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Title: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Darth Zakryn on February 16, 2011, 01:35:31 AM
Ok, so once every three days Visser Three feeds in the Yeerk pool. My question is: How do they contain Alloran during that time?! Alloran is morph-capable. I once remember reading about KA Applegate writing that "Alloran is kept under heavy guard" or something like that, but keeping him under guard wouldn't help, since he could morph that eight-headed fire monster or the Antarean Bogg and overpower the Hork-Bajir, and even if they threatened to kill him before he fully morphed, he wouldn't care as death is better than being a Controller.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Cloudbreaker on February 16, 2011, 02:00:26 AM
They probably knock him out.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Blaise Zebrataur on February 16, 2011, 02:08:35 AM
They probably knock him out.

This.

And I am sure they do keep him under heavy guard just long enough for Visser Three to feed and get back in the body before Alloran really has a chance to do anything.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: FATELUVR95 on February 16, 2011, 05:13:58 AM
Maybe Andalites have a certain weakness(like a pressure point) and V3 tells the Hork-Bajir Alloran's weak point.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: LisaCharly on February 16, 2011, 08:17:20 AM
My money's on sedation/anesthetic.

Actually, they probably use sedation on a lot of their more troublesome hosts. Can you imagine trying to keep cover as a successful businessman if every three days you go in with a broken nose because your host is being a spiteful pain in the neck down at the cages?
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Phoenix004 on February 16, 2011, 09:30:36 AM
Yeah I always assumed they sedated him. And Lisa brings up a good point, you're bound to have hosts rebel by smashing their fists (or heads) against their cage out of frustration.

Maybe they just stun them. We often forget that Dracon Beams do have a stun setting.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: NateSean on February 16, 2011, 09:44:45 AM
It does make you wonder about voluntary controllers like the Chapmans. These are people who not only bargained with the Yeerks, but who frequently fought to control their bodies when they didn't like what was happening. (IE, the threat of Melissa being infested)

If controllers like that weren't kept in the cages with the others, then they would either have to be under heavy guard or sedated to prevent self-harm.

Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Chad32 on February 16, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
Sedation. Bio Stasis. Some guard inflicting heavy pain on him to keep him from concentrating on a morph. We know he's not completely psychologically broken, so that's out.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: RYTX on February 16, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
I'm sure they  have a physical prevention on alloran, but I really don't think the other host being damaged is such a big deal:
1) Most people didn't go out of there way to hurt them selves and
2) Even if they did, I'm sure Yeerk-medicare can patch up a broken nose or smashed fisted-I recall an arm being attached somewhere when V3 was being "generous"

I mean lets face it, even if human involvement in fights was low, there was enough in there that without repair people would start to ask why every guy in the sharing had an eye patch, or looked like he'd been well, mauled by a tiger
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: LisaCharly on February 16, 2011, 11:01:42 AM
Possibly. Although we don't know how much time Yeerk medical takes. Most Controllers passing as human probably have places to be and people to see. We also don't know how much Yeerk medical was on Earth during the early stages of the invasion, prior to the construction of the Pool.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Myitt on February 16, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
Sedation, for sure.  Even Edriss sedated or at the very least restrained her hosts prior to the war, didn't she?
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: LisaCharly on February 16, 2011, 04:23:42 PM
Wasn't there a mention of her cuffing Lore Altman to a radiator?
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Darth Zakryn on February 16, 2011, 04:39:30 PM

Yeah, and she locked Eva to her portable Kandrona.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Blaise Zebrataur on February 17, 2011, 04:10:49 AM
Either way in the end,Alloran was allowed to go back and have freedom.

But yeah I am sure anyway they could hold Alloran just long enough for Visser Three to feed and back in was a good way.But I am pretty sure Visser Three cut off someones head if they damaged the body to much.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Terenia on February 17, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
Even if Alloran wasn't sedated (which he likely was), he would have been heavily restrained. It takes nearly two minutes to complete a morph, so if he is under heavy guard and begins morphing it wouldn't be too hard for them to stun him with a Dracon Beam before he becomes dangerous.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: NateSean on February 17, 2011, 09:19:50 AM
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Yeerk-medicare

Oh crap. I think I just realized what has everyone so nervous about Obama's health care reform...
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: .: Asmo on February 17, 2011, 09:55:38 AM
I seriously doubt Esplin wanted his host drugged for even a small amount of time.

Alloran was probably locked ball-and-chain style. Something for his tail. Something probably around his neck so Esplin could enter and exit his head easily.

Esplin probably had his own personal Yeerk Pool on his Blade Ship. It was also probably isolated in it's own room where he could have guards placed on the outside to look in. If Alloran would try to escape, Dracon Beams.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Chad32 on February 17, 2011, 11:17:20 AM
I have always assumed V3 had his own personal pool in a private room. As well as other high ranking Yeerks.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Darth Zakryn on February 19, 2011, 05:51:05 AM

Ahhh! A private pool! That's brilliant! Dammit, I wish I'd thought of it... a great assumption, Chad.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Dameg on February 19, 2011, 09:59:29 AM
lol Did you really think the Vissers and sub-vissers would go in the same pool than the other Yeerks??!! The Vissers probably have their own private pool (1 pool each), and the sub-vissers a pool for them (1 pool for all the sub-vissers in each part of the universe). Something like that.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Chad32 on February 19, 2011, 10:41:36 AM
I really don't see Visser 3 standing in line at the docks come feeding time.
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Dameg on February 19, 2011, 10:47:17 AM
I really don't see Visser 3 standing in line at the docks come feeding time.
Just imagining it: :rofl:
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Darth Zakryn on February 19, 2011, 08:50:25 PM

Ok, now I feel really foolish for not having seen it sooner. :-]
Title: Re: Why hasn't Alloran escaped yet?
Post by: Tim Bruening on July 31, 2015, 01:20:26 PM
Wasn't there a mention of her cuffing Lore Altman to a radiator?

If Edriss could

Yeah, and she locked Eva to her portable Kandrona.

If Edriss could lock Eva up well enough to prevent her from escaping, then how did Edriss free Eva after returning to her body?