Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Gumby on January 18, 2010, 05:35:46 PM
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I was thinking today, and I must say soemthing about the humans vs yeerks. I was thinking about what would have happened if the humans had gone to war agaisnt the yeerks, openly, with no Andalites coming for sometime. I believe the yeerks would regret the war completely. The initial battles would be won by Yeerks, due to advanced technology, bug fighters and such, but they have several problem
1. The yeerk force is only a task force, not a invasion force. They only have about probably twenty-thirty thousand HB and human controllers, tops. The taxxons would be little threat, as they are easily dispatched as would the gedds.
2. Firepower. From what I've seen in the books, yeerk ground forces would be woafully underarmed, as all they seem to have is mainly hand held dracon beams, not ideal for open combat. They have some heavier weapons as well, the Venbers dracon assault cannons and the 'lincoln memorial on a swivel mount' Tobias saw. They seem to have no room clearing weapons liek grenades, though Aldrea in the HB chronicles does mention something like quantum explosives or something like that. Us humans on the other hand, have more guns that the entire bloody yeerk empire! We have long range weapon and sniper capable of popping HB melons (heads) at a kilometer away! We have grenades, mortars, tanks and such. While tanks could be stopped with a well placed dracon blast, one abrams cannon round could tear twenty HBs to shreds, and a taxxon assault force of two hundred could be decimated entirely by a marine squad with M-16s and a fifty calibre machine gun.
3. Air support. While bug fighters have shields and dracon beams and such, they are not made for atmosphere. Our fighters can do mach 4 and over in atmosphere, and have formidable armnanents. Missiles can be shot down, but sidewidners at close range would be impossible to catch in time. Since yeerk fighters operate on line of sight in air-to-air combat, we could definately level the field with thirty mm vulcan chain guns and such. While the bugs have shields, they couldn't take 30 mm super dense depleted uranium rounds in they would quickly wear down and then the fighter would be torn to bits. Other than bugs, the yeerks have no real gunships or anything, except for a mention of 'skimmers' in book 18 which I presume are their version of tanks, or mobile artillery. We have apache longbow gunships which could easily turn a yeerk force into paste with their flying arsenal. And, the estimated number of fighters the yeerks have is maybe one hundred, probably lower. We have thousands so we would win through sheer quanity anyway. As for the bladeship, it could cause huge damage, but could be destroyed by a couple dozen SAMs (Surface to Air Missiles)
All these things aside, think of it. Earth would turn int oa hellhole one hundred tiems worse than the HB homeworld ever was or could have been. Think, one thousand andalites and 700 HB warriors caused the yeerks so much greif and destruction. Us, with milions of soldiers, and the fact we are brutal and crazy in battle, would turn earth into ta meat grinder for yeerks. Also, about 20% of humanity would call the yeerks demons and go on a hoyl war against them. Think, the yeerks would have to engage in things like urban and jungle warfare, the most brutal types of war imaginable. building to building, house to house. It would be such a slaughter for them that instead of strengthening them, they would send in dozens of ships to earth and weaken their front everywhere else, allowing an Andalite breakthrough.
So in fact earth may have become their undoing.
Not to say we would suffer too though, millions of civilians would die. This would terrify some to submission, others to revenge, or others to hiding. So Earth vs Yeerks in full scale open warfare would turn earth into a slaughter hosue for yeerks everywhere.
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I would still say the Yeerks would win. We can't argue with space based weaponry. Even if we could eliminate every Yeerk on Earth, they could just blast our cities from the upper atmosphere with those giant ship-based dracons.
Even then, we would only be able to over-run the land based force via sheer numbers. You forget though, not every human on earth is trained for combat, and every single one of them would have no idea what is going on. 99.9% of the human population would be essentially useless, you and I included. Even if someone was extremely capable of combat and trained with many vehicles, they'd still be unaware of the nature of Yeerks, and just get shot by who they thought was their neighbor.
