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Title: Animorphs Film
Post by: wolfev on July 06, 2008, 09:20:11 PM
I created this thread in order for people to discuss the Animorphs Film. The film may not be a reality yet but I think there is a good chance that it could happen. Here is a problem though. When the film is made the books will be re-released, probably with new covers and stuff. Then they will enforce the copyright laws on the forum and e-books.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Slushie Man on July 06, 2008, 09:29:47 PM
I didn't even know there was talks of a movie.

Either way, IF it happens, that's still a LONG way off, so that's plenty of time for everyone to save the files to their computers. And they may not even enforce it. This site might not even register on their minds. Another thing that can be do if they do Enforce it, is simply remove the link to them from the board, but keep the webpage out there in cyberspace, so the ONLY way to get to it, is to type in the web address for it. That way the people who currently come here can still access it, but as far as the suits are concerned, it's been removed.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: RYTX on July 06, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
KA and her husband where on RAF classic for a while and said that some folks in the biz where seriously looking at a doing a movie. Other than that it's kinda up in the air. My concern is are we already to late?
I mean Nancy Drew is still a household name, but the movie that arose this last decade didn't revamp or revive the series (plus the film itself wasn't some stellar success).
I don't know what they'd do about e-book stuff, all sorts of media has some sort of "leech" on it's copyright now that's either ignored or just too much to dismantle
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Slushie Man on July 06, 2008, 09:56:36 PM
I know there are also talks of a Hardy Boys movie and a Goosebumps movie too (Which I have no idea how they're gonna work that one out short of a Creepshow-like format), so maybe they're going to wait and see how those do before making a final decision on this one.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 06, 2008, 10:00:11 PM
It would be really great if there was an Animorphs film, but it's been a while since that was mentioned, so who really knows?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Duff on July 06, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
They have already made alot of goosebump movies, maybe they were tv movies but ive got one on vhs so i dno

All we knew was it was probably getting pitched to some studios, so who knows how the pitch went, we should hear something about it kinda soon (like in the next year) if anything actually happened, nothing official but some kind of rumor

i really dont see them re-releasing the books, it doesnt make much sense financially, but if a movie was made then that would release some serious interest in animorphs which would blow up the ebooks spot like crazy and they may be taken down, i dont think rich can be sued tho, hopefully not
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Slushie Man on July 06, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
"They have already made alot of goosebump movies, maybe they were tv movies but ive got one on vhs so i dno"

Yeah, there was a TV show in the 90's, where each episode was based off one of the books, but they're talking about make a full-length theatrical movie to be released in 2009 or 2010, in theaters. There were articles about it on most movie news sites last month.

(Here's one of those articles if anyone's interested: http://www.cinematical.com/2008/05/15/goosebumps-to-finally-hit-the-silver-screen/ (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/05/15/goosebumps-to-finally-hit-the-silver-screen/))

And they probably would re-release the books if a movie was made. Maybe not with new covers though, but it's smart from a financial point of view. The books are near-impossible to find these days, at least in my neck of the woods, and if the movie turns out good and a success, you'll have old fans wanting to read the books again, and you'll have new fans brought in by the movie, mostly younger kids, who will want to read the books. Again, it really all depends on how well the movie does.

Also, Richard will only be sued if he's given a warning first that he ignores. As long as he follows the warning, nothing will happen to him, so no worries there.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Nateosaurus on July 07, 2008, 03:52:38 AM
I'm definately not getting my hopes up..

if there was a movie, that'd be awesome beyond all awesomeness though
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Gaz on July 07, 2008, 09:41:36 AM
A movie, if done correctly, would be fantastic. Anything to make up for the TV show. With a larger budget, better CGI and special effects (cough*VisserMcMuppet*cough*) and no random non-existent plot elements (can you say disc?), the movie could prove to be interesting.

It would have the potential to draw in crowds of dedicated fans and others purely out of curiosity. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is how they would pull all this together into a coherent 2 hour film. I know they wouldn't try to pull all 54 books into one movie, that would be dumb.

Harry Potter is one film per book, and they can't do that. Films like Series of Unfortunate Events and the upcoming Cirque Du Freak are all based on books 1 through 3 of their respective series. Then again, those series are only about 10 to 12 books long. However, the Animorphs books are a lot thinner than those ranging around 150 pages, I think. The others mentioned can go up to 200 and beyond.

I guess Animorphs books don't have too many major plot elements. Perhaps they could at least go up through book 4 where all the major characters are introduced and focus on the plots that really drive the books forward. And of course there would have to be scenes of the kids being kids. School, dealing with family and all that.

As long as they stick to the basic rules:

1) No Andalite arm wrestling! I'm sure that's beneath them or something.
2) No Visser McMuppet
3) Don't make it look like Ax and the Visser are perpetually in morph. I'm sure they're not exempt from the time limit.
4) Don't make it look like the Andalites skinned Grover and Cookie Monster and turned them into fuzzy arm warmers.
5) Don't let the main characters look like college rejects perpetually caught in a High School time loop.
6) Where are the bloody Taxxons?!
7) I'm quite sure the Yeerks conquered more than one Hork-Bajir. "Hey! It's my turn to be the Hork-Bajir host!"
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Gumby on July 07, 2008, 09:48:36 AM
8) Show the entire Hork.bajir for once.
9) Use Dracon beams, not flashlights with an aimer strapped on.
10) ax move his tail for once.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Slushie Man on July 07, 2008, 09:52:51 AM
A theatrical movie would easily have all that stuff, cause it would have a MUCH larger budget then a ****ty TV show on Nickelodeon, plus special effects have come a long way since the 90's as well.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Essam 293 on July 07, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
They actually did show the Hork-Bajir in full on the TV show. It was in the episode "Between Friends" (based on #2) where Chapman goes to visit Visser Three to give the cat Rachel morphed into. Chapman goes by the gate and there are two Hork-Bajir guards standing there. It looked incredibly lame. Like claymation almost, because they just moved their head and arms, lol :P
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 07, 2008, 01:49:20 PM
Yeah. Hork-Bajirs just looked...dumb. And I don't mean like smarts wise.

Andalites were demented Furbies though. Those things were already scary enough.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: wolfev on July 07, 2008, 02:37:09 PM
Yea, Ax had a Mohawk
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 07, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
I know...That was odd...Stupid rebellious teenage Andalites..;)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: SuperBlue on July 07, 2008, 05:12:42 PM
I didn't even relize Andalite had fur(or more than 5 fingers) until I saw the show
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Yorick Brown on July 08, 2008, 01:04:35 AM
Andalites always had seven fingers and blue fur.

Anyway, I think the only way a movie could work is if they adapted The Invasion into a two-hour long film. It'd feel like nothing more than an ambitious TV pilot that somehow got on the big screen but it's the only logical approach. Introduce Ax in the sequel?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Hunter on July 08, 2008, 01:09:51 AM
Anyway, I think the only way a movie could work is if they adapted The Invasion into a two-hour long film. It'd feel like nothing more than an ambitious TV pilot taht somehow got on the big screen but it's the only logical approach. Introduce Ax in the sequel?

ya know Yorick, that might just work... altho, to make it work, it'll have to be like apocalypse now, and it'll have to go for what, 3 hours? 3 1/2? maybe...
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Touquie on July 08, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_going_to_be_a_animorphs_movie
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Q: Is there going to be a animorphs movie?

Answer
Yes, there will be.

Answer:

Yeah, I think there is, but it's not gonna come out for quite a while and I don't think you can look up much about it 'cause there's limited information. It's in cartoon format, from what I've heard. I dunno, maybe there making it into a live action thing, too. But, I'm counting on the cartoon.

I wouldn't trust this though...it doesn't seem all that reliable. 

