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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Alexandra on November 15, 2009, 09:26:32 PM
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The subject of romance in Animorphs is an interesting one because, for a series supposedly aimed at children, Animorphs is pretty heavy on romances and romantic subtext.
Probably because of my tragic fangirl crush on Tobias :o I never liked Tobias and Rachel as a couple when I was a kid and reading the books. I'm still not really all that fond of it, but I think I appreciate their story more as a 22 year old.
My favourite couple have always been Loren and Elfangor, and I'm still not really sure why. I think the tragedy of their story, and poor Tobias being left behind despite the fact they both wanted him so badly, really hits me. He was raised by relatives who didn't want him (and may not have even been real relatives, depending upon whether they were relted to Loren or not), and bullied badly at school. And then he became a nothlit on top of everything! Good God!
So as to why I didn't like him with Rachel after all that, I don't know. But anyway...
Who is your favourite Ani-couple and why? And what do you think of the subject of romance in Animorphs? Did it merely weigh the series down, or did it add to it? Do you think the romantic backstories of the characters were expanded upon enough in the series?
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I take Dak and Aldrea, because they persevered through it all, and stuck together no matter what... They had loyalty, and that's very high on my list in romance...
I think that it added to the series... I'm going to write a novel, and include a pretty significant romantic element, and I think that it really adds to the emotion elicited from the fans, and adds a really good dimension to the books as a whole...
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I probably like the Tobias/Rachel one best. I could relate somewhat to Tobias, and I wanted him to have a happy ending. Though I'm not sure if Rachel wasn't drawn to him partly due to his circumstances, and not all because of who he was/would be if he never became a nothlit.
I never really cared for the interspecies romances, thought the characters themselves were interesting. That's just my personal tastes, though.
As for Ax and Estrid, I guess I like the idea of Ax getting someone. Marco doesn't get anyone, but I could see him as kind of a pimp. He's fine being single and hooking up with temporary women. I didn't dislike Estrid, although I also don't remember her very well nowadays.
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I agree with Elfangor and Loren, partly because I think I was sort of shocked by it. Like throughout the Andalite Chronicles, their relationship was kind of chaste and heroic, like Luke and Leia or something. But the ending still fit, because it showed what Elfangor had learned and how he had changed, which made the fact that the universe wasn't okay with that all the more tragic.
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I like the Tobias/Rachel relationship because, as Metallica put it, it's The Thing that Should Not Be. It was great that Tobias had someone to prop him up when he needed it, but at the same time I was sort of expecting their relationship to start dissolving at any point.
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I voted for Elfangor and Loren. The Andalite Chronicles was probably my favourite book in the series and the chemistry between these two was brilliant and entertaining. Also, they're the only couple (besides Dak and Aldrea) that actually had a real relationship.
I'm not into romance books or anything, but it kind of annoyed me that they barely showed the relationships of the Ani-couples, especially after they've kissed and the feelings are out in the open. There was literally no reason why Cassie and Jake couldn't have been dating, but even Rachel and Tobias had a more serious relationship and he was trapped in a hawk's body! ::)
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Dak and Aldrea, without question. Dak probably would have been my favorite character in the series, except that he was only in one book.
For some reason, Dak and Aldrea's particular struggle really got to me. Much more so than a human and an Andalite or a human and a hawk, an Andalite and a Hork-Bajir are simply two species that were not meant to fall in love with one another. You've got a peaceful, stupid, innocent race on the one side, and a militaristic, highly intelligent, arrogant race on the other. Yet they still managed to overcome that. Throughout the book, you can see both Dak and Aldrea gradually growing towards the other. Dak becomes more intelligent and even a teeny bit ruthless, and Aldrea becomes more compassionate and willing to do what is right rather than just what is logical.
I think Tobias/Rachel is incredibly romantic, and Elfangor/Loren was heartbreaking, but Dak/Aldrea was so romantically heartbreaking that I couldn't really choose anything else.
I didn't really like Cassie/Jake all that much. Mostly because I didn't like Cassie, and as the team's leader, Jake gave in to Cassie's moral ultimatums far more often than he should have. It struck me particularly in #46, when Jake basically said (and I'm paraphrasing, here), "We'll do whatever it takes to win, no matter what we have to sacrifice. . . unless, of course, Cassie doesn't want to."
Ax/Estrid bugged me, too. Yeah, they started out all romantic at the beginning. But they weren't meant for each other. Estrid is your typical Andalite, with all the ruthlessness and cold logic that that entails. Ax, at that point, had already become far too 'human' to really have a shot at someone like that. So they couldn't have worked out together. I think their 'relationship' in so much as it was one, was pretty much all hormones.
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Jake/Cassie was just too bland to get really interested in. I swear the only development they get past the first few books is 26, and anything else that may or may not have happened, happened offscreen so to speak.
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And then he proposed to her in #53! I was like WAT at least make out a little bit, round second, it's not like you guys are innocent enough to have a believable chaste relationship.
But this is America, where it's okay to show disembowelment on prime time TV but not a whole boob.
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Yeah the question of will they get married seemed a bit weird. Although when everything around Jake was crashing down, maybe he still had hope that something wasn't going to crash along with everything else.
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Okay, I must say that my favorite is the Tobias/Rachel relationship, but with one big caveat; I actually enjoyed the sub-textual crush that Marco had on Rachel. Argue this one if you want, but I always got the feeling that Marco had a crush on Rachel and wanted to be with her, leading to his strained relationship with Tobias. Marco always seems to joke around about him and Rachel, for example in #32 where he says something along the lines of "Tobias gets one, I get the other." Just always thought that was a really interesting dynamic.
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Yeah, Marco liked Rachel. which may be a reason why he and Tobias never seemed to get much closer than they were in the beginning. Then again, all the characters had varying degrees of friendship between each other even as the years went by.
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Yeah, I like Tobias and Rachel's relationship best.
Jake and Cassie were going nowhere. They only ever said the like liked each other. They had one moment of kissing, but then they acted afterward like it never happened.
Dak and Aldrea was cool, but didn't carry as much baggage. It didn't have many hurtles. Her parents/family were wiped out, so she clung onto Dak, who she already had feelings for, but nothing solid at that point. Then they grew together.
Estrid and Ax were like flares, the burned bright and hot for a bit, but fizzled at the end.
Al and Loren were torn apart by the Ellimist so that the future could unfold as it should.
Rachel had liked Tobias before they officially met, that's why she had that pic of him so early on. If they didn't get pulled into the war I think they would've hit it off. But the war kinda shoved them together, so it pushed their relationship forward.
