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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Yorick Brown on July 14, 2008, 06:29:18 PM
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What do you think would have happened to her if she had lived? I think Tobias would have become a nothlit to be wioth her and they'd spend the rest of their lives together. Probably helping Cassie with conservation and Jake with training
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Rachel is the kinda girl who would enter the united states military academy because of who she is and what she did or one of the other ones and excel to a point. However, she never would never be able to become a general. Instead she would only make it so far before her recklessness stopped her promotions.
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She would probably turn down the promotions too, she doesnt want to be sitting behind a desk giving out orders, shes a frontline girl
I can see her settling down for a little while with tobias, getting restless, hearing about some crisis on earth or another planet and signing up, dragging tobias with her, hell try to talk her out of it but come on
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tobias trying to talk rachel out of it? does he know her?
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I think Tobias would get trapped for her.
I could never see her going into the army, actually. I think the only person she was content with bossing her around was Jake.
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Rachel likes Tobias as a bird. I think she has some kind of control over him as a bird that she is afraid she'd loose if he was human.
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Huh? ??? Uh, than why was she like always suggesting that he become a human nothlit?
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suggesting? no more like pressuring.
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Exactamundo
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Because she wants to go all the way with. She doesn't consider him as a person. If he were to go human he would be trapped with no place to go and be out of the fight. In several ways she wants him to be a hawk that is almost a pet to her. She knows that only she can have him if he is a hawk.
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Because she wants to go all the way with. She doesn't consider him as a person. If he were to go human he would be trapped with no place to go and be out of the fight. In several ways she wants him to be a hawk that is almost a pet to her. She knows that only she can have him if he is a hawk.
I really don't think she was like that. I could see her going into the military or something like that. Or maybe become a cop.
Maybe her and Tobias would be a kind of crime fighting duo, with him in the air and her driving a car. Saving the world, one small crime at a time.
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Wait, what did they actually have in common outside of the war? Like would they have worked if the war wasn't going on in the first place. Tobias didn't seem like he had much ambition in life while Rachel was a go getter who had a lot of ambition in life.
Tobias' strength I think they said was art in 33 and dinosaurs.
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They are both brave, and have a strong sense of justice.
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you've got a point there Daphnes... lolz *pats u on the back*
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I like to think I know my Ani characters pretty well. ^-^
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Rachel likes Tobias as a bird. I think she has some kind of control over him as a bird that she is afraid she'd loose if he was human.
no thats just kinda selfish and insecure, definately not rachel
she wants them to be together as humans, but i think deep down the actual act of him purposefully getting trapped would completely turn her off to him, as hes removing himself from the war, i think rachel majorly respected his decision, even if she wished that didnt have to be the way
after the war she would def want him as a human tho, but in the end it really wouldnt work out between them lol, cause rachel would always want to morph and use her powers in dangerous and heroic situations and tobias would never be able to keep up as a human
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why doesn't Rachel trap herself as a Red Tail?
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even if they did both become birds they wouldnt have a natural relationship, two red tails getting together and staying together forever isnt natural the male deserts them immediately, theres no families, two humans however, very normal...well actually not as normal as it used to be, divorce rate so high nowadays lol
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why doesn't Rachel trap herself as a Red Tail?
cuz neither of them would want that???
I think everything would have changed if Rachel had lived. Well, maybe not Marco. Jake wouldn't be (as) depressed, tom may even have lived, so he'd be happy. Maybe him and Cassie would have patched things up. And then he'd probably find a job away from the military cuz, well he did his war stuff and wrapped it up nicely.
I don't know what would happened b/w her and tobias, she'd want he to become human, but at the same time it would remove his morphing, and flying together was a huge perk of their relation, so I can't see it really happening.
Rachel herself, probably go into law enforcement, or law, just like mommy :P.
Never the army, too rigid for her
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Rachel would never do something so selfish like trapping herself in a moroh just to be with Tobias. She would never leave her mom, sisters, Jake and Cassie and even Maco and Ax.
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This is a very interesting question. What would Rachel do if she had lived? I hated KA's conclusion to Rachel's story. I hated even more her explanation. That Rachel was deteriorating, losing herself to the war. And she'd never be able to recuperate had she lived on. So death was her only option. Nice way to keep your characters inspirational. Had she no hope for Rachel at all?
I agree someone had to die, but I really would have liked it if it had been Jake. Everyone would be sad, but at least they'd be able to move on with their lives. Cassie would definitely get over it. Eventually. Well, not entirely, but she'd be able to move on.
Anyway, maybe Rachel wouldnt be as bloodthirsty and wild as KA so heavily implied, after the war. just because she's an adrenaline junkie doesnt mean she cant learn to assimilate into normal society. She'd be like a soldier returning home from the war in Iraq. Transition might be difficult, but she's a freakin Animorph? It's not like she cant morph anymore. And that alone might be the escape she would need, the adrenaline rush, while living a normal life with Tobias. Hell, she might even do the fashion design thing on the side.