When I was searching for any new info about a possible Animorphs movie I noticed that that there are other forums out there that were quoting the RAF post about a possible movie :D  There were two power rangers forums and one other animorphs forum.  Lol, when I was looking at the other ani forum I just kept thinking, "Oh yeah?  Well KA HERSELF came to our forum!  HaHAH!"
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Essam 293 on July 08, 2008, 08:13:42 PM
Never, never, trust Wikipedia for reliable information. Anyone can change stuff on there. K.A herself doesn't even know what the full details are, so how can they?

People are incredibly naive when it comes to stuff like this. They listen to a few rumors and assume it's the truth. The movie isn't confirmed yet. The last we heard, it was only being pitched by someone to be considered as a movie. There has been no news on whether it was actually picked up, or pushed aside for later consideration.

Don't get your hopes up unless you actually see a press release about it, or if K.A actually comes in here and says "Guys, we're getting a movie!"
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: zaprowsdower on July 08, 2008, 08:21:23 PM
Don't believe the krap about how Wikipedia is unreliable. >:(
I work on it and know for a fact that everyone in it takes vandalism and accuracy very seriously.
I'd say only around 3% at any given time is something inaccuarate.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Mongoose on July 09, 2008, 06:03:01 AM
Since this thread seems to be about all things related, lets talk director. I gave the matter some thought and my personal choice would be Matt Reeves of Cloverfield fame.
First of all, Cloverfield, come on, easily one of the best films of the year. Specifically I liked how he was able to show the monster destroying the city in the background, but the focus of the film was very much the people on ground level, the human story really came though. Plus even with everything going on he was able to inject a little humor (I found the conversation about the 'flaming homeless guys' hilarious). Also having a background in TV drama and not just big budget sci-fi means he's not just about the monsters and can show people's lives and show character development
I would be happier with an Animorphs film in the hands of a 'grown up' director, rather than someone who's whole background is kids films, I can trust him not to sanitise the darker aspects of the plot.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Essam 293 on July 09, 2008, 07:33:01 AM
Don't believe the krap about how Wikipedia is unreliable. >:(
I work on it and know for a fact that everyone in it takes vandalism and accuracy very seriously.
I'd say only around 3% at any given time is something inaccuarate.

Please show me stats or some sort of proof of where you got this % fact from. (Are you saying the 3% is a guess of inaccuracy of the pages you handle, or all of Wikipedia?)

Either way, I wasn't arguing about how the staff doesn't handle vandalism or accuracy responsibly. I was saying that it still does happen regardless, and I'm right at this moment because Wikipedia is inaccurate in the answer posted in the above link.

I'm also not looking to argue with you, or get off-topic about this. I just wanna make sure that people know the actual facts about the film, rather than the rumors posted. Don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Yorick Brown on July 09, 2008, 11:52:46 AM
Directors:

-Todd Holland
-Bryan Spicer
-Joe Dante
-Brian Henson
-Simon Wells
-Mikael Salomon
-Stephen Norrington
-Joe Johnston
-Stephen Hopkins

How about any of them, Mongoose?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: morfowt on July 09, 2008, 12:07:34 PM
I really don't care since I don't know any of them.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: WildAtHeart on July 09, 2008, 12:39:57 PM
My dream director would be Joss Whedon. Buffy/Angel showed how he can balance drama,action, & humor. And Serenity/Firefly showed how he knows how to do sci-fi related stuff.

and with Buffy, he took someone you wouldn't expected to be a hero, a ditzy cheerleader, and showed how fighting made her "grow up." I could see him doing that with Animorphs cause you have regular teens being heros
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Duff on July 09, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
But hes never really done movies, especially not a big summer blockbuster like this would have to aim towards

sonnenfield might be okay, hes experience with big sci-fi movies, but this is a slightly different kind

i thought alfonso cuaron did a good job on prisoner of azkaban, that might work

bryan singer was good with the x-men movies, and i guess he did what he could with superman returns, but he might not be dark enough
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: zaprowsdower on July 09, 2008, 01:40:43 PM
I just hope now they do the aliens right.
I saw the TV pilot the other day on youtube. You saw so very little of the andalites and the hork-bajir looked like a giant mutated chicken!

If Mike & the Bots were watching, they'd see the hork-bajir and say "It's the kind of chicken they serve at KFC!"
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: WildAtHeart on July 09, 2008, 01:46:39 PM
i don't think the fact that Joss has never directed a blockbuster should count against him.  He has written and co-written blockbusters before: Toy Story,Speed,Alien:Resurrection.  And X-Men: The Last Stand's plot was almost an exact copy of a storyline he wrote for the comic. He just got a horror movie idea of his greenlit for production

if they go by who directs blockbusters, we might get someone like Michael Bay, who ruins basically every movie he touches but still walks around with all this arrogance, like his movies are God's Gift to mankind lol

and i'm not sure if Alfonso Cuaron would work, because only two of his movies are good.

Bryan Singer could be good if he can do as good a job as he did on the X-men films. 


Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: zaprowsdower on July 09, 2008, 01:50:25 PM
Not Spielberg, because he oversentimentalizes just about every movie he ever touches. :(
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Yorick Brown on July 09, 2008, 01:54:49 PM
What a typo! You wrote Spielberg when you obviously meant to type someone else's name, like Garry Marshall. Spielberg is one of the greatest filmmakers since the invention of the motion picture ad would absolutely nail this movie but someone of his caliber isn't necessary.

Joss Whedon would turn KA Applegate's Animorphs into Joss Whedon's Animorphs. He always has to have everything his way. I wouldn't trust him with this material.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Duff on July 09, 2008, 01:55:46 PM
yea spielberg is clearly one of the best, but i just cant see him for this, doesnt seem like a good fit
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: zaprowsdower on July 09, 2008, 01:58:55 PM
Yes, Spielberg's great, so great that he's not hampered by his oversentimentalizin g! :P
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: WildAtHeart on July 09, 2008, 02:09:35 PM
not sure if i could see Spielberg with this...it might end up like WOTW...99% great movie, 1% awful,cheesy ending that makes no sense lol

Joss Whedon would turn KA Applegate's Animorphs into Joss Whedon's Animorphs. He always has to have everything his way. I wouldn't trust him with this material.

i like that he wants things his way. He gets into arguments with studios because they ruin his films. Like Buffy, the studio changed the 1992 original film from what Joss had in mind...the movie bombs.  When Joss does the tv show his way, it ends up developing one of the most dedicated fanbases in history.  That's the same with other films he has a part in...anytime they change his scripts around from what Joss wants to what they think will make more money, the movies end up bombing or underperforming(which i love lol. anytime studios go for money over a quality film, i love when it blows up in their faces so much lol).  And I think he would allow a lot of input from K.A. so it would still be faithful to the series, because he said before, that if he ever directed a Harry Potter film, he would check in with J.K. as much as he could
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Mongoose on July 10, 2008, 12:49:51 PM
Have to admit, Joss would be good, I'm a huge fan of Buffy/Angel and Firefly and I think he has the style and the wit to carry it off. To be fair, everything he's done, all the TV and film projects that he's prominently associated with have been his own creation. He's worked for years as a writer on X-Men for example, and no-one (to my knowledge) has accused him of Whedonising everything. He strikes me as someone who would be respectful to the source material.

Spielberg has got to the point where I will never suggest him for a film, he just sort of goes off and does his own thing. I doubt he'd be interested anyway.

Directors:

-Todd Holland?
-Joe Dante?
-Bryan Spicer?

Jo Dante's my favorite of the three, while he's done a lit of comedy he's got a few decent horrors in there as well. And I have to admit, I did love Gremlins.
While not horrible choices I don't think the other two really lend themselves naturally to an Animorphs film. They both have predominantly TV background, and while Spicer has worked on some good series in recent years, Holland has mainly comedies and a kids film on his resume.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Yorick Brown on July 10, 2008, 02:53:26 PM
I like Joss Whedon. "Buffy" and "Angel." "Firefly" not so much but it was okay. He's a telented writer but he has to do everything his way and to his satisfaction alone. Just look at the "X-Mne" movie debacle.