She had cared for him (i.e. feed and sheltered him) when he first was trapped as a hawk, and he looked up to her strength of character more than her beauty; although I'm sure her beauty didn't hurt. ;)
I think the main reason I liked Tobias and Rachel's relationship, is 'cause I related with Tobias the most and I've always wanted to have a relationship with a down-to-Earth beauty.
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Yeah I thought it was weird how Jake and Cassie kissed in #26 and then nothing happened until #53 when Jake randomly suggests getting married a year after the war was over. Even in a book aimed at young teens they could have at least said they were dating "behind the scenes."
The Marco/Rachel thing was always entertaining, but I never used to think much of it. However, Megamorphs #4 proves otherwise since it shows the two of them dating in the alternate reality. It's also become more apparent to me in recent years that the Marco/Rachel teasing was almost like flirting at times.
I disagree about Rachel getting between Marco and Tobias though. They may not have got along to start with, but later on Marco and Tobias seem to have a far greater respect for each other. They both helped each other out when they went on personal missions concerning their mothers (#30 and #49 respectively).
The Rachel/Tobias relationship is a good one. It's the only long lasting relationship (at least in terms of the number of books it was in) that seems to go somewhere despite the massive amount of drama the two of them go through. Even early on the two of them hang out together (in books and between books) and they often went in search of the other for advice or comfort.
I think the main reason I liked Tobias and Rachel's relationship, is 'cause I related with Tobias
I related to all of them in different ways, but I also felt very connected to Tobias.
and I've always wanted to have a relationship with a down-to-Earth beauty.
Who hasn't ever wanted that? ;)
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Rachel and Tobias are my favorite couple, but only, as others have stated, because their romance was the only one that really developed. I liked the idea that children's books involved romance, but I think Cassie and Jake should have got their jiggy on if they had been given more attention.
Kids pretty much know about relationships and whatnot, so I think it's cool that they involved it, but sad that it didn't really go anywhere.
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Jake and Cassie were going nowhere. They only ever said the like liked each other. They had one moment of kissing, but then they acted afterward like it never happened.
Actually, they did say that they loved each other toward the end of the series... more than once, iirc...
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Tobachel. They were my first ever ship. I loved every scene where their relationship got a mention and was dissapointed when it didn't play a part but should have, for example in 43 when he goes to Rachel after Taylor let him go and he finds her home, asleep. Come on. Her boyfriend was recaptured by the controller that nearly tortured him to death, they had no idea where he was or if he was even still alive, and I'm supposed to believe she was actually able to go to SLEEP? That was just sloppy writing as far as I'm concerned. The same sloppy writing that had Rachel killed before his eyes but didn't give him a chapter till 3 years later. ::)
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Tobachel.
Oh dear god don't start the name combination thing. Dear god, please.
Come on. Her boyfriend was recaptured by the controller that nearly tortured him to death, they had no idea where he was or if he was even still alive, and I'm supposed to believe she was actually able to go to SLEEP?
You realize, that they've learned to go to sleep with worse things on their mind, right? By this time Tobias has been in almost worse conditions, and he's survived just fine. He's a big boy and can handle himself. Besides, it would only hurt Rachel's chance to find him the next day if she stayed up all night worrying.
The same sloppy writing that had Rachel killed before his eyes but didn't give him a chapter till 3 years later. ::)
Thus the reason I hate that book.
Actually, they did say that they loved each other toward the end of the series... more than once, iirc...
Sure, but that's it. There was never any mention of them going out, or anything. They kissed in book #26, then in the next 28 books, the only other thing they do is say, "I love you." Whoop-di-do. 'Cause that's how real relationships work. ::)
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I must say that the romance between Rachel and Tobias was far more intertaining, the insecurity of Cassie and Jake tword eachother just bored and annoyed me. The power of Rachel and Tobias's relationship is sadly and very effectively revealed in #54 with their last "romantic" moment befor Rachel is killed abored the Blade ship with the others watching from the Pool Ship. Seeing that Rachel is about to be killed, he morphs to human and cries so that Rachel can see him as a human one last time, and then she sais to him, "I love you" and is killed. Even after her death Tobias still harbors strong feelings for her, like during her funeral when he flies down and takes her urn. You cant help but aknowlage the authenticity of their love. It was strong, dynamic, and ended in tragedy only to enforce it. None of the others come close.
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Sorry Parker... had to be a stickler there... :)
But you're totally right about their relationship... Too much "We're just meant to be" and "I can't imagine not loving her" and crap like that, and not enough actually showing affection in SOME way... That's one reason I liked 44... It gives some insight (granted, not very much) on how much Jake cares about Cassie...
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Did #44 give anyone else the feeling that Jake and Cassie's relationship was one sided with Jake having the stronger feelings, or was it just foreshadowing what would happen after the war.
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44 was a mess I didn't buy any of it
WHAT CELL PHONE HAS AN OPERATOR BUTTON? ugh
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This probably won't surprise many, but I don't remember 44. So I don't have anything to say about it. Except that Cassie dumped Jake at the end. Not the other way around.
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Tamora Pierce still has love and far more open romance than Animorphs, but is much more childish in other ways.
Jake definitly liked Cassie more than she liked him.
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I like the Rachel and Tobias romance. My favorite character is Elfangor though. Half the time these days i keep murmering "Prince Elfangor Sirinial Shamtul." sometimes it is "Tobias" I love the 23rd book!
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I went with Elfangor and Loren. I think they had the longest relationship. though I may be wrong. -3 years i think that they skipped with the matrix. Hmm than again I think Aldrea and Dak had a long relationship too. idno i was just always drawn in by Elfangor and Loren's relationship.
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It's hard to say how long Aldrea and dak's relationship was. It wasn't pulled apart by the Ellemist, but they could have been killed at any time.
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I'm going with Dak and Aldrea. Their relationship was just so much more epic than any of the others. Even Elfangor and Loren...the turmoil in their relationship added up to a week. One week! Aldrea and Dak had to survive a war together, and not just any war, a war that they were destined to lose. They also didn't have a perfect relationship. Aldrea used Dak to achieve her goals. She pulled the whole arrogant-Andalite card. She wasn't good for him immediately following her family's death. Dak was influenced by Aldrea to turn his kind into killers after centuries of peace.
But, despite all of that, despite all of the turmoil, despite the Andalites losing, despite the quantum virus, despite Aldrea's manipulations and Dak's self-doubt they still clung together. And not for a week, not for three years, but for long enough to fight the Yeerks, to procreate and to see the child grow at least a little bit. We don't know when they died, but I think we can safely say that they were together in some regard for longer than any other couple in the series (except Elfangor and Loren, but they had the nice suburban dream life). I dunno, I guess I just have an appreciation for love that survives through everything. Rachel and Tobias could have had that, I suppose, if Rachel hadn't died. Cassie and Jake didn't have that, though. The war eventually broke them.
