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Title: Battle morphs
Post by: RogeSoja on February 15, 2009, 10:54:44 PM
I don't know if anyone has done this yet. Haha.

But i'd like to know what everyone's battle morph would be.

Personally, I'm sorta partial to a lion. Good eyesight, great reflexes, and that mane would protect all the major arteries in the neck.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 15, 2009, 11:10:19 PM
Yeah, it's been done. Lion would be a good choice, since their main function in life is fighting.  Salt water croc would be good because it's huge, armored, moves well on land and water, and is powerful from both ends. Rhino would be a good morph for a tank. Especially if you have a friend in bird morph to be your eyes.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 15, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
Definitely the Nile or Australian saltwater croc from a sheer practicality standpoint, African elephant for the lock & load trashing shiz, but personally Jake's Siberian tiger always felt sentimental to me, even if David's lion has the mane advantage.  Tigers are just like the definition of an awesome animal.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on February 15, 2009, 11:16:51 PM







<--

 ;D

If I don't have access to a time machine, though, I guess my battle morph would probably be a rhinoceros.  They can take a hit, and all they have to do to cause massive amounts of damage is basically just thrash around.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 15, 2009, 11:21:05 PM
Yeah. Elephants have size, but I think Rhinos have thicker hides. Plus horns beat forehead. You know? Sure there are tusks on the side, but that's not the same.

Gorilla is good too, of course. Not just because my main man Marco uses it. Strength, and the ability to grip things. He might have been able to do some kung fu stuff if he wanted to.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 15, 2009, 11:26:57 PM
Kung Fu?   :o   :D   ???  Dude, why use Kung Fu when you're strong enough to rip small trees out of the ground and turn people into a baseball?  Or rip their arms out of their sockets, Chewie-style?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 15, 2009, 11:29:38 PM
Because Rhinos can't do kung fu, that's why! ::)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: CDJV on February 15, 2009, 11:38:51 PM
I'd go with Lion, but my second choice would be an Elk, Moose, or similar. They'd blend in well with the habitat up here in Canada, plus they have alot of tossing and ramming power + agility. great for when you want to clear a path without killing people.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: goom on February 15, 2009, 11:40:11 PM
howler. :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aleron on February 15, 2009, 11:42:27 PM
I'd probably go with some type of big cat.  Or my dream battle-morph would be a metatron with a tail blade attachment (oh yeah!).
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 16, 2009, 09:07:26 AM
Hmm. I'd mix a Hork-Bajir and an Andalite together for ultimate speed and deadliness.

But if we're sticking to things that would actually be, you know, possible, I'd have to say nothing beats a big cat, a Siberian Tiger or a Panther, whichever's available at the local zoo . . . I don't think there are any zoos in Utah though.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: musicman88 on February 16, 2009, 10:52:57 AM
Rachel didn't do so bad with a Grizzly Bear so I'd try that.  Big and powerful with enough maneuverability to get the job done.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: SageKiller on February 16, 2009, 01:36:40 PM
I'd use a black panther...since it looks like a black cat and pretty much all big cats rock
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 16, 2009, 01:39:42 PM
Black panthers do have the stealth thing going for them. It moves quietly, like all cats, but also blends in with the shadows better than a lion or tiger.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Kitulean on February 16, 2009, 01:41:09 PM

But if we're sticking to things that would actually be, you know, possible, I'd have to say nothing beats a big cat, a Siberian Tiger or a Panther, whichever's available at the local zoo . . . I don't think there are any zoos in Utah though.

I used to live in Utah, so what about the Hogle Zoo in Salt Lake city?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: SageKiller on February 16, 2009, 02:10:08 PM
Black panthers do have the stealth thing going for them. It moves quietly, like all cats, but also blends in with the shadows better than a lion or tiger.
oooh yay actual good reasoning for my choice!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 16, 2009, 02:17:25 PM
Yes, black panther is a solid choice for a feline battle morph. What it loses in power, it makes up for in stealth.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 16, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
I used to live in Utah, so what about the Hogle Zoo in Salt Lake city?

Ah, so they do exist in Utah. Never been to Salt Lake though . . . well if I ever get the morphing power or just end up end Salt Lake for whatever reason I'll know where to go, thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 16, 2009, 03:24:29 PM
I wonder where the best place in Alabama would be to get a good variety of battle morphs. Or maybe one of the surrounding states.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Wyndam on February 16, 2009, 08:49:56 PM
For me, Lion easily. Not only is it my favorite animal, but it is just about the perfect battle morph.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 16, 2009, 09:32:49 PM
howler. :P

Omgz cheaterz.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on February 16, 2009, 09:58:14 PM
howler. :P

Omgz cheaterz.

lol! Yeah Howler, Metatron (with tail blade attachment as Aleron said) and other fictional creatures (Phoenix, Dragons) aside, I'd probably go for Cheetah. I'm not a fan of the spots but amazing unbeatable burst speed gets you anywhere with the reaction speed to cope with most dangers. I think my lazy attitude would suit it too!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Xan on February 16, 2009, 10:06:10 PM
I would pick either a Hydralisk or a Strogg heavy tank. Both have heavy armor mobility, good ranged attacks. Tank sacrifices melee attack for ranged but the Hydralisk has two giant ice picks for arms, seriously how cool is that?

But for real life I'd prolly pick a Nile crocodile or a Black Mamba snake.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 16, 2009, 10:09:02 PM
Psh, Starcraft.  Lolz I'm-a aquirez a Protoss carrier!!1!waffles.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Starsword on February 16, 2009, 10:59:50 PM
I always liked black panther, but me repeating that would be useless. So that was just useless. But anyway, Bull. Them things can kick.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 16, 2009, 11:47:56 PM
Still think a crocodile would be more or less unstoppable against any mammal predator I can think of.  Pretty much the only animals known to F with kingsize crocodiles are giant snakes.

Like, even a 9 foot grizzly or fullgrown lion wouldn't really be able to do much to get through a crocodile's plating, and if caught in a deathroll...

Grizzly caught around the legs with those jaws, crocodile starts rolling...