I agree that Steven Spielberg wouldn;t be interested in this movie and a director of his caliber wouldn't even be necessary, but why do you dislike the guy?

I really liked Todd Holland's unsold "Time Tunnel" pilot and can work with youngsters and is veteran of f/x and sci-fi and fantasy and action. Actually, I think he's the best choice for the job. Some other possible directors are Brian Henson (guy I'd like to direct my pilot), Simon Wells, Mikael Salomon, Stephen Norrington, Joe Johnston and Stephen Hopkins. I'll edit them in in my earlier post.

Who could write it?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: wolfev on July 10, 2008, 08:04:29 PM
Spielberg is a terrible director. He has like 3 good movies and the rest are over hyped. I'd like to see the Stanley Kubrick Animorphs.

You could get Wendy Carlos to do the Synthesized score. It would open with all the animorphs sitting with Jake in the center holding the Morphing cube and doing this weird stare into the camera as it pans out.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on June 08, 2015, 01:52:00 PM
I expect that an Animorphs film would be nominated for awards in makeup and/or computer animation!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on June 08, 2015, 04:19:35 PM
Dude.  These threads are all approaching a decade old.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on June 08, 2015, 04:57:45 PM
I am not aware of a rule requiring that I respond only to NEW threads!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on June 08, 2015, 05:08:18 PM
Haha, no, it's not that.  It's just resurrecting so many of 'em simultaneously...
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on June 08, 2015, 08:27:10 PM
Haha, no, it's not that.  It's just resurrecting so many of 'em simultaneously...

Nor am I aware of any rule limiting how many threads I can bring back from the dead!  :)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: matthew on June 08, 2015, 11:11:05 PM
Michael Grant did tweet something about there still being some interest on March 15.  So yeah, there's some hope.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on June 09, 2015, 03:05:31 AM
*Does the evil jinxing dance hoping it never happens*  Lala lala laa.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on June 25, 2015, 05:43:07 AM
I expect that an Animorphs film would be nominated for awards in makeup and/or computer animation!
I wish... :P
Sony still has the domains bought up, so there is still a 3% chance of there being an Animorphs movie. Very slim chance, but still a chance

Might Sony be afraid that the North Korean government might object to an Animorphs movie (which would feature kids waging a guerrilla war against a dictatorship), and sick its hackers on Sony again?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: poparena on September 09, 2015, 07:15:51 PM
So, it looks like it might just happen.

http://t.co/VdTkjZjuNM (http://t.co/VdTkjZjuNM)

I would still put this in the "maybe" column, probably less likely if the upcoming Goosebumps film bombs, but I think we're now closer to an Animorphs movie then we've ever been.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 09, 2015, 07:27:32 PM
After hearing about the Goosebumps film, I remember thinking that its success might give Animorphs a chance. Glad to hear it's actually a possibility rather than just a hopeful rumour. If something like this was done well, it would be AMAZING. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but the trailer for Goosebumps actually looks good (despite the TV show being as bad as the Animorphs show).
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 09, 2015, 08:19:15 PM
OH. MY. GOSH.

I'd prefer a TV series, but I can live with this if it happens. But Deborah Forte is to produce.

The TV series producer.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on September 10, 2015, 01:45:46 AM
So, it looks like it might just happen.

http://t.co/VdTkjZjuNM (http://t.co/VdTkjZjuNM)

I would still put this in the "maybe" column, probably less likely if the upcoming Goosebumps film bombs, but I think we're now closer to an Animorphs movie then we've ever been.

Will RAF organize a crowd funding campaign to make the movie's production more likely?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 10, 2015, 02:11:22 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about her being involved with the TV series.  If she's head of Scholastic media, she'd have been involved in getting a whole lot of stuff off the ground over the years, and Animorphs '98 was fifteen years ago on a shoestring budget with a young audience in mind.

Not to say I'm confident about this, but "major motion picture" and "Nickelodeon cash-in shot in Canada in 1998 for cheap" are apples and oranges, the same producer doesn't mean too much.

I'd say we shouldn't get too excited, either, like a third of movies that "are searching for writers and directors" never get past that stage, sort of peter out and go into development hell until the studio gives up and moves onto other things.  It might happen, yeah, but this alone doesn't mean a whole lot more than a couple of years ago when Katherine & Michael announced "some movie studios have approached us to talk".  A thousand factors are going to contribute to whether this actually happens or not, and I have a sneaking suspicion that if it does, given the lack of audience they might just go on the cheap, a sort of teen-fad thing that generally nobody gives a **** about and doesn't make any impact whatsoever.  More Percy Jackson than Harry Potter, more The Maze Runner or Divergent than The Hunger Games.  The B-level.

It's exciting, but just don't take this as "it's happening".  Because it likely still won't.  Especially, as someone else said, if the Goosebumps flick doesn't make a dent.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 10, 2015, 05:04:43 AM
If KA and MG have any say in the process at all, I'll be a lot more confident. They won't want a repeat of the TV show's failure.

I don't think I'll truly believe this is real until I see a trailer, and I won't believe it's good until I actually watch it. Having said that, still very exciting! :D
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Adam on September 10, 2015, 05:58:11 AM
How would a movie go down? Considering how much backstory went into Animorphs, how much detail could they fit into 2 hours? Hell, even the TV show took out a lot of the good stuff from the books.
I'd love to see it happen, but by no means does that mean that the movie will be satisfying! It was those extra details in the books, like the Chee, the YPM, the Taxxons, the Hork-Bajir backstory, etc... that made the story ten times more interesting than it would have been!  Would they be included in a 2 hour movie?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 10, 2015, 06:02:14 AM
Yeah. AT LEAST A DARN MINISERIES!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: RYTX on September 10, 2015, 06:52:15 AM
okay, I'm all ready scared. Maybe I'm reading it to literally but from the article

Quote
Taking on the Animorphs moniker, the teens use their powers to battle an alien invasion in which they take the form of humans, making them difficult to detect.

So, would the Yeerks just going to be shape shifters, or are the animorphs only morphing humans, or is this just terrible English.

I don't know. What I'm really try to say is they should hire me as a consultant.
Having the author involved would be nice, but at this point the fans know the series more intimately than the creators
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 10, 2015, 07:18:20 AM
And who's "they?" Bad article! Go sit in the corner!

If Applegate/Grant are involved I'll be okay, but until then...
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 10, 2015, 10:42:58 AM
I highly doubt they would make the Yeerks shape shifters instead of parasites, but if they did yes that would totally ruin it.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: tigz on September 10, 2015, 11:36:04 AM
How would a movie go down? Considering how much backstory went into Animorphs, how much detail could they fit into 2 hours? Hell, even the TV show took out a lot of the good stuff from the books.
I'd love to see it happen, but by no means does that mean that the movie will be satisfying! It was those extra details in the books, like the Chee, the YPM, the Taxxons, the Hork-Bajir backstory, etc... that made the story ten times more interesting than it would have been!  Would they be included in a 2 hour movie?

I cant envision any possible way a satisfying and fulfilling story can be put into a 2 hour movie UNLESS its specifically an origination movie combining elements of books 1 and 2 only. this would then lead into a tv series continuing from where the film ends with all the continuity including same cast and crew.
that being said, the source article looks rather sketchy anyway so i'l wait until i hear something more definitive.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on September 10, 2015, 01:40:38 PM
What should happen in an Animorphs film?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 10, 2015, 03:48:50 PM
Nothing. It should be a TV series.