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awwwwwwwww im nearly in tears here... just to think of Tobias crying for Rachel, and then her telling him she loves him...awwwwwwwwwwww
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Like many people have already said, Tobias/Rachel. There are so many complexities to their relationship. Also, individually, they are excellent characters, two of my favorites. Together? They rule the world.
Elfangor/Loren is a very, very close second. Obviously, it's a relationship that began in deeds and words and not necessarily physical attraction, and that is very appealing.
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I really like both couples. I like Tobias/Rachel more, but I like Cassie/Jake, too. I like Cassie and Jake a lot because when they're crushing is the only time they're not old people. They're so awkward around each other, and I think it's sweet. As as much as it would have been nice to have more romantic moments on-camera, I totally buy their lack of imtimacy. I mean, I think that the war itself was more than enough to keep them from dating like normal teenagers, especially since they bore so much responsibility. And Cassie does mention...in 34, I think?...that they kiss off-camera, although it's mostly after tough battles.
I also like Cassie/Jake because I have a big ol' crush on Jake. When I was younger and reading the books as they first came out, I had a crush on Tobias, but as I've matured so have my tastes. If I could Build-A-Boyfriend, he would come out pretty much like Jake. As Rachel says (in MM4, if I remember correctly), Jake is the one guy in a million who really cares who you are, not what you look like. And he's strong and sweet and a leader...plus, I do love them tall boys. So I like Cassie/Jake because I really can't fault the girl.
But Rachel and Tobias are great, too. And you know what? I personally believe they were banging ALL THE TIME. I know I said up there that I didn't think Cassie and Jake were as much in love as they could have been because of the war, but I don't think this is true for Tobias and Rachel. I mean, Cassie and Jake were both very serious, responsible, duty-bound characters. But both Tobias and Rachel were impulsive and far more emotional. And they were both to some degree the other's last link to normalcy. Besides that, they're flirting ALL THE TIME. I love the sweet, affectionate way that they always tease each other even when it's not one of their books. I'm telling you, I think their relationship was all precocious, impulsive sixteen-year-old. And then it's SO TRAGIC. Oh man, Tobias/Rachel is awesome.
I think that both of the main romances in this series were written really well. Both relationships were balanced very well. Cassie and Rachel were such real, fleshed-out young women who were capable of getting into relationships without sacrificing their badassitude. In popular culture and even in real life I've seen lots of girls who change themselves either to get into or to stay in the relationship, but neither Cassie nor Rachel never, in the name of love, operate at less than Maximum Burn. I don't know if I would call either of their relationships 100% healthy, but still Cassie and Rachel remain my most enduring fictional female role models, particularly when it comes to keeping "being in a relationship" and "being true, independent, and totally fierce" from being mutually exclusive.
Loren and Elfangor are awesome.
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Tobias/Rachel for sure. It was pretty dynamic. I mean, its obvious that Rachel is his tie to humanity, but more than that, I always felt that Tobias was Rachel's tie to it as well. I mean, she gets pretty axe crazy towards the end, yet she is still caring for him. I think it was him keeping her from going over the edge.
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Tobias and Rachel for the previously stated reasons, they just had more development on page and seemed to fit each other like a hand and a glove.
Though kleenexcow's thought is interesting, and I will ask everyone here-do YOU think that they were all virgins at the end of the war? Also, if the series were written for more of a high school/college crowd, should references and/or allusions to sex have been included?
Now that I think about it, it does seem weird that a bunch of teenagers from thirteen to sixteen hardly ever even mentioned sex, let alone discussed it. Scholastic probably wouldn't allow it, but how many high school/college crowd books do they publish? ^-^
I guess they can't all be as honest as Degrassi Junior High.
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My favorite has to be Elfangor and Loren because, gosh, I really think that it might have been the first book I ever read where I got a bit emotional over a relationship! Plus, later on, you learn that both of them wanted Tobias and that his parents didn't just forget about him like he thought they did.
But, the other thing I wanted to mention was how sad I got over basically the disintegration of Jake and Cassie's relationship. I really liked them together, and I felt like KAA just... didn't care towards the end. I KNOW I'm in the minority here, but I thought that the scene in the snake house was tragic and romantic, and I just love that scene. I'm sad they didn't work out, but I guess that was just one more thing thing in the last book to add to the realism of the ending. Ugh, that just depressed me though, to see Cassie with some random dude.
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Which scene was the snake house scene?
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To be honest, I liked Tobias/Rachel most. I mean, Jake/Cassie was pretty much a given, but Tobias and Rachel were pretty much less verbal/physical about it (apart from the times Rachel cradled Tobias and things like that), but it was obvious they liked each other so much. I forget who mentioned it, but they do kind of complete each other in a way. But I did like the times where Jake/Cassie comforted each other, and I thought it was pretty cute when they kissed after tough battles and things. Tobias and Rachel never made it 'official', but it was pretty much unspoken, wasn't it?
The other pairings, to me, vary. Not much was ever said or ever developed between Ax and Estrid, and they seemed kind of unsuited to me. Elfangor and Loren was particularly resonant, I mean, it was like, a case of tragic love. Elfangor was born an Andalite and Loren a human, so were they ever going to stay together forever? That's why that has that stands out, to me. And Dak and Aldrea to me was cute also. They really went together.
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Tobias and Rachel never made it 'official', but it was pretty much unspoken, wasn't it?
They did make it official, sometime 'offscreen' but by book 33 they were refering to each other as their boyfriend/girlfriend in their books and Tobias did refer to Rachel as his girlfriend out loud to the others in one of the books, though I forget which one. It was towards the end of the series.
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Well this one is easy for me, though there are several great couples in the series--definitely Jake/Cassie, my first ever OTP/ship, even before I knew the concept! Jake was by far my favorite character (and I admit I definitely had a literary crush on him!), and I liked Cassie as well (even if I'm the only one!), and I just loved their relationship, and was heartbroken when it ended in #54.
I was always more invested in their relationship than in any other pairing, I never cared as much for Rachel/Tobias, for whatever reason. As much as it pains me that they ended apart, I do love the tragedy that is Jake's character and J/C. And going back and re-reading the books and collecting J/C-related quotes, I still think they are a cute and well-matched pairing as well as a tragic one in the end. And not that it's a major factor, but I do think it's nice that they had an interracial pairing in the books as well, I can't really think of too many others in the book series I read and TV shows I watch...
I think my favorite moment is in #41, when Jake chooses saving Cassie over the world--if that doesn't show love, I don't know what does!
