Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: sundi on June 20, 2008, 07:49:13 PM
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At one point we are told 60% of the members of the sharing are voluntary controllers, so I pose this question to you
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no way, idc what they are offering me, i would fight untill blood vessels popped in my head
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Depends on the Yeerk. If it's one of the Yeerks that will torture a host for no apparent reason, then no, definitely not. If it's one of the members of the peace movement, or one that simply doesn't care, then maybe.
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hmm...maybe. I don't mind not having a choice in the decisions I make. Whenever I do have a choice it hurts my head thinking about which to choose.
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a voluntary thing my be more calm, but i like the fight
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Did this start up because of what I said in another thread?
Having someone in my head to help me ace tests, and cause fewer accidents at work would be cool. It would also be cool to fly through outerspace with a Yeerk to help me fly.
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yeerks are meanies though! thats why i like em!
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Why is Visser Three's tail blade backwards, anyway? Ax and Elfangor's tailblades pointed forward, but Alloran's tailblade curves back.
Sorry for offtopic-ness.
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It wouldn't be so bad if it was a member of the peace movement. Might even be good company.
So basically:
During the war, I wouldn't have been voluntary, but I'd try to negociate with my Yeerk to join the peace movement. If he agreed, I'd become voluntary. If he didn't agree, and continued to try and break me, then I'd fight him.
After the war, I imagine that the Yeerks were allowed to keep their voluntary hosts, and anyone willing to become hosts could do so, and have special conditions. If the Yeerk didn't agree to those conditions, then too bad, no host for you! In that case, I'd be a voluntary on the condition that I could stay on Earth, and have control when I'm with my loved ones.
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I would never want to be infested by a Yeerk in the first place. I prefer privacy. :)
Good or Bad Yeerk, I'll never want one, even if it meant a higher understanding and intelligence, (two minds work better than one, right?)
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The Yeerks are invading, whatever happens I would never voulentarily be a part of that.
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Hell no, I would never be voluntary!
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I would never be a voluntary controller, and anyone who would is essentially selling out the entire human race. If I did get taken and my Yeerk happened to be part of the Yeerk peace movement (or if I could convince my Yeerk to join) then I wouldn't fight, but besides that I'd fight until I was free or dead. I'm not going to let some evil slug steal my life.
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couldnt have said it better myself mike :]
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If the Yeerk were a real butthead I'd fight, but I hate to say it, I'd probably be voluntary x3 Maybe it's just the idea of knowing there's life out there besides us. Maybe the Yeerk would be interesting company if it were a decent person. But then again, I'd probably never buy into the culty stuff in The Sharing, too creeptastic. I'd want them to come out and say, yes, we are aliens ;D And even then, I probably wouldn't believe them unless they physically showed me evidence. Like shoving my head into sludgy water, that'd be greeeeat.
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i'll would escape and try to fight.. probely die but still fight.
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i'll would escape and try to fight.. probely die but still fight.
"Jara Hammee say 'Free or dead!'" ;D
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i'll would escape and try to fight.. probely die but still fight.
"Jara Hammee say 'Free or dead!'" ;D
Jara Hammee is a hork-banjir that if escaped again, it would be simple to find it again and hork-banjir are natural pasifists.. it takes a lot more movation to get them to fight.
humans on the other hand, can blend in with the crowd and have one thing greater than any other species has: our capaitaty for haterd. we've been killing each other in wars since time begain and since then, it is safe to say that we got the hang of it. and really the only thing that brings up together to kill an invader.
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Actually, the Hork-Bajir used to be pacifists, they aren't anymore. Before the Yeerks came, the Hork-Bajir were "too stupid to know how to kill" as Dak Hammee put it. Now that they have learned how to kill, and have a heavy motivation to do so, they don't seem to mind doing it. After all, the free Hork-Bajir often attacked Yeerk camps to free more of their kind, and they also fought to protect their home from invasion.
Sad as it is to say it, the Hork-Bajir aren't pacifists anymore...
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Actually, the Hork-Bajir used to be pacifists, they aren't anymore. Before the Yeerks came, the Hork-Bajir were "too stupid to know how to kill" as Dak Hammee put it. Now that they have learned how to kill, and have a heavy motivation to do so, they don't seem to mind doing it. After all, the free Hork-Bajir often attacked Yeerk camps to free more of their kind, and they also fought to protect their home from invasion.