Remember in #54 when Doubleday's men, with all their tanks and jets and helicopters were basically brushed aside like nothing, even toyed with by the Visser? It would take a dozen of the best fighter jets, or more, just to overwhelm one bug fighter, and that's no help when a blade ship will just annihilate the aircraft carriers instantly. The bug fighters can and do handle atmosphere, and they're far more maneuverable at high speeds than our jets.
You're comparing brute numbers, and assuming the humans are aware of Yeerks and will have time to plan and mobilize. The Yeerks know about Humans, and not the other way around. How hard would it be for a handful of bug fighters to come down and destroy the primary weapons depots and military bases before anyone even knows what's going on? The only thing we've got that can do massive damage and have time to prepare would be the nuclear ICBM's, as they are hidden and many are in subs in the middle of the ocean. There's only a couple problems though - we can't put them into space before they can be shot down by a dracon, and shooting them over Earth in any threatening number would hurt humanity just as much as them. Millions won't die; billions will.
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Millions won't die; billions will.
but wouldn't that be a blow to the yeerks? what's the point of open war if they only get a few hundred thousand bodies out of it?
on a related note, if it's just open war, the yeerks would win. remember ax said in #28 that the yeerk dracon beams in orbit could ignite the atmosphere and incinerate all life on the planet, though that's not practical for them... in other words, if the yeerks just wanted to win without thinking about what they'd gain, they'd win without batting an eye...
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I'm talkig open warfare over control of humanity, not simply genocide. no, not a dozen jets per bug fighter. At those be three speeds, they could only eliminate two or maybe three before it was close enough for chain guns and sidewinders.
not billions, only missions. As said in megamorphs 4, the ellimist stated that millions would die before victory. As for the poolship, if it descended into atmosphere for reasons, such as the yeerk pool exploding it could be destroyed by a tactical nuke. doubeldays forces didn't have anything to attack the pool ship, they were only prepped for ground combat. The pool ship can only be one place at a time anyway. The animorphs could warn the president and all, and inform the public of the attack. Yes, controllers would spark inside fighting. As I said before, it would be a meatgrinder, like stalingrad. The bladeship, could be severly damaged i believe from an experimental Rail gun shooting super dense slugs at hgih rate of speeds. Anyway, if we nuked the pool ship and the yeerk pool, that would be victory in three days, at least until they gotreinforcements in. And with the z-space rift, that could tank months easily.
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this got me thinking... could a pool ship actually survive a nuclear explosion? it seems possible with the kind of force field the yeerks have, but no matter how I imagine it, it seems weird...
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I think we could definitely outlast the yeerks just by the sheer numbers and the fact that we will never quit. Even if they level every major city in the world it will turn into gorilla warfare when they actually try to come down and take hosts. And if we are aware of their need for kandrona we'll definitely be able to take that out eventually. We have the firepower to send thousands of nukes at their pool ship if we had to.
It will be absolutely devastating for the human race but Visser One recognized early on that that kind of war would be completely ineffective against a species like ours. The only threat we'd face would be if the yeerks finally give up and decide to pull out, they'd obviously torch the atmosphere on their way out the door. Once they finally admit they cant win the war and get us as hosts, why not burn us all out of spite lol
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Even if they level every major city in the world it will turn into gorilla warfare when they actually try to come down and take hosts.
We're going to fight with gorillas? :P
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I'm kind of iffy about this. I really think it would take too much to actually defeat them. I know it's a strain for them to have forces on the ground without a ground base, and guarding any ground base would require effort on the Yeerk's part, but unless we can make the pool ship or blade ship land and infiltrate it, I don't think we would ever win. They would just wear us down. Even if they killed five billion Humans, they would still have one or two billion to go around.
I think our chances of winning are very low, especially since the main and possibly only reason V1 wanted quiet infiltration was just to help ensure Darwin and Madra weren't killed. Not because she was afraid the Humans could really win. We are class five, not four.