Eep.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Wyndam on February 16, 2009, 11:50:43 PM
Still think a crocodile would be more or less unstoppable against any mammal predator I can think of.  Pretty much the only animals known to F with kingsize crocodiles are giant snakes.

Like, even a 9 foot grizzly or fullgrown lion wouldn't really be able to do much to get through a crocodile's plating, and if caught in a deathroll...

Grizzly caught around the legs with those jaws, crocodile starts rolling...

Eep.

That's definitely true. It is a shame we didn't see more crocodile morphing in the series. Darn Rachel and her allergies! :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 17, 2009, 12:09:42 AM
I always thought it would have been a cool alternate fighting form for Ax.  Not sure why.  Although he seemed to be disgusted by the idea of fighting with a mouth, so whateverz.

Cassie's wolf kind of bothered me sometimes.  It just seemed a little strange they'd risk letting her fight in such a lower-powered form, y'know?  Like when there's a skirmish with some controller cops, or even security guards or whatever, I was always thinking like "one bullet...one bullet..."

It just seemed odd.  Sure, a wolf is dangerous enough if you're confronting an unarmed human.  But even a couple of mallcops or whatever with low caliber pistols could dispose of one pretty easily.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Keann on February 17, 2009, 07:00:42 AM
White Siberian Tiger. I always really dug the blue eyes. They are also apparently the same as other tigers, its just a random gene effect that gives them their colouration, except that..

Quote
Compared to orange tigers without the white gene, white tigers tend to be larger both at birth and at full adult size. This may have given them an advantage in the wild despite their unusual coloration. Heterozygous orange tigers also tend to be larger than other orange tigers. Kailash Sankhala, the director of the New Delhi Zoo in the 1960s, said "One of the functions of the white gene may have been to keep a size gene in the population, in case it's ever needed."

Holy **** look what I just found:

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Bears are among the prey species of the Siberian tiger. Asiatic black bears and brown bears constitute 5-8% of the Siberian tiger's diet. In particular, the brown bear's input is estimated to be 1-1.5%. Certain tigers have been reported to imitate the calls of Asiatic black bears to attract them. Siberian tigers have been recorded to prey on brown bears more frequently than black bears, due to the latter's ability to escape danger by rapidly climbing trees.

Not grizzlies, but damn...


Hard to pick between rhinos, grizzles, wolves, and gorillas though. KA really knew what she was doing when she was picking morphs.



Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 17, 2009, 09:01:44 AM
Most albino predators, including tigers, don't survive to maturity in the wild anyway.

But yeah, Siberian tigers are pretty hardcore.  They're supposedly more aggressive etc than other types, Bengals and Indochinese and all, too.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 17, 2009, 09:12:45 AM
Most albino anythings don't live long in the wild  >:D
Wouldn't an albino tiger be entirely white as in no stripes, and have red eyes? I always thought those were the traits of albinos and that white tigers were some semi-breed, not simply albino. I never really researched tigers though.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 17, 2009, 09:22:52 AM
Psh, I'm no scientist dork.   :D   :P  I don't know.  Honkey tigers a better term?

Either way, I don't think being slightly larger in length or weight is going to help an albino tiger much more over any other tiger.  Probably not a huge deal.  Maybe the regular tigers are less self-conscious and have more confidence since they fit in?   :P  Bwahaha.  "Yo, outcast tiger! ROAR!"

I'm lame.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 17, 2009, 09:37:30 AM
Honkey tigers a better term?

Probably not, but I like it  ;D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Keann on February 17, 2009, 11:28:20 AM
Mmm white tigers are different from albino tigers, I think it is vital to point out. You're right, albino tigers would be all white with red eyes, but the gene that makes white tigers white merely deals with the orange part, leaving the stripes. White tigers are also not a different species or a sub-species anymore than blue eyed Caucasian people are different from brown eyed Caucasian people. Its a recessive gene, and white tigers don't give birth to exclusively white tigers or anything like that, they give birth to orange tigers as well. It merely is a rare gene trait, one that both Bengal, Siberian and possibly the other members of the tiger family have as well.


Plus, this information is all on Wikipedia, I found and absorbed in like five minutes. Gotta love Wiki.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Starsword on February 18, 2009, 01:20:01 AM
I think the whole "The only thing to take on a croc is occasionally a giant snake" is pretty redic Don't giant snakes strangle their prey? How the heck would a snake take that on?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 18, 2009, 05:04:39 AM
I'm not entirely sure, but there are pictures around of boas and anacondas or whatever constricting alligators/giant crocs to death.  I can't remember what continent, I guess if it's crocodiles it would have to be Africa or Australia.  It may have been a large alligator though, in South America or whatever.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 18, 2009, 09:38:54 AM
I dunno, the croc is old its done quite a lot right to survive this long. However if we're talking going against Hork-Bajir blades I don't think the croc is as indestructable as you'd think, nothing really would be.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 18, 2009, 04:37:11 PM
Well, no, but two Hork-Bajir should have easily been able to take out a tiger or grizzly or gorilla two, so the books weren't exactly realistic in that department.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Champion on February 18, 2009, 05:32:46 PM
Well, a grizzly stands at 8 feet, and hork-bajir only at seven. Thats Yao Ming next to an average 6 foot guy do i need to out line who'd win? Hork-Bajir are fast, not built and hulky like a bear.

As for the gorilla, i dont think so either.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: agentAK on February 18, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
...For the longest time, I wanted a cougar. Not 100% sure if I still do.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 19, 2009, 12:00:46 AM
Hork-Bajir are described as being insanely athletic and agile, not to mention arboreal.  Plus they have about 13 blades all over their bodies, each significantly larger than a grizzly's railspike claws from the description.

I'd say there's a pretty reasonable chance two could take down a grizzly, especially with the grizzly's poor eyesight and comparative clumsiness.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Xan on February 19, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
Psh, Starcraft.  Lolz I'm-a aquirez a Protoss carrier!!1!waffles.

Carrier is a mechanical unit. You can't acquire it :D
Now a Dark Templar on the other hand.......
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 19, 2009, 12:13:20 AM
SHADDAPAYOUFACE!  I know that!   :P   :D

My serious level was, oh, you know, zero.  Silly person.  I am Zim!

