Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Gyt Kaliba on August 14, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
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Sorry if this has been done before guys, but I couldn't find one anyway. ;D
Suppose this revival, this Animorphs 2.0, does well enough that a new TV show is proposed. What format would you want it to be in? Traditional animation, like all the cartoons we used to see and continue to see on TV today sometimes? CG animation, like Shrek, Toy Story, etc., the new 'favorite' to be cutting edge? Or maybe no animation at all, and have it be live-action like the old show? Or would you not want a new show at all? Or perhaps you'd take either way?
Pick your poison! :P
My choice would be traditional animation. I'm honestly not that fond of CG for CG's sake like a lot of things do now, and as cool as it would be, I don't see Animorphs being able to be done well enough live-action without a movie budget...unless they somehow shanghaied a budged like what Heroes had.
More specifically, I'd want someone who can do action toons behind the animation, so maybe we'd get something Teen Titans or Ben 10, or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, caliber. I'd love it even more if they got a foreign Japanese animation studio - but that's probably just the anime fan in me. ^_^;
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i like the idea of stick figures.
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I vote animated, though I don't really care if it's colored or CGI. Although CGI would be great if Pixar did it. They make awesome movies. I don't know if they'd do it as a series, though.
Animorphs could work as either a movie series, or just a TV series. Just don't try to do it like The Last Airbender and scrunch too much into a tight time frame.
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Live action, if it was done RIGHT...
Either that or stick figures x3
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CGI FTW. I don't really care for traditional animations anymore (except a few good ones)
Live action would be cool too, if it's done right. But the morphing scenes would most likely end up being CG, and without a good budget they would suck. Not to mention the costumes, etc.
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I voted live-action, but a traditional animated would be cool too. I just... don't like really much the CGI. For some shows, it's OK. But I think it's better for the funny animations, not for the darker ones. I'd prefer something like Gargoyles or X-Men Evolution... or even with a Japanese style.
And I agree with Crystalclear. A live-action must be done correctly. We saw they can do good stuff on other TVshows, so if they try, they can!
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When I said CGI, I didn't actually refer to Disney/Pixar style, but more realistic style like they have on newer games... Anybody here plays Heavy Rain on PS3? Tekken?
(http://kokugamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/365432-heavy_rain_think_ethan_mars_origami_killer-533x299.jpg)(http://ui19.gamespot.com/2162/pascalethan_2.jpg)
(http://www.develop-online.net/static/images/features/856/184_1194_Real%20Ethan%20Mars%20Actor.jpg?i=1271329950)(http://i34.tinypic.com/2whpel1.jpg)
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I don't think they'd make something like the pictures you showed, Crystalclear...
When you look at the animated show for kids on TV, do you really think it fits to Animorphs?
Well, it's my opinion. I just prefer the traditional animation and I'm a little sad it's so much CGI everywhere nowadays.
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Unfortunately with tradition cartoon animation, there's a stigma that stuff that looks like that is just for little kids. Not teenagers or higher. Animorphs is a kid's series, but it's the older group that's nearing their teenage years.
Although Avatar and Japanese animation is quite good and more adult oriented.
I believe even though live action could be done, it would be the more expensive option. You have all the animals and trainers, and safety regulation because of the large predators. I don't think animatronic animals would work.
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I'd actually prefer they did traditional animation rather than CGI. I'd love an Animorphs cartoon with an anime-ish artstyle. Not too cartoony. Something similar to Death Note (http://www.animeresimleri.com/data/media/58/death_note_wallpaper_4.jpg) or Bleach (http://bleach.itudia.com/images/bleach_intro.gif) or Wolf's Rain (http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p480/4everdavids/favorite%20anime/wolfs-rain-1.jpg)
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Yeah, I'd like them to look realistic, instead of being more like caricatures.
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I'm absolutely disgusted with Hollywood as of late, the very thought of Animorphs being made into a "blockbuster" makes me weep. If it where to be made into a live action movie, I would have no choice but to kidnap the directors children and threaten their lives so as to make sure it was made right, and the director doesn't pull another Airbender out of his ass.
If it's to be animated, whether as a show or as a movie, something in a more realistic, WESTERN style would be best. I personally would love to see it in a style similar to The Iron Giant.
(http://www.deeplyshallow.com/images/giant5.jpg)
But seeing how there hasn't been a good 2D animated move with the quality of The Iron Giant since... well.