And it does look rather sketchy, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: poparena on September 10, 2015, 04:43:05 PM
A lot of people saying they want Katherine Applegate and Michael Grant involved. You know who I want involved? People who know how to make good movies.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 10, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
How would a movie go down? Considering how much backstory went into Animorphs, how much detail could they fit into 2 hours? Hell, even the TV show took out a lot of the good stuff from the books.
I'd love to see it happen, but by no means does that mean that the movie will be satisfying! It was those extra details in the books, like the Chee, the YPM, the Taxxons, the Hork-Bajir backstory, etc... that made the story ten times more interesting than it would have been!  Would they be included in a 2 hour movie?
Obviously, if they were to get into any of that stuff, it would have to be a film series. Multiple animovies could happen if that first does well (And I'm going off that if the first movie happens).
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: matthew on September 10, 2015, 05:05:09 PM
Any thoughts on what this movie should look like? (as in what books it would adapt)

I planned out an 8 movie series for Animorphs, although I know this will never happen in this reality.  First movie I had as being most of book 1(with a bit of 2), then the Ax underwater plot from 4 mixed with the Pool Ship and Visser One stuff from 5.  Final climax would be destruction of Kandrona.  That said, it looks like this movie would have pretty massive pacing issues.  Maybe have Ax on land like the TV show? What I had in mind was that each character should have their motivation for the war established by the end of the first movie.

It's probably just better to go with a two hour movie that includes most of book 1 with the Chapman mission from book 2.  Maybe add a few things even.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 10, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
A lot of people saying they want Katherine Applegate and Michael Grant involved. You know who I want involved? People who know how to make good movies.
How about both?
Obviously, if they were to get into any of that stuff, it would have to be a film series. Multiple animovies could happen if that first does well (And I'm going off that if the first movie happens).
Thing is, if the first movie fails, it could easily end on a cliffhanger.
Any thoughts on what this movie should look like? (as in what books it would adapt)

I planned out an 8 movie series for Animorphs, although I know this will never happen in this reality.  First movie I had as being most of book 1(with a bit of 2), then the Ax underwater plot from 4 mixed with the Pool Ship and Visser One stuff from 5.  Final climax would be destruction of Kandrona.  That said, it looks like this movie would have pretty massive pacing issues.  Maybe have Ax on land like the TV show? What I had in mind was that each character should have their motivation for the war established by the end of the first movie.

It's probably just better to go with a two hour movie that includes most of book 1 with the Chapman mission from book 2.  Maybe add a few things even.
Chapman mission isn't very climactic. It wasn't very important to the main story apart from showing a more personal situation in the war. The first book doesn't show the overarching themes very well - it's mostly setup. As I said in the "arrested" topic, you couldn't shove all the character development into 2 hours. A movie just wouldn't work without gigantic changes.

Changes that improve upon the story = good
Changes that are useless but don't really affect the story = meh
Changes that are there because of the form in which the story is being adapted that changes the story so that it feels like an adaptation in name only = NYURRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH HHHHH!!!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: matthew on September 10, 2015, 06:48:30 PM
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Chapman mission isn't very climactic. It wasn't very important to the main story apart from showing a more personal situation in the war. The first book doesn't show the overarching themes very well - it's mostly setup. As I said in the "arrested" topic, you couldn't shove all the character development into 2 hours. A movie just wouldn't work without gigantic changes.
The Chapman mission doesn't necessarily need to be climatic.  It just needs to be there to show that personal situation, and make the audience care about the implications of the invasion.  A movie made from the first book could work in its own right, but I agree that a TV show would be better.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 10, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
But at the very end of the movie it probably wouldn't fit. The end of movies is usually the biggest, most exciting part. It'd be odd to have a huge battle in the middle and then have the end sort of... trail off.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: matthew on September 10, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
Right, this is why it would be thrown in the middle of the movie.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 10, 2015, 08:44:21 PM
Personally, I'd want the first movie to atleast cover the important stuff from the first five books. I think a good ending would be battle while escaping from the yeerkship like from book 5
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 10, 2015, 09:02:45 PM
Right, this is why it would be thrown in the middle of the movie.
Oh!
Personally, I'd want the first movie to atleast cover the important stuff from the first five books. I think a good ending would be battle while escaping from the yeerkship like from book 5
Maybe! Having the "marco's mommy mission" story begin in the first movie might not be a good idea, though. Despite it being very well-done, in the first movie, there wouldn't be enough time for them to realize how cool Animorphs is before they decide this is just copying Star Wars, which it is not.

I still think that a TV series is the way to go. Shoot, I'd love a cult animated series on a non-cable channel. (Not that that would make sense business-wise.)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 11, 2015, 02:38:33 AM
A lot of people saying they want Katherine Applegate and Michael Grant involved. You know who I want involved? People who know how to make good movies.


Right, but that's a subjective thing too.  Different tastes for different people.

Also, if you're meaning in terms of big established "names", A-list directors, it's almost a foregone conclusion that nobody like that is going to want to do this.  A lot of these adaptations (not all, but most, especially with the teen-novel thing) tend to go to younger up-and-comers, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

And everyone, what's the point of keeping on repeating "it should be a TV series instead!"  Maybe it should, but they've announced a movie.  B*tching about the format seems a little moot.

I'm way more concerned about the rating than the format.  Even with a TV series they'd be cutting stuff out and rearranging/streamlining, it's not like we're going to get a book-by-book page-by-page faithfulness in any adaptation.

I'm just sort of thinking...how many of these young actors (if they have the balls to go that way for a movie) are actually any good, Harry Potter aside?  So many of these movies fall on their face because the leads are all unlikable, smug little brats, and that could be a huge pitfull.  That being said, you don't want to age everyone up to 17/18/19 either, it'd lose so much if you did that.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 11, 2015, 07:06:04 AM
Yeah, ****ing about that was futile and annoying.

Getting young actors isn't going to be an easy task. Even if it were animated they'd still need the voices of kids. Adults sounding like kids wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: SuperBlue on September 11, 2015, 09:34:59 AM
A lot of people saying they want Katherine Applegate and Michael Grant involved. You know who I want involved? People who know how to make good movies.

I think that one goes without saying, which is why nobody's said it yet lol

I know that having the authors involved doesnt automatically mean it'll be good but it's sure as hell make me a lot more confident that will. Something about not only having the creator's blessing but their assistance is just...reassuring. Not like the Last Airbender, where the creator's wanted nothing to do with that film from the very beginning.

Getting young actors isn't going to be an easy task. Even if it were animated they'd still need the voices of kids. Adults sounding like kids wouldn't work.

I can give you many examples where adults voicing teenagers worked.  It's  hell of a lot easier than going the power ranger route and trying to make adults look like teenagers XD
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: tigz on September 11, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Personally, I'd want the first movie to at least cover the important stuff from the first five books. I think a good ending would be battle while escaping from the yeerkship like from book 5

personally i think that would be far too much to squeeze into one movie. I'm in agreement with the earlier post of a combo of books 1 and 2 with the events of book 2 happening somewhere in the middle and ending with the raid on the pool. maybe have Marco see his mother in the pool so as to have him personally invested.
Then in my own little perfect imaginary would there would be a mini series leading up to the David books which would themselves be covered in a second movie. then there would be a second mini series taking events up until near the end, and books 50-54 could be then be shown in a 3rd and final movie.
and yeah i'm pretty much stealing the agents of shield idea (but bettering it). =)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: SuperBlue on September 11, 2015, 02:41:37 PM
They'd need a whole movie to cover the David.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Terenia on September 11, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
KA and MG are supposed to make a statement soon. That makes it sound semi-legit.

And yeah, Blue, I agree. The David stuff is deep enough to stand alone. I honestly have no idea how they'd successfully compile the series into one movie. Even three to four would be difficult. I think we're going to have to be okay with a LOT of artistic liberties and changes if it happens, with the hope that it remains true to the underlying message of the story.