Psst.  Dark Templar are traitorous and lame.  FOR AIUR, EXECUTORRR!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Xan on February 19, 2009, 02:24:18 AM
Chimi have you ever realized there is a striking similarity between the original Zerg (pre-Xel Naga) and the Yeerks?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 19, 2009, 03:33:36 AM
It's a pretty common alien concept, dude.  The bug/slug xeno-parasite thingamajig.  It's been done since the '50s, K.A. just created a cool little universe for them to exist in.

The Zerg are basically just big muthafugly ****roaches for the Protoss to blast and then dance in a religious ritual while telepathically singing.  Or something.  "Power overwheeelming!"

Me, I'm a Terran kinda guy too.  Zergz are just target practice.   >:D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 19, 2009, 10:52:28 AM
I hate to be contrary but you just can't beat the Queen of Blades, there's nothing more satisfying than hotkeying your hives and important buildings then covering your entire base with Overlords so your enemey can't see what you're doing. Build up your base and your force, any attack by another player will target the Overlords first, and they're expendable . . . then, when you're ready, there's nothing scarier than moving the whole Overlord-Horde slowly, menacingly towards your enemy base, your entire land army hidden beneath them. What does your opponent see? A zergling here, a hydralisk there? No way to know for sure what's coming.
Of course agaisnt the AI this strategy is a pointless waste of resources, and though it can work in a rush game it's really best saved for "no rush" but when it does happen it's pwnsome! ;D

The closest the Protoss come is an invisible carrier swarm, and the best the Terrans can pull off is a mid-base siege tank drop. Both are effective but neither as totally jaw droppingly awesome as seeing the full force of the swarm creeping meaninfully towards your base.

Unless you play Brood War, then the Protoss just downright own because they can do all 3, but meh, none of my friends have Brood War so I never use it.




. . .



Oh wait, we're talking about Animorphs and battle morphs! Um . . . um . . . I would totally morph an infested Terran. I'd be a blast at parties!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: wildweathel on February 19, 2009, 12:28:39 PM
 :offtopic:

I thought we were supposed to be saying "my animal could kick your animal's butt!"

Hmm.  Tough choice for me.  I like maneuverability and stealth more than anything else.

Puma would be cool.  Panther, yep.  But if you want sheer size-to-butt-kicking ratio: Mellivora capensis, the killer honey badger.

Quote from: Wikipedia
A popular internet video shows a honey badger bitten by a puff adder, one of the honey badger's preferred venomous snakes. The badger becomes paralyzed for about 5 minutes. Once its paralysis has subsided, the honey badger continues with its meal and resumes its journey. Even more tenaciously, the honey badger steals the snake's kill, and eats it for itself before continuing to hunt the snake. This ferocious nature of the badger has earned it its image as a formidable opponent.

Sweet.

I have very severe case of "ooh, I must acquire that" for Bubo virginianus and/or Tyto alba.  Large, silent, nocturnal.  Not really a fighter, but still very, very cool.

But, with all that considered, I'd pick Panthera onca
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Arbron on February 19, 2009, 08:28:37 PM
andalite of course. they're deadly, fast, smart, have 4 eyes... what else could we expect?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 19, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
...Subtlety?   :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: rossabo on February 21, 2009, 12:32:21 AM
I'm surprised not many people have chosen Hork Bajir! That would be my first choice. I'm sure that martial arts could be effectively applied towards them. They are fast, intimidating, and very similar to humans. Plus, they could attack from within a Yeerk regiment of Hork Bajir, creating more chaos and confusion.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 21, 2009, 02:15:39 AM
And I'm surprised no one's said this: An Antarean Bogg.

Hey, Tiger sure, Anda-Bajir definately, but diffrent morphs would be needed for different situations so I think everyone should have an "Antarean Bogg morph for . . . taking a bite out of yourenemies."
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 21, 2009, 02:36:04 AM
Uh huh.  How do you propose they get one of those?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 21, 2009, 02:37:43 AM
They touch it and acquire it, duh  ::)

Seriously though? Genetic engineering, stop bothering with the mammoth, the mammoth ain't worth the trouble, revive the Bogg!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 21, 2009, 03:23:05 AM
You're a Bogg. 

:(
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 21, 2009, 04:31:03 AM
You're a Bogg. 

:(
Thank you, yes. That's the point, we're saying what we want to morph, I want an Anteran Bogg  >:D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Horsefan1023 (Seal) on February 21, 2009, 09:50:18 AM
I would steal either Cassie's or Jake's.  I love wolves, and I think their awesome, but I think a tiger could do more damage.  So, probably tiger for me.  And if it can't be an Animorphs, probably a lion.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on February 21, 2009, 07:10:13 PM
A lynx. I have seen one in wild once and I will never forget that. Or find words to describe it...
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 21, 2009, 07:29:05 PM
A lynx?  Good luck taking a bullet/dracon beam/Horky blade with that.

It's a glorified housecat!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Galladerotom on February 21, 2009, 07:37:24 PM
A liger.

Yes it is a real hybrid that has been made not some crap made up on Nepolean Dynamite.
Plus it is pretty large because it has a genetic sideaffect of largness. Don't ask me how it is supposed to work.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 21, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
Liger's are bigger, sure.  Not sure there'd be any real advantage over a tiger or lion themselves, though.  Probably not enough size difference to matter much.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Galladerotom on February 21, 2009, 09:39:35 PM
Bigger still same agility has more power on impact.
DUH.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 21, 2009, 11:51:05 PM
Meh.  Those types of up-close fights are somewhat reliant on luck anyway.  If a tiger or lion bit a liger's neck, it's still gonna die.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Hunter on February 21, 2009, 11:58:30 PM
hmm... i'd have to say either a Tigon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon) or a Liger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 22, 2009, 12:12:37 AM
Someone beat ya to it, Chachi.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Hunter on February 22, 2009, 12:21:16 AM
meh... i didn't read all the posts anyways
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on February 22, 2009, 01:10:17 PM
I wonder how well a wolverine would do. They are notoriously aggressive, but I don't know much else.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: esplin on February 22, 2009, 01:16:45 PM
I would have the Kodiak Bear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_bear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_bear)

Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on February 22, 2009, 07:03:02 PM
I wonder how well a wolverine would do. They are notoriously aggressive, but I don't know much else.

