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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Chad32 on June 21, 2008, 07:49:23 PM
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Do the Andalites have the Yeerk Homeworld? Aftran in book 19, I think it was, said the Andalites would control the Yeerk Homeworld if they win, but I'm not sure if she meant they already do. Is it stated with absolute certainty the Andalites control the homeworld? I'm not sure. Not that it really matters, except maybe for fanfic writers.
Also, I know it's definitely stated that the Yeerks are on the Andalite Homeworld. Do you think they have nonsentient creatures infested there? I know Yeerks can infest horses, so it's not just sentient beings.
What do you think of these two things? I wanted to combine these two questions into one thread.
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The way I understand things is that the Andalites have a blockade around the Yeerk homeworld, I don't remember where in the series that is specificly stated, maybe the Chronicles or the series, but I know that its in there.
Yes in book #8 Alloran states that the Yeerks are on the Andalite homeworld now, but I believe that became a KASU because she NEVER did anything to advance that plot point along, she through it out the window, like Jake's thought speak in book #1... although there was that one Andalite officer in book #18 that was a traitor...
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I always loved how Aftran was a "decent" Yeerk and that traitor Andalite whose name escapes me in #18 was an "indecent" Andalite, gotta love those shades of grey x3
I know it's mentioned a couple of times but I think in Visser Edriss mentions something about "taking back the pools that spawned us"...and I definitely remember the imagery of Andalite ships orbiting the Yeerk homeworld. What's weird is that in #54 K.A. writes that some Yeerks contacted the homeworld and received orders to fight back after the Pool Ship was surrendered. Maybe that's a KASU, since how the hell would the Yeerks on the homeworld have a way to contact people outside? Maybe secretly? The Council of Thirteen seems to be...someplace else, a ship or something, but that's never made clear.
As for the Andalite homeworld, it's interesting to think of them infesting nonsentient species. Even Visser Three has that one morph from one of the Andalite moons...what the heck was that thing, a madrut? Did I make that up just now? XD;
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no, you're right. the madrut is a creature from the oceans on one of the andalite homeworld's moons.
he also has a kafit bird.
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The Yeerk probably have Andalites in their side... not necessarily hosts because Andalites will find it hard to conceal kandrona's in the Andalite homeworld... just like the traitor in number 18.... :)
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I agree the Yeerk Homeworld thing might be KASU. We're led to believe that the Andalites may have the YHM blockaded, yet in 54 the Yeerks on Earth get orders from the home world.
Write it off as KASU, I guess. The fanfic writers can sway in whichever direction suits them.
It does kind of make sense for the Andalites to secure the Homeworld in the beginning of the war to prevent more escapes.
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the andalites might allow communication, or the yeerks might be sneakier then the andalites realise. Not everything has to be a KASU, but this probally is.
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I can't remember which book off the top of my head, but I know it is mentioned at least once that the Andalites have a bunch of ships orbiting the Yeerk planet, ready to start blasting it at the first sign of trouble. Only a relatively small number of Yeerks escaped originally, but they then picked up approximately a quarter of a million Yeerks to store on board their stolen ship until more hosts could be found. We can therefore assume that most of the original Yeerk population was left behind on the planet.
Alloran did say in book 8 that they were on "the homeworld" but it is unclear what he meant by that. He could have simply been talking about the traitor introduced in book 18. Since it was never mentioned (even at the end of the series) that the Yeerks had made any attempts against the Andalite planet, we can assume that it was an exaggeration or a KASU. The Yeerks always planned to take the Andalite homeworld, but it is implied that would be their next goal after taking Earth, since Earth would have provided more than enough host bodies.
And Ax was stupid in book 18 for assuming that the Yeerks were invading his homeworld just because Visser Three morphed a Kafit bird. It was made clear in the Andalite Chronicles that many young Andalites in the military acquire Kafit birds, so Alloran probably acquired one years ago, as well as many of his other morphs that we see Visser Three using.
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yeah i assumed that, but i guess he got heated up in the moment, kinda like if someone from the other team was wearing your teams jersey as disrepect,
HEY GET OF MY ANDALITE ANIMALS YOU FILTHY YEERK!