I would love for them to be able to get in the fact that the Yeerks aren't all evil. They didn't all want to blindly follow the Empire. I think that's important because even if Aftran herself didn't amount to much, the very existence of resisting Yeerks adds a depth to them as invaders. They're no longer solely "evil parasites". They become people in their own right, which makes the entire thing so much more morally ambiguous.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: matthew on September 11, 2015, 04:13:21 PM
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KA and MG are supposed to make a statement soon. That makes it sound semi-legit.
Where did you see that?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Azguard on September 11, 2015, 04:31:36 PM
uh.... what if it's some horrible amalgamation like they did with the goosebump movie?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: SuperBlue on September 11, 2015, 04:40:17 PM
I would cry....and then I'd give up on every form of adaptation ever. If they make Animorphs into a family comedy, starring Jack Black, that'll just be it for me and all things Schoolastic :|
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 11, 2015, 06:51:05 PM
Well, thanks for the nightmares, Geki!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 11, 2015, 07:19:56 PM
uh.... what if it's some horrible amalgamation like they did with the goosebump movie?

I would cry....and then I'd give up on every form of adaptation ever. If they make Animorphs into a family comedy, starring Jack Black, that'll just be it for me and all things Schoolastic :|

I wasn't worried until just now... bollocks...

The news is trending on Facebook and Michael Grant has said he hopes to make a statement about it soon. No real hint as to what he and his wife know or if they are even involved at all yet.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: matthew on September 11, 2015, 07:39:53 PM
https://twitter.com/kaaauthor/status/642481094751744001
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 11, 2015, 08:13:00 PM
So KA says it's not true but MG says they're still trying to find out. Damn it, I just want to know if it's true or not! Certainly sounds like they've been kept in the dark if it is true though, which is not a good sign.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 11, 2015, 08:59:50 PM
If Applegate is good, thank goodness! The Tracking Board seemed shady, but I stupidly handwaved that.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 11, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
https://twitter.com/kaaauthor/status/642481094751744001 (https://twitter.com/kaaauthor/status/642481094751744001)
(http://dumbfunnydrunk.com/uploads/uhy.jpg)
 Just Sadness... and only bad memes can express my sadness
:(:(:(
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: wolfev on September 11, 2015, 10:25:08 PM
Wow, I disappear for 7 years and come back to my thread still active. How weird is that? Even though its probably a fake, despite the Tracking Board responding to Grant saying that they confirmed the story 100%, this can only lead to studio interest. People clearly want to see an Animorphs film, assuming its good. Remember, people wanted to see another movie about Airbending until they suddenly didn't. And with Jack Black about to put Sony into The Black with Goosebumps, I'd be willing to say the chance of an Animorphs movie happening just increased astronomically
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 12, 2015, 01:39:11 AM
Yeah, sounds like we should have been taking this with a giant grain of salt from the beginning.  I have a suspicion this is probably all fishing on the part of the news site, due to the Goosebumps thing.  Taking a legitimate Point A and speculating to a Point B.

I mean, Katherine would know, either way, whatever production they were trying to get off the ground.  If she says it's BS, it doesn't really matter if MyTrackingBoard is sticking to their story.

The Goosebumps thing piqued my interest though, I hadn't even heard about it until this thread.  Just went over to imdb to check it out, seems pretty abysmal by the team they've hired.  Though Scott Alexander did shock me a bit, he wrote Ed Wood and The Man On The Moon, seriously amazing movies.  But the director Rob Letterman's a hack stooge, Gulliver's Travels and Shark Tale?!  Good grief.  Gulliver explains the Jack Black involvement, they're probably friends and Black's supporting his efforts.

This is what worried me all along though, if it was real.  This is the type of team they hire for these things, you're not going to get some A-lister (or even no-namer with a huge impressive vision), they get the work-for-hire guys who don't really care, it's just their next gig and nothing more.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 12, 2015, 07:57:06 AM
Hmm. The Goosebumps movie looked promising from the trailer. A supernatural action-comedy isn't what I expected, but it could work. Judging by the creative team (and the total lack of Tim Burton), I have my doubts. Not going to see it in theaters, regardless.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 12, 2015, 08:06:20 AM
Goosebumps should definitely have an element of comedy, those books were always half-scary (kid's scary) and half-funny.

But it just looks so lowest-common-denominator, total disposable cookie-cutter stuff.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: wolfev on September 12, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
See I've heard otherwise. People and Black seem really excited about this movie. Probably because people loved those books, but were under no pretenses that they were great literature. I don't think its lowest common denominator. Its more like Speed Racer. Take a fondly remembered but cheesy cartoon and just go all out. Don't try to make it better than what it is, just make it fun! I think its interesting that The Writer of Ed Wood and Man on the Moon is the writer. What are those movies about but misguided creators that no one seemed to get and who are just crazy characters. And what is this movie about? Fictional R.L. Stein played by Jack Black whose monsters are real. As long as the movie is aware of how stupid it is and embraces it in a loving way I think it could be good.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 12, 2015, 01:27:07 PM
I like Jack Black, but he's been enthusiastic about plenty of **** he's done too.  That Gulliver's Travels flick is goddamn atrocious.  People promote stuff all the time either knowing it's crap, or having not even seen it in some cases (recent Fantastic Four flick).

And no, of course Goosebumps was fun & self-referential and goofy.  It's supposed to be, but that doesn't mean you can't put out a quality flick.  It can be fun, it should be fun, just...make it work.  That trailer looks barf-worthy.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 12, 2015, 08:06:39 PM
**** IT MAY NOT BE UNCONFIRMED https://twitter.com/MyTrackingBoard/status/642481489959976960 (https://twitter.com/MyTrackingBoard/status/642481489959976960)https://www.reddit.com/r/Animorphs/comments/3klx75/katherine_applegate_says_animorphs_movie_is_not/  (https://www.reddit.com/r/Animorphs/comments/3klx75/katherine_applegate_says_animorphs_movie_is_not/) https://twitter.com/MichaelGrantBks/status/642562862683021312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/MichaelGrantBks/status/642562862683021312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) https://twitter.com/MichaelGrantBks/status/642562862683021312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/MichaelGrantBks/status/642562862683021312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)C'mon let's not totally dismiss the idea of a movie yet
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 13, 2015, 07:59:22 AM
You posted this in the wrong area.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Terenia on September 13, 2015, 08:30:54 AM
Yeah, sounds like we should have been taking this with a giant grain of salt from the beginning.  I have a suspicion this is probably all fishing on the part of the news site, due to the Goosebumps thing.  Taking a legitimate Point A and speculating to a Point B.

I mean, Katherine would know, either way, whatever production they were trying to get off the ground.  If she says it's BS, it doesn't really matter if MyTrackingBoard is sticking to their story.

Not necessarily true. KA and MG don't own the rights to Animorphs. Scholastic does. My understanding is that they can do whatever they want with it and aren't obligated to tell KA anything.

That said, it seems as though we need to just sit and wait and see how this plays out -- without being too disappointed if it was a false lead. It was still totally awesome to see something like Animorphs trending on Facebook. :)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 13, 2015, 09:56:56 AM
I just don't understand why they wouldn't tell KA and Michael.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Terenia on September 13, 2015, 10:13:04 AM
No clue. It's happened to other creatives who don't own the rights to their work. I don't necessarily know that Scholastic would do that to them, I'm just saying it's possible. Scholastic is a big company, and if they stand to potentially profit, telling the authors could be an afterthought. *shrugs* I hope not. I'd rather there not be a movie and Scholastic play nice with the authors.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: RYTX on September 13, 2015, 10:34:14 AM



Not necessarily true. KA and MG don't own the rights to Animorphs. Scholastic does. My understanding is that they can do whatever they want with it and aren't obligated to tell KA anything.