Wolverines are very good at fighting, I'm not sure if they would beat a wolf or a bear or a lynx but I've heard they can hurt all of them.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 22, 2009, 07:56:43 PM
I'm surprised Marco never went for a wolverine morph, I can see him morphing a wolverine then making all kinds of X-Men jokes  :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: wildweathel on February 23, 2009, 11:18:29 AM
I don't know much about wolverines except that they're similar to ratels. 

Story here, courtesy of Lawdog (http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com): Hey!  Get out of there! (part: 1 (http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006/06/hey-get-out-of-there.html) 2 (http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006/06/hey-part-2.html) 3 (http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006/07/get-out-of-there-part-iii.html) 4 (http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006/07/okay-where-were-we.html) end (http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2006/07/ratel-end.html))
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on February 23, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Well The native people of Sweden use have tame reindeer, and according to them the wolverine are as bad as wolves. Except they only hunt at the winter and go for berries, eggs and such thinks at summer.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 23, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
Wolverines have been known to make wolves and even some small bears pee themselves and run away whimpering.

Trufax.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 24, 2009, 09:22:04 AM
They're fairly low to the ground too which would make for some effective evasive action against seven foot tall Hork-Bajir, and never doubt the effectiveness of ankle biting. ;D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 24, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
But, on da flip side (yo), one Horkie slash and the Wolverine's meat.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: NorthAmericanScum on February 24, 2009, 07:20:45 PM
I think of all the ones people have mentioned liger would be the best idea. Those things are like feline tanks.
Crocodiles could be alright, but I think there might be a bit of a mobility problem.
Maybe a hyena could be a good idea, if you needed to fight in an enclosed space, but pretty much mediocre otherwise.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: EmberGryphon on February 24, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
Spotted hyena, definitely.

Striped hyenas have been known to beat the bejeebus out of wolves, and spotteds are bigger and tougher.
Plus, I find them adorable. ^^
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 24, 2009, 07:32:36 PM
I think of all the ones people have mentioned liger would be the best idea. Those things are like feline tanks.

Not any more so than a regular tiger or lion.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: EmberGryphon on February 24, 2009, 07:38:24 PM
^Ligers are a good bit larger than either tigers of lions, on account of tiger DNA resulting in uninhibited growth genes. Tigons are the opposite, and tend to be smaller than lions.

Both hybrids tend to have horrible genetic health problems, though. >=
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 24, 2009, 07:43:00 PM
*Sigh*  Larger doesn't mean better fighters.  A tiger is still big enough to kill a liger with a neck-bite or a disembowelment or whatever.  Half of those types of fights tend to be luck, balance, reflex.  Yes, they're bigger, but not by enough to really amount to much.

It's like a 6'3 tall guy fighting a 6'1 tall guy.  The taller one maybe weighing a little more.  Doesn't necessarily mean he's going to win the fight.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: EmberGryphon on February 24, 2009, 08:02:58 PM
But the poster in question was just referring to ligers as the feline version of tanks. One's tank-itude is, indeed, determined primarily by one's mass. ^^()

And we're also not really talking inches. High end of the average male Siberian tiger's weight is about 500 pounds. Average weight of a female liger, according to Wiki, is 700 pounds. The largest one I saw mentioned on that article was almost 800.
That's a big difference. Check out Google images for them, too; they are not little kitties.
http://www.fahad.com/pics/liger.jpg (http://www.fahad.com/pics/liger.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on February 24, 2009, 08:24:08 PM
Yeah, I've seen pictures.  There's no doubt that liger's are huge.  That's not my point, though.  Size really isn't a determination of fighting prowess.  I'm sure if you somehow set up a sample number of fights, the liger would win a great deal.  But the tiger or lion would most definitely win a few too.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 24, 2009, 11:04:29 PM
Well in some cases size matters. You put a cheetah and a tiger against each other and everyone knows who to bet on, cheetahs aren't built to battle really (which sucks because it means the lions can steal all their kills) a leopard and a lion the leopard pretty much has to run for its life precious and climb a tree. However in the case of lions, tigers, and ligers, yeah, the size difference really, really isn't enough to decide anything.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: wildweathel on February 25, 2009, 08:53:18 AM
Damn.  That's a big kitteh.  But you should remember that it's not the size of dog in the fight as much as the size of fight in the dog.

Or as Marco Kloos puts it... (http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/monday-search-term-safari-xxxix-2/) (content advisory: profanity)

Quote

how do fisher cats defend itself

Fisher cats are black belts in the art of Mustelid-Fu, also called “weasel karate”.  It involves just going absolutely bat**** insane on someone.  (Ever seen a weasel fight?  It’s like watching a razor-studded Slinky in the spin cycle of a washing machine.)

protecting your dog from fisher cats

Try one of these:

(http://munchkinwrangler.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/body-armor-dog-1-thumb.jpg?w=244&h=174)

However, I think I've finally come to the conclusion that the ultimate battle morph on Earth is the US Marine, with other Marines, rifles, and air support.  I know, that's cheating a bit.  But honestly, what can a polar bear, liger, or whatever--even very smart ones--do against that?

(However, gorilla-morphed marines are arguably even better.)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on February 25, 2009, 11:11:06 AM
They're fairly low to the ground too which would make for some effective evasive action against seven foot tall Hork-Bajir, and never doubt the effectiveness of ankle biting. ;D

What about a wasp? They can only hurt creatures which are bigger then themselves. And if we say all the Hork-Bajirs are allergic they will die in a few seconds. And I don't think it's quite easy trying to kill one whit a knife so it will just sting him again. It's the perfect battle morph. Both effective and beautiful...
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 25, 2009, 11:34:50 AM
And if a pod of orcas just magically follow the kids when they use that morph, imagine a swarm of wasps deciding to tag along for an attack on the Hork-Bajir.  ;D

Visser 3: <There are so many of them! Can they all be Andalite bandits? This is madness, I'm leaving this planet!>
Jake: Haha, we did it, Marco!
Wasp 5087: Bzzz?
Jake: Marco? Is that you?
Wasp 3192: Bzzz?
Jake: Marco! Cassie, Rachel . . . anybody!!!
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Starsword on February 25, 2009, 09:50:42 PM
What if in morph the animorphs just pooped in the yeerk pool?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on February 26, 2009, 07:41:59 PM
What if in morph the animorphs just pooped in the yeerk pool?

