Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: wotw2112 on August 31, 2008, 04:18:37 PM
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Jake, Marco, Cassie, Rachel, Tobias, Ax, and YOU!
If it had been you instead of David do you think you would have done any better?
Consider:
Your life was ruined
Your house was destroyed
Your entire family was under Yeerk control
You were now fighting an intergalactic war and commiting all kinds of atrocities
You are an outsider in the only group you can ever be a part of again
And it was (arguably) YOUR own fault
Could you handle it?
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I'd be depressed but I'd accept my fate and join the Animorphs to get my parents' freedom back while enjoying the power to morph in the meantime.
David was so dumb and selfish.
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I'd be scared, having to rely on the help of strangers to get my parents back and try to help the world. I don't know if I would join them, but I wouldn't betray them if I could help it.
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I certainly wouldn't take the road David did. That's just not in my personality to betray others.
Initially I know I'd be crushed and hard to deal with for a few days. Trying to accept the fact that I've been tossed into a fight I had originally known nothing about and suddenly I've got to learn everything in a short time if I want to live. It would be hard not having the proper time to grieve for my former life.
Like to believe I'd adapt eventually. Maybe not entirely, but enough to get by. I know after a bit I'd want to be accepted by the group. After all, they'd be the only friends I had.
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i think i would join them. although i would probably disappear for a few days just to give myself to accept everything
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I don't think anyone can imagine how they'd truly react, but I'll give it a try.
I know I'd be devastated by the loss of my family, not to mention my entire life as I knew it. I'd probably blame myself even if it wasn't my fault. I'd be scared of the Yeerks obviously, but I'd like to think that I;d be able to live on and help defeat them. My family might be slaves of the Yeerks, but as long as they lived I would have hope of saving them (much like Jake lived in hope of saving Tom) and would draw strength from that.
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Your life was ruined
Your house was destroyed
Your entire family was under Yeerk control
You were now fighting an intergalactic war and commiting all kinds of atrocities
You are an outsider in the only group you can ever be a part of again
And it was (arguably) YOUR own fault
Could you handle it?
I don't have much of a life anyway
I change houses so much (cuz of moving), I wouldn't really miss my house.
my family under yeerk control, I wouldn't do anything reckless to try and save them. I'd just wait until the right time.
wouldn't really react that much until the killing really started. once that happened, I'd probably want to quit being an animorph.
I was always kind of a loner anyway
I try to not think of any guilt I have anyway
I don't know. I wouldn't try to break into the hotel or kill the seagull, like David did, but selling out to the yeerks because I want to live, that's a definite possibility.
Final result, I'd be cool with them until we went into a real battle. If we easily win, I'd quit because of the horror I saw (blood and death and stuff like that). If we're cornered, I'd probably give myself up like David did. So I'd only last until my first real battle.
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I'd be the complete opposite to David.. I'd be dedicated to fighting the Yeerks so I could try to save my family and all that jazz.
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So you say, when your life isn't actually on the line.
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I would probably be a bad Animorph, especially when everyone else throws me straight into the whole thing. I would probably abuse my morphing powers a bit and I would be the first one to run away from a battle.
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I'm sure that I would be depressed for a long time. I wouldn't want to be around people I didn't really know that well so I would push them away for a few days. After grieving for a while I'd probably realize they were helping me and join them.
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I'd like to think I would be a good Animorph. . . . Though my overly-serious nature could weird out the others. I also have a habit of internalizing all my emotions, an anger problem, and a stubborn personality; so those may be a problem.
I know that I would hate myself when I was forced to kill. But, as I mentioned before, I'd internalize that feeling and not tell anyone.
In my opinion, David eventually became what he was -- a rat.
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So you say, when your life isn't actually on the line.
As I already said, you can't really imagine what you'd do in that situation, but this is just a friendly discussion.
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I really don't know what would have happened. I am thoroughly convinced that in any of the Animorphs positions, I would have lost my mind. But right now, we're talking about being in David's position.
I think I'd be too afraid, at first, to do anything but listen to the Animorphs and do what they said. Over time, the killing and the war would drive me to do something I know I would regret later on (like intentionally becoming a nothlit, or trying to take matters into my own hands by going on a crazy rescue mission for my parents.)
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-I'm with morfort on the whole "I didn't have much of a life to begin with" thing. Well, I guess I would still be depressed to some degree, but at the same time I've always been an optimist/hard to depress so maybe a total collapse of a part of my life philosophy? That would probably send me spiralling into some sort of nihilistic mood. Add that with my already existing Machiavellian tendencies...