That said, it seems as though we need to just sit and wait and see how this plays out -- without being too disappointed if it was a false lead. It was still totally awesome to see something like Animorphs trending on Facebook. :)

Disappointed? You mean ecstatic that it was a false lead, because the we know that the end result would suck-diddly-uck?
Okay, that's what I thought you meant
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 13, 2015, 11:53:57 AM
I'm quite glad that it was (probably) a false lead.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: wolfev on September 13, 2015, 03:12:50 PM
I just don't understand why they wouldn't tell KA and Michael.

Trust me this isn't uncommon. Look up what happened to The Wheel of Time recently
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 13, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
Whoa!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 13, 2015, 07:31:08 PM
I'm quite glad that it was (probably) a false lead.
I'm still gonna be hoping that what what the Tracking Board was right. Also, I'm glad that it would be Universal making the movie, rather than Sony. Sony still has those Animorphs domains though... :P
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 14, 2015, 02:44:02 AM
Not necessarily true. KA and MG don't own the rights to Animorphs. Scholastic does.

That they do.  Which is why K.A. checked with her people at Scholastic before commenting on it.

They were always work-for-hire, yeah, which just goes more to the point: Scholastic has nothing to worry about in terms of creator's rights, they can kick the authors to the curb and go it alone if they want to.  They probably wouldn't cut them out entirely, but if they want to, no problem.  So it's not like they're walking around on eggshells tippy-toe-ing around whether Katherine & Michael know what they're working on or not.  The authors are probably entitled to a royalty check and a "story by" credit and that's about it, if the company wants to be dickish about it all.

If they had something in the pipeline, they'd just go "Yep!  Tentative 2017/2018 release date" or whatever.  Seems like they pretty much flat out said "nothing's on the cards".  Doesn't mean Universal hasn't been scouting the license and stuff, we've known a couple of studios were doing that for about a year or two though.  It's only like 10-15% of licensed movies that ever get past that stage, scouting for new IPs alone isn't all that significant.  I think a while back Grant said people were looking at Gone, too, that seems to have fizzled out.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 14, 2015, 06:33:46 AM
I think a while back Grant said people were looking at Gone, too, that seems to have fizzled out.
I thought that was about a TV series, but you're right.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Ash on September 16, 2015, 05:08:49 PM
On Michael Grant's Facebook:

"OK, here's the word on an ANIMORPHS movie.  The initial report had some accurate elements, but sources at both Scholastic and Universal have assured our lawyer that there is no deal - no deal - for an ANIMORPHS movie.  Frankly, we are relieved.  I'm not going into why we're relieved, let's just say we don't want a replay of the ANIMORPHS TV series."
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 16, 2015, 05:24:37 PM
He and Applegate aren't the only ones who are relieved.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on September 16, 2015, 08:11:12 PM
On Michael Grant's Facebook:

"OK, here's the word on an ANIMORPHS movie.  The initial report had some accurate elements, but sources at both Scholastic and Universal have assured our lawyer that there is no deal - no deal - for an ANIMORPHS movie.  Frankly, we are relieved.  I'm not going into why we're relieved, let's just say we don't want a replay of the ANIMORPHS TV series."

If we don't have a movie or a TV show, and Applegate doesn't write any more books, how do we fire up the Animorphs series?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 16, 2015, 08:39:43 PM
I don't think it will be fired back up. I don't know about you, but I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 16, 2015, 09:21:20 PM
He and Applegate aren't the only ones who are relieved.
You don't want any new material?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 17, 2015, 02:04:26 AM
Guys, its publishing run finished almost 15 years ago, and the attempted re-release apparently didn't stick - the new audience they were trying to introduce it to didn't really give a ****.

You say "how do we fire it up" like that's somehow necessary.  A movie might happen down the road sometime, but it very probably won't, and there isn't really much of a reason for that except for, yep, people don't seem to want it.

And that's cool too.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 17, 2015, 05:45:22 AM
On Michael Grant's Facebook:

"OK, here's the word on an ANIMORPHS movie.  The initial report had some accurate elements, but sources at both Scholastic and Universal have assured our lawyer that there is no deal - no deal - for an ANIMORPHS movie.  Frankly, we are relieved.  I'm not going into why we're relieved, let's just say we don't want a replay of the ANIMORPHS TV series."

Disappointing, but also a relief as Michael Grant said. Nobody wants another tragedy like the TV show...
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: RYTX on September 17, 2015, 06:33:38 AM
He and Applegate aren't the only ones who are relieved.
You don't want any new material?

The problem is new material may not be good material. It might be new and healthy to the story, but most likely the only innovations would be the platform (film opposed to literature). Changes to content would only challenge the book canon-because they probably won't expand the universe- and while that might not be a bad thing, based on every other franchise all it would do is give fans of the different platforms something to argue about without expanding or honoring the story the being presented by either
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 17, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
He and Applegate aren't the only ones who are relieved.
You don't want any new material?
A movie just wouldn't work well. It could be a good movie, but a horrible adaptation. Read and watch "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" to see what I'm talking about.
It'd be cool to get new material, but not if that material is crap.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: SuperBlue on September 17, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
to quote somebody on a different forum

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I think Michael Grant bringing up the TV show was a bit unnecessary. That was a totally different time. I mean hell, Nick probably could actually do better with the show now if they cared(not that I'd want them to try again) compared to what they did then. Special effects are in a different category, CG has become so common now even in TV. Let alone a movie given how CG heavy movies can be nowadays. I mean yeah, even a trilogy would have a hard time and there'd be so much lost compared to the books but it'd be totally doable. And they could even make a solid single movie off the series. But oh well, again no surprise it's not something likely to happen.

Granted, even today, that kind of CGI would still be pushing it for a TV show. But I definitely still think a movie could have worked.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 17, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
I think that it'd be hard even for a movie.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: SuperBlue on September 17, 2015, 07:19:55 PM
It would have been even harder since a movie can't cover as much as a TV show would. But they have something a television studio doesn't. A large enough budget to at least try. We'd need a Game of Thrones or True Blood budget for an Ani TV show to work.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 18, 2015, 02:26:26 AM
Yeah, it's more structure and content than special effects.

I still don't think CG's at a place where it can convincingly pull off photorealistic living animals, Avatar's a stunning looking movie (and nothing's come even approaching that close since that came out in, what, 2009?  Jim's planned sequels should look pretty effin' amazing), but even that's fictional creatures.  Real animals are tougher, as he have a reference point and we know what they should look like.  Uncanny valley problem.

But moreso than that it's just like...you have to sacrifice something, whether it's a show or a movie.  The movie comes with the problem of how you condense a plot taking part in smaller little "event chunks" over 53+ books, some of that's filler but still a whole lot of it's necessary to convey the story.  And conversely, with a TV show you're sacrificing budget/visuals, putting a cap on what's possible - also the problem of if it's a network show it'll be majorly neutered, and if it's cable you're shrinking your own potential audience.

Even if you can somehow convince the suits to be lenient with the budget and let you go nuts with it, the narrative trouble still trumps that issue big-time.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 18, 2015, 06:44:53 AM
Animated web series backed by a big company?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on September 18, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
I kinda don't want it to be animated :P I feel the tone wouldn't be right (Can you think of any serious cartoons...?)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 19, 2015, 03:54:16 AM
The 90s Batman animated series is something Katherine actually referenced personally, back in the day, regarding a possible way to go about things.

It'd still have the big censorship-clamps shackled to it though, if it were on TV like that.

