Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: dolphin4077 on February 23, 2009, 10:31:55 PM
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It's mentioned in the last book that Jake, Cassie, and Marco all write memoirs, but I doubt they told the public whole story; they couldn't if they weren't going to mention the Chee. What else do you think they left out? My guess: most stuff involving Ellimist and Crayak, time travel, David, and that part in #35 involving Hanson.
Side note on David: Assuming David's parents survived the war, do you think they ever tried to find out what happened to their son?
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I never thought about it, but if I were David's dad I would go to Marco or whoever I could get to easiest to ask them about him. I wonder how his parents would feel about their decision.
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My guess is that they said David was either killed in action or made into a controller and...killed in action.
And Marco might have said that they were helped by robots, but he also might have said they left. or that they don't know where they're hding now.
I think that they wrote about different stuff. marco probably wrote about the power and fun of being an Animorph, while Cassie would have more of an educational book, since the title sounds like something about controlling insticts and such.
Did Jack right a book? I don't remember that.
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Jake had a book. He said he hated writing it and that it made him more money than he needed.
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I'd imagine they told David's parents that he died in combat, I highly doubt that they'd tell them what really happened. More for their sake than to preserve David's good name mind you.
As for the rest, they could very easily leave out the Ellimist unless they want to found a new religion, which is exactly what would happen if people knew the Ellimist existed whether or not the Animoprhs wanted it, and as for the Chee they can simply say "Yeerk colaborators" since that's essentially what Erek would be seen as, after all he still had a Yeerk in his head, it just never knew what was going on. :P
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My guess: most stuff involving Ellimist and Crayak, time travel, David, and that part in #35 involving Hanson.
*snickers*
I agree they probably had to leave out pretty much everything about Ellimist and Crayak, as well as the Time Matrix and all Ellimist-aided time- and space-travel. Sario rip-related time travel, a la #11 and MM#2, they probably could have included, although I don't know whether they'd want to mention being directly responsible for the death of the dinosaurs and the evolution of mankind. ^^()
Didn't Marco mention ghost-writing his memoir, or am I imagining that? =X Anyway, I imagine his would have been the best read. A more light-hearted take on things, and if I remember correctly, it sold better than Cassie's. =P
As for David... I doubt they mentioned him. If they did, his parents would know what happened to him; if not, I don't know whether "He died in battle, but we didn't write about that in the book because it was too sad to remember" would really work if his parents asked one of them what happened. =X I'd assume they would at least have to tell part of the truth, or deny having ever made him an Animorph in the first place.
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I'm sure Jake's memoir was downright depressing.
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My guess: most stuff involving Ellimist and Crayak, time travel, David, and that part in #35 involving Hanson.
*snickers*
I agree they probably had to leave out pretty much everything about Ellimist and Crayak, as well as the Time Matrix and all Ellimist-aided time- and space-travel. Sario rip-related time travel, a la #11 and MM#2, they probably could have included, although I don't know whether they'd want to mention being directly responsible for the death of the dinosaurs and the evolution of mankind. ^^()
Didn't Marco mention ghost-writing his memoir, or am I imagining that? =X Anyway, I imagine his would have been the best read. A more light-hearted take on things, and if I remember correctly, it sold better than Cassie's. =P
As for David... I doubt they mentioned him. If they did, his parents would know what happened to him; if not, I don't know whether "He died in battle, but we didn't write about that in the book because it was too sad to remember" would really work if his parents asked one of them what happened. =X I'd assume they would at least have to tell part of the truth, or deny having ever made him an Animorph in the first place.
Denying that David had ever been an Animorph wouldn't work . . . because the Yeerks knew he'd been made an Animorph, and thus David's parents, having been controllers, would have known at least that much, too.
Also, depending on what happened at the end of #48, there's at least some chance that David survived till the end of the war. How would David's parents have reacted if they ever actually found him?
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^ True enough. ^^() I suppose telling them the truth, or at least most of the truth, would be their best shot....
