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Title: thought speak
Post by: MoppingBear on August 18, 2009, 11:56:41 AM
i could understand the animorphs not being to thought speak while human, but why is it that andalites who morphed human couldnt thought speak either? it it had something to do with speach, then shouldnt they not have been able to thought speak while in parrot morph?
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: CDJV on August 18, 2009, 12:45:02 PM
Well, parrots don't actually speak, they mimic. They can be taught to say really interesitng things, but the parrot itself doesn't know what it's saying.

I'm guessing that all species of life would have the ability to utilize thought-speak, they simply haven't reached the level of evolution that allows themt o access that aprt of their brain. So, Andalites are evovled enoguh to use it as the main form of communication, while humans still ahve to use our mouths.

As for when in morph...it's possible that the morphing process allows the brain of the morphed animal to utilize that area of communication. I don't know how it would work, though. Perhaps morphing technology works using nano-technology.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: EscafilDevice on August 18, 2009, 01:13:02 PM
Couldn't Ax thought-speak in human morph in #35 during the restaurant scene?

I also remember Tobias thought-speaking to Jake in #47 when they approached the campers.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on August 18, 2009, 01:26:20 PM
Yeah, I think when Ax couldn't thought-speak in book 8, that was just a KASU.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: MoppingBear on August 18, 2009, 01:42:37 PM
i seem to recall it being an issue more than once... dont remember them ever being able to do it in morph, ill have to go back and check.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: tobiasthehawk on August 18, 2009, 05:35:39 PM
Yeah, I think when Ax couldn't thought-speak in book 8, that was just a KASU.


A horrible KASU that hung around for some time. ):
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: ThinkAgain on August 18, 2009, 05:42:25 PM
I'm guessing that all species of life would have the ability to utilize thought-speak, they simply haven't reached the level of evolution that allows themt o access that aprt of their brain. So, Andalites are evovled enoguh to use it as the main form of communication, while humans still ahve to use our mouths.

I don't think that's the case. In the Ellimist Chronicles, it's shown that during his time with the Andalites he had given them that ability to increase their chances at developing a complex society. Prior to that, it was said that the Andalites communicated with a form of hand signals/sign language.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: CDJV on August 18, 2009, 07:15:01 PM
No, what I'm saying is that everything has a part of their brain that allows for thought-speak, but we don't have the gene or whatever that allows us to access it. So It's basically vestigal.

The Andalites still would have had that part of the brain even while they used sign-language, but they too wouldn't have the gene that accesses it.

Also, I'm pretty sure that everybody can hear thought speak, just not speak in it.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: VisserZer0 on August 18, 2009, 07:52:09 PM
Andalites can use thought-speak while in human morph. It's just a morph for them. It's the same reason that the Animorphs can speak it when they morph Hork-Bajir.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: MoppingBear on August 18, 2009, 08:15:10 PM
which makes perfect sense, except when ax and tobias morphed humans and couldnt thought speak.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: VisserZer0 on August 18, 2009, 08:18:15 PM
Yeah, but did it ever actually say that they couldn't use thought-speak or did they just choose not to?
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: tobiasthehawk on August 18, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
which makes perfect sense, except when ax and tobias morphed humans and couldnt thought speak.

<Tobias?> Ax wondered in thought-speak. <0h, Tobias! This cloud candy is
superb. It is otherworldly. The way it melts on the tongue. It has mass,
yet it is weightless . . .> 

That is from book 33 at the Sharing event when Ax was in human morph and thought speaking to Tobias.
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: Yarin on August 18, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
It's just a form of telepathic communication that's dormant in us
Title: Re: thought speak
Post by: voodooqueen126 on August 18, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
The Ellimist Chronicles made it pretty clear that Toomin gave them thoughtspeak this makes sense as thoughtspeak seems unlikely to evolve naturally.
And as for the whole 'evolutionary levels' that is just not how genetics work.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvolutionaryLevels
More likely thoughtspeak is the genetic equivalent of blue eyes: every single blue eyed human on the planet is descended from one person living near the black sea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_color#Blue
Since Andalites got their thoughtspeak from Toomin all thoughtspeaking Andalites are his descendents. This raises amazing possibilities for fanfiction and i will use this concept in my adaptation of Korean Pearl's Elemaki....You heard it first from me.