I think it depends on how big the animals brain and ears are...
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Stasiea on February 27, 2009, 04:36:14 AM
What about a wasp? It's the perfect battle morph. Both effective and beautiful...

I don't think I got this right. Mira, are you trying to tell me you like wasps?

My chose is a lion, a panther or a tiger anyway. Or some big cat
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Champion on February 27, 2009, 10:26:15 AM
If you really think about it, the morph should depend on the battlefield. If your in a lion morph, and your in a corridor vsing a Hork-Bajir, you can win but its gonna close. Now if your a gorilla, you have a much better chance of winning.
Id choose the andiconda and the Cape Buffalo
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on February 28, 2009, 12:07:34 AM
That's a valid point, but the Animorphs favored certain morphs and I think people are just talking about what they'd favor themselves.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: zahra on March 02, 2009, 12:58:02 AM
i'd say andalite or hork-bajir
but if we're talking bout local species.. i'll go with Lion. (it's a disturbing confession since i hate David)
and for underwater battle, definitely Great White Shark.
for air battle, Bald Eagle.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on March 02, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
Even though I don't like David, the golden eagle is basically king of the skies. As much as Tobias might hate it, that would be my bird of prey morph.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aleron on March 02, 2009, 01:24:56 PM
I always felt cheap because other than the Garatron (which wouldn't necessarily need a blade attachment, a pocketknife or razor blade would do), my morphs usually mirrored Jakes.

Battle: White Siberian Tiger.  (Regular ones are cool, but I kile how the white's look.)
Air: Peregrine Falcon (agile little thing)
Sea: ?

Although I always thought the condor or some kind of vulture would be cool, too.  They're common, and the connotation of using something ugly and reviled for something cool and meaningful always seemed like a neat idea.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on March 04, 2009, 05:55:17 AM
Only cos no one has said it and also because it's probably not possible Crayak/Ellimist! MWHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAA! If they're not possible then the creature that pretty much gave the Ellimist his boost sure it's the size of a moon but hey it'd definitely kick ass in virtually any planetary battle.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ChimichangaChupacabra on March 04, 2009, 06:08:52 AM
I doubt they even operate on a strictly DNA level anymore.  To them morphing's just like a primitive retarded children' game, like a little kid bashing two rocks together.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on March 07, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
What about a wasp? It's the perfect battle morph. Both effective and beautiful...

I don't think I got this right. Mira, are you trying to tell me you like wasps?

My chose is a lion, a panther or a tiger anyway. Or some big cat

I like wasps. Even if I'm the only girl in universe.

Anyway, do you think you can acquire Crayak?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on March 07, 2009, 11:04:40 PM
Just flirt with him,  giggle at his jokes, then when the moment is right lean in close, put your hand on his, acquire him, then give the signal for your friend to fake a phone call that means you have to leave right away, but you'll call him back . . . even if you haven't got his number  :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Mira on March 11, 2009, 07:08:13 AM
... Ok, next question. Who wants to be the voluntary?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on March 11, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
You mean volunteer? Who wants to volunteer? How do you seduce a being that can create anything he wants? Or destroy, as the case may be?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on March 11, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
How do you seduce a being that can create anything he wants? Or destroy, as the case may be?
With dark green lipstick. It's exotic.
Sure he can make what he wants but maybe he doesnt always know what he wants. ;)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Xan on March 16, 2009, 01:02:20 AM
My new Battle Morph would be Rick Astely with a boombox. Rick Roll the Yeerks until they all commit suicide.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 16, 2009, 05:56:09 PM
Lol?

For each niche, I'd have a different morph (this is assuming I'm alone, in the book everyone covers something)

Battle in Enclosed/Small spaces - Lion
Battle in Jungle/Outdoor/Large Spaces - Siberian Tiger
Entry/Building Destruction - White Rhinoceros
Fast/Small Retreating Fight - Cheetah
Assassination - Taipan Snake
Long Distance/Hunting - Gray Wolf
Fighting When You Can't Lose to a Doornob/Use Weapons and Vehicles - Western Silverback Gorilla
General Bird of Prey - Golden Eagle
Fast Getaway Bird - Peregrine Falcon
Flight at Night - Great Horned Owl
Long Distance - Canada Goose
Unnoticed Flight - Dove or Seagull
Indoor/Dark Flight - Ghost Bat
Urban Camo - Tabby Cat
Freshwater - Largemouth Bass
Saltwater - Dolphin
Ocean Combat - Great White Shark, Orca
Deep Sea - Sperm Whale, Giant Squid
Insects - ****roach, Flea, Yellow Jacket, Dragonfly, Common Fly
Because I want them: Polar Bear, Grizzly Bear, Crocodile, Humpback Whale, Jaguar, African Elephant

Aliens I'd Want - Garatron (Speed), Hork-Bajir (Blades, Climbing, Intimidation), Andalite (Tailblade/Great Runner), Leeran (Telepathy). Any of Visser Three's battle morphs would be nice as well.


If I had to pick one overall morph for fighting, it would be the Tiger.
If I had to have one morph and nothing else, it would be the Golden Eagle. (I've always wanted to fly, and I'd rather not get killed doing it [Can't hunt eagles, they have no natural predators, and they, while big, don't attract attention like Bald Eagles])

Sorry if this list is obnoxiously long, I just wanted to cover everything  ;D
If anyone thinks I missed a niche or have unnecessary things, just say something. I wanted a morph so I could do anything, anywhere should I need to.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Starsword on March 16, 2009, 10:13:01 PM
Def would not take lion for an enclosed fight. Prob hyena.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: QIfry on March 16, 2009, 10:16:29 PM
Well as much as I love cheetahs, they probably wouldn't be good close-up combat against aliens like Hork-Bajir or Taxxons. Going against humans, maybe but that's about it.