-If my life was ruined and my parent's captured I'd probably have more important things to worry about than my house being destroyed. Still, I guess I'd miss everything that I had. But still, I would hopefully be more concerned about everything else that was going on than my house.
-Well, theres one advantage of my mom living in another state; it would be much harder for them to get them all at once. However, I'll admit that I'd work with the Animorphs to get them back and then "Bye-bye Animorphs. Have a nice life." Of course then there would probably be some big fight that leads me to having to work with them to save the world. Or guilt comes in or something else sends me back to fighting with them.
-I'm not going to answer that one because I cannot honestly think of how I'd react to fighting an intergalactic war. In my mind right now I'd probably just not try and moralize it past the "your the invaders and we are trying to get rid of you" thing, but once I was actually in there I'm sure something would change.
-If they are part of the only group I can ever be in again, well, I better hope I'm not an outsider for long. Though I would probably get into some arguments with them (hopefully they can understand I'd be a bit, well, testy).
...wonder if Tobias knows any nice branches I could live on? Being a nothlit would be my last resort.
Overall I don't think I'd go David's way, but I probably wouldn't be that effective of an Animorph so who knows what would happen.
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I don't know. I do know I would be completely freaked, but I don't think I would betray anyone. Its really hard to say, but I know I wouldn't betray them.
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Jake, Marco, Cassie, Rachel, Tobias, Ax, and YOU!
If it had been you instead of David do you think you would have done any better?
Consider:
Your life was ruined
Your house was destroyed
Your entire family was under Yeerk control
You were now fighting an intergalactic war and commiting all kinds of atrocities
You are an outsider in the only group you can ever be a part of again
And it was (arguably) YOUR own fault
Could you handle it?
Hmm... interesting question. Do you remember that one part in #21 where David runs off and breaks into a Hotel room so that he has a place to sleep for the night, other than in a smelly barn or in the woods? I think that would be a good representation of what I'd end up like if I was in his position. I likely wouldn't turn against the Animorphs themselves unless they ganged up on me or something, but on the most part, to be completely honest, I'd be really freaked.
I would most likely run away after being on an official mission and finding out exactly what kind of a war I had gotten myself mixed up in. I would try to live off on my own, to try find my own way to survive, and I would likely abuse my power to do that like how David did, but just not for greed. Once I had some perspective, and had some time to think and recover from what just happened in my life, I'd like to believe that I would go back and join the Animorphs, or at least be someone on reserve to help them out once and a while.
I think this was what basically broke David. Yes, he was a bad kid to begin with, but in my opinion, the Animorphs just ended up being as bad as the Yeerks when they forced him into the war. He pretty much got drafted as a soldier and was told to fight for a war that he didn't fully understand. From his perspective, he got ripped apart from both sides by what they both wanted, while he was left standing as some rag doll as his life was being tossed around. No wonder he lost it.
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Well, I figure I'd either fight for the long haul, or still for a short while before wussing out and running away. I wouldn't betray them, but if things out to hand to handle, I think i'd slip out and hid in the woods till the fight was done. Or until my shame ended, so never.
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i think i could accept it, i can generally accept when things are and aren't my fault and when people are or aren't trying to help me.
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I'm a lot more accepting of changes now, but not at the age I was reading the series.
I reckon I would be c-o-p-l-e-t-e-l-y overwhelmed and depressed by the feeling of helplessness, inspite the new morphing ability I would have. But I can safely say I would be more co-operative than the unfortunate David. Here's a group of people my age who are the only ones doing something... why the heck would I choose money and all to walk away from something that will catch up with me in the future.
Though sincerely DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD BE in battle. I would have most likely hidden behind the mind of a predator like a hyena to help me during that Resort Fake out. Otherwise, I may well have frozen stiff at the sight of those enemies.
Don't even mention a trip to the Yeerk pool.
I know I would not walk away without shock from the battles. In fact I think I would be traumatized to see mine, my friends' and even the aliens' get mauled and shredded and messy in the sheer battles.
Don't really know what I would turn into. I think I would be a mix of Rachel, who loses her self in becoming an effective warrior in order to protect her friends, and Cassie, who cherishes life and is seriously confused about the contradictions she comes across. And I would probably have ethical arguments with Tobias.