I do really love Elfangor/Loren as well though, it's a close second in terms of my favorite pairings, they were also pretty epic with their cross-species love and journeys and tragic end (I am an inveterate d00med shipper, it's in the genes I think, lol). And Dak/Aldea were epic as well...
Jake/Cassie was just too bland to get really interested in. I swear the only development they get past the first few books is 26, and anything else that may or may not have happened, happened offscreen so to speak.
Did you forget about "The Familiar", #41, which was pretty much ALL about Jake/Cassie? I'd say that Jake realizing he'd save Cassie over the world after his little AU test experience in which he saw her so changed as a Controller counts as a pretty significant "on-page" development in their relationship....
You also had plenty of other moments, like Jake and Cassie dancing and flirting more in #29, the various conflicts and growing tensions as Jake begins to lose it towards the end of the series, their temporary falling out over the Cube Incident, then their making up, and the proposal in #53 (which was perhaps a little random, but I can understand it, given Jake's deteriorating and desperate state at this point, eager to latch onto any promise of normalcy after the war), and of course their final disintegration as a pairing in #54.
There certainly were Jake/Cassie developments after #26, I wonder if perhaps as someone who considered J/C to be bland, you just might not remember them....
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I might not have remembred them. I really don't know if jake chose Cassie over the world or not. It's ambiguous.
Their relationship just wasn't as noticable as R/T. But I guess they do get their moments, and there is some focus on it in the final arc.
I could just be a bit biased.
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I love Jake and Cassie. They are like awesome. I thought it was cool that you could see alot of things between the two. I love how they went to the dance at the end of the series. I wish they could of done more on the. It was a hard decision because I love Jake and Cassie and Rachel and Tobias as the couples. Did you see Marco or Ax with anyone just wondering?
Thanks again.
:)
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But Rachel and Tobias are great, too. And you know what? I personally believe they were banging ALL THE TIME. I know I said up there that I didn't think Cassie and Jake were as much in love as they could have been because of the war, but I don't think this is true for Tobias and Rachel. I mean, Cassie and Jake were both very serious, responsible, duty-bound characters. But both Tobias and Rachel were impulsive and far more emotional. And they were both to some degree the other's last link to normalcy. Besides that, they're flirting ALL THE TIME. I love the sweet, affectionate way that they always tease each other even when it's not one of their books. I'm telling you, I think their relationship was all precocious, impulsive sixteen-year-old. And then it's SO TRAGIC. Oh man, Tobias/Rachel is awesome.
A hundred times, THIS. FTW.
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I personally wanted to see Marco/Rachel happen. For some reason, they always seemed to have more chemistry than Tobias and Rachel. And yes, I believe that all of the antagonism between them was shameless flirting. Ever notice how as long as Rachel goes along with it, Marco will keep pushing the envelope, but the instant she snaps at him, he stops? And the scene at the end of #30 was just precious...I loved the dynamics of their relationship.
And you know what? I personally believe they were banging ALL THE TIME.
I'd have to disagree there. I could see Rachel wanting to be more intimite, even coming up with ultimatums, but I think Tobias would be a little more cautious. Come on, the poor guy can't even handle an entire school dance! I picture that he'd be too concerned with the time limit or getting too caught up in the emotions (read: humanity) to go try it. So naturally, Rachel would have to turn to Marco...(in my make believe world) ::)
Actually, while I couldn't say that it was my favourite couple, I would have liked to see more of Eva and Peter's relationship. It's the only one in the entire series with a fairy-tale ending. I always thought that it was beautiful and romantic how Peter never really got over his wife's death (until Nora came along out of NOWHERE) and I literally began to cry when they were reunited. I really think I could have run around the free Hork-Bajir colony singing showtunes along with Marco.
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The problem with Peter and Eva's relationship is that their only son probably died. If I were writing the series I would've probably put Rachel and Marco together: it makes more sense: Action girl and strategist rather than Action girl and Wet Blanket.
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Tobias & Rachel by far. Besides the fact that they were my favourite characters from the beginning, their relationship was far more interesting and present than any other in the books.
Jake and Cassie kiss one, they say in the narration they 'like' each other, a couple books later Cassie doodles she loves Jake on a piece of paper and then at the end he's proposing to her. I get what he meant about having spent so much time with her that he felt he knew he'd always love her, but come on, we see almost nothing of their relationship, and what was present was bland. At most times it seemed more like a crush to me than love.
Tobias and Rachel had much more interesting chemistry. They frequently acted on their feelings and had to overcome a number of difficulties in order to be together. When Tobias became a nothlit, Rachel was upset. Whenever Marco took a shot at him, Rachel would defend him. When Tobias was given his powers back, Rachel was furious at the Ellimist's apparent betrayal. Those are only the first third of the series' moments between them, the list goes on and on. They're also far more likely, in my eyes, to have been developing their relationship behind the scenes than any other of the Animorphs.
In my mind, it's a no-brainer.
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The problem I've always had with Tobias and Rachel is that their relationship seems a little out of character and one-sided. Rachel was the one who was standing up for him and saying how much he meant to her...in a way that never really sounded like her. I wanted to slap her when she said things like: "On a day like this, I'd follow you anywhere," in book #13. It seemed too mushy and puppy-eyed for Rachel. As for Tobias, I can't disagree that he was always watching out for her in battles, but I never attributed that to affection, as he did the same thing for the others. I imagined that he was just trying to do what he could for the team. Actually, the first time I read the series years ago, I completely missed the entire relationship aside from the handful of times they admitted to liking each other. Then later in the series, when they had an established relationship, I had to stop for a minute and think where that came from (so I re-read the other books). Okay, so they liked each other. But the all-consuming, star-crossed, meant-to-be, undying love Tobias/Rachel shippers harp on about? I'm a bit skeptical.
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Delurking to throw in my love for the girl/bird OTP for the same reasons everyone else has said. Ever since getting back into Animorphs I have been fighting off the urge to compose an unnecessarily long Rachel/Tobias ship manifesto.
I'm curious, what do you guys think they see in each other? What do you suppose initially drew them together? I vaguely recall Rachel mentioning that she sort of knew Tobias (at least knew who he was) before the walk through the construction site, and that intrigued me.
Tobias' view isn't that difficult to imagine--after all, Rachel is confident and gorgeous. It's safe to say that he developed a crush on her pre-series or very quickly after book #1. He tells her he's worried about her in #2 when she's in Chapman's house--somehow I feel that if it had been Cassie he'd have worded it more like "Jake's worried" or "we're worried." But to Rachel, "I'm worried." That sort of thing stands out coming from a guy who, when he was human, really didn't want to stand out. In any case, Tobias is definitely into her by #3 with the near-death confession. He also spends a lot of time in that book being with her one-on-one for confiding his fears. That's interesting to note because why Rachel? Why not, for example, Jake, who Tobias looks up to and sort of used to follow around because obviously Jake is strong and dependable and nice? Why not Cassie, who's so outwardly compassionate?