I really can't see it being made in full CG, though. I don't see the point, unless it's mind-blowingly realistic. But then, it might as well be live action.
And I really can't say this enough: NO ANIME. I'm sorry, but the very thought makes me want to suck my brains out through my eustachian tubes, and feed them to the stray cats outside.
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Yeah, but the main advantage of it being realistic CG over live action is that you don't need animals or trainers or other expensive stuff. More money can go to the actual movie than to the people who make the movie happen. I would rather it be Western made personally. Not that I don't like anime, but it's an American made series set in California. Have it done here by Americans.
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I didn't say make it an anime. That would be a bad idea. But anime artstyle is so beautiful, and in most cases, more realistic than weastern animation. The Iron Giant is an exception though. I love that movie. Though I'm a little curious as to what kind of crack somebody would have to smoke to name their child Hogarth. ;D
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I watched that movie. One of the best parts was when the paranoid guy ordered a strike on the robot when he was in the town. And then he tries to run off when his superior tells him how stupid the move was. any sympathy for the guy you may have had would surely go down the drain after that.
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hmmm..how bout an artsyle similar to A:TLA but a little less cartoony. That was a nice Eastern/Western mix
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TLA has some awesome visula effects too, especially when it comes to animating fire
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An Animorphs show made by whoever was responsible for the visuals in TLA would look EPIC
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I'm not into anime though, so I don't find anime-style animation appealing :P big eyes != realistic. creepy too.
At this stage I think live action would be best, just make sure it has a good budget, good actors, and a good director. Also, they need fans/readers input, really. Most movie adaptations suck.
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what i think would be excellent is if hayao miyazaki (studio ghibli) directed an animorphs movie. he has a somewhat realistic anime style, and its beautiful. he doesn't compromise quality and consistently handles darker themes in childrens movies excellently. think princess mononoke.
but ideally, for movie or tv show, i'd have to say live action, probably supplemented with some cgi for the morphing at all. something along the lines of fringe on fox.
i woudn't be able to stand a fully cgi series. the thing with cgi is that it never is 100% realistic, but because that's what animators are going for, suspension of disbelief of whatever doesn't happen so the entire time i'm bothered by how character x is moving strangely and is weird and oh, it's because he's animated.
i just hope that whoever handles it, they won't absolutely butcher it ):
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I've already said I'm opposed to it because it's the most expensive route. Does it really need to be realistic enough that we actually think the Yeerks are really out there? Because we all know if you pay attention, the Anis wouldn't last past the identification of Cassie's mother. Yeah, one of the Anis is the daughter of the person in charge of the Gardens. Gee, who could that person be? It's not like it's easy to see who the staff at the Gardens is. Oh wait...
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Unfortunately with tradition cartoon animation, there's a stigma that stuff that looks like that is just for little kids. Not teenagers or higher. Animorphs is a kid's series, but it's the older group that's nearing their teenage years.
Although Avatar and Japanese animation is quite good and more adult oriented.
I believe even though live action could be done, it would be the more expensive option. You have all the animals and trainers, and safety regulation because of the large predators. I don't think animatronic animals would work.
Well... maybe I have a different opinion because the French/European cartoons are still traditional, usually...
And I remember very well the old American cartoons, the old Disney's... and the Japanese anime...
Really, the CGI is cool, but not so much for the dramatic cartoons... at least, what I've seen until now.
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I agree with the ones who want a realistic, traditional cartoon. Something anime-style would be alright too, as long as it don't look like this:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/aza666/Japanese%20Anime%20Pics/tokyomewmew.jpg)
(haha).
But what Enki suggested (The Iron Giant) very looked cool too!
Western style would fit Animorphs very well, I think.
I could actually imagine an Animorphs cartoon to look like that! ;D
I also agree about a tv series - it would be cool to watch a good-budget live action series or even full-lenght film(s)!
I have not watched the old tv series, but according to what you have told about it, it sounds rather.. bad ;p
But of course I would like to see a live action made in a good way.
But I guess that is not going to happen :disgrace:
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I agree with the ones who want a realistic, traditional cartoon. Something anime-style would be alright too, as long as it don't look like this:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff19/aza666/Japanese%20Anime%20Pics/tokyomewmew.jpg)
(haha).
