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Title: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: wolfev on December 26, 2008, 12:33:43 PM
So if animorphs was for an older audience do you think other issues would have been tackled in the books? I mean would sex have factored into it? Would drugs? What do you all think
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: RYTX on December 26, 2008, 12:36:30 PM
Sex, yes specially b/w Rachel and Tobias, and Marco, the token player
drugs not so much, though I could see Jake picking up drinking at the end
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Duff on December 26, 2008, 12:43:40 PM
I agree that jake would probably take up drinking, marco might try a few things after becoming a ballin hollywood movie star lol

But during the actual series, they probably wouldnt, but maybe they could have touched on them dealing with the darker side of society, like the yeerks are using a special drug to enslave the addict community or they're using a brothel to infest all its customers, stuff like that would be interesting to see the animorphs have to deal with
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: wolfev on December 26, 2008, 01:20:23 PM
The brothel thing is an interesting idea
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Shock on December 26, 2008, 01:51:06 PM
i've been toying with idea of doing a adult themed animorph story.

if i ever get around to doing it.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: AcreLorraine on December 26, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
I'd be interested in reading it, and if something like that happened, it would be late in the books when things are in a general down note but not so late that everythings gone wrong.  At least if you tried to put it in timeline.  Drugs and addictions can be pretty heavy stuff.  But don't let Cassie narrate, it would be too moralized and there'd be too much mental arguments over right and wrong.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: wolfev on December 26, 2008, 02:42:51 PM
Please, she's smoking pot in her barn when the others aren't around. She isn't selling it, but I know she's had to have tried it by the end of the series.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on December 26, 2008, 03:26:55 PM
Please, she's smoking pot in her barn when the others aren't around. She isn't selling it, but I know she's had to have tried it by the end of the series.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Phoenix004 on December 26, 2008, 04:24:36 PM
I don't know about adult themed, but Animorphs would have been interesting if the Animorphs had been a bit older. If they ever do a movie or a decent TV show, I think they should make the Animorphs all 16 at the start.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: AniDragon on December 26, 2008, 06:59:23 PM
Drugs were mentioned a bit in Visser, remember? Visser One mentioned that she considered going after addicts, first, since they were easier to control. I think her host at the time she first came to Earth took heroin... Or maybe that was a fanfic...
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on December 26, 2008, 07:02:36 PM
i dont beleive they ever specified, but my thoughts were crack cocaine.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: AniDragon on December 26, 2008, 07:08:10 PM
Yeah, I think the heroin addict host is from a fanfic I read, and that they didn't specify Visser One's host's addiction.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Azguard on December 26, 2008, 07:08:18 PM
adult themed? hmmm...i wouldn't imagine much else would be different. maybe a bit deeper into ethical and moral dilemmas...
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: wolfev on December 26, 2008, 07:38:21 PM
It was cocaine. Her nickname was Jenny "LINES"
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: AniDragon on December 26, 2008, 07:43:35 PM
Ah. I TOTALLY hadn't caught that. lol.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Chad32 on December 26, 2008, 10:15:37 PM
I still don't catch that, but whatever. Drugs are drugs, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: wolfev on December 26, 2008, 11:02:04 PM
When you snort cocaine its called doing a line.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Slushie Man on December 27, 2008, 12:14:44 AM
I always thought about re-writing the Animorphs series, book-by-book, but having the characters in the 16-18 age range, and much more adult-themed. Like not actually showing sex scenes or anything, but possibly implying, and include various drug-themed sub-plots and all sorts of darker-related things.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Xan on December 27, 2008, 02:09:23 AM
Remember too, if the Animorphs were 18 then they could have:
Not had to go to school, but have to hold jobs
Could legally buy firearms :D
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Toc' on December 27, 2008, 04:57:21 AM
 Just to say...
Some yeerks also do drugs... Remember : Oatmeal !
 ;D
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: musicman88 on December 27, 2008, 09:35:04 AM
If you're looking for a bit more adult themed Animorphs story you could always try reading my fanfic "Ax the Prostitute" in the fanfiction section...

/shameless self plug
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Slushie Man on December 27, 2008, 10:48:21 AM
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Not had to go to school, but have to hold jobs

Well, depending on when their birthdays are, all or some, could still be in school until they're 19, and then there's also always college. But yes, one idea I would have loved to see them work with, was a couple of them trying to hold down a job while also being an Animorph.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: goom on December 27, 2008, 12:49:02 PM
It was cocaine. Her nickname was Jenny "LINES"

haha, i never realized that. awesome ;D
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on December 31, 2008, 12:10:26 AM
nor did i thats a good point i should have caught that. i have to finish the series
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Dameg on December 31, 2008, 02:17:28 AM
It was cocaine. Her nickname was Jenny "LINES"

haha, i never realized that. awesome ;D

Same here ^^'