*waves foam finger*
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He was just psyching Ax.... :P plus the fact that Alloran mentions something about Yeerks in the Andalite Homeworld....
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i mean i always thought V3 needed a bird morph and that happended to be the only one he had, i never thought he used it to make the andalite bandits mad
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i mean i always thought V3 needed a bird morph and that happended to be the only one he had, i never thought he used it to make the andalite bandits mad
Maybe it was both. It could have been the only one, and he knew it would annoy the Andalite bandits.
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i mean i always thought V3 needed a bird morph and that happended to be the only one he had, i never thought he used it to make the andalite bandits mad
Maybe it was both. It could have been the only one, and he knew it would annoy the Andalite bandits.
This is what I think also, and also partially because I think it was an act of desperation at the same time (he thought was surrounded, it was probably the first thing that came to his mind). I'm doubtful that it was the only bird morph though.
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i mean i always thought V3 needed a bird morph and that happended to be the only one he had, i never thought he used it to make the andalite bandits mad
Maybe it was both. It could have been the only one, and he knew it would annoy the Andalite bandits.
two birds with one stone ;]
had to do it
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About DNA of animals from the Andalite planet(s), did you think about this:
Visser 3 has Alloran as host... Alloran had the morphing power before he became a host... so he already morphed before... and of course he needed DNA, so took the DNA he could find: DNA of animals from his own planet! Even Ax said that Kafit is one of the first morph Andalites try. So Visser 3 must use old DNA Alloran took at the beginning of the war...
In fact, what is strange is that Ax seems not having any morph from his own planet...
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I just reread book four, and Visser Three says that since he has the bandits, Visser One's trip was meaningless and she could return to the homeworld.
I think there's more evidence to indicate the Andalites haven't secured the Yeerk homeworld.
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I think you mean book 5
About DNA of animals from the Andalite planet(s), did you think about this:
Visser 3 has Alloran as host... Alloran had the morphing power before he became a host... so he already morphed before... and of course he needed DNA, so took the DNA he could find: DNA of animals from his own planet! Even Ax said that Kafit is one of the first morph Andalites try. So Visser 3 must use old DNA Alloran took at the beginning of the war...
In fact, what is strange is that Ax seems not having any morph from his own planet...
Yeah I think everybody (except the animorphs and ax) thought of that.
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Sometimes, Animorphs don't think a lot ^_^ lol
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Yeah, book five and not book four. Oops. :P
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I just occurred to me that blue fur is a weird adaptation, unless there is something about the Andalite flora I am forgetting.
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I just occurred to me that blue fur is a weird adaptation, unless there is something about the Andalite flora I am forgetting.
Grass on the Andalite homeworld is mostly blue. Since all they eat is grass, this diet may effect their hair color. On the other hand, if that were true Ax's hair should have become green.
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Cool, I couldnt remember the grass color, but that makes sense, blue grass, blends in.
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actually it's more blue green...does that blend with blue and tan? and what about females? they're blue-violetish.
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Heh, you're right Daphnes... like the pink flamingos when they eat prawn... :p
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What does this have to do with Flamingo's?
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I just occurred to me that blue fur is a weird adaptation, unless there is something about the Andalite flora I am forgetting.
Grass on the Andalite homeworld is mostly blue. Since all they eat is grass, this diet may effect their hair color. On the other hand, if that were true Ax's hair should have become green.
did you read everything?
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maybe its merely evolutionary adaptive and not actually effecting their pigmentation
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Like blending in to protect themselves from predators...which I think someone already mentioned on here. Also I realized this point is strengthened because I remember reading in the Ellimist Chronicles, how the Andalites had an abundance of creatures that preyed on them back in their prehistoric past, so it makes sense that they'd need that camouflage along with 360 vision and a wickedly sharp and fast tail blade.
Though I think all those traits are kind evolutionary overkill if you ask me lol. Most prey animals on earth have one sometimes two strong attributes, but they seldom have THAT much firepower. After all, the ecosystems on the planet have to balance out, do they not?