OH GOD NO!!! THOSE AREN'T THE KIND OF ANIMORPHS WE'RE TALKIN ABOUT!!!
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Oh, when I think of "live action" I mean the human characters and most of the sets are real, but the aliens, ships, and the animals are cg... like the vast majority of movies made nowadays. A "cg" movie would be when 100% of everything is cg... which is lame.
The technology is such now a days that I would have no problem with a fully cg Ax, or morphing sequences, or even all of the animals when they are in morph. I think that would be much better over using real animals, since they don't exactly behave like real animals... I just can't see training a real gorilla to punch someone in the face with the accuracy and intent that a human-in-gorilla-morph would have.
Movies like District 9 and Avatar have raised the bar on cg animation. They're even starting to animate creatures to move in a realistic way :D (rubbery and over exaggerated cg creatures are a huge pet peeve for me).
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I've never seen any traditional cartoon that is realistic :-\ To me cartoon != realistic, but to each their own ;)
Oh, when I think of "live action" I mean the human characters and most of the sets are real, but the aliens, ships, and the animals are cg... like the vast majority of movies made nowadays. A "cg" movie would be when 100% of everything is cg... which is lame.
Maybe this is because I'm a multimedia design student, but to me a full CG movie is the coolest thing ever ;) I enjoy them more than live action, and while watching I can also study the techniques used.
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I've never seen any traditional cartoon that is realistic Undecided To me cartoon != realistic, but to each their own Wink
Hmm maybe the correct term is naturalistic? What I mean is a style that is closer to correct proportions, using natural color schemes, etc.
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So you've never seen Avatar: The Last Airbender? Or some Japanese anime? There are realistic cartoons out there. Just like there is unrealistic CG.
I guess a mix of live action and CG would be ok if they can do it right.
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No, because like I said I'm not into anime :P I know about Avatar, but never really watched it because I'm not interested with the theme. I know there's unrealistic CG, most pixar/disney/kids-related stuff are not realistic, yes.
Like I said, for Animorphs, the best would be live action mixed with CG, especially if they can make the CG part at least as good as Garfield the movie.
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I watched a Garfield movie. That was good. It was Tale of two Kitties.
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I'm not into anime though, so I don't find anime-style animation appealing :P big eyes != realistic. creepy too.
Don't take this as me picking on you please, I just had to point it though. ;D
1. Not all anime has the big eyes, though it is a pretty big trend, I can't lie...
2. The big eye thing is actually our fault, the godfather of anime based his art style off of Betty Boop. :P
It should also be said that when I say I want an anime-style or actual anime one, I don't mean them anime-ing it up - just the high level of animation that most anime have. You just don't find that kind of animation in most US toons nowadays!
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That's what I was tryin to say too :P
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There are also many horribly-animated animes too, though. It's just easier to say Western animation is lower quality because we haven't had any good Western animation cartoons in a while, possibly because there's less demand for them since most viewers seem to prefer anime. There are many beautifully animated cartoons and movies in the more Western style from the 80's and 90's.
Personally, I'd be a bit peeved if Animorphs was done in an anime style, just because anime is so ubiquitous and it really does nothing for me. And I'm a cranky part-Japanese girl who gets tired of white people acting like anime is the be all and end all of Japanese culture and that Japan is nothing but a consumerist funland for manga lovers. Not saying anyone here does that, but it's a big problem I have with anime fans as a general community and I wouldn't want to see that problem import itself into beloved Animorphs. Just my opinion.
I'd say animated would be most feasible, though, since even with modern CGI it would be difficult to simulate realistic animals on a budget.
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I just had a thought. I'd really rather not have any of the male characters be bishonen. Like how typically anime makes the guys look rather effeminate because most Japanese think androgynous guys are hotter than beefy guys. except Ax's Human morph, but only because it's a mix between two guys and two girls. It makes sense for him to look like a girly guy.
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^That too ;) pretty guys turn me off. Manly men ftw ;D
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I really hate seeing men that could be mistaken for women, especially easily mistaken.
That's one of the big differences in our culture. In Japan a beefy guy is likely to be gay, while fangirls sqee over all those men that could pass as women if they wanted to.