And what made Rachel notice Tobias? What do you suppose she thought of him before the construction site? How and when did she discover the sweet guy beneath the bully-magnet/hawk? In #2 Rachel is more focused on Melissa than anything else. She does seem a bit sensitive to Tobias being trapped in morph (very pointed "Tobias will always be a hawk" comment), but that could just be a natural reaction/follow-up to the predicament. In #7, though, she goes to Tobias when she's distraught over her family/future, continuing from #3 with the way they seek each other out in confidence. Rachel's feelings develop more gradually, and though it's a bit awful to say it's certainly possible that they first grew out of pity. Later on that's definitely not true, but it could have been the beginning.
Hm, and it seems that a good number of Rachel and Tobias books end with a scene between just them or a line spoken by the other. Not all of them, but most, I think. There was so much that I disliked about #32, but the ending always makes me a happy shipper. "Let's go, Rachel. The two of you and the two of me. Let's go." SHIPS GIRL/BIRD FOREVER. <3
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Delurking to throw in my love for the girl/bird OTP for the same reasons everyone else has said. Ever since getting back into Animorphs I have been fighting off the urge to compose an unnecessarily long Rachel/Tobias ship manifesto.
I'm curious, what do you guys think they see in each other? What do you suppose initially drew them together? I vaguely recall Rachel mentioning that she sort of knew Tobias (at least knew who he was) before the walk through the construction site, and that intrigued me.
Tobias' view isn't that difficult to imagine--after all, Rachel is confident and gorgeous. It's safe to say that he developed a crush on her pre-series or very quickly after book #1. He tells her he's worried about her in #2 when she's in Chapman's house--somehow I feel that if it had been Cassie he'd have worded it more like "Jake's worried" or "we're worried." But to Rachel, "I'm worried." That sort of thing stands out coming from a guy who, when he was human, really didn't want to stand out. In any case, Tobias is definitely into her by #3 with the near-death confession. He also spends a lot of time in that book being with her one-on-one for confiding his fears. That's interesting to note because why Rachel? Why not, for example, Jake, who Tobias looks up to and sort of used to follow around because obviously Jake is strong and dependable and nice? Why not Cassie, who's so outwardly compassionate?
And what made Rachel notice Tobias? What do you suppose she thought of him before the construction site? How and when did she discover the sweet guy beneath the bully-magnet/hawk? In #2 Rachel is more focused on Melissa than anything else. She does seem a bit sensitive to Tobias being trapped in morph (very pointed "Tobias will always be a hawk" comment), but that could just be a natural reaction/follow-up to the predicament. In #7, though, she goes to Tobias when she's distraught over her family/future, continuing from #3 with the way they seek each other out in confidence. Rachel's feelings develop more gradually, and though it's a bit awful to say it's certainly possible that they first grew out of pity. Later on that's definitely not true, but it could have been the beginning.
Hm, and it seems that a good number of Rachel and Tobias books end with a scene between just them or a line spoken by the other. Not all of them, but most, I think. There was so much that I disliked about #32, but the ending always makes me a happy shipper. "Let's go, Rachel. The two of you and the two of me. Let's go." SHIPS GIRL/BIRD FOREVER. <3
As you supposed, Tobias would have likely had a crush on Rachel before the events of the first book, and its easy to see how that attraction would have become stronger as he got to know her.
Rachel's POV requires a little more speculation. It's possible that she felt sorry for Tobias during their school days, and felt protective of him. Once Tobias became trapped as a hawk however, he begins to mature as he adjusts to his new form's predatory nature. 'Mean Rachel' mentions in #32 that she respects Tobias as a fellow warrior - he's a predator just like she views herself. 'Nice Rachel' mentions that she thinks he's cute. So I suppose those two reasons cobbled together are what attracted her to him.
I've been feeling the exact same thing btw. I recently re-read the series, and absolutely loved the Rachel/Tobias chemistry and romance. I'm actually in the middle of writing a TxR fanfic set just after #32
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i'll second rachel's being protective.
i speculate and say she feels compelled to defend those who suffer bullying or unfair odds. chances are, the bullying was what first led her to notice him. or, i should say, i doubt she noticed anything over-the-top... i'd like to think that she would have tried to stop bullying if she'd seen it herself. but maybe she heard a rumor or two; it sounds like tobias stood out for his own reasons while he was in school...
i was not sad to see cassie and jake split. i don't think that either would have been happy in a relationship with one another. again, just speculation on my part, but i've heard this theory- that you're attracted to your opposite when you're younger, but attracted to someone similar to yourself when you're older (i.e., unless the both of you are very, very mature and can handle conflict well, being in a close relationship with your opposite means a fair amount of tension. different priorities, perspectives, goals...). in any case, JxC just falls into that hypothesis- if it has some grain of truth in it.
and i don't see why people don't understand why the "post-war" reason for the split is feasible. war, as an event that changes you dramatically and affects your daily life, is like.... summer camp on steroids. you make friends at summer camp because you're all there together, doing the same things, suffering under the same bad camp instructors, forced to eat the same nasty cafeteria food. once that's gone... the friends you make don't often keep in touch afterward. and why is that? why don't you keep in touch with 90% of your high school/college friends once you leave? (or, if you do, how long does the communication last? like, a year? or two, at most?)
i live five minutes from two roommates i had in college, but we never talk anymore. what was keeping us together is no longer there. we have little in common. none of the same professors, tuition costs, clubs, homework, exams... when suddenly everything that IS your life disappears, you fill it back up with new things... and seeing as the animorphs were all so very different (face it: they stuck together because they needed to save the world, not for much else), they just filled their lives up with very different things and therefore had no reason to hang together anymore.
the parallel for that probably isn't as accurate for a gf/bf relationship, but i'll be honest, i've never been in such a relationship, so it's hard for me to do more than hypothesize. ^^;
i actually liked elfangor/loren's relationship, if only for its uniqueness but apparent stability. ^^' and that's about all i can say on that.
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Which scene was the snake house scene?
This was in book 53, the second to last book. Jake is about to acquire the anaconda to show the Taxxons. I don't have the book with me but I've read each of the books so many times that let's see if I can recall from memory... sorry if I get something wrong. He says to Cassie that when the war is all over, maybe they should get married. Cassie cries a little bit I think, and she says, "I would like that."