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yeah...actually, where did all those predators go?
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Lol I now think we have our answer to that question, hun.
Though on a more serious note, they probably went extinct like many animals on Earth do over the course of millions of years. Extinction doesn't just happen due to us ya know? ;)
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so i wonder why the andalites went into overload on the defensive end...
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Yeah, it doesn't exactly fit the way evolution works most of the time. And yeah, even though it's a different planet...still, the basic rules and principles should pretty much be the same everywhere.
I was once heard a scientist say, "Evolution doesn't always produce the best solution, but a better one". Then again in sci fi certain liberties are taken to ensure a good story heh.
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I was once heard a scientist say, "Evolution doesn't always produce the best solution, but a better one". Then again in sci fi certain liberties are taken to ensure a good story heh.
yes the laws of the universe are the same every where and therefore most species would be ahem... "OXYGEN BREATHING"
sorry it's just that people keep mentioning species breathing different elements on other planets and I think that would be very very rare. Anyway in "Visser" it metions that they took back the Yeerk Homeworld at somepoint and I think when Alloran said "They're on the (Andalite) homeworld" he ment contacts like the traitor at the battle of Leera after all as mentioned earlier it would be hard to hide a Yeerk pool on the Andalite homeworld. On a final note Alloran was in a senior position when the morphing power was invented he possed the power I am sure but I don't think he returned home to acure the Krafit bird I think he learned to morph in a dome ship.
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i wonder what happened to the Andalite traitors
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i imagine they are a small minority, if caught, most likely executed. but meh, cant happen too often.
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unless they fled....and are working with the Kelbrids! hehe
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>:D buwahahaha!
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The way I understand things is that the Andalites have a blockade around the Yeerk homeworld, I don't remember where in the series that is specificly stated, maybe the Chronicles or the series, but I know that its in there.
Yes in book #8 Alloran states that the Yeerks are on the Andalite homeworld now, but I believe that became a KASU because she NEVER did anything to advance that plot point along, she through it out the window, like Jake's thought speak in book #1... although there was that one Andalite officer in book #18 that was a traitor...
Why don't they land on YeerkWorld, grab some Yeerk DNA samples, and use those to create a Quantum Virus that would kill ONLY Yeerks?
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The way I understand things is that the Andalites have a blockade around the Yeerk homeworld, I don't remember where in the series that is specificly stated, maybe the Chronicles or the series, but I know that its in there.
Yes in book #8 Alloran states that the Yeerks are on the Andalite homeworld now, but I believe that became a KASU because she NEVER did anything to advance that plot point along, she through it out the window, like Jake's thought speak in book #1... although there was that one Andalite officer in book #18 that was a traitor...
Why don't they land on YeerkWorld, grab some Yeerk DNA samples, and use those to create a Quantum Virus that would kill ONLY Yeerks?
That would involve the andalites invading the yeerk homeworld. Which would be really hard to do...
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The way I understand things is that the Andalites have a blockade around the Yeerk homeworld, I don't remember where in the series that is specificly stated, maybe the Chronicles or the series, but I know that its in there.
Yes in book #8 Alloran states that the Yeerks are on the Andalite homeworld now, but I believe that became a KASU because she NEVER did anything to advance that plot point along, she through it out the window, like Jake's thought speak in book #1... although there was that one Andalite officer in book #18 that was a traitor...
Why don't they land on YeerkWorld, grab some Yeerk DNA samples, and use those to create a Quantum Virus that would kill ONLY Yeerks?
That would involve the andalites invading the yeerk homeworld. Which would be really hard to do...
What military forces do the Yeerks have on their homeworld after the founders of the Yeerk Empire fled the homeworld with several stolen ships and 250,000 Yeerks?
I was imagining a raid rather then an occupation.
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Why don't they land on YeerkWorld, grab some Yeerk DNA samples, and use those to create a Quantum Virus that would kill ONLY Yeerks?
The yeerks won't let just anybody on their homeworld, it would extremely hard for the andalites to get on the yeerk homeworld. Also, the quatum virus doesn't work like that.