Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Chad32 on July 03, 2008, 05:40:48 PM
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About the only way a wolf can take down a Hork-Bajir is ripping its throat out and killing it. Sometimes I wonder why she didn't choose something that could have dealt with enemies without killing them.
Does anyone else sometimes wonder if a different battle morph might suit some of the Animorphs better?
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I'm surprised that none of them chose lion, jaguar, or polar bear for frequent use. Wolf is nice, but it isn't very versatile for combat.
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well actually david chose lion.
and I believe the thing about cassie and her wolf morph was mentioned not only in RAF classic, but also in new RAF.
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well actually david chose lion.
and I believe the thing about cassie and her wolf morph was mentioned not only in RAF classic, but also in new RAF.
If you could link to a thread like that, I'd appreciate it.
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hmm...ok...maybe I was mistaken. false alarm. I cannot find that thread.
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I liked that they morphed rhino that one time, but that would've made a bad a** recurring morph. Hippos are pretty nasty too, but they don't have the same kinda image. They're just lazy and wear pink tutus, right? x3;
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I'm surprised that none of them chose lion, jaguar, or polar bear for frequent use. Wolf is nice, but it isn't very versatile for combat.
Jaguar was a Sario Rip morph, but they may have been able to acquire it at The Gardens. Polar bear wasn't very practical because they would easily overheat, especially if they lived in Southern California.
I think they stuck with their battle morphs because they were the most familiar with them and there wasn't a need to change them.
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I'm surprised that none of them chose lion, jaguar, or polar bear for frequent use. Wolf is nice, but it isn't very versatile for combat.
I dont think we can say the wolf isn't versatile. There's a lot a wolf can do. Plus its fast, which was a point made in the RAF Classic (I remember Morfowt). So if anyone is capable of escaping and being quick, it would be the wolf.
Im sure there is a reason why KA made the wolf Cassie's personal battle morph.
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I always wondered about the wolf... But I think that morph does suit Cassie..
to quote Russell.. aka Esplin 9466:
"She's a lame fighter so gets a lame battle morph" Well I think thats right anyways.
Shes not really into the whole fighting thing, and if she was the tiger or bear for example, it wouldn't have made much difference anyway.
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I thought that Cassie's wolf morph gave them some nice versatility in their arsenal. Remember in #37 when they all went for power as polar bears and ended up trapped? The wolf morph gives them someone fast and agile on ground, who doesn't tire for long distances. Plus, wolves are great at tracking if they're chasing something or someone in particular. It was lame in terms of raw power, but I think it was a good choice to have for a battle morph in the group.
Of course, if they could still morph T-Rexs from MM#2, then they would simply just pwn everything in sight. :P
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Of course, if they could still morph T-Rexs from MM#2, then they would simply just pwn everything in sight. :P
Oh hell yes, imagine that!
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Actually, I was the one who made the same thread as you, Daphnes. :)
And for once, I totally agree with you! Why not morph jaguar or something like the wolf, only powerful? I mean, wolves are great, but not for the cage matches their battles usually come to.... most often at the latter arcs.
A wolf is good for tracking, for escape, and as a travel morph alternative for birds. In the battle group, the wolf morph provides squat to the groups's versatility.
A wolf is good at running distances, GOOD FOR ESCAPING. Sure, but why would you escape when all your other friends are in jeopardy? Don;t they need your firepower instead?
A wolf is good for tracking. WannaTeeFree? The Enemy is in your face! What's there to track?
The tiger is already agile enough.
The bear is already there for strength.
The gorilla is already nimble.
Ax doesn't need to morph.
The hawk provides hindsight.
If she doesn't really want to fight much, then maybe... let her just morph the skunk and blast of the scent to his foes! That's even more deadly esp. to the fact that Taxxons and Hork-Bajir have an enhanced sense of smell.... ;)
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^Yeah, they probably should've used skunk more.
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If you think about it, Cassie is usually the one who ends up with the 'morph to end all morphs' in a given situation. She uses the bird-turn-into-a-whale-and-drag-the-enemy-down technique TWICE (H-B Chronicles and MM #1), for instance. Perhaps she chose her morph for its ability to get away, in case she had to storm back in with something SERIOUS later on, to bail the others out (it HAS happened...).
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If you think about it, Cassie is usually the one who ends up with the 'morph to end all morphs' in a given situation. She uses the bird-turn-into-a-whale-and-drag-the-enemy-down technique TWICE (H-B Chronicles and MM #1),
she also tried that in #39, but in vain this time.
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If you think about it, Cassie is usually the one who ends up with the 'morph to end all morphs' in a given situation. She uses the bird-turn-into-a-whale-and-drag-the-enemy-down technique TWICE (H-B Chronicles and MM #1), for instance. Perhaps she chose her morph for its ability to get away, in case she had to storm back in with something SERIOUS later on, to bail the others out (it HAS happened...).
yeah whats up with that, its happended quite alot with cassie, i think when you say HBC though you mean number 34 cause she wasnt in the HBC.
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If she doesn't really want to fight much, then maybe... let her just morph the skunk and blast of the scent to his foes! That's even more deadly esp. to the fact that Taxxons and Hork-Bajir have an enhanced sense of smell.... ;)
Yeah, a skunk would be good. It would have been great for incapacitating enemies without physically harming them. Seemingly perfect for Cassie.
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the problem, I doubt skunks can run that fast.
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the problem, I doubt skunks can run that fast.
Maybe not, but they're small and can be carried if the group needs to move quickly.
The only thing I'd be conscerned with is her running out of spray. If she ever did, she wouldn't be much use at all.
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cause she wasnt in the HBC.
*swats self on head*...
*face-palm, for good measure*
Thank you. ;D
We all have days like this.
