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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Yorick Brown on July 10, 2008, 11:25:35 AM
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Not just the one in Northern CA where the Animorphs fought.
When the book series was released in 1996, there were 5 billion people plus and counting.
It would have taken years or even decades for yeerks to conquer the human race either completely or enough of a percentage of humans to take over the world with relative ease.
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I'd think it would've been smart to start infesting China and India. Both of them combined have about 1/5 of the world's population, and they probably would've been relatively easy for the Yeerks to infiltrate.
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The books never really committed themselves either way. Their town was the first, but perhaps they were building up, how long would it take for the Sharing to go global.
I'm sure like most of of us I've wondered what it would be like if the invasion was in my hometown, which for me would lead to a sort of Animorphs UK. It may emerge one day as a fanfic.
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As stated in Visser, the Yeerks decided to start with America because it was seen as the most powerful Earth nation. They could have kept going in secret until all or most of the US were Controllers before declaring open war on the rest of the world. Doesn't sound so stupid to me.
It's possible that there were Yeerk forces in other countries, but think about the vast amount of time and resources it would have taken to build an underground Yeerk Pool and an Earth-based Kandrona generator in secret. To do that in multiple in countries would take a long time and be mostly unnecessary since they had access to Kandrona rays on the Pool Ship. And if we assume that the only Earth based Pool was in California, then it wouldn't make sense to start infesting humans in other countries if they had no easy access to Kandrona rays.
EDIT: I like the idea of an Animorphs fic based in the UK though. Good luck with that.
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America, even alien with superior alien technology, making open war on the world? No way. The Yeerks were kind of like the Russians in "Red Dawn." No nuclear attacks because they wanted it intact. Also, a war would easily escalet to nuclear proportions and Yeerks would lose billions of potential hosts.
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And if we assume that the only Earth based Pool was in California, then it wouldn't make sense to start infesting humans in other countries if they had no easy access to Kandrona rays.
Yeah, but why would the Animorphs always say, "Anyone can be a Controller."? I mean, not everyone lives in California.
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Well we know they had worked on some other countries
At least one of the world leaders was already a controller-David Trilogy, and seeing how badly they wanted the CA governor who was running for president in book six, I doubt that the president was it.
America's power was not referring strictly to military, but economic and influential powers. They must have had other pools, but it was centered in California
*yays*?
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russia is a good one.
namely it still heavy courrpt, power rests in the hand of the few, largely modernized, and a lot of resoruces for you to use.
and let's not meantion the nukes that you can through around..
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russia is a good one.
namely it still heavy courrpt, power rests in the hand of the few, largely modernized, and a lot of resoruces for you to use.
and let's not meantion the nukes that you can through around..
Russia wasn't that "corrupt" when Animorphs was written. Before Gorbachev? Definitely. Before Putin? Not so much. You could also argue the largely modernized part because the average Soviet/Russian doesn't have the same technology as the average Frenchman or American, but that's a bit nitpicky and I won't go into it.
But yeah, it would definitely be a Yeerk target. Large amount of territory, natural resources, large population, you name it.
All of these countries are extremely diverse, however. (India has like 25 national languages.) Do any of you think that would pose a problem?
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I've always assumed that Yeerks had small pools in other countries. I mean, Controllers need to travel, too, right? Especially to keep their cover? It would only make sense for the Yeerks to arrange something in the capitol cities of major countries.
I thought it was pretty stupid of the Animorphs to assume that just because someone's been out of the country for more then three days would mean that they aren't controllers. Remember in the final arc, when they trusted that one guy who'd been to France for a week? What if he'd been an important Controller with access to portable Kandrona generators? Or, what if there was a small pool in Paris? They never got any evidence against it.
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It'd be a smart thing for the Yeerks to put Yeerk Pools on each continent...
cover all bases.. lol
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what would they need a pool in Antarctica for?
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what would they need a pool in Antarctica for?
i meant the main ones.......obviousl y.
that is kind of obvious
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Well, I know this isn't exactly stated in the book, but it is very possible that the Chee gave Animorphs information in what exact countries the Yeerks exist as well.. and either France isn't a Yeerk hotspot or the Animorphs were too desperate in the final arc.
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What about France? O_o
Anyway, I think they began in the city where the Animorphs live, but continue around the world for many reasons (some you already said):
- Military aren't concentrated to their city or their state... and they were close to begin a WW3
- They need to travel as Humans for their cover, so they needa have Pools about everywhere, particulary in the big/important cities
- In David trilogy, some Presidents or Prime Ministers must be Controllers... what if they don't have any Yeerk Pool at home? Will they go to the USA every 3 days? lol
- In the last books, Andalites tell to Ax "How can they (the Animorphs) imagine to hurt Yeerks in destroying only ONE Yeerk Pool?!" or something like that: that means there is many Yeerk Pools all around Earth...
(- When they have the Pool Ship, they ask to other ships and I imagined easily there are other ships (not only Bug ships) from other Pools... don't you think?)
I think step by step, they took one city, another and another... China, Japan, Europa, Brasil, Mexico... may be Australia and other ones... The most important places for them.
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What, no Canada? :P (J/K)
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Remember in the final arc, when they trusted that one guy who'd been to France for a week?
I meant this part about France...
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Oh, sorry, yes Canada of course! I'm sure it was the 2nd part after the USA.
I don't remember this part about the guy who went to France O_o which volume? which chapter? ^_^'
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I think that they must have had more than one pool across the United States. The one in California might have been their main one, but to put one in various other important cities would've been a good move on their part. As for globally, I'm not sure. I think that they'd want to conquer America first before spreading, although it's not entirely out of the question.