I kind of hate the way she was with some other dude Ronnie in the last book because of this. I might have been okay with it if she was more unsure of what Jake was saying to her in book 53, but... because the exchange that they had, it almost gave the feeling of "things are going to be all right," for me. Like, maybe a lot of things would be lost in the war and maybe Jake would have come out of it with a LOT of PTSD, of course, but there might have been a feeling of "at least we have each other." But that got thrown out, rather abruptly, I think. Mmm, maybe actually that is the real issue I had with this whole relationship, the abruptness of the ending?
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Yeah, I really didn't like how that one ended. Jake lost a lot of things, but at least he could have still had Cassie. She should have done more to help him through his depression. Heck Marco kept a better eye on him than she did.
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When it comes to Jake and Cassie, I find them cute when they have their awkward moments but they don't really grab my attention until things start falling apart. In the scene where they talk about marriage, Cassie does cry but it's not at all a happy, hopeful sort of crying. She does say, "I would like that, eventually." That's followed by a very significant but...
Cassie knows Jake better than he knows himself; she knows that he's not going to be okay when the war is over, but he's fooling himself into thinking he will be. She tries to get through to him about that, but he can't really handle the truth at the moment. He needs to keep things together, and if deluding himself with false optimism will help, so be it (he's like this at the end, too, when talking to Marco about redeeming himself for his failures). Cassie doesn't push the issue, and forces herself to smile and sort of joke around. I'm not saying she's being fatalistic about the whole thing, but she's definitely aware that rushing into marriage expecting it to be a happy post-war panacea is highly unlikely. So she gives him the "ask me again in a year" proposal.
For me, this scene actually sets up their separation in the end. I'll agree that her suddenly being with another guy feels weird--but then, it's only sudden to us because so much time is skipped. If you use your imagination to fill in the development, it's not so strange. I do wonder, though, why it took Cassie so long to reach out and try to help him again.
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I have been rewatching the Animoprhs episodes. It's been awhile I guess I still ike the the same couple Jake and Cassie. So does anyone could tell me about what happens in the book or is it similar to the show.
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i have never seen the show. (past episode one, maaaybe two.)
but i will tell you this: if you can stand watching the tv series, it is worth it to you to read the books. ^^ you might enjoy them very, very much.
and yes, cassie and jake are more or less an item in the book series. :)
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Really is there a reason you never watched the show. Just wondering.
Really I'm trying to figure out where they have the books if they are still available at bookstores or not. My sister has a few. Really that's cool. Really that would be cool to find out about Jake and Cassie. I heard that someone besides the author wrote the last few books of the series is that true. ;D
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Actually, about half of the books were written by various ghostwriters. I believe that every main series book from #27 to #52 was ghostwritten, except for #32.
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...or something like that. you can def wiki the ghostwriter thing; has the numbers and ghostwriter names, etc.
and i never bothered with the tv series because i didn't think it was nearly as awesome as the book series. :) in fact, after reading the books, the tv show was a little disappointing to me.
so! i highly recommend getting your hands on the books, if you can. sometimes you can find them in bulk on ebay or something, if that's an option for you. i know i found my missing megamorphs there. =)
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Really that would be so much fun to read the books. Thanks for letting me know exactly where to find the books.
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Chad28: While they never say it outright, I think that the implication that he chose Cassie is so strong that we can safely say he did. I mean the book starts out with him kind of brushing her off when she needed to talk to someone, then next thing he knows he's in a AU!Future setting, in which he meets Cassie and finds that she has become this cold, hard, realistic, different version of herself, then he has to make the choice between her and the world, then next thing we know he's back home, thinking that he now knows what was important to him (I don't remember what the exact phrasing of that was, but it was that essentially), and following this thought (and following his vision of a world in which Cassie is cold and hard and not the person he loved, all starting from that one night he didn't comfort her), he calls Cassie.
Him choosing Cassie is just the only logical answer, given this sequence of events....I mean really, if he chose the world, why would the automatic response to him having realized what is most important to him be calling Cassie? Why would the unknown being who engineered the whole thing note, after he makes his choice, how interesting it was, and that it would have to study these humans more? Surely someone choosing the world over one measly person is what you'd expect most people to do, not all that noteworthy....
Jake and Cassie kiss one, they say in the narration they 'like' each other, a couple books later Cassie doodles she loves Jake on a piece of paper and then at the end he's proposing to her. I get what he meant about having spent so much time with her that he felt he knew he'd always love her, but come on, we see almost nothing of their relationship, and what was present was bland. At most times it seemed more like a crush to me than love.
Again, we do see much more than that, even if you can't remember it--see my above post. I don't think that when someone chooses to save someone over the world it's a mere crush, either, but maybe that's just me.
In any case, all of you make me want to finish my project I began a few years ago of compiling every single Jake/Cassie interaction from every book! Since so many of you don't seem to remember everything....I've only gotten around to a few books so far, but for instance, this is what I have from "The Encounter":
• Everyone said good night. I saw Cassie and Jake touch their hands together in a way that could almost have been accidental.
• "That's it, Jake," Cassie urged. She held his hand tight between both of hers. "Come back to me, Jake. Come all the way back."
• "Ha ha! That was close!" Cassie exulted. She gave Jake a hug. Then I guess she felt self-conscious, because she ran over and hugged Rachel and Marco.
• "If you feel like you're suffocating, you have to back out of the morph," Jake told her. He took her hand. "Are you listening to me? You have to back out if it gets bad. You can't pass out halfway into a morph."
Cassie smiled. "I will. Don't worry about me."….
<Aaaah!> she cried.
"Cassie, pull out of it!" Jake cried in an urgent whisper.
Or here is from "The Predator":
• “Jake just shrugged. Cassie sidled up next to him and gave him a small little sideways hug. No one was supposed to notice. But right away Jake's harsh look mellowed a little.”
• “"Cassie?" Jake asked.
"I'm okay," Cassie said.
"Me, too, Jake, thanks for asking," Rachel said.”
• “I couldn't tell if Jake had told any of the others that I was quitting. Probably he had told Cassie.”
• “Cassie sidled up next to him and nuzzled him with her wolf's muzzle.
I guess it should have been funny. The wolf and the tiger, sharing a tender moment. But all it did was make me a little jealous. They had each other.”
Now many of these aren't major, just little moments, but they do exist, their relationship was a constant, even if it wasn't always exactly on the front burner of the plots.