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(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs10/i/2006/076/b/7/Tribute_to_Animorphs_by_ShadowInverse.jpg)
A little too cartoony(I think Rachel and Jake look REALLY good though) but this is almost what I"m talkin bout when I say Animorphs with an anime-ish artstyle is doable
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs14/i/2007/095/e/f/Coloured__My_Name_Is____by_SilverXenomorph.png)
This one is nice too
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While it would be absurdly difficult to make into something with a reasonable framerate, I really like realistic-styled animation, like this:
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs40/PRE/f/2009/039/f/6/f6f2a2fb612e1a1939137eab46530355.png)
Still, CGI is viable - probably not on a budget though.
(http://www.stardusttrailers.com/gallery_film/10.000_B.C.%28movie_wallpaper_pictures_photo_pics_poster%29%28211209164920%2910000_bc_7.jpg)
That tiger is completely CGI.
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While it would be absurdly difficult to make into something with a reasonable framerate, I really like realistic-styled animation, like this:
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs40/PRE/f/2009/039/f/6/f6f2a2fb612e1a1939137eab46530355.png)
Awesome! I never saw this pic before, but I love it!
For the live-action, I'd also prefer something with CG for the animals and the airships. But it's true, it's expensive... The animation would be less expensive, so has more chances to be made.
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There are also many horribly-animated animes too, though. It's just easier to say Western animation is lower quality because we haven't had any good Western animation cartoons in a while, possibly because there's less demand for them since most viewers seem to prefer anime. There are many beautifully animated cartoons and movies in the more Western style from the 80's and 90's.
I agree, I'm not trying to throw Western animation under the train so-to-speak - sorry if it came off that way. It just seems to be the standard that most US cartoons don't get the care needed to craft a good story, much less good animation, nowadays. I can think of lots of them from the past though, like TMNT, Sonic SatAM, Ghostbusters, etc.; and I see hope nowadays too, in shows like Ben 10, Avatar (though I've not seen much of it), and even in more humor based shows like Futurama.
Not to mention the awesome win so-far that is Scooby Doo: Mystery Inc.! (And now that I've proven I'm a complete animation nerd...)
Personally, I'd be a bit peeved if Animorphs was done in an anime style, just because anime is so ubiquitous and it really does nothing for me. And I'm a cranky part-Japanese girl who gets tired of white people acting like anime is the be all and end all of Japanese culture and that Japan is nothing but a consumerist funland for manga lovers. Not saying anyone here does that, but it's a big problem I have with anime fans as a general community and I wouldn't want to see that problem import itself into beloved Animorphs. Just my opinion.
I know the kind, haha. No worries, I may be a huge fan of anime and manga, and other Japanese stuff (like Godzilla), but to say that's all Japan is about is like saying all America is about is like...Star Wars, Star Trek, and fast food.
Still, CGI is viable - probably not on a budget though.
(http://www.stardusttrailers.com/gallery_film/10.000_B.C.%28movie_wallpaper_pictures_photo_pics_poster%29%28211209164920%2910000_bc_7.jpg)
That tiger is completely CGI.
Argh...That's why I wouldn't want CG unless it was mind-blowing CG, but not so far that it looks...I dunno, it's hard for me to explain. The only example I can give is that I was not a fan of Avatar's CG. Yes, it looked AMAZING - but when it was up next to a real person, it looked too artificial, it wasn't seamless to me. I'm very picky when it comes to CG. ^_^;
(Multi-editing posts is harder than it used to be for me...must be the old age kicking in!)
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While it would be absurdly difficult to make into something with a reasonable framerate, I really like realistic-styled animation, like this:
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs40/PRE/f/2009/039/f/6/f6f2a2fb612e1a1939137eab46530355.png)
Wow, I like that a lot, and I don't see how it would be any harder to animate than any other style, really. It's not that much more complex than usual. It has some anime influence, but it's definitely in a style I think a lot of people could agree with. I wonder if that artist drew any of the alien species as well?
(http://www.stardusttrailers.com/gallery_film/10.000_B.C.%28movie_wallpaper_pictures_photo_pics_poster%29%28211209164920%2910000_bc_7.jpg)
That tiger is completely CGI.
I was always under the impression that CGI is actually cheaper in a lot of cases?
There is some pretty decent cg being used in "budget" movies, like Iron Sky, which is being made entirely on donations:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeAfoiN5SDw[/youtube]
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Yeah, when they have a good budget, the CGI is usually awesome. But I'm afraid that, if they make something for Animorphs, they won't put a lot of money in... And then the CGI wouldn't be so good.
What do you think about this kind of animation?