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but who defines whether we're class 5 or 4? the yeerks. how do the yeerks know what species is too powerful (class 4) and what species isn't (class 5)? there are different kinds of strengths after all...
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Well it's based on population size, how suitable they are for infestation, and how easy it would be to take over. Since the Yeerks have more advanced technology, and most humans are not aware of the existance of aliens, it would be considerably easier to take over the Human race than Andalites.
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Even if they level every major city in the world it will turn into gorilla warfare when they actually try to come down and take hosts.
We're going to fight with gorillas? :P
You do know what forum you're on right?
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lol
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Remember, the blade ship CAN shoot down missiles with its dracon beams. but twenty SAMs coming at it? No way. Especially since it appears the bladeships cannons require line of sight to hit anything, they don't have 360 protection.
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We have one big advantage, though.
They want us alive. We want them dead.
That implies that we'd be able to do more mass destruction to them, as it's our bodies not our "unobtanium" that's so valuable. They kill too many of us, it's a total waste. And the Yeerks lack mind-control software or anything but advanced weapon technology...so humanity defiantly would be able to prolong the war, if not win it.
I think that the difference between Class 4 and Class 5, by the way, is the technology that the race has. Andalites with human technology would probably be a class 5 too.
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I believe I said before that even if they killed five billion people, there would still be enough to go around. So they fact that they want us alive doesn't really matter. They could destroy all of Earth's superpowers and there would still be enough survivors to enslave. Not the best case scenario for them, but it would still help their war efforts.
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But even if we were left with 0 military we'd all run into the jungle with spears and rocks, we would never stop fighting, they wouldn't get a viable number of people to surrender once word got out exactly what you'd be surrendering to. Even after they killed 5 billion theres no reason for the other billion to surrender.
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Except for all the people who did surrender and become voluntary for one reason or another. Not everyone is diehard. Not everyone keeps fighting and never surrenders.
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Also, for the bladeships shields. I believs could destroye a couple rail gun shot it, seeing as the shields were penetrated, and the bridge was cut off by Elfangor simply ramming it.
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but how do the yeerks know how inferior technology is inferior enough? cavemen weapons, sure they'd be class 5. nuclear weapons, I'm not 100% convinced
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Nuclear weapons that can't hit something in space quickly or easily without being shot down... Nuclear weapons that are a waste due to collateral damage to use on blade ships over cities... The big ICBM's can penetrate atmosphere, I believe, and if not we can make them, but they wouldn't be accurate or fast enough to reach the Yeerk mothership in space without getting gunned down by dracons. The nukes wouldn't help us much. They're designed for massive all-at-once damage to distant land areas, like cities. Not for hitting aerial targets or targets in space.
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We could go Independence day style, steal a bug, load it with ten megatons of death and fly it into the mother ship under the leadership of a former controller. Then blow it all to hell.
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We could go Independence day style, steal a bug, load it with ten megatons of death and fly it into the mother ship under the leadership of a former controller. Then blow it all to hell.
Thats a very good tactic, Im sure when all the crap has hit the fan, remaining viable options like this one would beckon.
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No, I'm serious. We could probably capture a bug fighter and starve the yeerk our of a controller-pilot and load the fighter with a nuke. The controller could use fly the figter and give the right ID codes and all to dock. Then KA-BOOM!
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You guys are forgetting the biggest advantage the Yeerks have here. They're not just invading aliens with vastly superior technology- these are Yeerks. They go with the silent underground invasion because they can, and because it's their nature. They're not predators; they're parasites. Even if open war with the Yeerk forces did erupt, they'd continue enslaving humanity and trying to get their people into positions of power. They'd try to capture people and send them right back to our side, to act as spies and to sabotage our efforts. There'd be no way to defend against this, and even in open war you could never be sure that the guy sitting next to you is really still on your side. Even if humans set up an attack on a Yeerk facility or ship, it could all go to Hell if there's even one Controller remotely involved on the human side. Even if the last remnants of humanity ran into the jungle to fight the Yeerks with rock and sticks, there's still no way of knowing who's on your side. Aside from being an extremely dangerous situation, I imagine this would be incredibly demoralizing to any human resistance.