Sad as it is to say it, the Hork-Bajir aren't pacifists anymore...
movation depends on the indivudal, there has to be will to surivie and willingness to risk their neck out of go and find other people.
the main problem with hork-banjir and the advangue of humans is simple. this is our homeworld and no one cares about a guy walking down the sidewalk that much. however, people will shout and scream in alarm once seeing a hork-banjir do the same thing.
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All living things are concerned with their own survival, especially sentient beings, which the Hork-Bajir are. They are also very loyal to their own, and part of their survival depended on increasing their numbers. As Toby explained to the Animorphs, the free Hork-Bajir would need vast numbers when Earth was finally saved, so that the humans would be wary of trying to get rid of them.
And somehow I doubt the free Hork-Bajir were making raids on public Yeerk facilities.
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It was probably a hidden facility, since they DO keep Hork-Bajir in there. Plus, if it was made in public, the Animorphs would have probably heard of it a little earlier.
But thanks to Cassie, the Hork Bajir were given rights, no Hork-Bajir and human conflicts (except anti-alien junkies) existed.
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I'm going to have to agree with the majority on this. I wouldn't become a voluntary host during the war. But after the war I possibly could if I found a decent one who was part of the peace movement and would be willing to respect my personal beliefs in individualism and other liberal ideas (though they might enjoy my foreign policy ideas that tend to fall under Realism*).
*I love my International Relations class.
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All you people say it might be cool to have a Yeerk in your head. What is wrong with you? You think it would be good company or a way to better yourself in some way. That is how the sharing got people. Promising to make you greater than you were. Furthermore, Yeerks tend to take full control. Why would you sacrifice your freedom? Why on Earth would you choose to change yourself instantly. Taking the quick fix is stupid. Better yourself on your own. There is no reason to become a controller peace movement or otherwise. You are giving up your head. Its kinda messed up. If a Yeerk was going to be in your head and not bother you, then why should it be there in the first place. Why should you even go through with it. Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
Wow I just went into a Rachelish rant.
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All you people say it might be cool to have a Yeerk in your head. What is wrong with you? You think it would be good company or a way to better yourself in some way. That is how the sharing got people. Promising to make you greater than you were. Furthermore, Yeerks tend to take full control. Why would you sacrifice your freedom? Why on Earth would you choose to change yourself instantly. Taking the quick fix is stupid. Better yourself on your own. There is no reason to become a controller peace movement or otherwise. You are giving up your head. Its kinda messed up. If a Yeerk was going to be in your head and not bother you, then why should it be there in the first place. Why should you even go through with it. Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
Wow I just went into a Rachelish rant.
Wow, wolfev, you sound like an Andalite.
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All you people say it might be cool to have a Yeerk in your head. What is wrong with you? You think it would be good company or a way to better yourself in some way. That is how the sharing got people. Promising to make you greater than you were. Furthermore, Yeerks tend to take full control. Why would you sacrifice your freedom? Why on Earth would you choose to change yourself instantly. Taking the quick fix is stupid. Better yourself on your own. There is no reason to become a controller peace movement or otherwise. You are giving up your head. Its kinda messed up. If a Yeerk was going to be in your head and not bother you, then why should it be there in the first place. Why should you even go through with it. Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
Wow I just went into a Rachelish rant.
Wow, wolfev, you sound like an Andalite.
Hahaha!
Why do it? A favor to a nice Yeerk for one. I'm not sure what I could do by myself that would equate having two brains in my head.
There is the fact that the host does have a whole lot of benefit. It's not like the Yeerk can enhance very many attributes like strength or speed. However, it's having another person in my head that could help with some thing.
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All you people say it might be cool to have a Yeerk in your head. What is wrong with you? You think it would be good company or a way to better yourself in some way. That is how the sharing got people. Promising to make you greater than you were. Furthermore, Yeerks tend to take full control. Why would you sacrifice your freedom? Why on Earth would you choose to change yourself instantly. Taking the quick fix is stupid. Better yourself on your own. There is no reason to become a controller peace movement or otherwise. You are giving up your head. Its kinda messed up. If a Yeerk was going to be in your head and not bother you, then why should it be there in the first place. Why should you even go through with it. Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
Wow I just went into a Rachelish rant.
Wow, wolfev, you sound like an Andalite.
Hahaha!
Why do it? A favor to a nice Yeerk for one. I'm not sure what I could do by myself that would equate having two brains in my head.