Martin Mystery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Mystery)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiWgozoI_c&feature=PlayList&p=D83DF3E844F44FB4&index=0&playnext=1[/youtube]
(It's a show I really like)
and
Totally Spies! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totally_Spies!)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGQWXyx7Cvs&p=717DF066D500BFB4&playnext=1&index=2[/youtube]
I really like the style. It's almost a Japanese style, as you can see, but in fact they're Italian-French-Canadian! And it fits quite well to the dark stories and to the funny stories...
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I was always under the impression that CGI is actually cheaper in a lot of cases?
Depends on what you're comparing it with. Traditional animation is a lot cheaper than CGI, but if you compare it to live action movies with directors, actors, crews and others, of course it's pretty much cheaper :) A CGI movie only really needs some animators, voice actors, and some really good computers.
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Can we please, please make our characters the right age this time? And actually give morphing some screentime? And treat it like the serious scifi/horror drama that it is?
I care more about those structural things than the medium.
Though, if I had a choice, Studio Bones, directed by Seiji Mizushima (first FMA anime), written by Chiaki J Konaka (Digimon Tamers, Bubblegum Crisis), art direction by Junichi Higashi (RahXephon, Cowboy Bebop)
Art style similar to RahXephon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-vli7PZ0-I&feature=related), except with western characters. RX gets mad props for making the Japanese characters actually look Japanese as opposed to "big-head manga race."
Speaking of which, I just got some new books which very nicely illustrate the different head/body proportions of anime and manga.
From left to right
Fullmetal Alchemist, Roy Mustang: realistic, ~33% head to shoulders
Dennou Coil, "Yasako" Okonogi Yuuko: standard deformed, head slightly smaller than shoulders, ~80%
Pocket Monsters Special, Blue: super deformed, ~150% (in background on cover, she's usually around ~110%)
(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss312/wildweathel/th_IMG_7328.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/albums/ss312/wildweathel/?action=view¤t=IMG_7328.jpg)
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Having actual child actors is complicated, what with school time and the limited amount of time that it's legal to work children. That's why people tend to be over aged for their roles. I'm not really sure how to rectify that, except that it would take long for the stuff to come out and they'd have to use new people once in a while because of growing up. One more advantage to having the characters animated as well as everything else.
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While it would be absurdly difficult to make into something with a reasonable framerate, I really like realistic-styled animation, like this:
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs40/PRE/f/2009/039/f/6/f6f2a2fb612e1a1939137eab46530355.png)
OMG I LOVE IT! They look a bit older than the Anis were in the beginning of the series but that is PERFECT
Yeah, when they have a good budget, the CGI is usually awesome. But I'm afraid that, if they make something for Animorphs, they won't put a lot of money in... And then the CGI wouldn't be so good.
What do you think about this kind of animation?
Martin Mystery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Mystery)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiWgozoI_c&feature=PlayList&p=D83DF3E844F44FB4&index=0&playnext=1[/youtube]
(It's a show I really like)
and
Totally Spies! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totally_Spies!)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGQWXyx7Cvs&p=717DF066D500BFB4&playnext=1&index=2[/youtube]
I really like the style. It's almost a Japanese style, as you can see, but in fact they're Italian-French-Canadian! And it fits quite well to the dark stories and to the funny stories...
I don't really care for the style of both of the shows, and I'm not just saying that cuz I hate both shows with a passion, but the only thing the creator of those shows seem to be good at are drawing women and kids and even those look too cartoony
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Traditional animation is totally the way to go with so many made-up species, just in my opinion. CGI for Yeerks and Hork Bajir and Andalites and other species would just be too difficult and cheapened in the long run. Traditional animation would give it all more of a soul.
I leafed through the thread and Enki said Iron Giant style. Oh goodness, I agree, that'd be the way to go for such an animated sci-fi series as Animorphs :3 I'd love it!
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I actually wouldnt mind an Iron Giant-type artstyle. As long as Jake doesn't have ears that are almost larger than his face.
(http://www.mediacircus.net/irongiant______2.gif)
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LOL.
I think Hogarth has huge ears 'cus he's a pre-teen. Awkward growth stage, his feet and hands are pretty big too!
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Yeah, that's probably why he's drawn like that. He's hit puberty, and you know all your body doesn't grow at the same speed.
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Sadly everyone knows that phase D: I know... some... of my body parts came in before other body parts. I hated it.
