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Title: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: goom on October 23, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
bored, decided to make a list. feel free to sugggest anything you want to it.


did i miss anything? :-\
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Gafrash on October 24, 2008, 01:50:00 AM
Morphing definitely has to do with the subject's state of mind. I find it interesting that even something like emotional stress can interfere with the process. And being 'allergic' to a morph is like acquiring a 'virus bug' to your morphing, too.

The 2hr limit is certainly THE BIGGEST set back on the technology though. Strange how it doesn't let a morpher spend a whole day straight in morph, but if you re-morph it resets the clock thing to the 2hrs again.

I can't remember which, but NOT ALL animals go under the short trance effect of having their DNA absorbed.
And I don't think you can mix the dna of different species. Only the ones of the one species and any sub-variations (like physical characteristics of race and sex) of the same.

I would also add to that allergy section, that one's body can also reject the morphing technology, such as the case of Mertil.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: morfowt on October 24, 2008, 05:07:19 AM
i wonder why the animorphs never used this in the other books?
KA said that mixing animals doesn't always create something superior, like what happened with marco in #35. The lobster/osprey was completely useless. Mixing animals doesn't always create something powerful, and it's definitely no good for hiding and blending in, so the animorphs would have no reason to mix morphs.

morphing can also heal poisoning, as long as the person isn't dead before finish morphing.

in some cases, it's possible to demorph while unconscious.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Gafrash on October 24, 2008, 08:09:05 PM
in some cases, it's possible to demorph while unconscious.

Hey, yeah. That just turns the Morphing tech even more complex to me.
How can one concentrate while unconscious?!?!?!?!?! NGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR RRRGH!!!!
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Nateosaurus on October 25, 2008, 05:22:45 AM
in some cases, it's possible to demorph while unconscious.

Hey, yeah. That just turns the Morphing tech even more complex to me.
How can one concentrate while unconscious?!?!?!?!?! NGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR RRRGH!!!!

Heh, yea, that is confusing. How is that possible? Authors love to confuse us, don't they?
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Duff on October 25, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
You can't actually morph nothlits. The only reason the auxiliaries could acquire Tobias was because the Ellimist turned the hawk into his true form.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: morfowt on October 25, 2008, 07:14:02 PM
has it been said in the book that you can't morph nothlits?
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Starsword on October 25, 2008, 11:40:21 PM
Lets say you want to draw your cat on a paper. I want to know what differentiates thinking about your cat versus thinking about your cat that would prevent you from morphing.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: goom on October 26, 2008, 12:02:46 AM
has it been said in the book that you can't morph nothlits?

you can morph nothlits. Loren acquired Tobias, remember?
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: morfowt on October 26, 2008, 12:41:11 AM
has it been said in the book that you can't morph nothlits?

you can morph nothlits. Loren acquired Tobias, remember?
the explanation for that is because of something the ellimist did when he gave him back his powers.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Gafrash on October 26, 2008, 03:24:25 AM
has it been said in the book that you can't morph nothlits?

you can morph nothlits. Loren acquired Tobias, remember?
the explanation for that is because of something the ellimist did when he gave him back his powers.

Therefore, not a 'nothlit' per si anymore.
I don't think an authentic nothlit was ever acquired in the series, neither had we an Andalite confirmation on the subject.

Lets say you want to draw your cat on a paper. I want to know what differentiates thinking about your cat versus thinking about your cat that would prevent you from morphing.

Seriously confused right there, Starsword-bro.

I think it's safe to say that NO AUTHOR has their details down pact at the early stages of their avant-guardes.
I mean, look us, the most 'advanced' species in the globe, with this organ, the appendix. They say it's totally useless.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: goom on October 26, 2008, 09:34:54 PM
has it been said in the book that you can't morph nothlits?

you can morph nothlits. Loren acquired Tobias, remember?
the explanation for that is because of something the ellimist did when he gave him back his powers.

Therefore, not a 'nothlit' per si anymore.
I don't think an authentic nothlit was ever acquired in the series, neither had we an Andalite confirmation on the subject.
ah, fixed it.

didn't think of that :)
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 26, 2008, 10:00:15 PM
I don't think it says anywhere that you can't morph a nothlit, or that being able to morph Tobias is some ability from the Elimist.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Liz on October 26, 2008, 10:07:17 PM
I'm pretty sure there are no restrictions on morphing nothlits.

Also, I think you missed a rule, although it's pretty obvious anyway:
-You can't acquire DNA while in morph.

And regarding the rule about only being able to morph skintight clothing, Estrid morphed normal clothing in #38, and Jake said in #47 that the Animorphs had learned to morph normal clothing by that point.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 26, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
Well, anything that wasn't baggy ::)
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Duff on October 27, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
Lets say you want to draw your cat on a paper. I want to know what differentiates thinking about your cat versus thinking about your cat that would prevent you from morphing.

You dont just focus on the cat, you have to focus on becoming the cat, instead of just picturing a paw while you draw, you are picturing your hand turning into a paw (had to read that sentence like 5 times to understand what the heck you were talking about lol)

i guess they never did specifically say you cant morph nothlits, i dno, i just always assumed if you cant morph someone in morph then whats the difference between someone permanently in morph. Since the only nothlit who was morphed was tobias, who is his own special level of weird, theres no real proof for or against it, who knows, who cares (oh wait...we care....thats why we're here 10 years later lol)
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 27, 2008, 04:03:16 PM
Aww, c'm'on, it's only been 7! ;)
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: goom on October 27, 2008, 04:10:44 PM
k, fixed up some things.

thanks for the feedback guys. :)
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: goom on March 05, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
haha, big :bump:

anyways, if you could change ONE rule about morphing, what would it be?
i'd probably extend/remove the two hour limit.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: EmberGryphon on March 05, 2009, 09:41:37 PM
morphing can also heal poisoning, as long as the person isn't dead before finish morphing.

It can also apparently heal viruses, a la Marco's rabies in one of the Helmacron ones.
Although I suppose that gets lumped in with healing... ^^()

Oh, and if I could change one rule about morphing? The first one, of course! If you didn't have to have an Escafil device to be able to morph, I'd be able to do it. =P
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: morfowt on March 06, 2009, 05:07:17 AM
hmm... a rule I would change... you could acquire morphs.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: CDJV on March 06, 2009, 06:07:45 PM
I'd like to be able to morph from one form to the other.

Also, here's a question I've seen pop up a few times.

1. Where does the mass coemf rom when you morph something larger than yourself? My best theory is that the andalites took a moon-sized ball of stemcells and deposited them into z-space.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Chad32 on March 06, 2009, 08:07:26 PM
I would change the part where your mass gets sent into Z-Space. I don't want to worry about being shot into Z-Space every time I morph.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: morfowt on March 06, 2009, 09:09:04 PM
My best theory is that the andalites took a moon-sized ball of stemcells and deposited them into z-space.
well that's a better theory than anything else I've heard of...
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: wildweathel on March 06, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
Actually, it makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: CDJV on March 06, 2009, 09:13:14 PM
Mind you, one has to wonder where they got al those stemcells from...
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: Dameg on March 08, 2009, 11:10:11 PM
Dead animals, cells rejected by people... or maybe only what you need to make a body... What did they say in FMA?
Title: Re: morphing rules and limitations
Post by: CDJV on March 08, 2009, 11:46:51 PM
well, I beleive Ed lists off all fo the elements found inside the human body, and then states that there is no equivalent for a soul. I beleive he then proceeds to complain about his height.

So perhaps, instead of making a bunch of stem cells, they extrapolated the size and amount of morphs their race would be doing, mined a large amount of a majority of minerals, and then deposited them into Z-Space.