Resistance falls apart when everyone has to assume everyone else is a potential enemy. Divided we fall. I don't think humanity would stand a chance. We might fight openly, but there's no way the Yeerks would if they could help it.
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We could set up regulations and all. You know, the three day rule. With former controllers help, we could exploit yeerk secrets, boost our technology up a bit, and probably make scanners to detect yeerks in brains, or to pick up Kandrona particles, stuff like that.
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I can see most of your points, but I honestly don't think the humans stand a chance. At the most, humans may be able to prevent themselves from falling victim to Yeerk servitude. But I believe that would come at the cost of the planet Earth.
We know that Yeerks are not just body snatchers, they are destroyers of worlds. They have no qualms in destroying all of the resources a planet has to offer. Run into the jungle? They'll burn the jungle to the ground.
The Yeerks have a built in instinct that is radically different from human's and just as dangerous. Where humans do not know when to stop and admit defeat, Yeerks will quit when all is lost. This means that if they recognize no possible chance of defeating Earth they will abandon it. They will salvage the human Controllers that they have managed to obtain and use their technology to ignite Earth's atmosphere, or destroy all major cities so that humanity does not become a space faring threat in the future.
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I think it would be possible to win-at the cost of billions of lives.
We would need to adapt yeerk technology as quickly as possible, and ask for aid from other face spearing species.
invent technology that detects controller dom
use a de-centralised guerrilla army (ie each country or nation or even pre-existing terrorist organisations) rahter than a centralised superpower army.
capture yeerk ships ASAP to prevent the eventual Yeerks-destroy-earths-atmosphere scenario.
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so one question.
if open war is so much more attractive than underground invasion, how come the Council of 13 was never bright enough to notice? I mean, given they are parasites and stuff, but they are also brutal and logical.
However, I do believe that the underground invasion favored the Animorphs also because they were able to do infiltrating of their own. The Animorphs did more than enough by themselves.
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The Yeerks were after our bodies- I believe silent invasion was the right choice for them, simply because humans would die by the billions rather than become enslaved. Sure, in my opinion they would have stomped us in all-out war, but how many hosts would they have lost? We're nearly as valuable to them as we are to us. The main difference is that they're more than willing to sacrifice the Earth to get at us. Oh, and, like Terenia's saying, if they do lose here, they'd have no problem just wiping us out. War with the Yeerks is interesting because they're after more than our destruction- they have to take as many of us as possible alive.
Yeah, the silent invasion definitely favored the Animorphs. I can't imagine them having been all that important to the war if it took place in the open, and a fair amount of the Yeerk resources were spent trying to cover up what the Animorphs had done. Good thing they were only invading one one front, eh? A second Yeerk Pool in New Hampshire or wherever would have kicked Earth's butt.
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i wonder why the Yeerks didn't open more fronts. was it inconvenient? would it have drained resources? did they just not have enough Yeerks?
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Maybe they just have a great feel for what makes an intense and dramatic book series about a resistance composed only of six kids :P
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so one question.
if open war is so much more attractive than underground invasion, how come the Council of 13 was never bright enough to notice? I mean, given they are parasites and stuff, but they are also brutal and logical.
However, I do believe that the underground invasion favored the Animorphs also because they were able to do infiltrating of their own. The Animorphs did more than enough by themselves.
The simple answer to that is Visser One. Edriss orchestrated the entire invasion on Earth and it was her decision to make it a silent, underground invasion. She was the expert, and the Council trusted her to make the decision that was in favor of a Yeerk success. After Visser Three took charge he did repeatedly try to change it to an open war, but the council did not trust him as much as they trusted Visser One.