Although really, rats live for, what, six years at the most, in captivity? *checks wiki* Between two and five years, averaging three. Not knowing how old David's rat already was, or how much time passed between his Nothlit-age and the end of the war... if he survived meeting Rachel at one last time (which I have my personal arguments against ^^()) he was still prolly a senior citizen rat by the time any of the Animorphs became celebrities. (Assuming about equal time between each book, he'd have spent about a year and three quarters as an adult rat by the end of the war...) I don't honestly know what the chances would be of his parents finding him before a predator got him, or he died of old age.
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^ True enough. ^^() I suppose telling them the truth, or at least most of the truth, would be their best shot....
Although really, rats live for, what, six years at the most, in captivity? *checks wiki* Between two and five years, averaging three. Not knowing how old David's rat already was, or how much time passed between his Nothlit-age and the end of the war... if he survived meeting Rachel at one last time (which I have my personal arguments against ^^()) he was still prolly a senior citizen rat by the time any of the Animorphs became celebrities. (Assuming about equal time between each book, he'd have spent about a year and three quarters as an adult rat by the end of the war...) I don't honestly know what the chances would be of his parents finding him before a predator got him, or he died of old age.
Yeah, that occurred to me shortly after I'd posted. When you think about it, it's really a wonder he was still alive by book #48 . . .
Still. It would be great fanfic material.
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Help me please. Tobias says something to Marco (I think it was them, but I'm not sure.) And he says "when this war is over, and people ask us about our experiences, lets not mention this." Something along those lines. What was he referring to?
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I don't know. Maybe when he first morphed fly, and got trapped in a toilet bowl?
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Nuts, now I'm gonna have to reread the series again.
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I'm rereading it, I'll see if I can find it and tell you, Starsword.
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Help me please. Tobias says something to Marco (I think it was them, but I'm not sure.) And he says "when this war is over, and people ask us about our experiences, lets not mention this." Something along those lines. What was he referring to?
It was during the Hanson appearence in #35.
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Awesome, thanks! Its just one of those questions that I read and said "wow, thats kind of a neat statement of foreshadowing" so I made note and now I forgot.
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It's mentioned in the last book that Jake, Cassie, and Marco all write memoirs, but I doubt they told the public whole story; they couldn't if they weren't going to mention the Chee. What else do you think they left out? My guess: most stuff involving Ellimist and Crayak, time travel, David, and that part in #35 involving Hanson.
Side note on David: Assuming David's parents survived the war, do you think they ever tried to find out what happened to their son?
Doesn't anyone else here think that the Animorph books themselves ARE the memoirs they were talking about in #54? Just look at the first page in #1 -- Jake himself is acknowledging the fact that he's writing everything down. It kinda gives it a more realistic approach to the series. That's what I think.
Sure, there are inconsistencies with this theory, but I think it still works. Maybe the memoirs were published like this, in separate editions with everyone's opinions printed out in rotation, like in the real world (Jake, Rachel, Tobias/Ax, Cassie, Marco). If it really happened that way, then each of the Animorphs would've only had to write a book (or had it ghostwritten) every 5-6 months.
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So what happened in 35? Now I must know, but I don't feel like reading the book.
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So what happened in 35? Now I must know, but I don't feel like reading the book.
[spoiler] The Animorphs need to discredit a self-help guru, I think his name was William Roger Tennant, because he's a controller using his TV show to recruit people for The Sharing. In order to do so, they infiltrate a banquet where Tennant and Hanson are getting awards. The plan is to morph roaches and hide in Tennant's salad to induce a public freak out. Of course the plan goes wrong, and the Animorphs end up in the wrong salad. As the Animorphs retreat, Tobias says they should leave this part out if anyone ever asks them about the war. I know #35 isn't a favorite, but the banquet hall scenes were funny, and there were some good Ax moments in there too. [/spoiler]
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Ok, thanks. 35 is one of those books where my memory is foggy.
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finding him before a predator got him, or he died of old age.