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i was not sad to see cassie and jake split. i don't think that either would have been happy in a relationship with one another. again, just speculation on my part, but i've heard this theory- that you're attracted to your opposite when you're younger, but attracted to someone similar to yourself when you're older (i.e., unless the both of you are very, very mature and can handle conflict well, being in a close relationship with your opposite means a fair amount of tension. different priorities, perspectives, goals...). in any case, JxC just falls into that hypothesis- if it has some grain of truth in it.
and i don't see why people don't understand why the "post-war" reason for the split is feasible. war, as an event that changes you dramatically and affects your daily life, is like.... summer camp on steroids. you make friends at summer camp because you're all there together, doing the same things, suffering under the same bad camp instructors, forced to eat the same nasty cafeteria food. once that's gone... the friends you make don't often keep in touch afterward. and why is that? why don't you keep in touch with 90% of your high school/college friends once you leave? (or, if you do, how long does the communication last? like, a year? or two, at most?)
i live five minutes from two roommates i had in college, but we never talk anymore. what was keeping us together is no longer there. we have little in common. none of the same professors, tuition costs, clubs, homework, exams... when suddenly everything that IS your life disappears, you fill it back up with new things... and seeing as the animorphs were all so very different (face it: they stuck together because they needed to save the world, not for much else), they just filled their lives up with very different things and therefore had no reason to hang together anymore.
the parallel for that probably isn't as accurate for a gf/bf relationship, but i'll be honest, i've never been in such a relationship, so it's hard for me to do more than hypothesize. ^^;
Are they really all THAT opposite though? :huh: I mean, yes, they clashed sometimes over tactical decisions and such, and she has this heightened concern for the environment, but I certainly would not call her his "opposite"--they were both more quiet, reflective people, and they each enjoyed the other's company, were able to comfort each other, Jake could make Cassie feel better, Cassie made Jake feel better (though this changed towards the end when he became more and more damaged, and it was more just a one-way street comfort-wise). Seems to me like they were quite a suitable couple, and I don't get why after being so compatible and enjoying each other's company so much over the years (especially when they spent so much time together, so they had the chance to get sick of each other and didn't) they would not last after the war?
Honestly, Rachel and Tobias were much more "opposite" than Jake and Cassie were, IMO, so if you are going to use that as an argument about lasting....the reason why Jake couldn't be with Cassie at the end had nothing to do with her, it had only to do with him and his PTSD. He was too damaged to even sustain his friendship with Marco, his oldest and best friend, let alone a romantic one with Cassie!
Also I'm sorry, but war, especially a war as traumatic as this one, cannot be rightly called "summer camp on steroid"--unless in summer camp you regularly killed people! ::) People at summer camp don't have the deaths of 15,000 defenseless beings and 10 handicapped kids AND their own cousin weighing on their conscience....they don't have PTSD, which DOES change your life forever, for the bad.
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okay, so you acknowledge that jake was damaged, and caring became a one-way street; cassie to jake, cassie to jake, cassie to...
once the war ended, did you think that would change? jake was pretty irreparably damaged, imho. he'd long since passed from the elastic into plastic. how many times can you bend a paperclip or a soda can pop-top before you can't bend it back... and it snaps?
yeah.
time, no matter how much, can't fix a broken paperclip.
and would you have saddled cassie with that? would she have left herself in that position? since she tends to know people better than they, themselves do... she probably foresaw how bad it could/would get.
so.... perhaps i'm not emphasizing 'opposite' so much as, well... whatever you would use to summarize what i said up there.
as for rachel and tobias.... who knows how they would have ended up. but they, at least, still had a two-way thing going in the end.
and if you don't like my summer camp parallel, that can't be helped. you're probably more of a 'facts' than a 'theory' person, so i tried tailoring my response to that. but can you really nitpick the concept behind my explanation? when something consumes your life for several years (or a week), you begin to reprioritize.
shared suffering creates friendships. the same way the loss of that suffering allows friendships created during suffering to fall apart. and you never answered my question. how many of your school friends do you keep track of, once you're not in the same classes or the same school? i mean, if you keep track of all of them, you'd prove me wrong. but if you only hold on to maybe 2 or 3 friends over the years... you're only proving me right.
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Jake wasn't irreparably damaged, though. He actually starts improving once Cassie finally starts trying to help him again. he takes that job as an instructer or whatever regarding the anti Yeerk terrorists. It makes me think if Cassie had stayed with him the whole time, it would have been better for him.
I don't really remember him cutting ties with marco, though he has become distant from everyone.
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I agree with you to an extent chad, but it wasn't cassie's responsibility to save Jake. I don't think that it is fair for anyone to have to sacrafice there own happiness and there own life just to save someone else. It isn't Cassies fault that Jake cracks like an egg and if she doesn't want to invest the time or think that she can handle doing it, then she shouldn't be faulted for that; she had to think of her own well being.
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But who else was going to do it? Who would be better to do it? I guess she didn't absolutely have to, but I think she should have. She left him because he changed. Well Cassie...work to change him back!
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About Jake choosing Cassie over the world... I think it's still ambiguous as to whether or not he made that decision. Actually, between choosing the person you love and the world, wouldn't most humans pick the former? What sets Jake apart as the leader is his ability to make the tough calls for the greater good, and he does sacrifice Rachel like that in the end. The comment about his choice being interesting could be in reference to that rare way of thinking/drive to actually do it. The reason why he calls Cassie afterward could be because he's aware of this side of himself and, similar to how Rachel wants Tobias to be her link to humanity, Jake wants Cassie to be his. I love the similarities between Jake and Rachel, subtle as they are.
Anyway, I'm not saying I disagree that he chose Cassie, I'm just saying it's not all that clear.
I do agree that it wasn't Cassie's responsibility to save him in the end. I did find it a little bit odd, and rather sad, when she didn't help him until later when she had her own life sorted out--but that's fair, I think. You have to help yourself before you help someone else. She didn't leave him because he changed--she just wasn't ready herself, maybe. And she couldn't save him completely, no matter what. The fact that she accepted that in the end showed how she matured and healed herself after the war.
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I guess you could say she helped herself before helping him. That does make sense. I'm just glad he did start improving, which showed he would likely be ok later in life if not for the kamakazi mission.
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I had a thought ~ it seemed like most of the couples mentioned here were brought together by the war. as in without the war, they wouldn't have known each other or in Rachel and Tobias's case, they wouldn't have had the oppurtunity to love each other. the exception being Jake and Cassie because they had like each other before the war. and theirs was the weakest relationship having been unable to survive even tho they could have easily been together at the end.
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probably tobias and rachel, they are pretty romantic(my friend who dislikes animorphs is crazy about that) and all their night time conversations. Jake and Cassie sorta make me bored since jake is the leader and his books are boring and Cassie's books are boring too(except for 19) Ax/Estrid and Dak/Aldrea and Elfangor/Loren was only in one book so yeah.