Maybe Jake should be drawn awkwardly at first and get consistently more normal looking as he reaches 16/17.
I also want certain scenes where you know the news article was purely put in to emphasize the scene:
(http://www.alexoiknine.com/Catastrophe.png)
Ah that cracks me up every time.
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Blue, I don't really see why you say that (it's quite close to manga animation), but it's your opinion... And as you're the only one who answered, I suppose the other RAFians think like you ^^'
What is your favorite animation (for drawings)?
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I haven't seen Iron Giant in years, but doesn't it avoid the usual expressive shorthands most anime uses (the single sweatdrop on the head, the pulsing temple thing, the colorful blur as the character practically teleports to another location so the audience knows they're moving quickly, so on)? The proportions and motions look like they're done differently from anime too. It doesn't look all that anime-ish to me at all.
Iron Giant Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTnu-cGP17w&feature=related). Beautiful!
Personally, I'm not big on the Totally Spies and Martian Mystery animation. Too many of those shorthands.
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I haven't seen Iron Giant in years, but doesn't it avoid the usual expressive shorthands most anime uses (the single sweatdrop on the head, the pulsing temple thing, the colorful blur as the character practically teleports to another location so the audience knows they're moving quickly, so on)? The proportions and motions look like they're done differently from anime too. It doesn't look all that anime-ish to me at all.
Iron Giant Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTnu-cGP17w&feature=related). Beautiful!
Personally, I'm not big on the Totally Spies and Martian Mystery animation. Too many of those shorthands.
"shorthands"??
The Iron Giant's kind is beautiful, but I don't like the big ears either ^^'
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The little visual tropes used in different styles of animation to depict certain things without really trying. For example, in anime, the bead of sweat, the pulsing temple, or the red line over the cheeks and nose to denote blushing.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Anirage-alternate.svg/720px-Anirage-alternate.svg.png)
Instant anger! Instant worry!
Western animation totally has these too, but for some reason I don't notice them and they don't distract me, probably because I was raised with Western animation and am used to those shorthands. It's just a personal preference for me, I really don't like a lot of the manga ones.
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What is your favorite animation (for drawings)?
I thought that was obvious. I'm an anime man all the way lol. And I'd like to point out that those "shorthands" Lisa's talking about are only used for comedic purposes. Never in serious situations. The "pulsing temple thing" would actually be perfect in Rachel/Marco scenes :P
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Oh I see!! I didn't know they were called like that! Well, I think I also notice more the manga ones but I don't care. I'm used to manga now. And I know what it comes from... (the anger one is from the veins when the character is angry, and they made it simpler and simpler through the time... except some artists, who prefer the "realistic" drawings). The "shorthands" are OK in a funny anime. But for Animorphs, I think I wouldn't like to have too many of them... May be only for some Marco-Rachel dialogs ;)
:edit: lol Blue! We answered in the same time and I thought exactly the same ^^'
And I wanted to know the title of your favorite series...
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And I wanted to know the title of your favorite series...
Well my favorite series(right now, I tend to switch) is Soul Eater but that art style definetly doesn't fit Animorphs
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMK_xzkYM8s[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGmqn51xQ1g&feature=related[/youtube]
If I were to pick my favorite series based on realistic Art Styles I'd have to go with Wolf's Rain or Bleach
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQuu7GPxAI&p=CA5D058B5290CC56&playnext=1&index=12[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JC-lhTHEY[/youtube]
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OK ^^ I was surprised that Soul Eater is made by the same guy who made Get Backers (I really like Get Backers ^^ but I like less the drawings in Soul Eater). Anyway, maybe I'll watch it later, the story may be interesting... even if I usually prefer seinen over shounen...
The style of Wolf's Rain (it's the style of many anime nowadays ^^) would fit very well to Animorphs. Well, except if you don't like the Japanese style for an Occidental series... I wouldn't mind, but some RAF seem they would.
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Oh yay! I got Sealie watchin Soul Eater too. You'll love it!
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Oh yay! I got Sealie watchin Soul Eater too. You'll love it!
lol yeah but later, I already have a lot of things to watch before that.
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o.o
So I really aren't the only anime fan here? YAY! ;D
It'd never happen, but I could totally go for something using Masakazu Katsura's art-style, it's a nice mix of realism and manga-normal artstyles.