There is the fact that the host does have a whole lot of benefit. It's not like the Yeerk can enhance very many attributes like strength or speed. However, it's having another person in my head that could help with some thing.
We all said that if we were to allow a Yeerk in our head it would be the ones that are like the peace movement and want to live in mutualism symbiosis with the host instead of being parasites. Now if we could only get the parasitic Yeerks we'll fight back (okay, I'd probally run). Remember to never judge a person (or Yeerk) by the actions of their fellow people (or Yeerks). Just because most of the time you think you think "evil mind controlling slug" doesn't mean all of them are.
Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
So if I have the right to keep my mind to myself, don't I also have the right to let a Yeerk live in it by my own choice?
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Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
So if I have the right to keep my mind to myself, don't I also have the right to let a Yeerk live in it by my own choice?
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You're apparently not supposed to choose that over the other.
It's like saying that even though you have the right to vote, you also have the right to NOT vote. But you aren't supposed to excercise your right to not vote. ::)
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We all said that if we were to allow a Yeerk in our head it would be the ones that are like the peace movement and want to live in mutualism symbiosis with the host instead of being parasites.
I never said I wanted that kind of yeerk. I'd let a mean yeerk inside my head. I'd let any yeerk (except for maybe esplin 9466) enter my head. And I don't care if you guys think that's wrong. I would and that's the truth.
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Sure you have the right to put an alien into your head. But why would you? You all talk about benefits. I can imagine you could get info on technology, but you don't really get it. The Yeerk does all the work. Its like being replaced by another person. Yeerks don't go into peoples heads to have a fun time. They go to control you, thats why your called a controller. You think it will give you some control, but why should it. You're at its mercy.
You might think you could just let the Yeerk live in your head and not become inolved. Why would you settle for any less control of yourself than you have now? Whatever happened to the solve your own problems mentality? Why lets a Yeerk do it?
So yeah, you have the right to let a Yeerk crawl into your head, but the Yeerk has no right to control you. Unless of course you give them that right and allow yourself to be controlled by another being. That must be real easy, to let someone else live your life. Sounds like the thoughts of a weak quitter.
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Keep your mind to yourself. No one has any right to it but yourself.
So if I have the right to keep my mind to myself, don't I also have the right to let a Yeerk live in it by my own choice?
You're apparently not supposed to choose that over the other.
It's like saying that even though you have the right to vote, you also have the right to NOT vote. But you aren't supposed to excercise your right to not vote. ::)
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First off I think there is a difference between property rights (aka, your head) and civil rights (right to vote).
However I'm not going to argue about that because admittedly that was just a last minute thought of mine I put in to show that using the "right to your own mind" thing was a bit of a flawed argument since if its "my mind" I could do what I want with it, including letting a Yeerk in. But like I said it was a last-minute thing so I'm not going to worry about it to much.
We all said that if we were to allow a Yeerk in our head it would be the ones that are like the peace movement and want to live in mutualism symbiosis with the host instead of being parasites.
I never said I wanted that kind of yeerk. I'd let a mean yeerk inside my head. I'd let any yeerk (except for maybe esplin 9466) enter my head. And I don't care if you guys think that's wrong. I would and that's the truth.
Eh, to each his own.
Sure you have the right to put an alien into your head. But why would you? You all talk about benefits. I can imagine you could get info on technology, but you don't really get it. The Yeerk does all the work. Its like being replaced by another person. Yeerks don't go into peoples heads to have a fun time. They go to control you, thats why your called a controller. You think it will give you some control, but why should it. You're at its mercy.
You might think you could just let the Yeerk live in your head and not become inolved. Why would you settle for any less control of yourself than you have now? Whatever happened to the solve your own problems mentality? Why lets a Yeerk do it?
So yeah, you have the right to let a Yeerk crawl into your head, but the Yeerk has no right to control you. Unless of course you give them that right and allow yourself to be controlled by another being. That must be real easy, to let someone else live your life. Sounds like the thoughts of a weak quitter.
You don't seem to get the point of letting in Yeerks who don't want to control us, like the Yeerk Peace Faction/Movement/whatever its called. They want a friendly,cooperating relationship with the host. The ones that would want to control most us wouldn't let in voluntarily. Or at least I won't.
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Sure you have the right to put an alien into your head. But why would you? You all talk about benefits. I can imagine you could get info on technology, but you don't really get it. The Yeerk does all the work. Its like being replaced by another person. Yeerks don't go into peoples heads to have a fun time. They go to control you, thats why your called a controller. You think it will give you some control, but why should it. You're at its mercy.