So my second choice would have to be the jaguar. If I had the option of it being black, yes.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on March 17, 2009, 08:52:22 PM
Lol?

For each niche, I'd have a different morph (this is assuming I'm alone, in the book everyone covers something)

Battle in Enclosed/Small spaces - Lion
Battle in Jungle/Outdoor/Large Spaces - Siberian Tiger
Entry/Building Destruction - White Rhinoceros
Fast/Small Retreating Fight - Cheetah
Assassination - Taipan Snake
Long Distance/Hunting - Gray Wolf
Fighting When You Can't Lose to a Doornob/Use Weapons and Vehicles - Western Silverback Gorilla
General Bird of Prey - Golden Eagle
Fast Getaway Bird - Peregrine Falcon
Flight at Night - Great Horned Owl
Long Distance - Canada Goose
Unnoticed Flight - Dove or Seagull
Indoor/Dark Flight - Ghost Bat
Urban Camo - Tabby Cat
Freshwater - Largemouth Bass
Saltwater - Dolphin
Ocean Combat - Great White Shark, Orca
Deep Sea - Sperm Whale, Giant Squid
Insects - ****roach, Flea, Yellow Jacket, Dragonfly, Common Fly
Because I want them: Polar Bear, Grizzly Bear, Crocodile, Humpback Whale, Jaguar, African Elephant

Aliens I'd Want - Garatron (Speed), Hork-Bajir (Blades, Climbing, Intimidation), Andalite (Tailblade/Great Runner), Leeran (Telepathy). Any of Visser Three's battle morphs would be nice as well.


If I had to pick one overall morph for fighting, it would be the Tiger.
If I had to have one morph and nothing else, it would be the Golden Eagle. (I've always wanted to fly, and I'd rather not get killed doing it [Can't hunt eagles, they have no natural predators, and they, while big, don't attract attention like Bald Eagles])

Sorry if this list is obnoxiously long, I just wanted to cover everything  ;D
If anyone thinks I missed a niche or have unnecessary things, just say something. I wanted a morph so I could do anything, anywhere should I need to.

Uh oh this has turned into one of those 25 things about me things and I'm starting it! As with the original post (fighting solo) also must non-Godlike, actually in Animorph books and currently known to be alive (to avoid someone going T-Rex or Raptor {see http://xkcd.com/155/ (http://xkcd.com/155/)})

Fights
Enclosed/Small spaces - Howler
Jungle - Cheetah
Clearing/open space - Andalite
Entry/Building Destruction - White Rhinoceros
General area destruction - Elephant
Fast/Small Retreating Fight - Peregrine Falcon
Assassination - Brazilian Wandering Spider
Endurance Hunting - Gray Wolf
When you need to handle machinery- Howler
Fight at Night - Howler

Travel:
Long Distance - Tern
Discrete outdoors - Pigeon or Seagull
Indoor/Dark Flight - Ghost Bat
Fitting in urban area - Mix locals morph (like Ax)

Aquatic/Marine:
Freshwater exploration - Electric Eel
Freshwater combat- Alligator
Saltwater exploration - Dolphin
Saltwater combat - Great White Shark
Deep Sea - Sperm Whale, Giant Squid

Just for fun or in case: Hummingbird, Gentoo Penguin, Polar bear, White-throated Needletail, Monkey, Golden Eagle, Sailfish, Blue Whale, Leeran, Pemalite

If only 1
Earth animals: Peregrine Falcon
Extraterrestrial: Howler
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 17, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
I didn't pick Howlers on purpose. They are awesome, but the memory/combined thought could be a problem. It could also give Crayak control. Assuming you were alone with your own mind and memories and crayak could do nothing do you, then definetely that.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 18, 2009, 12:15:37 PM
 i would go with a bear as my battle morph. i mean can u name one animal that could beat it in close combat....
yer think about it.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Chad32 on March 18, 2009, 12:36:13 PM
A saltwater crocodile could, according to book 12.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Alic on March 18, 2009, 12:50:28 PM
I would just stay Andalite.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 18, 2009, 12:57:30 PM
damn you and your bloody back-chat..

Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: esplin on March 18, 2009, 09:49:48 PM
I would say howler too, just to be super over powerful.

We all know its the most powerful killing machine in animorphs, we just pick other battle morphs cause its almost unfair. :\
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Terenia on March 18, 2009, 10:17:28 PM
Also because unless they ALL went Howler, they'd be incapacitating their own troops with the howl.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: esplin on March 18, 2009, 10:19:25 PM
But the Howlers are immune to their own howls.  If someone wasn't one though....
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Terenia on March 18, 2009, 10:20:24 PM
Exactly. And often times it was the most advantageous for the Animorphs to be in different morphs than all the same morph. Different morphs, different skills, different advantages.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 02:32:35 AM
yes because in somecases a sloth is more valueable than a howler in battle ;D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Terenia on March 19, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
yes because in somecases a sloth is more valueable than a howler in battle ;D

Exactly! If you want to bore the Yeerks to death you won't have much luck as a Howler. A Sloth though....
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ~ on March 19, 2009, 10:23:21 AM
I have this idea of useing meerkats with lasers on their heads, but that's more of a crazy scientist thing then a battle morph thing. :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 11:09:03 AM
i think your underestimating the sloth
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 19, 2009, 04:14:37 PM
Lol? Either way, assuming a howler was not controlled by Crayak and shared thoughts could be controlled, it would cover all "advantages" held by other animals. Speed, endurance, and senses greater than a wolf. Reflexes and Killing ability greater than a tiger. Durability greater than an elephant. Dexterity greater than a Gorilla. Force greater than a bear. It has natural slashing claws. It has eyes better than an eagle. For combat, the only other things you would need would be water and flight.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 04:18:58 PM
but sloths have a cute factor
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 19, 2009, 04:41:34 PM
Sloths run at less than two miles per hour. Besides, puppies are way cuter.