Examples!
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2580/zetmanv06c064p09091hb9.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QI6iLJt_I6s/RmA9peSIO5I/AAAAAAAAAa0/rFYEy-TiE8U/s400/zetman.JPG)
Ohh...and don't even get me started on what his battle scenes would look like! *fanboy drools*
Oh, and he drew the guy in my avatar and the people in my sig too lol, so he's got the humor side down too. ;)
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I didn't know it, but these are beautiful drawings!
A mangaka who also draw between manga-style and more realism, is Naoki Urasawa (Monster, 20th Century Boys, Pluto, Billy Bat). He's one of my favorite mangaka (well, he does seinen, so of course it's a good point for me ;))
(http://carnot69.free.fr/images/monster.jpg) (http://www.weebulle.com/img/p/7236-17098.jpg)
As you can see on this 2nd picture, his characters have very different faces, we don't recognize them only because of their clothes and their hair-color ^^' We even recognize them when they grow old. Of course, from a series to another, you can find some characters who look almost the same...
*Reading more about Masakazu Katsura* Hmmm he also draw seinen (Zetman)... very good very good... Gonna find some volumes right now... ;)
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I always thought Roxas, from Kingdom Hearts, gave off a bit of a Tobias vibe, in both appearence and personality.
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs16/f/2007/209/2/0/Roxas_by_Sajira.png)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/193/2/a/Roxas_by_AnaKris.jpg)
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs28/f/2008/167/6/5/65212b3ddcdc0df47062e1799a668f16.jpg)
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I think another attempt at a live action show would be great. It would keep the personification and depth of the characters more than an animated version would. Sure, an animated series would technically have more freedom than a live action show, but compare what they can do nowadays with special effects and CG as opposed to back in 1998 when the show first came out...
Not that I dislike animation. I would just prefer to be able to feel that connection with my favorite characters.
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A mangaka who also draw between manga-style and more realism, is Naoki Urasawa (Monster, 20th Century Boys, Pluto, Billy Bat). He's one of my favorite mangaka (well, he does seinen, so of course it's a good point for me ;))
It's ironic you mention that, because I just picked up the first boxset of the Monster anime today! I've never seen it, but having heard so many good things about it, I couldn't pass it up when I found it on the cheap.
*Reading more about Masakazu Katsura* Hmmm he also draw seinen (Zetman)... very good very good... Gonna find some volumes right now... ;)
The two picture examples I posted are from Zetman. ;D Lemme know what you think of it, though depending on where you're from you may not find volumes released. The US doesn't have it yet, though we've gotten some of his other shonen stuff, like I"s (which is one of my other obsessions, and the source of my avatar/sig), Video Girl Ai, and DNA2 (well, the anime we got on this one, not the manga). His shonen isn't your basic DBZ/Naruto/Bleach/One Piece fare by any means though (not that I don't like those too), so be sure not to dismiss those just because they're shonen. ;)
Oh, and be warned - Katsura likes his fan-service.
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A mangaka who also draw between manga-style and more realism, is Naoki Urasawa (Monster, 20th Century Boys, Pluto, Billy Bat). He's one of my favorite mangaka (well, he does seinen, so of course it's a good point for me ;))
It's ironic you mention that, because I just picked up the first boxset of the Monster anime today! I've never seen it, but having heard so many good things about it, I couldn't pass it up when I found it on the cheap.
*Reading more about Masakazu Katsura* Hmmm he also draw seinen (Zetman)... very good very good... Gonna find some volumes right now... ;)
The two picture examples I posted are from Zetman. ;D Lemme know what you think of it, though depending on where you're from you may not find volumes released. The US doesn't have it yet, though we've gotten some of his other shonen stuff, like I"s (which is one of my other obsessions, and the source of my avatar/sig), Video Girl Ai, and DNA2 (well, the anime we got on this one, not the manga). His shonen isn't your basic DBZ/Naruto/Bleach/One Piece fare by any means though (not that I don't like those too), so be sure not to dismiss those just because they're shonen. ;)
Oh, and be warned - Katsura likes his fan-service.
Monster is really nice ^^ Now I buy and read all the series this mangaka make. I just love them!