You might think you could just let the Yeerk live in your head and not become inolved. Why would you settle for any less control of yourself than you have now? Whatever happened to the solve your own problems mentality? Why lets a Yeerk do it?
So yeah, you have the right to let a Yeerk crawl into your head, but the Yeerk has no right to control you. Unless of course you give them that right and allow yourself to be controlled by another being. That must be real easy, to let someone else live your life. Sounds like the thoughts of a weak quitter.
I never said benefits. I don't care if my situation becomes worse. And it can completely control me if it wants to. You can call me a weak quitter if you want. I don't care.
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I would never want to be infected by a Yeerk but if i absolutely had to be infested but I could choose which Yeer kwould crawl into my head. I'd choose one from the Yeerk Peace movement
1. Because he wont be evil and I'll probably still have some control over myself
2. I wont get pwned by the Animorphs whenever they invade the Yeerk pool
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Don't forget that a lot of us (or at least me) are thinking of a situation AFTER the war, where things like this would be monitored. Where the Yeerks wouldn't have the rights to keep people in cages. So in that case, they'd sort of HAVE to let the hosts have some freedom, if the host wants it. Because when the Yeerk has to feed, if there are no cages, then the host can just walk away.
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One reason I can imagine it would be kinda pleasant to have a yeerk inside your head, provided they are nice enough is a companionship that runs deep. If anyone has read the His Dark Materials trilogy, all humans in that universe have daemons (animals that can talk etc that have been with them from birth and who are an extension of the human's soul almost).
To be honest if I were to allow a yeerk into my head, I would make it clear from the outset that I would be in control of my body and the yeerk may observe (which is a better deal than being a blind, deaf slug) and when I allowed it, it would take control.
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One reason I can imagine it would be kinda pleasant to have a yeerk inside your head, provided they are nice enough is a companionship that runs deep. If anyone has read the His Dark Materials trilogy, all humans in that universe have daemons (animals that can talk etc that have been with them from birth and who are an extension of the human's soul almost).
To be honest if I were to allow a yeerk into my head, I would make it clear from the outset that I would be in control of my body and the yeerk may observe (which is a better deal than being a blind, deaf slug) and when I allowed it, it would take control.
that entirely depends on the yeerk. a dominate yeerk will simply laugh at you and use you as a puppet while others may be more leanate. i wonder how much control does the yeerk have on the brain of it's host.. we know moter skills, memory, and launage are all controlled but can a yeerk control the vial parts of the brain? for a host to go to sleep, make a heart stop beating? lower or raise one's body tempeter? much like the Symbiotes in the Marvel universe or Cortana in the Halo universe, they both have increased capablties on effecting the host nerveus system beyond just simple mind control.
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I wish there was a 'maybe' option on the poll. I think that it depends entirely on the situation.
However, I think that I would resist as hard as I possibly could, up until the point I was actually infested. At that point it would depend entirely on the Yeerk. If it was a particularly cruel Yeerk I would fight, but if it was a Peace Movement Yeerk or even an Empire Yeerk who wasn't cruel I wouldn't fight.
I mean, if I'm only going to have an hour or so of freedom every three days, I'd much rather spend it on a sofa watching tv instead of in a cage. Just saying...
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I wish there was a 'maybe' option on the poll. I think that it depends entirely on the situation.
However, I think that I would resist as hard as I possibly could, up until the point I was actually infested. At that point it would depend entirely on the Yeerk. If it was a particularly cruel Yeerk I would fight, but if it was a Peace Movement Yeerk or even an Empire Yeerk who wasn't cruel I wouldn't fight.
I mean, if I'm only going to have an hour or so of freedom every three days, I'd much rather spend it on a sofa watching tv instead of in a cage. Just saying...
yeah but theres some glory in screaming and crying in the cages, imagine the disgust your peers would have you for
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honestly I don't care what others think about me, and I don't see the glory in war and fighting.
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I answered "no" too... I wouldn't like to help destroying a planet.
But to help a Yeerk I like... well, I always wanna help friends, so even if it's a Yeerk, no problem... But poor guy, my brain is too strange... he'd become crazy.
If I was enslaved, I'd try to confuse my Yeerk or become friend with him... to be a resistant ;)
A cool Controller is a resistant ^_^
... even if the heroes of my fanfictions are never resistant ;)
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help destroy our planet?
technically we're already destroying our planet.