EDIT: It should also be noted that Edriss did not choose silent warfare because it would best aid the Yeerks. Initially, perhaps it was a strong war tactic, but it became obvious later on that open war would be more beneficial. However, she continued to petition for infiltration due to her own personal interests, not the interests of the Yeerk Empire.
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I'm just saying, an open war here would make earth a hell hole for yeerks and humans alike.
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so one question.
if open war is so much more attractive than underground invasion, how come the Council of 13 was never bright enough to notice? I mean, given they are parasites and stuff, but they are also brutal and logical.
However, I do believe that the underground invasion favored the Animorphs also because they were able to do infiltrating of their own. The Animorphs did more than enough by themselves.
The simple answer to that is Visser One. Edriss orchestrated the entire invasion on Earth and it was her decision to make it a silent, underground invasion. She was the expert, and the Council trusted her to make the decision that was in favor of a Yeerk success. After Visser Three took charge he did repeatedly try to change it to an open war, but the council did not trust him as much as they trusted Visser One.
EDIT: It should also be noted that Edriss did not choose silent warfare because it would best aid the Yeerks. Initially, perhaps it was a strong war tactic, but it became obvious later on that open war would be more beneficial. However, she continued to petition for infiltration due to her own personal interests, not the interests of the Yeerk Empire.
Yeah, agreed on the hellhole thing. Regardless of Edriss' motivation, I still believe a silent invasion to be the right choice for the Yeerks in taking Earth, given their situation. There was a shortage of hosts in the empire, which humanity could help alleviate. Their resources appear to be spread fairly thin. How many Hork-Bajir and Taxxons would the empire lose in an open war? Sure, they can burn our cities from orbit, but they still have to capture humans alive, and that requires putting their people in harm's way. The resources the Yeerks would need to sustain an open war with humanity might not be available due to the war with the Andalites.
Then you've got to consider the payoff. True, a few million hosts would be huge to the empire, and help them sustain their power, but it doesn't give them any huge advantage over the Andalites. In open war, a billion human hosts seems like an exceptionally generous estimate. If the Yeerks manage to take all six-billion-plus humans, they become unstoppable; even the Andalites would have no chance. If they attempted to take Earth by force, I think they'd need a much higher concentration of troops here, possibly bringing the brunt of the Andalite military down on this invasion and effectively crushing the empire.
She may have been trying to save her children, but in my opinion, Edriss' decision to invade Earth silently would have saved the empire as well, without the interference of the Animorphs.
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well, even if the Yeerks conquered Earth it would still take years to recover from devastation and than more years to turn Earth into a viable economic industry that would be able to fight the Andalites. Even if Earth was captured, it would take some time to arm the Human-controllers, build extra Kandrona Rays for more Yeerks, commit forces to peace-keeping and prevent revolutions (police keeping in effect), update human tech to match theirs and the Andalites, and prevent external factors from overwhelming Yeerk desires.
It actually may have been better than to eliminate at least half the humans (and even then, 3 billion people to contain when you don't have enough Yeerks is still too much).
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excactly! full scale war on a multi-billion member species, a species which is very experianced in wars and with reasonable, and devadtating technology, would take huge bundles of resources from the Andalite campaign.
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I think we could win, but in the struggle, the yeerks might cause the extinction of all those species that are preserved in zoos/special breeding programs, such as Pandas, bilbies etc, as humans redirected resources to fighting yeerks.
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if we won, it might not be a victory after all. we might have taxed earth so much by the end of the war that its resources would be spent.
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shielded shields are very good at shielding people who need to be shielded
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lol sorry, I didn't mean to be pedantic I just love redundancies that are redundant and repeat themselves.
TAUTOLOGY!
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Yes, you want to be sure to edit the sentences that you wrote after you primarily wrote them for the first time.