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Good thread! I have to go with Elfangor and Loren, because if you couldn't tell from my name, I ADORE them. I am endlessly fascinated by thhe concept of falling in love with this alien who looks NOTHING like you, it defies all the odds. I love how slow their relationship built, but you notice little things that show their attraction right away - the way Elfangor notices Loren's bright golden hair, the way he describes her clothes hanging off her body...it's made even more tragic that Loren had this great love that she is unable to remember.
Tobias and Rachel are a close second. Tobias is my favorite Animorph, period.
Cassie and Jake had their moments, especially in the early books. Cassie walking in on Jake square-dancing like A BIG HOKING GOOBER always makes me smile. I'm a huge romantic at heart, so really, it's what kept me glued to the series more than anything else.
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Rachel and Tobias FTW
I always loved Tobias personally, and i liked his relationship with Rachel because I believed he deserved someone who really, truly loved him. I have to admit, the romance between the two was alot heavier and easier to swallow in the tv series(probably because they softened up Rachel :XD: ). Tobias will forever hold a place in my heart, just like Rachel will always be the only thing to ever fill his.
The Cassie-Jake romance was always just complicated, in half way through i was sick of it.
The whole Elfangor and Loren romance broke my heart :'( :'( , but was sweet nonetheless. It's a shame he had to die before they could be together on last time...
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Although I havn't read all books (just 41) but I really love Tobias/Rachel. It is so cute how they act with the other. There are so many lovely moments between them like in #27 when when Tobias cheated to go with Rachel in the whale-morph.
You really notice how much they like each other.
Delurking to throw in my love for the girl/bird OTP for the same reasons everyone else has said.
I'm curious, what do you guys think they see in each other? What do you suppose initially drew them together? I vaguely recall Rachel mentioning that she sort of knew Tobias (at least knew who he was) before the walk through the construction site, and that intrigued me.
I remeber a few scenes in #1 where you can see that there has been something between them before the war started.
#1:
"Don't look," Rachel said to her. She put her arm around Cassie's shoulder and held her close.
Then she reached for Tobias and took his hand
Cassie is her best Friend so it's not unusually the Rachel puts her arm around Cassie but why should she hold the hand of a boy she barely know?
or another one:
#1
obias swooped down and perched on Rachel's shoulder, ft surprised me a little. Why would
Tobias perch on Rachel's shoulder? And she didn't seem at all annoyed. She rubbed her head
against him a little.
She rubbed her head against him. For me that's a gesture of affection. And that Tobias landed on her shoulder makes clear he know Rachel wouldn't mind that and I think that shows, they have to know each other better than just a little bit.
I doubt that they had a relationship already but there already was something between them.
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Elfangor and Loren. Their scenes together sometimes were just so nauseatingly cute. Needless to say, I loved it. ;D They were the only romantic couple that felt... well, real. The others seemed more like fanservice or the author's preferred couple, not real couples that actually had any chemistry. Of all those, Jake and Cassie might qualify, but then again, growing up my major crush in a book was Cassie and I didn't really want to share her and yes, I know I have problems... ::) my favorite anime crush was May from Pokémon, BTW, though nowadays that honor goes to Lucy from Elfen Lied. ;)
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I would say Aldrea/Dak and Elfangor/Loren are probably my two absolute favorites, closely followed by Rachel/Tobias.
I was so excited when I started out the Estrid book, thinking that Ax was finally going to get a love interest...then I was mad that she turned out to be such a spineless creep at the end. -_- (Though, really, I have a lot of beefs with Estrid's character writing-wise, but I'll leave that for another thread.) I would have loved to see Ax get with another Andalite chick like Aldrea, someone with more...erm...tail than most Andalite guys. I was actually kind of sad that Ax never managed to get someone, I bet it would have been a really good romance arc like Aldrea's and Elfangor's was.
I never really liked Cassie, so it was hard for me to get behind their relationship. I think in the end where she just ditched Jake was like the ultimate proving moment for me that she was a real creep. She didn't have the spine to work through the problems like Aldrea/Dak, Elf/Loren or Tob/Rach did, it was like "you have my morals and act like them or its done." I always felt like she had no real respect for Jake, only respect for herself, and that unlike Rach/Tob her love wasn't unconditional.
Though...I have to admit...my heart did a little fangirl leap in the book where Marco pulled Ax to sit on his lap... *SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!*
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How do we know what broke Jake and Cassie up in the final book? I think they're BOTH responsible for their ultimate breakup, but again, this my opinion since we never see it at any point.
And like I said, Noelle, I like really dark girls, so are you surprised? Nyeh! :P
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I guess this is really late but i can't help but add my own two cents. I guess this topic has kinda been beaten and hashed out to death, but honestly favourite pairing has got to be Tobias and Rachel for sure. Why? I guess because i really like how it developed. Many people have mentioned the fact that they probably wouldn't be together if there hadn't been a war, and that's probably true. But what really drew me to them was the fact that in the end, the only person to understand her was not the best friend or cousin that's known her all her life, it was Tobias. It may have started with a bit a pity and her need to protect, but in the end, Tobias was protecting her just as much as she was protecting him.
Besides like Tobias says "its takes a fairly crazy girl to like a Bird-boy". It takes a pretty crazy guy to like a girl who's so perfect on the outside, yet so damaged on the inside. It just works.
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Huh, I'm surprised at how big the Tobias-Rachel pairing is. I never really 'got it'; I mean I understand it, but I didn't feel it as strongly as I felt Cassie and Jake (which I love and which absolutely breaks my heart considering the end they actually got) or Elfangor and Loren (my actual answer to this poll). Though bringing up the poll, Dak and Aldrea is another of my favourites -- not necessarily because I think it's a good pairing, though. I just find it fascinating how ****ed up they, and their relationship, become.
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I always adores the Tobias/Rachel relationship. I cried in the end and I start to tear up every time I think about it. And no matter how many people say it wouldn't have worked anyways, I loved the Cassie/Jake relationship too. It made me cry when they broke up. :(:( The whole end of the series made me sad.... But the Tobias/Rachel relationship will always be my favorite. :)
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I've always loved Loren/Elfangor, just the little details like Elfangor noticing Lorens hair/looking up her shirt (haha) and their fingers touching I think it was the most organic relationship in Animorphs. That and it ended up in heart breaking sadness so you know but it was still great :)
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One relationship never explored was Jara and Ket. After 13, they were rarely mentioned together if I remember right, which is a bit of a shame. Then again, I'm not sure how much interesting story we could have got from them.
I bet the whole "last free members of our species" thing was an oft-used excuse from Jara on cold dark nights though. :P
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44 was a mess I didn't buy any of it
WHAT CELL PHONE HAS AN OPERATOR BUTTON? ugh
I have called an operator on a cell phone. I think I dialed 411.