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Yes, of course... and I don't like doing that...
Sometimes, I dream about destroy all humanity to save the planet... but Humans do sooooo good donuts!! lol
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Well, first to be a voluntary host, you would probably go through the Sharing. I would never join the Sharing because it sounds rediculously lame. But aside from that, I agree with Jake, when people start talking about being a part of something bigger than yourself, thats how racism and wars and bigotry are started.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but you sound like I wouldn't know what the sharing really was when I become a controller. I'm not in it for anything the sharing promises. I just want a yeerk in my head.
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crap I forgot how to spell no.
Wait there it is
NO!
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I'd never go to the Sharing too ^_^' I don't like this kind of clubs... I'm too "antisocial", as said my teachers...
Without the war, to have a Yeerk in his head may be cool... think about the twin of Visser 3... He made money by using the Yeerk technology in Human society ;)
But of course, if you don't like your Yeerk or if he doesn't like you... it wouldn't work! lol
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If the question was would I want a yeerk, probably not. I hate needles, and I imagine I would freak having a yeerk crawling in and out of my ear, injecting itself into my brain.
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Not only does it depend on the Yeerk, but it also depends on what the Yeerk offers me. I mean, if they tell me that I must have a Yeerk in my head, or my Grandmother would be killed, then I'd choose infestation. However, I'd really hate to turn against my own race...
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definitely voluntary if it was a peaceful one, such as in #29.
giving the gift of eyesight and hearing is always nice.
of course, the best action would just to give the yeerks the morphing power, then they could morph humans (and to avoid duplications, they could do Ax's technique in book #4)
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heck no but i am the type of kid they're looking for little loner children
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I must admit that if The Sharing had been a club when I was in high school I probably would have joined and probably would have been tricked into becoming a voluntary controller. I just had that sort of personality. I kind of went with whatever my friends were doing, and I didn't want to be the dissenting voice. Since we were all very active in the school I see us joining The Sharing and becoming full members together, not realizing our plight until too late.
Now, it would depend on the situation. As was mentioned above, it depends on the situation. If someone had a gun pointed at me or someone I loved I would take infestation. If I was guaranteed a YPM Yeerk I would probably accept infestation. If I were in the Sharing nowadays and got to the "full member" bit I don't think I would become a voluntary, but at that point its too late for you regardless - I'd just be involuntary.
So basically, no matter how you look at it, I'm screwed. :-\
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I would never be a voluntary controller; the chances that I would have become one, not likely. I really don't join any clubs, no matter if I want to go or not so I defintiely wouldn't get tricked by joining the sharing. but I am one of those sad lonely people, to be honest. I don't get along with a majority of people, so I'm really ignored most of the time. I sound along like one of those people who would have went to the sharing if nothing else worked out.
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No way, no how :P
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um...this is beside the point, but does anyone notice something wrong with the poll. 7 people said yes, 25 people said no, and yet it says total voters: 31. Last I checked 7+25 doesn't equal 31...
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um...this is beside the point, but does anyone notice something wrong with the poll. 7 people said yes, 25 people said no, and yet it says total voters: 31. Last I checked 7+25 doesn't equal 31...
lol. I guess RAF is not a math fan. Shanker, you may have to tutor RAF.
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Shanker? what about me? I'm good at math...
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Maybe it just doesn't include yourself as a voter.
Anyways, this is off topic.
I have a question relating to the topic. Does anyone see the benefits to being a voluntary controller? Besides the fact you don't get locked up in a cage and can watch TV for a while on your own.. thats not a very good benefit.
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You don't get your butt kicked for trying to fight against them, although you are pretty much handing the Yeerks your life and a little extra freedom whereas to them you're still just as expendable.
If you had reason for access to Yeerk tech, like Taylor and all the reconstructive surgery she had, then I can see someone wanting to be voluntary, for sure.
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No. I would not. I don't like someone dictating what I can and cannot read, much less someone dictating how I move, speak, and whatnot. >:( :fighting0040: :sign0195:
I can be very willful, stubborn (a hallmark of my family) and . . . I have a temper. Poke a tiger repeatly, and you get the gist. I'd fight everyday. I wouldn't relent. Of course, if one of my loved ones (I have precious few now) was threatened, I would accept a Yeerk, but it wouldn't technically be voluntary. I would not break -- and I probably be killed instead of being infested.
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i'd just sing its a small world after all for hours and hours and hours...