I also thought about more sex (Cassie+Jake, Tobias+Rachel, Marco+..., Ax+?? lol) or more adult feelings and problems. And I agree for the movies, maybe they should say they're 16 at the beginning (with true 16-years-old actors).
In fact, I put more adult things in my fanfiction too. A part is sex (close to rape, in fact) and the main character also think about gay things lol. But it's still in French, sorry... (My main character is older than the Animorphs and has a job).
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Hylian Dan on December 31, 2008, 02:51:52 AM
The last two books seemed to me to have a slightly more adult tone. It was pretty clear KA assumed her audience had grown a bit since the earlier books. The villains were less cartoony-evil and more sadistic (Tom's Yeerk jeering about morphing Tom and beating Cassie, Visser One's killing spree), the violence was ramped up a few notches, the cursing was slightly more explicit (Tobias's "son-of-a-" comment), and the last book danced around the issue of sex a little.

It was a little jarring to see the Animorphs world take a step in that direction, not because the content was shocking, but because I could tell KA was taking the story past a few of the young audience filters that had been in place throughout the series. As much as I love the ending, I'd be really interested in KA continuing the story after shifting to an older audience.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Dameg on December 31, 2008, 03:52:09 AM
I agree.
In fact, I'd like she go into more adult things quicker... for example she could follow the age of characters/readers.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Chad32 on December 31, 2008, 12:14:33 PM
I think if a series starts out being geared towards a certain age range, then it should stay that way throughout the series. Even though over the years the first fans will have grown. How many years in real life did the series span, again. ~60 months would be ~5 years, give or take.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: nat on January 01, 2009, 04:01:31 AM
I agree that making Animorphs into a more adult theme would be interesting.

But I personally wouldn't like it if the series exploited some mature stuff only for the fun of adult readers.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: KOFSoldier on January 01, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
I always thought about re-writing the Animorphs series, book-by-book, but having the characters in the 16-18 age range, and much more adult-themed. Like not actually showing sex scenes or anything, but possibly implying, and include various drug-themed sub-plots and all sorts of darker-related things.

GREAT idea! I would definetly read it.

If KA did it and produced all the books again, then I would buy every single one. Again.

I love Animorphs, but it does seem to get a little (for lack of a better word) ridiculous when someone says something like "Visser 3 is a big jerk!".
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Dameg on January 02, 2009, 07:16:46 AM
I always thought about re-writing the Animorphs series, book-by-book, but having the characters in the 16-18 age range, and much more adult-themed. Like not actually showing sex scenes or anything, but possibly implying, and include various drug-themed sub-plots and all sorts of darker-related things.

GREAT idea! I would definetly read it.

If KA did it and produced all the books again, then I would buy every single one. Again.

I love Animorphs, but it does seem to get a little (for lack of a better word) ridiculous when someone says something like "Visser 3 is a big jerk!".
lol Yeah, and you don't know about the French translations ^^' Sometimes, it's softer than the English version!! So imagine!
I'd also read them all ^^ But I think nobody would do it, it's too long...
But fanfictions more adult themed must be interesting.
PS: Is there somewhere somebody who give advices of the Animorphs fanfictions? Because there are many in English, and I don't know which one is better to read... I read everyone in French, but I need more concentration and time to read in English, and there are about 100 times more fanfictions in English than in French ^^'
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Toc' on January 02, 2009, 07:23:34 AM
lol Yeah, and you don't know about the French translations ^^' Sometimes, it's softer than the English version!! So imagine!

Is it ?
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Dameg on January 02, 2009, 08:26:05 AM
Yeah, truth me, sometimes it is... Same for Harry Potter. Friends told me they deleted some parts... Sometimes they just change or delete the few little insults or change the descriptions to make them softer... It's just little changes, and I have no example, but there are...
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: AniDragon on January 02, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
I've noticed that the French language in general is a lot softer than English.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Xan on January 02, 2009, 04:58:12 PM
That's why I prefer German  ;D
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Dameg on January 03, 2009, 11:58:02 PM
lol A lot softer? Don't think so ;) We have many many words to say bad things too. But we usually don't use them in novels... only in daily life ^^
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Durpicorn! on January 07, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
I'd totally read Animorphs if it was more adult themed. I mean, I will get to it (eventually) But it would be more motivation if they were 16 or so.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: AniDragon on January 08, 2009, 01:26:22 PM
lol A lot softer? Don't think so ;) We have many many words to say bad things too. But we usually don't use them in novels... only in daily life ^^

See, I never found any words in the French language that sound really evil or nasty.
Title: Re: Older audiences sex, drugs, and animorphs
Post by: Dameg on January 08, 2009, 08:59:58 PM
lol A lot softer? Don't think so ;) We have many many words to say bad things too. But we usually don't use them in novels... only in daily life ^^

See, I never found any words in the French language that sound really evil or nasty.
I didn't too... in the Canadian French language ;)