After she died, I was hoping the Ellimist would come to her like he did and enlist her as one of his warriors, protecting the galaxy in the intergalactic chess game. Like the Crayak had the Drode, Howlers, and other agents. I know she would have excelled at that. And more importantly, been happy doing so.
The Rachel who narrated in the beginning of The Beginning was perfectly sane, smart, and looking forward to the war ending. She even goes on to say, It was almost unfair, not being able to live to the end after all she'd done. I think Rachel deserves more credit than we, and KA, were willing to give her. She's a smart girl who would have found a way to live life and just deal. Its what we do well as humans. Adapt.
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If the Ellemist had taken her in some way, and she had lived as some kind of galactic protector, then it would be much more satisfying to me. Instead of him just saying he can't do anything because of the rules.
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Rachel would turn into an extreme sports junkie. Tobias would then become human and go off to college and become a nerd again.
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Thats kinda mean to say.
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What's wrong with being a nerd? >:(
I mean, look at where you ARE man! An online community for a juvenile fiction series that ended seven years ago and had a cheesy TV show! ::)
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What's wrong with being a nerd? >:(
I mean, look at where you ARE man! An online community for a juvenile fiction series that ended seven years ago and had a cheesy TV show! ::)
Ha! Ha! Ha! Touche!
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i have a big reason to think you will be mauled by alot of other peaple(they're in there 20's and the books are heaven to them)
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What's wrong with being a nerd? >:(
I mean, look at where you ARE man! An online community for a juvenile fiction series that ended seven years ago and had a cheesy TV show! ::)
So ur basically saying everybody on here is a nerd? Cuz I sure as hell aint.
Back on Topic....
If Rachel lived so many things would've changed. Tobias wouldn't be a bird emo, Jake wouldn't be depressed either, Cassie would've probably stayed in touch with the rest of the Animorphs (especially Jake) and Marco...Marco would've stayed the same.
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He said the N word! :o Destroy him!! >:(
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which him? Me or Venomousspiderwooki e(God, even when I'm typing it tht name is a mouth full)
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which him? Me or Venomousspiderwooki e(God, even when I'm typing it tht name is a mouth full)
Both I guess. Maybe I should have put "They". I was just trying to be funny anyway.
Venomousspiderwooki e is truly a mouthful. Maybe just call him spiderwookie, wookie, or VSW.
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My name is John.
And what's so wrong with being a nerd?
A nerd is just someone who's...passionate :)
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Yay! I'm a nerd! is that a good thing?
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yea, but it was used in the context that Tobias was a nerd and that was bad. I wonder why he did get beat on all the time though? You think he would have gone anywhere? I mean his aunt kept him out of school and that is kinda weird.
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Tobias certainly wasn't dumb, it's ridiculous to say that he didn't have any talents beyond art and dinosaurs. All of the Animorphs were intelligent, the only person who ever had trouble in school was Cassie and it was only in math.
I hate when people say that Rachel could have never lived after the war. I could easily see her becoming a lawyer.
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what about marco? they always say he sometimes falls asleep in class.
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what about marco? they always say he sometimes falls asleep in class.
There's a difference between not applying yourself and being stupid. I know people who I think are rather simple that have decent grades because they devote their lives to school and I know brilliant people who couldn't care less.
Marco may have been the smartest one in the group.
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I think Rachel needed a war to live in the end. She is career military. After going through the war she became too addicted to it I think.
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I think Rachel needed a war to live in the end. She is career military. After going through the war she became too addicted to it I think.
I hate that so many Animorphs fans think that addicts are incapable of recovering.
"Oh the Animorphs are tramautized by the war." Well that's basically a slap in the face to all of those people coming home from Iraq with PTSD.
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well it's not exactly impossible to do, but it is pretty hard to recover from an addiction.
like smoking. not impossible to quit but still hard.
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well it's not exactly impossible to do, but it is pretty hard to recover from an addiction.
like smoking. not impossible to quit but still hard.
Exactly.
I'm not saying it would be easy, but she could've done it. She has the determination.
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just because it's not impossible, doesn't mean anybody can do it. although I guess you are right she does have the determination...
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Rachel would be a lawyer, because there she could use that same "Let's do it!" determination to win any case ;)
She would also be the most gorgeously dressed attorney around :P
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Yea, but who says she wants to give up fighting wars?
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Yea, but who says she wants to give up fighting wars?
Legal battles are still battles.
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Yeah-ee-yeah!!! 8) :P
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Yea, but who says she wants to give up fighting wars?
Legal battles are still battles.
couldn't have said it better myself +1! ;D
plus, if she lived, there is still Tobias, another reason for her to become normal again. She actually wants to become a normal person during the war only because of Tobias.
and Tobias isn't a nerd. I think he was just too nice. Too nice to fight back, until, of course, the construction site and the Andalite and the box and the hawk....
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So she has to become a lawyer now? Isn't that kinda saying what I'm saying, she ain't loosing that crazy fight in her anytime soon and if she doesn't let it out she goes nuts. I don't see why people are so against her heading towards the military when that was how her life was heading.