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i'd just sing its a small world after all for hours and hours and hours...
Good battle tactic, Demos. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. . . .
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The Banana Phone song and John-Jacob would probably work, too. :P
Benefits, other than not having to sit in a cage for two hours every three days? I don't really see any. Your Yeerk probably wouldn't feel the need to torture you, though, given that you didn't have one of the sick, sadistic ones.
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I actually would be a voluntary controller as long as my relationship with my yeerk was symbiotic not parasitic I've always wanted another presence in my head like multiple personalities
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Maaaan, I can't imagine ever opting to have one of them in my head.
They would have to trick and catch me.
i'd just sing its a small world after all for hours and hours and hours...
Good battle tactic, Demos. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. . . .
Ahahahahah! How cool is that idea?! To drive the parasite insane with some crazy music.
Think I would do 'The Launch' by DJ Jean 24/7 if I was ever infested.
It used to drive my friends nuts. So why not the alien?!?
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Thats a good idea, but you'd end up going insane yourself!!
If you had reason for access to Yeerk tech, like Taylor and all the reconstructive surgery she had, then I can see someone wanting to be voluntary, for sure.
Yea thats true. Almost forgot about her..
and Chapman, being a voluntary controller to save his daughter. I really don't know if I'd have the strength to do that for someone...
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and Chapman, being a voluntary controller to save his daughter. I really don't know if I'd have the strength to do that for someone...
I wouldn't consider that voluntary, because he doesn't like having a yeerk in him. he just accepts it.
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and Chapman, being a voluntary controller to save his daughter. I really don't know if I'd have the strength to do that for someone...
I wouldn't consider that voluntary, because he doesn't like having a yeerk in him. he just accepts it.
Ah yea, thats true.
I also always wondered why the Yeerks never took Melissa anyway? I mean, they could have one willing host, or two unwilling hosts. Isn't two better than one?
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quality over quantity. what's the point of having two hosts, if you have more than twice the trouble of keeping them quiet?
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Maaaan, I can't imagine ever opting to have one of them in my head.
They would have to trick and catch me.
i'd just sing its a small world after all for hours and hours and hours...
Good battle tactic, Demos. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. . . .
Ahahahahah! How cool is that idea?! To drive the parasite insane with some crazy music.
Think I would do 'The Launch' by DJ Jean 24/7 if I was ever infested.
It used to drive my friends nuts. So why not the alien?!?
I just realized the host of that yeerk in Megamorphs #3, I believe, actually did something like that. Only something from King Leer.
Oh, and I never really considered Chapman voluntary.
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Maaaan, I can't imagine ever opting to have one of them in my head.
They would have to trick and catch me.
i'd just sing its a small world after all for hours and hours and hours...
Good battle tactic, Demos. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. . . .
Ahahahahah! How cool is that idea?! To drive the parasite insane with some crazy music.
Think I would do 'The Launch' by DJ Jean 24/7 if I was ever infested.
It used to drive my friends nuts. So why not the alien?!?
I just realized the host of that yeerk in Megamorphs #3, I believe, actually did something like that. Only something from King Leer.
Oh, and I never really considered Chapman voluntary.
Yeah, that Berryman guy was quoting the "Band of Brothers" scene from Henry V, and the rest of the play, he said he played the character Exeter but knew all the lines.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
I always thought that was kinda sad ;___; Where he's all like, oh god, I'll never be free...nope, the Animorphs will just make you never exist. All better! ::) Poor crazy Yeerk, wanting to kill Henry the Fifth just to shut up his host, which I bet wouldn't even work, it wouldn't just erase his host's memories if all the time travelers' pasts are buffered...
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maybe they'd do something with me that would mean something... not that anything means anything anyway
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How very philosophical ;D
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Maaaan, I can't imagine ever opting to have one of them in my head.
They would have to trick and catch me.
i'd just sing its a small world after all for hours and hours and hours...
Good battle tactic, Demos. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. . . .
Ahahahahah! How cool is that idea?! To drive the parasite insane with some crazy music.
Think I would do 'The Launch' by DJ Jean 24/7 if I was ever infested.
It used to drive my friends nuts. So why not the alien?!?
I just realized the host of that yeerk in Megamorphs #3, I believe, actually did something like that. Only something from King Leer.
Oh, and I never really considered Chapman voluntary.