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Yes, but as this is a war to capture us and our planet, Esplin WOULDN'T just torch the planet. Yes, they could fry our computers. However shielded bug fighters and the bladeship are all forward firing, if the blade ship was attacked from multiple directions by SAMs, that'd be over rather fast. Like I said, even if you have Bio scanners and such, when you fidn the humans you still have to go down there and get them. Urban warfare would be hell for Hork bajir and taxxons anyway. And us being humans, would probably eventually nuke the yeerks, us, and the planet to radioactive grit.
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Even if the military were allowed to remain functional and given a fighting chance against against the Yeerk fleet, I don't think humans would stand a chance. Whenever the Animorphs wind up in a Bug Fighter, we see how fast they can haul butt. I don't think a SAM could hit a Yeerk spacecraft. Even if it did, we don't really have any idea how protective shields on these ships are. A Dome Ship is described as being able to "blow chunks off a planet." I'm not up for calculations at the moment, but even small chunks require their Shredders to impart tremendous energy to the planet in order to accelerate them to escape velocity. It's probably a safe assumption that Dome Ship shields are designed to withstand similar firepower. The Blade Ship annihilated a Dome Ship in just a few shots in the battle over Earth at the beginning of the series. Blade Ship shields are probably capable of shrugging off firepower in that range. What I'm getting at here is that I don't think any amount of SAM's are going to hurt Yeerk equipment if they're ready for it. You could probably nuke the Blade Ship directly and it would just shrug it off. That is, if you could even hit them.
That said, yeah, you'd lose a heck of a lot of human hosts in an open war. It all depends on the goals of the Yeerk invasion.
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well. the thing here is to use some stolen Protoss technology. I mean yeah, we have outdated siege tanks, but the new battlecruisers should be able to withstand nukes themselves, and indeed, in beta testing I think they do. Grab a few battlecruisers, and match mobility with the Vikings.
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I doubt a bladeship could take a nuke. It was never hit by the dome ships cannons anyway, it got the first blow in. If the andalites hit the bladeship it would be finished. Stund or not, the yeerks still must hit the humans while under fire. And another thing, I've never seen a yeerk dracon rifle or anything. Just the dracon beams and assault cannons which are to heavy to be used by hork-bajir. We have hundreds of weapons. EMP or not, heat-seeking missiels would still follow the heat of the bladeship and smoke it. The blade ship could only go oh-so fast in atmosphere, as one look at its desing clearly shows it is not designed for atmospheric flight.
I doubt the council would allow the destruction of several billion potential hosts. how would the yeerks know the location of every SAM or missiel sight? They don't have those secrets. Some yes, but not all. If the yeerks could make their hand-helds go on a wide-spread mode, they'd have probably used it against the andlaites laready.
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I doubt a bladeship could take a nuke.
how about a hundred nukes? how about all the nations aiming their entire nuclear arsenal and launching it all at the same target?
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And hitting it? Do you guys remember in book 11 when the Animorphs fly the bug fighter? They're seen, and the military scrambles jets to intercept, and then in the bug fighter, they just take off, out of the atmosphere, so fast the jets don't even have time to react. The bug fighter they fly in book 45 behaves in a similar way, but is also capable of traveling underwater. At well over supersonic speed, I might add. I mean, that's speed and maneuverability (and durability) that even the best missiles of today can't come close to matching. And those bug fighters are about as aerodynamic as a brick. If the Blade Ship has similar capabilities, there's no way you could even hit it with a nuke (nukes aren't exactly the pinnacle of maneuverable missile technology), and even then its shield strength is up for debate. I don't think humanity would have a chance of surviving an open war. Avoiding the majority of people becoming infested, maybe, but at the cost of the entire race, one way or another.
As for the handheld Dracons- maybe that's all they need. Think about it- if you could keep the design of a pistol, but incorporate all the accuracy and stopping power of a rifle, you'd probably take the smaller gun, right? It seems to me that handheld Dracons far outclass anything the humans can offer in the way of handheld weaponry- let's face it, you're not going to be vaporizing people with no ammo limit if all you've got is an M16. Why bother with a big, clunky Dracon rifle when the little handheld guns are practically too much firepower already?