C'mon, look at this thing  ;D
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2exv4ue.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 04:54:44 PM
(http://www.maniacworld.com/Alfa-Romeo-Sloth.jpg)

go on say that isent cute. i dare you ;D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 19, 2009, 05:02:41 PM
It pales in comparison to the puppy, however  ;D
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 05:04:44 PM
but look at its little face... ;D

its cuuuute
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 19, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Puppy still wins. Let's put a poll in the bored board.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 05:07:14 PM
yes lets
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 19, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
It's up
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 05:16:46 PM
let the battle commence

BTW think i see the start of a beautiful rivalry
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 19, 2009, 05:18:07 PM
Lol? Rivalry? It's a forum board. We're all friends here.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 19, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
friendly Rivalry...

like a sloth and a puppy :woot2:
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: leeranspy on March 20, 2009, 12:45:38 AM
HIV or some other incurable disease.

Of course, I'd have to first decide whether viruses are actual organisms (and we don't know if morphing works with RNA only when we deal with RNA viruses or retroviruses).
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Alic on March 20, 2009, 05:13:48 AM
I thought being my Andalite self would be fine..
But my uh.. sister..
K for real.
She could win anything with annoyance.
"K THIS GUY IM DATING IS INDIAN SANG TO ME IN HINDU AND BLAH DEE BLAH SHMIRK"
WTF.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 20, 2009, 03:29:34 PM
hundi munsh lada lolo wooow hundi munshie lama wooow
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 20, 2009, 05:18:43 PM
Lol Brad?

And Leeran, Viruses are not considered life because they cannot reproduce on their own. I don't mean like bugs or parasites that need a "host" to lay eggs in, they still can make eggs. A virus has no means for any of that. They inject DNA into a healthy cell. Cell gets reprogramed, and makes more viruses. Two things though - I'd NEVER morph that small. A lone white blood cell might get lucky, also, there is no mind at all, nothing, not instinct at all. You'd have no conciousness, and be a soulless nothlit virus.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 20, 2009, 05:21:33 PM
also a virus would be a rubbish battle morph. it has no mass
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 20, 2009, 06:16:29 PM
That's where you're wrong Brad, mass isn't everything.

If you could infect someone with an incurable disease, they would die. Simple as that. All it TECHNICALLY takes is one cell to start the cycle.

I'd never do it based on the fact you'd have no consciousness, and the microbe world is an extreme vicious place.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 20, 2009, 06:20:55 PM
also you wouldent know where you where on the battle field. but it could be good for asasination
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 20, 2009, 06:26:35 PM
I'd still pick a taipan, where a random white blood cell or lucky antibody isn't the end of you. And you'd be conscious. And they'll still die in less than 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 20, 2009, 06:28:12 PM
... ok then mabey not
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Xan on March 21, 2009, 12:56:10 AM
For optimum Yeerk ownage:

Use a set of T-51b Power Armor (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/T-51b), which will stop Dracon Beam attacks.
Add in some headshots with A3-21's Plasma Rifle (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/A3-21%27s_Plasma_Rifle), with scope.
Or maybe lob 8 min-nukes & blow up the whole Yeerk pool with the  Experimental MIRV Launcher (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Experimental_MIRV),
Or if else fails just morph a  Super Mutant. (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Super_mutant)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 21, 2009, 04:08:43 AM
..... ok that could work too :-X
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on March 21, 2009, 07:29:19 AM
For optimum Yeerk ownage:

Use a set of T-51b Power Armor (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/T-51b), which will stop Dracon Beam attacks.
Add in some headshots with A3-21's Plasma Rifle (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/A3-21%27s_Plasma_Rifle), with scope.
Or maybe lob 8 min-nukes & blow up the whole Yeerk pool with the  Experimental MIRV Launcher (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Experimental_MIRV),
Or if else fails just morph a  Super Mutant. (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Super_mutant)

lol. Technology does have a way of owning biology.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 21, 2009, 01:06:25 PM
The problem is, how would you go about aquiring those things? And besides, it's been said max power dracons/shredders and blow through feet of solid steel.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 21, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
so can a rhino... and a sloth
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 21, 2009, 01:16:13 PM
Find me a rhino... or a sloth... that can blow through feet of solid steel, and I will agree with you and retract my previous statement.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 21, 2009, 01:17:59 PM
errr look over there *points*
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on March 26, 2009, 08:48:19 AM
The problem is, how would you go about aquiring those things? And besides, it's been said max power dracons/shredders and blow through feet of solid steel.
so can a rhino... and a sloth

I'm going to presume I misunderstood what you wrote because there's no way a normal, unenhanced, unarmed rhino (never mind a sloth) could blow through several feet of solid (undamaged/altered) steel. Or in the worse case do it as efficiently as say a dracon/shredder weapon.

Tech:1
Biology:0
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Seryna on March 27, 2009, 05:11:17 PM

I'd go with a jaguar.  Lions have the strength and power, but jaguars are excellent for ambushing and stalking- and if someone's watching anothers Rhino or Lion, someone could dart in with a jaguar for the KO.  That's a bit like what Cassie or Tobias did with wolf/hawk morphs respectively.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on March 29, 2009, 01:25:49 PM
Lets say you morph a virus . . . what stops you from infecting your own guys on accident, leaving the enemy totally unbothered?

Also come on, a sloth can't get through solid feet of tissue paper, let alone steel. Now a mutant sloth on the other hand, one that's about ten feet tall with six foot long claws . . . they can get through the tissue paper, but still not the steel  :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 29, 2009, 01:45:53 PM
i still think you lot are underestimating the sloth....

but like i said earlyer i dont think a virus can count as a morph cuz its only one cell. i dont think you could go that small. also cells are mindless so you are much more likely to get stuck. the other problem is how would you reach your target.. if it was even a meter away you could never reach it within 2 hours.....
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on March 29, 2009, 02:09:33 PM
i still think you lot are underestimating the sloth....

It's really hard not to, it's so cute  ;)
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on March 29, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
Didn't bring it up earlier but when I was little I read somewhere that sloths were the slowest animals on the planet. I'm not sure what they meant by that because in theory anything can try and move as slow as possible. Point is sloth is not going to win any combat situations vs several feet of solid steel.