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Of course, there weren't only one in the USA ^_^' How could they do so many things without many Pools...?
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Two words:
Portable Kandrona! ;D
I'm sure Controllers did have to travel, and for smaller populations in other countries (I'm sure they existed, the U.S. can't be the only country they invaded after all those years) the Controllers probably had smaller pools and individual use Kandrona generators for smaller groups of Yeerks.
I personally have a Yeerk character (and his host) who used to be a leader for public relations in the London branch of The Sharing...before he became a rebel x3 So I love the idea of the invasion in other countries, the possibilities are a lot of fun.
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Yes, I understand... Portable Kandrona can be usefull. But look, portable Kandrona and portable pools aren't very little... and not easy to hide when you take airplanes... you can't put it in your bag ^_^'
And I don't think all the Yeerks can have a portable Kandrona. Only Vissers and Sub-Vissers... but no really more... And now, many people should travel for their work, many people travel for vacations... Imagine you're a little Yeerk who should travel, and have no choice... Will you ask the Visser to give you a portable Kandrona? Will you rent it? And how will you hide it from your host's wife and children?!
Not so easy...
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So, instead of doing that, why not just invest your children and wife and get away with it.? :)
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So, instead of doing that, why not just invest your children and wife and get away with it.? :)
ohh, thats harsh dude... lolz *karma +1*
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I think many of them did it... ^_^' But if you were a Yeerk, would you really like to have a child host? And if you were a Visser, would you really like to have an army of children-Controllers? ;)
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No one suspects the children, right? ;D
I think in #41 Cassie's Yeerk has a briefcase thing with small single use Kandronas...it could work, if you found a small pool to go to, I doubt Yeerks can carry a whole pool with them haha x3
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Well also take into consideration that the yeerks didn't want to take over all of humanity. If you remember when they tried to start WWIII they were planning on letting us nearly wipe us out. They only needed about a billion or so human controllers, they didn't want all of us.
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actually, I don't think it was a billion. I think he said a few million would be enough.
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Yeah, it's true... so you think they just didn't invade the other countries, but wanted to destroy them later? Why not ^_^
(but too late, in my fanfiction they went to England too)
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They probably were like kids in a candy store. So many humans....so little time!
It makes sense that they wouldn't care if many humans were wiped out, but I like to think they wanted to have roots in as many industrialized nations as possible, if nothing else to try and get to their leaders. What's the end goal? To have little to no resistance, and control of military and political power is a good first step. They probably would want more than enough hosts than too few, as well...though lots of humans could be killed and they'd still have plenty...
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They didn't have mass-produced Kandronas until like the late #30s; they woula had to start with pools.
I think they definitely had pools in Cleveland and Columbus, Ohio. ;)
They had to! :)
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They didn't have mass-produced Kandronas until like the late #30s; they woula had to start with pools.
Well...we never saw them until the #30s, that doesn't mean they weren't there, theoretically x3
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Not just the one in Northern CA where the Animorphs fought.
When the book series was released in 1996, there were 5 billion people plus and counting.
It would have taken years or even decades for yeerks to conquer the human race either completely or enough of a percentage of humans to take over the world with relative ease.
Why did Visser 3 choose that particular city for his main base? Why didn't he move his main base when he ran into opposition from the Animorphs?
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They already pretty much explained this in the books, that Edriss specifically chose the U.S. as a starting point as that's where the concentration of power was. She chose L.A. as a starting point due to all being the major communications/broadcast hub and found a sort of more manageable satellite area around the general vicinity (I guess just any average mid-sized common California city/big town) to lay roots in.
So, there probably wasn't a situation of multiple little Yeerk operations nationwide, the plan seemed to be "slowly take the U.S., once that nation has a foot on its throat, expand forcefully".
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They already pretty much explained this in the books, that Edriss specifically chose the U.S. as a starting point as that's where the concentration of power was. She chose L.A. as a starting point due to all being the major communications/broadcast hub and found a sort of more manageable satellite area around the general vicinity (I guess just any average mid-sized common California city/big town) to lay roots in.
So, there probably wasn't a situation of multiple little Yeerk operations nationwide, the plan seemed to be "slowly take the U.S., once that nation has a foot on its throat, expand forcefully".
But why didn't Visser 3 move his base when the Animorph attacks began?
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I boggle at the fact that the Mighty Yeerk Empire couldn't arrange to smuggle a portable Kandrona generator to Tom when he had to leave town for 4 days to attend his grandfather's funeral! (The Conspiracy, IIRC).
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Me too. Hell, they could have just followed him, and switched Yeerks one night if he couldn't get a PKM. his should not be such a crisis that plan B, after just begging to stay, is to do a drive-by shooting on Tom's dad.
Not to mention that, because of imcompetence on the enemy's fault, Jake blew the best opportunity to save Tom since book 1. Maybe not handing tom over on a silver platter, but still. It was an idiot plot, and probably my leats favorite book.
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As stated in Visser, the Yeerks decided to start with America because it was seen as the most powerful Earth nation. They could have kept going in secret until all or most of the US were Controllers before declaring open war on the rest of the world. Doesn't sound so stupid to me.
It's possible that there were Yeerk forces in other countries, but think about the vast amount of time and resources it would have taken to build an underground Yeerk Pool and an Earth-based Kandrona generator in secret. To do that in multiple in countries would take a long time and be mostly unnecessary since they had access to Kandrona rays on the Pool Ship. And if we assume that the only Earth based Pool was in California, then it wouldn't make sense to start infesting humans in other countries if they had no easy access to Kandrona rays.
I would build lots of mini-Pools for the Yeerk agents in other countries.
I would seek to infest the United Nations. The infested UN ambassadors would then infest all the national leaders!