But I would certainly NOT think of myself after seeing my family taken, house destroyed and the Yeerk's plans for humanity's future. I would know I was playing in a whole new league and would lift my game to join the Animorphs' efforts.
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Consider:
Your life was ruined
Your house was destroyed
Your entire family was under Yeerk control
You were now fighting an intergalactic war and commiting all kinds of atrocities
You are an outsider in the only group you can ever be a part of again
Could you handle it?
1. I'd be pissed, depressed, angry at the first people I'd think are responsable(the animorphs, but I'd get over it since they're oging out of their way to take care of me now tht my life is ruined. although I think I'd rather stay with Tobias or ax rather than inside of Cassie's smelly barn)
2. Not too worried bout my house when my family is in danger but I would try and save my laptop and memory cards.
3. pretty much the same answer as the 1st
4. I'd be scared to death of everything tht moved. I wouldnt be too good in battle either since I'd freak out the minute I killed sumthing or sumthing almost killed me(unless I let the animal have partial control, than I'd probably be fine) IDK im just way too jumpy and easily scared to be an Animorph
5. I don't think I'd be an outsider. My personality is a cross between Marco and cassie's so I think I'd be able to get along fairly well with everyone(well maybe not Rachel as much as everyone else. She'd probably scare me a little but I'd get used to her after a while)
There's no way I'd walk the same path as david. Im very Loyal and I'd follow every last one of Jake's orders since he's more experienced than I am. although I can garuntee u tht I would abuse my powers to get what I want. I'd probably give in to the Yeerks if my life depeneded on it. but unlike David, I'd feel remorse for it and probably only do it if they swore not to infest me so I could betray them later and go back to the Animorphs(and who r they not to except me back? I'd have tons of information they'd need.) There's no way I'd truly betray the Animorphs though I might do a lot of chickening out and abusing my powers but I'll always stay loyal to them until the war's over.
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Jake, Marco, Cassie, Rachel, Tobias, Ax, and YOU!
If it had been you instead of David do you think you would have done any better?
Consider:
Your life was ruined
Your house was destroyed
Your entire family was under Yeerk control
You were now fighting an intergalactic war and commiting all kinds of atrocities
You are an outsider in the only group you can ever be a part of again
And it was (arguably) YOUR own fault
Could you handle it?
I just finished the series and I'm new here (hi.)
Could I handle it? Maybe but probably not. Not to be Debbie Downer or anything, but I've had my life upturned a couple of times, and I lost my mom when I was 15. I'm not an overly sentimental person, but that kind of thing takes it's toll no matter what kind of person you are. Being simultaneously thrown into an intergalactic battle at the same time, and learning that pretty much no one can be trusted, is a big deal. Most people can't even contemplate anyone around them ever dying, much less their #1 support system, their parents. But to be cut off from everyone in the WHOLE WORLD, less five random kids and 1 alien...? I think pretty much everyone would cave to the pressure and lose it.
I'm not saying I would've gone off the rails like David did. David was a psychopath, a malicious killer and extremely self-serving. He calls himself "troubled" in the book where he reunites with Rachel; I think that is the understatement of the century. But would I be tempted to break into a hotel room for a night instead of staying in Cassie's barn? Yes, and I'd probably take a lot more. Food, clothes, books, anything to bring back a semblance of a "life." At least initially, until Cassie put me in my place.
Could I be part of the team? Assuming I learned to deal with my loss, I don't know. I'm way more paranoid than Marco, cynical to the extreme, and definitely not a risk taker. I wouldn't want to be under Jake's command, who I don't see so much as wise as incredibly lucky. I've thought most of his plans were reckless and insane (yes, I identify a lot with Marco.) Don't get me wrong, he has his moments of great leadership, but most of the time I think his plans suck and I would never agree to them. I'd probably end up more like the Chee, a spy, and I'd only volunteer for missions we could plan for. That would probably piss the group off, but too bad. I'm all for saving the planet, but I can't really help if I'm dead.
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Yea I'd most likely be like the chee too.
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i would take the morphing power, and help the animorphs until my parents were free, at which point i would probably ditch them and use my powers to rob banks and stuff
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I don't know, I think David was psycho to begin with.
I personally would have gotten the hell away from anyplace civilized. 1 ticket to Lost island, please!
Just because I'm a coward.
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I think, if I was chosen as the newest animorph, I would be awesome. Simply because I would run off into the woods and live like a crazy hermit, being afraid to get into relationships with people because they could have slugs in their brains. I would live off of rat carcasses, and saunder off to kill mooses with my newfound morphin abilities.