Spawn on HBO back in the day would be another example, same vibe but getting away with more given the cable thing.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 19, 2015, 05:49:07 AM
CGI is the last thing I'd worry about if they made an Animorphs movie (or another TV show) these days. Sure they were bad in the 90s show, but special effects can be done well on a TV show budget now. And even if they were bad, I wouldn't care much as long as the acting and writing was good.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: tigz on September 19, 2015, 03:52:37 PM
slightly diverting topic but I remember watching an episode of "Bitten" and quite liked the "morphing" effects in that though obv the wolves still look CG but when I saw it did remind me of how i hoped the animorphing would have looked like. just mentioning since we talking CG =)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 19, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
Buffy had pretty bad werewolf morphing effects (as of season 4) but they're loads better than Animorphs.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 20, 2015, 03:27:58 AM
Buffy was made on-the-cheap, even by 1996 standards.  It didn't matter, it had that campy B-horror-movie tone and the cheesy effects played into all of that, it works.

Phoenix, we're not there yet in terms of decently-close-to-photorealism, certainly not on TV.  The dragons and such look good on GoT because they're barely even there, used sporadically, and our brains accept it more because we've never seen a dragon.

Animorphs, you have real-life animals front-and-center for extended periods of time.  Even taking the time and effort that Cameron did with Avatar (which no other director does, the guy's obsessed with this stuff), you apply that tech to real existing life and it's not going to look as impressive as the Pandora beasts.

TV's another thing entirely, CG's improved a bunch and is way cheaper than it used to be, but you can't have extended, time-consuming sequences with full CG creatures and have it look good.  Even movies generally don't have the resources for that stuff.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 20, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
Just to clarify, I wasn't bashing on Buffy for its sometimes-mediocre effects. I was saying that it was still able to exceed Animorphs-level morphing, not to mention writing.
 
ALL HAIL JOSS WHEDON! (Hail!)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on September 20, 2015, 05:01:05 PM
Just to clarify, I wasn't bashing on Buffy for its sometimes-mediocre effects. I was saying that it was still able to exceed Animorphs-level morphing, not to mention writing.
 
ALL HAIL JOSS WHEDON! (Hail!)

Okay, lets recruit Joss to do the Animorphs movie!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 20, 2015, 05:21:24 PM
If a movie had to be made, I'd want him to do it.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 21, 2015, 02:55:21 AM
Ehh.  I love the guy, but...
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 21, 2015, 06:35:20 AM
Think Spielberg could do a better job? He's great with kids.
Or maybe directed by Spielberg and written by Whedon?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 21, 2015, 10:21:40 AM
80s Spielberg would have nailed it, yeah, but these days he's a little hit-and-miss.  It'd definitely have to be one of his more intense flicks, not all Munich or anything, but you'd probably want to stay Jurassic Park and above I'd think, in terms of all that.

Honestly I think the best bet, if this were actually happening, would be a relative unknown.  Someone with a vision, someone with one or two critically-acclaimed movies under their belt, having secured final-cut with the studio, but still without the baggage of some big-name director.  Sort of like Rian Johnson with Looper, getting the Star Wars VIII gig, or I suppose Gareth Edwards getting Godzilla from his little indie Monsters.

As for Whedon, he generally only directs stuff that he writes, and I don't think he'd be the type that would want to adapt something like Animorphs.  Much as I'm a fan, he's just not really right for it anyway, all of his stuff has this sort of whimsical idealistic/optimistic-in-the-face-of-all-odds quality to it, gritty & paranoid/cynical ain't really his thing. 

EDIT:  Come to think of it, Katherine "The Hurt Locker/Zero Dark Thirty" Bigelow might even be a rad way to go.  She's pretty in-your-face and visceral, but with a sort of playful snarky sense of humor to things too.  She'd certainly handle the war-movie prerequisite no problem.  Has some experience with crazy high-concept sci-fi, Strange Days is an amazing flick. 
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 21, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
I haven't heard of many bad Spielberg films, but the ones I have heard of are (mostly) newer ones.

Yeah, guess Whedon might not be the best fit.

Never seen any Bigelow films. When I'm older I might, but it sounds like the films she's made might not be considered "appropriate" by my parents. I think my dad owns Zero Dark Thirty and The Hurt Locker, though.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on September 21, 2015, 06:07:18 PM
Yeah, both of Bigelow's recent films are pretty R.  If you're young and have parental supervision, best to wait.

Both are great, but yeah...they're war movies, for sure.  She used to be married to James Cameron though, they collaborated a bit in the 90s.

As for Spielberg, he's back on form lately, but he did go through a bit of a crappy period a while back.  But yeah, everything from Jaws through to Schindler's List & JP are classic.  Close Encounters is tha shiznit, as the cool kids say.  Or don't.

Another random way-out-there suggestion, Joe Dante who did Gremlins, The 'Burbs and Small Soldiers might be a decent fit.  Has that middle-America suburbia thing down, and has a sort of intensity about him but still in that still-semi-appropriate-for-all way.  Snarky as hell, too, would totally get the humor right.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on September 21, 2015, 06:39:58 PM
Hmm...
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on October 01, 2015, 01:20:42 AM
People are still writing articles about the supposed movie. While KA/Grant haven't said anything other than their big "**** Noooo", I'm gonna keep holding out for supposed move

Also, I gonna keep posting this because (http://www.mtv.com/news/2281900/animorphs-fancast/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/2281900/animorphs-fancast/)) because I  still can't believe I just read an article written by MTV. About animorphs. 15 years after the finale. Where they unabashedly wrote out Ax's full name.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on October 01, 2015, 03:09:10 AM
It's fishing, man.  There's a slight uptick in buzz about Animorphs becauseof the false article, not because there's a chance K.A./Scholastic are wrong and it's actually going ahead.

People saw the article, got their hopes up, and started talking about it.  Pretty simple.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Tim Bruening on October 01, 2015, 07:06:49 AM
It's fishing, man.  There's a slight uptick in buzz about Animorphs becauseof the false article, not because there's a chance K.A./Scholastic are wrong and it's actually going ahead.

People saw the article, got their hopes up, and started talking about it.  Pretty simple.

Next step: Start a campaign to crowd-raise money to fund the movie!  That would demonstrate that here's enough interest to justify a movie!

I bet that one of the purposes of the fake article was a trial balloon to see if there was enough public interest in an Animorphs movie to justify making one!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on October 02, 2015, 03:12:46 AM
If you think you can raise $100-150mil+ through crowd-funding of all things, go for it I guess.  Best of luck to you, oh optimist.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: guitarhero01234 on October 02, 2015, 03:16:03 AM
I bet that one of the purposes of the fake article was a trial balloon to see if there was enough public interest in an Animorphs movie to justify making one!

. . . Or the far more likely explanation that it was done to drive traffic to the website that posted the article and generate more ad revenue.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on October 02, 2015, 03:46:40 AM
That's-a-bingo.  ^
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: JackP on January 03, 2016, 07:43:13 AM
The animal effects in Golden Compass were quite good. Not photo-realistic maybe, but good enough to believe you're looking at a polar bear, or a demented Golden Monkey :D
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 03, 2016, 08:58:37 AM
I kinda don't want it to be animated :P I feel the tone wouldn't be right (Can you think of any serious cartoons...?)
If anime counts, then there are tons. If it doesn't... I know of this one really bloody animated batman trilogy. Online, it would bypass the animation age ghetto and cut costs by a decent amount of money. A web series would only make things better!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on January 03, 2016, 09:12:39 PM
I kinda don't want it to be animated :P I feel the tone wouldn't be right (Can you think of any serious cartoons...?)
If anime counts, then there are tons. If it doesn't... I know of this one really bloody animated batman trilogy. Online, it would bypass the animation age ghetto and cut costs by a decent amount of money. A web series would only make things better!
I no want dat tho.
I just want hot actors, a good script, a good director, and nice production. (Okay, maybe I'm asking for a bit much but DO IT HOLLYWOOD I BEG OF YOU)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 03, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Hot actors or good actors? Which is more important? And if they're animated, they can still be hot.
[spoiler=*coughcough*]hentai[/spoiler]
Good script can be part of animation!
Good director can also be!