Now to viruses I'd agree you couldn't morph one but if you could in theory you could be an airbourne virus so I guess you could move further than you'd think in two hours. However 1 virus cell completely blind vs most organisms with an immune system won't do too much damage. Suppose it is an uber virulent multiplying virus in 2hours it'd still wouldn't reproduce that much methinks. Not to mention that a virus's effectiveness would be more susceptible to the environment (like temperature) than say a sloth :P
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on March 29, 2009, 07:42:34 PM
I'm pretty sure most viruses die when they inject DNA/RNA into a cell to reproduce.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Brad the Brit on March 30, 2009, 11:25:54 AM
I'm pretty sure most viruses die when they inject DNA/RNA into a cell to reproduce.

yer Think i think your right about that gimme a few minutes to look through my course books though
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: JFalcon on April 02, 2009, 07:08:14 AM
You know I've given it some thought and when it comes to assassination some sort of venomous snake is considered a pretty good morph right? But I'd go for something spookier.

I'd be a female Black Widow spider. See she's small enough to get in and out unnoticed, can cause severe pain to her victim and, should the bite be delivered to the right place, the chance of fatality jumps, what's more who the heck isn't scared to death when they see a Black Widow crawling up their arm? While its true you couldn't cover very much ground and are much easier to kill if your target is indoors a spider is less out of place than, say, a rattler.

Now if Ax had been a Black Widow when he bit Visser Three he would have been small enough to just keep biting him until the Andalite host body died . . . of course there's the whole "how would he get onto the Visser" question, but bare in mind, them spiders can make parachute things out of their silk and fly around, scary little buggers, so Ax flies onto Visser Three, bites him, then Visser Three gets super powers.

. . . no wait . . . well, never mind, the point is a Black Widow would be an awesome morph.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: ThinkAgain on April 06, 2009, 10:29:02 PM
Yes, while Black Widow venom is technically several times more powerful than many snakes,

Quote
Although these spiders are not especially large, their venom is extremely potent...The actual amount injected, even by a mature female, is very small in physical volume. When this small amount of venom is diffused throughout the body of a healthy, mature human, it usually does not amount to a fatal dose (though it can produce the very unpleasant symptoms of latrodectism). Deaths in healthy adults from Latrodectus bites are relatively rare in terms of the number of bites per thousand people.

I wouldn't want to settle for a chance, let alone if it will take a while.

I'd go with a Taipan snake as far as assassinations go. You're basically physically helpless and in tremendous pain within the first 5-10 minutes of a bite, and dead soon after.

Probably less. No one has died from a bite from an Inland Taipan, but only for two reasons. One, is that they are very rare and far from populated areas, and all bites from this snake are promptly treated with antivenom.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Shark Akhrrana on April 07, 2009, 01:59:09 AM
I think I'll have to go with Skunk
its one of my favorite animals.

but if you are going for strength I think maybe a mountain Lion

or a hippopotamus just because they don't look like they can kill you but they can.

Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: yunyun on January 25, 2011, 03:48:44 PM
anything:i would go andalite
stick to the zoo:um...tiger?or wolf(which belongs a bit more where i live).
with a  team:eagle
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: TobiasMasonPark on January 26, 2011, 10:27:31 AM
     How is a skunk a battle morph?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Josh (J) on January 26, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
Remember what it did to the Visser.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: NateSean on January 26, 2011, 11:26:52 AM
I'm partial to hyenas myself. Particularly the spotted hyena. Largely nocturnal, so good in dark places, and a strong bite force. Effective against humans and Taxxons and could do some damage to one particular Andalite-Controller.

Probably not so useful in direct combat with a Hork-Bajir, but great for attacking one from behind or in a vulnerable area.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: TobiasMasonPark on January 26, 2011, 08:23:17 PM
     Of course, we have no idea if a tiger could really take on a Hork-Bajir.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: BennyBoy on January 31, 2011, 04:43:44 AM
Anything: Unicorn... no, really. I have a totally badass horn like a Rhino and you can paint my legs blue and trick Controllers into thinking I'm an Andalite. =P

Zoo: Tiger or Snow Leopard (I generally stick to the second in fanfics or whatever but don't know how effective it would be.)

Team: Although I think the assasinating snake suggestion is tactical I have a complete phobia! Haha. Nah in a team I would still stick to one of the above two.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: NateSean on January 31, 2011, 07:45:58 AM
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Tiger or Snow Leopard

Or acquire both and do the frolis maneuver. They're genetically compatible, although the offspring would likely be sterile. But you'd have the strength and tenacity of the Tiger and Snow Leopard's landspeed.

Going that route, what zoos are carrying Ligers and Tigons these days?
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: Aquilai on January 31, 2011, 10:23:14 AM
So now are we officially moving on to new battle morphs using frolis maneuver? Funny this topic was 2 years old and it's been brought back about the same time as me!

If alien species within the Animorph's world are allowed (ignoring my previous Ellimist/Crayak level mentions and the planet sized aliens [Ellimist creator and Taxxon mountain]) then here are some other suggestions...the alien that used to prey on Andalites in their ancient times, Luminar or the flying bird predator Visser 3's morphs. Actually most of his morphs are incredibly deadly all potential battle morphs.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: BennyBoy on January 31, 2011, 04:45:15 PM
Or acquire both and do the frolis maneuver.

Ooohhh. That would be cool. The Frolis maneuver never made much sense to me. Only because it seems like the kind of technique that should be restricted to 'good morphers' like Cassie, but Ax is able to do it and he's young and inexperienced. Doesn't Elfangor do it as well? Or does he just acquire one guy?

I guess what I'm saying is, if the Frolis maneuver were simple enough for Ax to use then the other Animorphs should have been able to use it and create some awesome morphs.
Title: Re: Battle morphs
Post by: NateSean on February 01, 2011, 11:04:42 AM
Elfangor acquires several men and uses the frolis maneuver. It's in Andalite Chronicles that we learn the name for what Ax does.

Big cats are mostly compatible as hybrids. There's also an instance of wolves and coyotes interbreeding due to shortage of habitat.

Mind you the frolis maneuver may not actually work that way, but if four different humans can be combined in one morph then it's safe to assume that you could combine DNA of creatures from the same group as well.