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Assuming you could get away from large groups of people to de-morph every 2 hours, fighting the yeerks would not be very hard. I never really understood why it was that difficult in the first place.
Hit and run tactics would be the best. Slip in Yeerk territories with small bombs that I'm sure Ax or the Chee could have made, set it, and get the hell out.
I probably would have suggested that the team go permenantly dark. Trying to go about their normal lives while fighting the invasion was a terrible idea. As far as how they will take care of themselves, I can only imagine how easy it would be to "inappropriately" use their abilities to gain free housing, food, and other amenities.
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Well a large portion of them were fighting to save their families, not to save the world, so running away and disappearing would be rather counterproductive.
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wouldn't that possibly kill human-controllers? which means killing humans? which they try not to do every single time...
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Hmm...I don't think I'd make a very good Animorph. I don't really have that sense of duty or responsibility.
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I woulda done terrible as a new member, its one thing to drafted, trained, and sent out with a purpose and something to come back to, its an entirely other thing to be flung into a gigantic war fighting with a weapon you've never used against an enemy that has the ultimate hostages. In addition to this you're around no one you know of old, who might easily get u killed or even betray you when things get tough. Like i said i would be terrible, how would it feel to be forced to take orders from someone you dont know, who might get you killed, all for some vague promises that if you succeed and hold on for a year that you might (probably never) get to see something normal? You would have to be a strange person in my opinion to cope okay with that. But as for me? i would flee as fast as the hounds of Hades away from everything that destroyed my life.
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i would have not done what David did but I'd be
a rather violent (more so than rachel) group member
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more violent? how so?
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Well...I kind of have a (really, really long) fanfiction written basically about this exact thing... but I would probably try to cope with it, I guess.
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I would have to say I would be on the vengeful side. Oh, what the heck I would do what ever it took to take them out. At the same time though I think my morphing power would keep me from losing it totaly. I might even lose track and become a nothlit. (not on purpose though)
Personaly I think David was off his rocker to begin with.
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What? Why did you think David was crazy to begin with? he just seemed kind of like a lone wolf to me.
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as marco mentions he has a cobra that is Illegal, he shoots at these birds (the animorphs) with a bee-bee gun, he names his cat megadeath (or something along those lines), and even though tobias was a lone wolf he never tried to kill off the others. the animorphs new he was a bit off from the start and were very aprehensive to let him join. He is a luney, a nut , cracked or however else you want to put it. You know how tragety pushes people over the edge sometimes he was leaning right over the edge.
What? Why did you think David was crazy to begin with? he just seemed kind of like a lone wolf to me.
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i would accept my fate. And NO way would I be such a jerk like David. That guy sux. >:(
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David does not "suck" his antics could have been dealt with alot quicker by dumping him off in the Hork-Bajir colony till he accepted his fate, then inviting him to be an Animorph. Steps and precaution are needed or else the person will inevitably break rules and become a "jerk".
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Freaked out, shocked and sad. Maybe deal with it for a few days, pick my animals and go into battle for the first time. Then if I find out I can't deal with kill other people then I'll run. I'll go to New York or Canada and become someone new. Living on the edge, with no one to be with and no one to understand it would be harsh.
Frankly, what david did would be what people would do if they didn't understand exactly how ruthless the world just became. He was human and he reacted the way any human would have in that situation. Had he been part of the founding group, it would have gone bad. After all, didn't somewhere it states that the original group has to be that way? That Ellimist stacked the deck by putting the people together? Each had their own part. I don't know what you could classify David as....'the person they could've become?'...
(enough of my ranting. *cough*)
Yeah, I would've either run and stayed in it thick and thin doing what I had to survive. I'd mostly run though.
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I would have tried to calculate a plan of attack. I would not hesitate to take a life if that person threatened me or my loved ones with lethal force. I would prolly use morphs to identify Visser 3's patterns and then found a good sniper perch. 1 shot, 1 kill.
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more violent? how so?
Not a fan of the keep the human controllers alive thing, steal dracon beams and other junk
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more violent? how so?
Not a fan of the keep the human controllers alive thing, steal dracon beams and other junk
Eliminating the human controllers will also leave no witnesses to give leads to Visser 3.
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hmmm good point
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well i don't think i'd like it, First i'd look for alternatives to fighting or selling out the good guys.