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Because she wants to go all the way with. She doesn't consider him as a person. If he were to go human he would be trapped with no place to go and be out of the fight. In several ways she wants him to be a hawk that is almost a pet to her. She knows that only she can have him if he is a hawk.
She may be kinda manipulative but that seems dark even for Rachel. I believe her friendship, even love, with Tobias was completely genuine. As for her life afterwards, I think she would have been bored with her life, being practically addicted to adrenaline.
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In 33 Tobias said she was counting on the time to run out. Rachel wants to trap him. It isn't completely selfish but it is there.
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In some of her darker moments,yes, but I believe she knew the importance of Tobias staying in the fight
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Plus the fact that she gave him clothes, though a nice gesture, also gave me the sense that she wanted to control Tobias as a human. She always picked out clothes for him that she wanted him to wear.
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Plus the fact that she gave him clothes, though a nice gesture, also gave me the sense that she wanted to control Tobias as a human. She always picked out clothes for him that she wanted him to wear.
She was the best dresser wasn't she? Who else would pick clothes for Tobias when he needs it, Cassie? Certainly Jake and Marco showed no interest in shopping for him. Ax, well, Ax took a while before he could dress himself.
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My name is John.
And what's so wrong with being a nerd?
All the nerds I know get on my mother f[beep]ing nerves with their high(and some times low) nasily voices tht make them sound like squidward, their obsession with anime to the point where they start a school club about how much they like it(I like anime but Im not obsessed with), how they think they know everything and they think they're cool. I just cant stand them especially the one in my english class I just wanna punch him the face just for existing! I know I sound mean but I just really can't stand the stereotypical nerd.
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Plus the fact that she gave him clothes, though a nice gesture, also gave me the sense that she wanted to control Tobias as a human. She always picked out clothes for him that she wanted him to wear.
Again, that seems kinda dark, even for Rachel. But, From that perspective, I see how control could be a disturbing and subtle, but very real factor.
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Live and let live.
Be nice to nerds, you'll probably end up working for one.
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Live and let live.
Be nice to nerds, you'll probably end up working for one.
probably but not my entier life since i plan on starting my own business
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what you think the irs is full of idiots who can't do math? Trust me, if you're a jerk to nerds they will screw you over one way or another. Oh and for someone who thinks nerds are too obsessed with anime, you sure seem to have a lot on your youtube site.
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what you think the irs is full of idiots who can't do math?
Not all nerds are smart and not all smart people are nerds
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Trust me you want to be nice to people in this world. Karma is real and payback's a ****.
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um...so what is the exact definition of nerds...cuz if not all nerds are smart, my definition must be wrong.
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people with tape around their glasses :nerd:, frequent nose bleeds :nerd:, body odor :nerd:, really bad acne :nerd:, and snort when they laugh :nerd:
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how do you snort when you laugh? I can't snort period.
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I dunno. ask a nerd
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people with tape around their glasses :nerd:, frequent nose bleeds :nerd:, body odor :nerd:, really bad acne :nerd:, and snort when they laugh :nerd:
You forgot the really stupid nasily voices, their obsession with crap like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, and they get really really annoying when they thing they're cool or wheh they try to act funny
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hey what's wrong with yu-gi-oh and pokemon? I like them both.
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my point exactly
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hey what's wrong with yu-gi-oh and pokemon? I like them both.
Yu-Gi-Oh is just...the most retarded thing I've ever seen on TV(The only good thing was the card game actually made sense unlike the digimon and pokemon ones) And the pokemon games are fun but the show is really stupid and repetitive. Shouldn't we move this to the "Totally Random Thoughts" topic cuz we're getting really off topic
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exactly! It's time to move this conversation somewhere else
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like the topic?
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yea
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Ok, you may not be a nerd, just smart. Nerds aren't what the other guys say. Nerds are people who only have books and computers and cards as friends. No social life whatsoever.
Please remember this. :)
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oh thank you Counter. I was starting to think I wasn't a nerd. Ok. I'm a nerd ;D...hmm...well almost. I have about 3-10 non-book, non-computer, non-card friends.
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Oooh... the fine line between nerd and normal... ;D
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Ok, you may not be a nerd, just smart. Nerds aren't what the other guys say. Nerds are people who only have books and computers and cards as friends. No social life whatsoever.
Please remember this. :)
Yep tht's pretty much sums it up. Thnx Counter. LOL this little conversation brought my Karma down twice guess some ppl dont really like me now ;D
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Ok, I'll applaud you... just for old times' sake... :)
(like, 5 mins ago... :D)
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She would probably turn down the promotions too, she doesn't want to be sitting behind a desk giving out orders, shes a frontline girl
I can see her settling down for a little while with Tobias, getting restless, hearing about some crisis on earth or another planet and signing up, dragging Tobias with her, hell try to talk her out of it but come on
I bet that she would volunteer to kick the butt of ISIS! She would be appalled at ISIS for beheading hostages and Christians. I suspect that she would be critical of Obama for not sending in a large army to smash ISIS.
She might also volunteer to rescue the Americans Iran is holding.
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Raychel b dum out of kontrol fiter, amirite?
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Might Rachael join a Biker Gang?