Yeah, that Berryman guy was quoting the "Band of Brothers" scene from Henry V, and the rest of the play, he said he played the character Exeter but knew all the lines.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
I always thought that was kinda sad ;___; Where he's all like, oh god, I'll never be free...nope, the Animorphs will just make you never exist. All better! ::) Poor crazy Yeerk, wanting to kill Henry the Fifth just to shut up his host, which I bet wouldn't even work, it wouldn't just erase his host's memories if all the time travelers' pasts are buffered...
That ending was really powerful. And once again, Cassie makes the big bold instinctive move, for she didn't really know HOW it was going to play out. Fortunately, it all played out for good.
Thanks for sharing that Myitt. I always wondered what piece of Henry V that guy was annoying the Visser with. I can't don't have the tune, but I can read how the Visser got inspired to 'shut him up'.
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Here's Kenneth Branaugh doing a pretty damn good version of the speech from Henry V ^^ The movies always help give a sense of the emotion of the stuff in Shakespeare...becau se otherwise it's like..."'to be or not to be'? Oh, he wanted to commit suicide, wow, it makes sense now, what a whiny prat..." x3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvmLDkAgAM[/youtube]
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Depends, I defiantly wouldn't be voluntary at first, however if the yeerk was part of the peace movement I do believe I'd be more willing, not saying that I would like that ether. Someone Else having full access to my memories, and my thoughts is creepy.
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I wouldn't. To voluntarily give up your freedom, and then have you make your friends give up theirs? Uh-uh. Not gonna happen.
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Knowing what I know about the Yeerks from reading the books? No, of course I wouldn't become a voluntary controller. I'm too much of a control freak.
But let's face it, I doubt that the Yeerks/Sharing would be upfront and tell us anything about having all our control taken from us by an alien slug. And Yeerks who are sympathetic toward their hosts or are members of the peace movement are frowned upon, so we wouldn't know about that either. As far as I'm concerned, the Yeerks make sure that no one is well-informed enough to make an initial decision to become a Controller. The "voluntary" part must come later.
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I have enough voices in my head that if we all rallied together we could confuse the yeerk to death.
Seriously thought I'd probably be voluntary, you have to imagine that the people in the sharing aren't getting the whole story, they find out all the cool people they've been hanging out with are controlers and a very simple logic is posed to them: the yeerks come in peace and only want to borrow some bodies to help them out since they haven't got enough bodies of their own.
Maybe they don't say they're at war, maybe they don't say they're conquerers if they do, maybe they're the victims instead and they need you to help them. Tom once presses on Jake the issue of being part of something big that may well have been the yeerk campaign, you the host help them with something big, see the stars, you don't have to know you're trying to conquer the world because the yeerks could make a convincing argument that they weren't trying to conquer the world, just looking for recruits. If they wanted to conquer the world they'd just do it, they have the technology.
Visser 3 being a jerk is just a case of having a bad boss, nobody sees him before becoming a controller anyway, those who do, like Tom, become controllers whether they like it or not. But for the majority they're probably offered adventure, a star was/trek like adventure and most kids and young adults would jump for that, I myself if I didn't know there were andalites or anything like that would be all for joining the yeerks, and as others have said if the yeerk in control isn't a total jerk since you can't read the yeerk's mind the less you see of their "bigger scheme" the less reason you'd have to fight.
Being able to laugh and watch TV in the yeerk pool makes this theory hard to buy but I for one think that's what would have been the reasoning behind a lot of people choosing to be voluntary controllers, and your own yeerk could have explained away the screams if you bought their other lies why not buy this one: The Hork-bajir aren't intelligent, they're like chimps really, semi-sentient, they can't even speak full sentences, don't mind their cages, it's because of how dangerous they are. Screaming humans? Oh well some yeerks abuse their hosts and the hosts don't trust any yeerks after that, but can't be set free and so have to be tragically, contained while their new, nicer yeerk feeds until they realize that the yeerks are friends of humanity . . . speaking of friends, sit down and relax, watch Friends and don't make waves, little human.
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Yeah, if the Yeerk was nice enough I might have been ok with it. Fly around orbit, and do other stuff. I doubt I'd like the pool, and I definitely wouldn't like V3. Heck, me and my Yeerk might have debates on who was more afraid of the guy.
It really depends.
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Why is Visser Three's tail blade backwards, anyway? Ax and Elfangor's tailblades pointed forward, but Alloran's tailblade curves back.
Sorry for offtopic-ness.
Maybe some congenital illness...