I really don't like fighting.
Maybe I could be the peace maker ;D
Doubt it'd be of much use, but its worth a try :)
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lol
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as marco mentions he has a cobra that is Illegal, he shoots at these birds (the animorphs) with a bee-bee gun, he names his cat megadeath (or something along those lines), and even though tobias was a lone wolf he never tried to kill off the others. the animorphs new he was a bit off from the start and were very aprehensive to let him join. He is a luney, a nut , cracked or however else you want to put it. You know how tragety pushes people over the edge sometimes he was leaning right over the edge.What? Why did you think David was crazy to begin with? he just seemed kind of like a lone wolf to me.
Exactly.
Marco saw it, this kid was just strange, and clearly had some violent tendencies ( I mean, really, Megadeath?!). I also probably would've voted for him to join, but I definetly would've been wary of him.
Also, only God knows what I would've done in his situation. To be ripped away from his entire life, that's pretty brutal. But I KNOW I would'nt have turned on the only 6 people I have left in the world right now. Maybe I would've refused the offer, and maybe I would've tried to run away a few times, but I wouldn't try to kill any of them. That was just stupid.
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I really wonder why david joined Visser 3. After all, it was the Visser who killed his parents ???. (Sorry about the 'David sux' comment) :-[
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Don't apologize, Aldrea. That's, in my opinion, a valid point.
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I'd probably try to stay away from the Animorphs, thinking they were real loony toons. Then, Id probably just try to forget about it and, um, idk, just try to live?
Maybe I'd end up going back though :P
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A lot of what I'd do though would depend on the type of firepower available. As well as available morphs, although for sure the part where David morphs Orca would be different.
Mr. Orca, meet Jaws!
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I'll probably cooperate but also trap myself as a raptor after i tried out a few morphs
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Hmmmm...Well, I'm very responsible when it comes to things like school work and chores. I'm a very loyal friend. In fact, one of my flaws--that I consider-- is that I'm too forgiving and willing to give people second, third and fourth chances. I tend to do what I'm told when an authority figure, or even someone with experience in the field, tells me to do something. I'm not a very arrogant person by nature.
But this is not school, or anything normal like that. This is WAR. This is something beyond normal war, this is intergalactic war. You think getting shot was bad? Getting torn to pieces, consumed in whole by some ravenous beast, and totally eliminated by a single shot from a dracon beam is ten times that. War--any type of war--changes people. A rather calm kid could turn into a vicious killer. There is nothing worse than a person with powers and nothing left to lose--DAVID!
I would like to think that I'd stick with the Animorphs. Like I said, I'm a very loyal person. If I knew that the Animorphs were trying to help me out, and was positive that they knew what they were doing I would go along with them--after all, they have the experience that I lack. I might disagree with Jake on occasion, and would most likely bond with Tobias, Ax and [maybe] Marco. Rachel is a girl, and I tend to be awkward around those, so we probably wouldn't talk. I think I would take up Cassie's offer on letting me stay in the barn, but I would probably **** and moan about it for a few weeks when I got really angry (I have a temper, too).
I'd be really upset about my parents. I think the Animorphs would have to give me some sort of pep talk just to get me to understand what was going on. Like, say Jake took me down to the Yeerk Pool and showed me what was happening to the people down there; I think that would be enough motivation to get me to cooperate. But I don't know how I would react to the battles. Yea, killing would be extremely off putting, but I think I would kid myself into believing that I could justify killing as trying to win a war. I'd mostly be worried about the Hork-Bajir controllers trying to kill me, and Visser Three, obviously. I'm pretty sure I'd run. Rachel would call me a coward. Maybe I would be an effective solider, but I doubt it. I dont think I'd betray them, but who knows?
If I got to the point where I didn't want to be in the war anymore, I'd probably just leave. But I wouldn't tell anyone about it. I would fly out of town--or city, or country, would be most preferavble) and probably trap myself in morph. But I wouldn't trap myself as an Animal. I would acquire another person (if I'd stuck around with the Animorphs long enough to learn about the Frolis Manouever I'd acquire DNA from four or five different people) and try to assimilate into another city.
If I did stay, I would try to acquire as many morphs as possible. I also think I'd abuse my powers, but I doubt I'd steal or do anything close to what David did (I guess that's the Catholic in me). The worst thing I would do would be personal morphing--probably aquiring morphs via the frolis manouever, if I knew about it.