You mean like what should've happened a long time ago, making the events in #48 completely impossible? LOL If Rats live for about 3 years, the war lasted 3 years, and David came into the picture almost a year into the war. That would mean that by the time 48 happened, he should be really old and like on his Rat death bed. and if age didnt kill him then im pretty sure a seagull or some bird of prey, that just happened to pass over the island he was on, would've. LOL so in truth, David shoulda been dead before he met up with Rachel again. As for telling his parents, I personally think it'd be insulting to not tell them the truth. He was their child and they have the right to know. However I would've lied because:
1. I hate being the bearer of bad news
2. They'd probably start blaming me and the other Animorphs for how he turned out(they woulda done that even if I told them he were dead though) which might escalate into them trying to go to court
3. Would you really have the heart to tell them parents that their son was an angry psychopath who you had to trap as a rat for the rest of his life and that he was probably digested by Tobias'(LOL @ funny fanfic) by now
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I say Marco kept it lighthearted and Cassie kept it to serious. I wonder if Cassie left out when she quit the Animorphs or when she let Tom take the morphing cube.
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i personally wonder how ANY of them could write memiors. i mean, obviously there are the big things to be left out, but how do you relive all the crap they went through, KNOWING hundreds of millions of people will read about it? if it were me, and i was trying to decide what NOT to reveal to the public, the book would be,
"My name is <insert name> i was an animorph. we won. The End"
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So what happened in 35? Now I must know, but I don't feel like reading the book.
[spoiler] The Animorphs need to discredit a self-help guru, I think his name was William Roger Tennant, because he's a controller using his TV show to recruit people for The Sharing. In order to do so, they infiltrate a banquet where Tennant and Hanson are getting awards. The plan is to morph roaches and hide in Tennant's salad to induce a public freak out. Of course the plan goes wrong, and the Animorphs end up in the wrong salad. As the Animorphs retreat, Tobias says they should leave this part out if anyone ever asks them about the war. I know #35 isn't a favorite, but the banquet hall scenes were funny, and there were some good Ax moments in there too. [/spoiler]
Thank you. Now I know and can stop wondering.
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i personally wonder how ANY of them could write memiors. i mean, obviously there are the big things to be left out, but how do you relive all the crap they went through, KNOWING hundreds of millions of people will read about it? if it were me, and i was trying to decide what NOT to reveal to the public, the book would be,
"My name is <insert name> i was an animorph. we won. The End"
And it would still sell millions of copies. Go figure.
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Doesn't anyone else here think that the Animorph books themselves ARE the memoirs they were talking about in #54? Just look at the first page in #1 -- Jake himself is acknowledging the fact that he's writing everything down. It kinda gives it a more realistic approach to the series. That's what I think.
Sure, there are inconsistencies with this theory, but I think it still works. Maybe the memoirs were published like this, in separate editions with everyone's opinions printed out in rotation, like in the real world (Jake, Rachel, Tobias/Ax, Cassie, Marco). If it really happened that way, then each of the Animorphs would've only had to write a book (or had it ghostwritten) every 5-6 months.
I don't think so. There ARE alot of inconsistencies, as you mentioned, such as how they would write about the two MM books (Back to Before and the one where they travel in time a lot and eventually kill Visser 2's parents) in which their memories of it cease to exist?
But the most important thing that prevents us from accepting the actual series as being the animorphs' memoirs is that Rachel and [whoever's point of view it was when Jake rammed the Blade Ship] couldn't have written about their own deaths.
That's why I think the whole "I'm writing this down etc etc..." from the first book is just a literary device for KA to tell the story. Similarly, the whole "we can't tell you where we live" thing is also simply a device, because it doesn't make sense. Say Visser 3 got a hold of what Jake was writing down (but didn't know it was Jake who wrote it, obviously.) The Animorphs live in the same city that the yeerk pool is in. Visser 3 was THERE for so many of the events that were written about when they occurred. He would know damn well where they lived. It was just a device to avoid being specific about where the story took place.
Not that I'm complaining, or anything. It was an enticing plot device, lol.
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But that begs me to question, if they were not memoirs at the time. What was up with the Whole "My name is . . . can't tell you my last name."
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That's exactly my point. It's nothing in-universe. It's just exposition.