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Lol you guys just love to hate on Cassie. She chose the wolf morph, its over and done. I personally wish she had acquired that leopard in #19 The Departure. That would be awesome
A wolf can do many things. Its not just good for escaping, although that does come in handy. Wolves aren't agile? Riiiittee. Sure a wolf cant kill with the raw power of a tiger, bear, or gorilla, but guess what? Thats the whole point. Its NOT a tiger, bear, or gorilla. The animals they morphed fit their persona.
Besides, its not like she never took down her share of Hork-Bajir and Taxxons. She did her damage.
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I don't hate cassie. actually I don't hate anybody in Animorphs except the helmacrons.
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Lol you guys just love to hate on Cassie. She chose the wolf morph, its over and done. I personally wish she had acquired that leopard in #19 The Departure. That would be awesome
A wolf can do many things. Its not just good for escaping, although that does come in handy. Wolves aren't agile? Riiiittee. Sure a wolf cant kill with the raw power of a tiger, bear, or gorilla, but guess what? Thats the whole point. Its NOT a tiger, bear, or gorilla. The animals they morphed fit their persona.
Besides, its not like she never took down her share of Hork-Bajir and Taxxons. She did her damage.
YOU!
you get a prize; couldn't have said it better myself
cept for that first bad: I shall continue to hate on Cassie, and I will enjoy doing so
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I believe Cassie herself mentions in book 37 about them all using different battle morphs so that the team can be more versatile in a fight. In the same book, they charged into a building all as Polar Bears and barely made it out. This isn't because of the Polar Bear morph, but because there was no variety in their fighting. What if a situation required hands? (eg. using a Dracon beam) Ax and Marco are then capable of doing something about it. All their morphs have strengths and weaknesses.
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Yea the key is definately a good mix, to be adaptable for any situation. Even if the wolf has a lot of weaknesses, its got strengths, mainly endurance. When they are in those long fights the others wear out quick and she can keep going, and she can book it across the battle and come to someones aid alot faster than anyone else.
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I forgot, wolves have a great sense of smell.... canines rule! Just for the added thought.
I didn't say wolves aren't agile. Its just that felines surpass canines in the agility department... :)
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Jake's "feline" also has a couple hundred pounds of Siberian tiger on Cassie. He's also 10 feet long. I'd say Cassie was the more agile one.
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Bears' noses are hundreds of times better than canine noses, actually. In the nose department, bigger is better.
As agility goes, you are comparing apples to oranges. Seriously.
Canine muscle and feline muscle are designed in completely different ways. Cat muscle is designed to react instantly, almost reflexively, to the tiniest stimulus, with immense power. It expends all its energy all at once, so the cat has almost zero endurance over a long time.
Dog muscle is designed to be quick and strong, but most of all, it retains the maximum possible energy. It is made for long-term efficiency, to give the dog optimum stamina. It isn't as powerful or fast as a cat, pound for pound, but it CAN outlast the cat...if it survives long enough.
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so do elephants have the best sense of smell. it looks like the biggest and longest noses.
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Doesn't QUITE work that way. Yes, their smell-sense is amazing, but bears and vultures have it better than anything else. Elephants aren't meat-eaters, you see. Anything that eats meat will automatically be better at FINDING it. Prey animals and basic-herbivores are usually better with hearing and periferal vision, to avoid ambush.
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I felt that the only Animorph that needed a different battle morph was Tobias. Yes. His hawk morph was good at telling people to watch out but Ax could do that and the only thing Tobias could really do in direct conflict was rake some eyes and then fly away.
He should have used a crocodile or a komodo dragon or something for battle.
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Well remember, more often then not they needed their "eye in the sky" to inform them of when reinforcements were coming in and whatnot. And keep in mind Tobias had the Hork morph he used on more then one occassion.
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You arent giving a good eye rake its credit lol blinding an opponent is extremely useful, especially when they are fighting one of the others, and yea his eye in the sky was extremely useful in pretty much every situation, someone needs to be able to see the bigger picture to find escape routes, weaknesses, places they are being closed in, and jake cant do that with a face full of hork haha
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I think Tobias should have done Ax in battle more, it's ridiculous how long they got away with having only one Andalite in the fight in a group of "Andalite bandits"
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A Hork-Bajir morph would have been too confusing in battle.
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I wonder why they don't switch to different animals for different missions, you know, so that they yeerks would think there are lots of them. Using only those 6 over and over again is too obvious ::)
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You arent giving a good eye rake its credit lol blinding an opponent is extremely useful, especially when they are fighting one of the others, and yea his eye in the sky was extremely useful in pretty much every situation, someone needs to be able to see the bigger picture to find escape routes, weaknesses, places they are being closed in, and jake cant do that with a face full of hork haha
It isn't that the hawk form is literally useless, and yes there are situations where a aerial view was useful, but there were plenty of times where they prepared to go into battle and knew that what they needed was pure muscle and no particularly strategy beyond 'fight and make it through alive' and a lot of animals could have been better than staying hawk. Not only is 'eye raking' a lot more temporary of a distraction than something to take each enemy out of the battle, but in any realistic setting a hawk that is making a regular habit of raking the eyes of a Hork-Bajir or even a human should have gotten killed or knocked senseless then killed by a solid punch before too long.
I agree that Cassie could have done better than a wolf too. Again, it isn't useless, but she could have certainly gone with something more powerful and tougher without sacrificing 'versatility' and honestly, ripping something's throat out is an awfully intimate way to kill something for someone who finds the killing that distasteful, something that could kill at arm's length would have been less psychologically damaging so I don't agree that it fit her well even if that was the author's intent.
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Perhaps Cassie never wanted to acquire a battle morph because that would be acknowledging that she was using an animal's DNA with the specific intent of using it to kill? With the wolf, it was initially for travel.