Why don't you want animation? I understand that it would be weird, but there would be no limitations!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on January 03, 2016, 10:50:32 PM
The 1992 Batman animated series.  That is all.

That's something Katherine actually personally referenced back in the day, for how she'd want an adaptation done.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 03, 2016, 10:57:46 PM
I'm asking Dpsb.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on January 03, 2016, 11:29:49 PM
I was addressing him too.  :P
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on January 03, 2016, 11:32:49 PM
Hot actors or good actors? Which is more important? And if they're animated, they can still be hot.
Both. There are plenty actors who cover both.
hentai
That's ****ing gross. Animorphs the porno sounds like something you would find on FurFiction
That's something Katherine actually personally referenced back in the day, for how she'd want an adaptation done.
I mean as long as I get an adaptation, I'll be happy. I'd prefer Live-action, but if cartoon is the only thing we'll get, I'll be okay
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on January 03, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
I really, really hate all this "hot" stuff, too.  That's even one of the reasons I don't want a live-action adaptation, it'll undoubtedly be cast with whoever's ultra-popular among the tween demo at the time, and kill all of that "everyday kids" vibe.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on January 04, 2016, 12:02:51 AM
Why don't you want animation? I understand that it would be weird, but there would be no limitations!
It's ultimately a choice in preference. I'd prefer to see it in some re-try of live action mainly because I'd think that'd look cooler. Minority Opinion I guess. (I mean what would look cooler: a real bear charging on the big screen or a Cartoon Network Adventure Time style bear charging on a computer screen?)
I really, really hate all this "hot" stuff, too.  That's even one of the reasons I don't want a live-action adaptation, it'll undoubtedly be cast with whoever's ultra-popular among the tween demo at the time, and kill all of that "everyday kids" vibe.
again preferences
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: JackP on January 04, 2016, 09:06:06 AM
If you think you can raise $100-150mil+ through crowd-funding of all things, go for it I guess.  Best of luck to you, oh optimist.
If someone did raise enough money to make an indie movie, would they need permission from Schoolastic/KA, if they just popped it online for free?
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 04, 2016, 10:51:31 AM
Nonono dpsb, I was joking about the hentai thing.
I'm not saying CN style! Death to the Animation Age Ghetto! Your point, though... I'll give you that one.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on January 19, 2016, 04:48:44 AM
Hate to bump this thread for risk of giving the impression that there's news, which there's not, it's not happening, but over on a major movie-site forum someone posted this manip:



(http://img14.deviantart.net/9c53/i/2015/265/4/e/animorphs_movie_poster_by_geektruth64-d9ahy2h.jpg)



Pretty much illustrates a huge part of why this shouldn't happen.  You need names to sell it, and names by nature aren't what we need for this.  And all of those actors, are, you know, oh, in excess of a decade too old.  Obviously Lawrence wouldn't be caught dead doing something like this at this stage in her career, but this is what you'd get with a movie: 25 year old Animorphs set in the present day with smartphones and such, with CG animals and a soft-PG13 rating.  Hunger Games-lite.

Personally, I'd prefer nothing.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 19, 2016, 09:53:51 PM
1. Lawrence as Rachel? Who came up with this?!
2. Tobias doesn't look like Tobias. At all.
2. LOOK AT THAT CUBE DO NOT WANT

To be honest, though, I wouldn't be too bothered if they tried to get a PG-13. Or perhaps it could go by unrated?
... or it could be online. Wink wink.
And I'd be ok with CG animals if they weren't the epitome of half-assedness. If they look OKAY, I'd be okay.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on January 19, 2016, 10:49:34 PM
1. Lawrence as Rachel?
Actually, I'd watch that movie
Who came up with this?!
I think it's the Tobias_Marco  from AFF
... or it could be online. Wink wink.
Online animation looks like ****. Like poorly done flash animation. Just Sayin
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on January 20, 2016, 06:49:18 AM
Lawrence is a hell of an actor.  But, you know, even when she started shooting the first Hunger Games she'd have been too old.

It's a tricky thing - you want to get good actors, but good actors who're say 13-15 are unbelievably rare.  Just because it worked out with Potter doesn't mean that happens often.  Studios are going to skew older by nature.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 20, 2016, 08:03:54 AM
Kay, Dylan. I'll give you that one. To be more specific, it looks like a guy who just ate a lot of Indian food shat all over a drawing tablet, smeared it around using only his nose, and then animated it using only his balls.

In all seriousness, it wouldn't look all that great if it were animated, but I really do think the good would outweigh the bad.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on January 20, 2016, 08:19:09 AM
Kay, Dylan. I'll give you that one. To be more specific, it looks like a guy who just ate a lot of Indian food shat all over a drawing tablet, smeared it around using only his nose, and then animated it using only his balls.
I think that's how they make those weird MS paint animations on Youtube.
In all seriousness, it wouldn't look all that great if it were animated, but I really do think the good would outweigh the bad.
Maybe as a TV quality Hand Drawn animated show
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 20, 2016, 04:46:12 PM
Is hand drawn animation still a thing?

What do you think about 3D animation? I don't really like that idea.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on January 20, 2016, 05:29:44 PM
What do you think about 3D animation?
EW ICKYICKYICKY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is hand drawn animation still a thing?
I think so. As long as Animorphs doesn't look like Total Drama Island, I'll be fine.


I saw this on Hirac Delest
(http://www.fybertech.com/4thread/co_44905713/1357877882189.jpg)
I like this fanart. Looks like an okay cartoon  (Rachel's nose looks off though)


I also like this cartoon-ish fanart
(http://orig06.deviantart.net/b9d8/f/2010/068/2/2/the_animorphs_by_expression.jpg)
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 20, 2016, 07:01:30 PM
That's okay. I'd prefer less exaggerated character designs, but this is on the right track.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on January 20, 2016, 10:38:40 PM
That top one's always been one of my favorite fan-art pieces from way back in the day.  That'd be a great 'style' for a traditional animated thing.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on January 21, 2016, 08:17:56 AM
The first one is rather good!
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Snakie on February 02, 2016, 08:43:56 PM
The length of arc you'd need to have to adequetely tell an Animorphs story is far too long for a film to do it justice.

A TV Series was always the more viable option, but, well, we've been down that road.  :(
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on February 03, 2016, 08:50:52 PM
How do you think you'd pull off all the effects and "scope" of the final arc in the books on TV though?  Something like Game Of Thrones is probably the high bar visually, for what's been done on TV so far, and a lot of that's still pretty modest.

As for something as basic as conveying the animals themselves, it's going to be CG due to all the action stuff they're involved in, can't get that much movement out of animatronics.  If you look at CG these days for real living animals in films, it's still totally uncanny valley.  That's with big $150mil+ tentpole movies, TV's obviously a great step behind.  We're just not there yet.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on February 04, 2016, 08:14:31 AM
I just got a disturbing mental image of a Roger Rabbit-style Animorphs series. Ugh.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: NothingFromSomething on February 04, 2016, 08:16:27 AM
Now just what in the hell is wrong with Who Framed Roger Rabbit?  :P

Shame on you, shame.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: YeerkSalad on February 04, 2016, 04:50:25 PM
On its own, Who Framed Roger Rabbit is good. It would suck, though, if Animorphs had its style.
Title: Re: Animorphs Film
Post by: Dylan on February 15, 2016, 10:47:44 AM
Now just what in the hell is wrong with Who Framed Roger Rabbit?  :P

Shame on you, shame.
That movie is good, buuuuuuuuuuuut if it's loony tunes-ish style would definitely not work for Animorphs. It's too wacky.

Also, necroing this thread got me all like:
(https://themidnightalliance.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/disappointment.gif)