I think the Yeerks would be stupid to face humanity in open conflict, but I don't think it's because they'd have trouble winning the war.
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I'll post more tomorrow, but I just gonna say a few things now.
A hand held dracon beam would still be hard to aim accurately over long distances. They have no scoop or zoom system, while we could blow them away at ease with out baretts.
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That's one thing that weirded me out with animorphs. In book 17, they spent 6 weeks or so digging a tunnel to dump in oatmeal. If I was one of them, I'd dump in poison or something.
As I said, heat-seeking missiles would be able to lock on to yeerk ships, EPM or no EMP.
That'd be an interesting urban battle though. a suqad of blue band hork-bajir against a SAS or Delta team. Yes, dracon beams may also be accurate, but so are our weapons and we've got some pretty sweet gunners. Both weapons kill, though we'd maybe want to up the size of our military ammo from 5.56 rounds to to soemthing bigger like 7.62 rounds.
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how do you know it's heat signature? Oh, and yes Delta or SAS would be freaked, but what would they do? Run? no, they would quickly learn that HBs die from bullets as easy as us.
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How do you know the Yeerk cloaking doesn't mask the heat signature as well? Relying on heat seeking missiles seems unreliable to me, especially since they're notoriously short range.
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The humans know what to look for. absent every three days? They'd catch on. Oh, and I doubt the yeerks would use max vaporization power on their dracons for full-scale combat. That'd drain the battery way to fast, they'd probably use a lower power setting to just shoot holes in us.
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Holes or vaporize or stun, they still have to hit you. And on stun the weapons would not be able to blow down houses or walls.
As for the cloaking, the humans could most likely simply duplicate a eagles vision to see it. and again there is the question of thermal vision.
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Ah good old Animorphs.
Well logically speaking we wouldn't stand a chance.
Our technology is far inferior, this species has scanners capable of filtering out certain lifeforms and vaporizing them, they have biostasis technology, they have energy based weapons, they have cloaking technology, they have spaceships equipped with faster then light travel, they can generate force fields, they have EMP weapons which they themselves are immune.
They remind me alot of the Goauld in StarGate, parasites that need human hosts.
I think the only thing going for us is the fact that we have far superior numbers, and that they want us alive rather then dead.
I don't think Nuclear Warheads would work, as the Yeerks would be able to detect them from a miles away, and can't they just jump into Zero-Space?
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I don't think Nuclear Warheads would work, as the Yeerks would be able to detect them from a miles away, and can't they just jump into Zero-Space?
Or move, like, twenty feet to the left, leaving the nuke to sail by and land in the nearest major city? :P
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don't forget. In hollywood the humans always win. We always find a way. Whether through computer viruses, or miraculously catching up in technology, or through our music, or through our viruses, we always win. Except in Avatar.
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Well, in Avatar we did win. The only reason they beat was that the animals rebelled.
Our technology has upgraded since the '90s. We have laser weapons, mass drivers (Rail guns) Which I believe could punch a hole through a bldeships shields with sheer kientic force. FTL travel wouldn't help the yeerks as they can't do prescision jump, and there's no human ships to fight. And remember, humans are very quick to adapt. we could probably develope out own, more advanced beam weapons from stolen dracons.
I think that they would initially burn away a bunch of our major cities and stuff, but then they need to get on the ground and capture and/or kill us. That would be the real hard part. it would probably end like Stalingrad. Brutal urban warfare. Stick your head out and get smoked by a sniper. And for the bladeship, it can only be in one place at once. and like I said, it's quite possible our own laser cannons and rail guns could trash it. I doubt they would lower the poolship in the atmosphere, because it is jsut horrible in atmo. If it did, it would be hit by a couple dozen missiles from mall directions. I can easily imagine a squad of HBs in the city streets looking for humans, until hidden sniper pop their heads open with .50s.