I knew your pictures were from Zetman ^^ I can find where pictures are from (website)... don't forget I studied computer science 2 years, I'm not a newbie ;)
Volumes not released? In France? lol After Japan, France is the country who buy the most manga! We have more manga here than in the US, than in any other country in the world! (And there are 14 volumes of Zetman released in France now) lol don't worry for me ^^ I already found 10 of them in French and the next 2 in English from free as Ebooks ^^ (We have less scanlations in French than in English, but more manga in shops) I told you, I'm not a newbie. You're talking to the Gloomy Pirate here, man!
I'll see for the shonen manga later. I'll begin with the seinen. And I think you understood me ^^ I don't like so much shonen like Bleach or Naruto... Too long, many battles for... nothing... It's always the same things, so I got bored very quickly. Now that doesn't mean I'll never read them (except DBZ, I never liked it), but I won't buy them! I think I'll even sell my Inuyasha and my few One Piece books... And I'm now a little angry against Higanjima who begin to be a long series. 20 books is good, more than 30 is... too expensive ^^' and I'm afraid it'll become like so many other shonen series. (PS: I read more manga than I watch the anime. For Monster, I watched only the beginning, but read the full manga. Anyway, don't worry, for Monster, the anime follow very closely the story of the manga. More than Death Note, even.)
... I think we should create or revive a thread for the manga/anime fans... :edit: I created one, a long time ago... here it is: http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=2187.0 (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=2187.0)
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Ahh. ;D Sorry if that came off as me treating you like a newbie, I didn't mean to I promise! I just wasn't expecting to find someone so well versed in anime/manga here hehe.
You're lucky because you're right, France gets all the anime/manga that I want, grah! They even got the I"s novelization, though I'm considering buying that for the sheer purpose of having it (even if I can't read it xD; ).
That is what I meant by his 'shonen' stuff not being what you'd think of for shonen though. I"s is a 15 volume romantic-comedy, Video Girl Ai is also 15 volumes of romantic-comedy/sci-fi, and DNA2 is 5 volumes of romantic-comedy/sci-fi. His seinen work is actually more about battles than his shonen ones, LOL! But seinen battles are handled so much differently as you well know, so I think you'll like Zetman (and be sure to let me know what you think of it!)
*goes to the anime/manga thread so as to stop derailing this one*
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Well, I study Japanese, I'm French (and manga are fashion in France), and I'm a pirate... What did you think? ^^
His shonen are exactly the perfect number of volumes ^^ I'll try some of them. Later. I'm already on few things: X-Men (all the comics I can find), Detroit Metal City (manga, seinen), and Love Monster (manga, mature shojo)... and the 4 series I'm taking from the library (4 French series, and only one was translated in English, so you don't know... and won't, except if you come in the French RAFschool, 'coz we'll read French comics there ;) (well, maybe my 4 series are a little mature, so if I have too young students, I'll pick some others...)).
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I would want animated CGI, Avatar style :D
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Sorry, still getting my bearings here, so I didn't know you studied Japanese (that's cool btw). As for the France thing...believe it or not, I am just NOW noticing that little flag near our avatars. xD; I'm not that observant lol.
I'll have to check out that thread too, cuz I'd definitely be interested in seeing/reading about those. I'm 21 so I'm old enough, just have to see who else shows up I guess. :P
Back on topic, maybe we'll get some kind of new show if Animorphs 2.0 goes well. We can hope at any rate, right?
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No problem, Gyt ^^ I knew you didn't know :P For the French comic books, I have few series (4 or 5 I think) in English (I take and keep them for my friends). Frenches and Belgians also make a lot of comic books, and we also have the American comics here, and in fact we translate a lot of things from the other languages to French ^^' so I let you imagine how much choice we have in our book shops and our comic book shops, even if of course everything from the other countries isn't translated =_=' (if you see the Japanese book shops one day... b careful not to have a heart attack nor a stress crisis... it's a way to become allergic to manga...).
Esplin my dear, I'd like too, but I think that'll stay a dream ^^'
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For a tv show, i'd want traditional animation...pretty much in anime/manga style...i'd want it to look kind of like Death Note
For a movie, i'd want live-action
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Yea if they do a movie it'd probably be best to go live action. if they do a TV show then the best way to go is animated
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I think the first show sucked because of budgeting limits, really. I could see the potential.
A show with Avatar-style animation would be beautiful--but expensive. THAT should be saved for movies made out of the Chronicles books. In fact, when I saw Avatar, I kept thinking "Damn, they kinda look like Andalites!"