... Half-Price Books!

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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #256 on: November 30, 2010, 03:01:29 AM »
It's too bad the ebooks are gone. Even though I have them all there is no way to gain new readers now that there is no form of the books for free or for sale since they are out of print.

well, what about the re-release? that's kinda the reason they got taken down in the first place.

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« Reply #257 on: December 01, 2010, 09:32:00 PM »
well you seee the rereleases don't look as good as the originals to tell you the truth...
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« Reply #258 on: December 07, 2010, 03:03:47 PM »
     I still have trouble trying to wrap my head around why Scholastic would stop printing the series in the first place.
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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #259 on: December 07, 2010, 05:21:01 PM »
Economics. All the copies they were going to sell of the last half of the series probably were sold in the first few months of their release. I imagine the older copies were selling fairly low by a little after the end anyway.

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« Reply #260 on: December 08, 2010, 12:12:39 PM »
The economics have changed: thanks to digital typeset and paperback printers, "out-of-print" could now just mean "special order."  And by "special order," I mean "wait 15 minutes for the machine out back to finish whipping up your book."

Or, put them in the supply chain.  Eight of these machines, costing about a million dollars, replace a lot of warehouse, especially because it means your entire back catalog is never out of print. 

But, a lot of publishers don't do this.  My conspiracy theory runs like this:

Publishers put up a lot of money to bring a book to print: editing, initial print run, marketing, maybe an advance.  (Yeah...)  They then add in a percentage for their profit, call it a loan, and take the royalties until that loan is paid off.

That means books go through three stages:  1) they earn back the publisher's investment, 2) profit goes to the publisher, 3) the publisher splits royalties with the author.  Finally, if the book is very old, it's in a fourth stage: anyone can print it or download it from Gutenberg/Google Books/etc., the market is competitive and the publisher thus only makes normal profits.

A lot of books peter out in stage 1.  This is a risk of doing business, and is (hopefully) made up by profits on successful books.  Stage 2 is pure gravy.  But, them damn classics hanging out in stage 3 are just clogging up the market.

Do you think the publishers are going to be wild for something that lets books live forever?  That's why we still have "out of print."
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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #261 on: December 08, 2010, 06:55:51 PM »
     Well, saves me the trip to Amazon and all of that internet mumbo jumbo. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer going to a bookstore and taking the thing home with me, to the whole "Looks what's in my mailbox!" Approach.

     I don't know. I'm ignorant when it comes to economics and politics.
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« Reply #262 on: December 09, 2010, 05:46:55 PM »
^complete ditto^
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« Reply #263 on: March 05, 2011, 09:28:16 AM »
I've got all the books on .pdf if you want 'em.

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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #264 on: March 05, 2011, 02:20:04 PM »
you're not to distribute them on RAF.

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« Reply #265 on: March 06, 2011, 02:50:05 PM »
Goom is right, you can't distribute the ebooks via RAF anymore, as it will get us into trouble with Scholastic.
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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #266 on: March 08, 2011, 11:10:37 AM »
I gotta say I disagree with the idea of having free ebooks here in the first place cause I don't agree with piracy. You really pay for something you want. Worse than that in this case at the very least you should support the things you love, and giving them out to everyone for free goes way against that notion. I know that there is a big difference between piracy and theft, but I at least expect people to support the things they love.

I'm rambling at this point so I'm gonna go ahead and quit there. It's just irritating is all.

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Re: ebooks gone
« Reply #267 on: March 08, 2011, 12:29:37 PM »
It should be noted that the authors, and Scholastic for that matter, don't make money off of books that are out of print. That copy of #1 you buy used off Amazon? The seller sees the money, they don't.

So, no. While they were out of print, it really didn't make a difference. Buying them used didn't support anyone but the people selling the used copies. Obviously, it's different with them being reprinted, but they were going to be taken down then anyway.

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