Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Chad32 on September 26, 2008, 12:18:26 PM
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In book 13, Tobias said everything had been going on for about a year. That's 13 books in around 1 year. If we used that as some kind of measurement, then two years would be around book 26. But going like this to book 54 would make it more like 4 years. However, it's stated that it's been about 3 years at the end of the series.
So when is the two year mark? It's not really a big deal or anything, but it's something to talk about.
I was tempted to put this in the random questions thread, but no one ever pinned it and I think it's down past page three.
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I tend to generally figure that Tobias was over estimating and that the year mark comes around book 16. The two year mark would be around book 32, then the three year mark would be around 48. If you figure that books 48 to 54 couldn't have taken place that far apart, then it fits.
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that's true that's true. it seems some parts go way faster. like the last few books seem to take place rather quickly.
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Thats about 1 1/3 missions a month. What slackers
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Well, 1 1/3 missions a month worth writing books about anyway...
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Hahaha, thats a fact. But at least book characters can age as much as they need to, unlike movie actors.
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yea by the end they were in alot of missions, alot more than 54, alot of them started with them checking out some random sharing outlet or pool entrance or something like that, which probably happened alot
yea tobias' guess could have been a little off since he lived in the woods, but it didnt really matter too much in the long run
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Yeah, I never really thought about that. I guess there were just a lot of boring, routine, in between missions. That would be kinda weird if in between minor missions were referenced at points, not a reference that has any particular meaning, but just a curve ball.
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yea by the end they were in alot of missions, alot more than 54, alot of them started with them checking out some random sharing outlet or pool entrance or something like that, which probably happened alot
yea tobias' guess could have been a little off since he lived in the woods, but it didnt really matter too much in the long run
Yeah, I assumed that they had more missions that were closer together as the series progressed. So the two year mark being somewhere around 26 makes sense to me.
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In book 22 when Jake tells David they've been in this war for.... 'what seems like forever', I was like "Noooo! Tell us how long it's been! Give us a marker!"
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"what seems like forever" can actually be calculated to .... 579 days and 22 hours. =)
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i bet if you went back you could kinda get a ballpark, cause they do alot of, it had been months since so and so and we had just got back from so you could put together some kind of rough timeline, too much work tho lol
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It's weird because the series came out in 1996 which means that the Animorph involvement should've began than or possibly even earlier than that. So if it was a 3 year war the war should've ended in 1999 which was around book 30 something? Confusing...
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The books don't follow the real time line at all, like any other book series. Some books are obviously one right after another immediately, like the David trilogy, even though they were each released a month apart, and some are further apart than the month between the book releases. Three years for 54 stories plus the megamorphs is pretty spot on.
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Yes the war was three years long, which means that technically a year passes every 18 books, but this probably won't be the case since different amounts of time pass between each book.
The number of missions they've been on is unknown because they will have been on missions that weren't in the books.
This question should really have been posted in the triva thread, which is reserved for questions with simple, one answer questions. It is stickied at the top of the page and can be found here http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,823.0.html
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Well, the war was three years long, right? And then in the final book three years pass by, right? So if they started in '96 and went to 2001 then that equals five years. But probably due to rounding and whatnot it's a close enough time line. That must mean that the actual war ended in 1999ish.
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Didn't the conflict on Earth technically start when Visser One introduced The Sharing and handed the Yeerk Invasion Campaign over to Visser Three??? How many years BEFORE the Andalite fleet lost to Visser Three's forces above our atmosphere? How much time BEFORE Jake and the others met Elfangor and were given The Power to Morph???
If we were to count it from book one, was it really 3 years??? Some of the plots in the books felt like they lied right next month to one another. Like, the others mentioned Cassie's 'quitting the team' in two books afterwards as if they were a month ago. Then there was the David trilogy; 3 books in one week or so! Tobias finding his 'auntie Arya' was like the month after or something. The Anti-Morphing ray plots with Rachel and Tobias weren't THAT far apart.
And also take in consideration that though there are 54 books and a lot of them had more than one mission concerning opposing the Yeerks, some of them had nothing relevant to the fighting war storyline. Like in the Familiar or even in The Attack.
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I believe Eva was infested a year and a half before Elfangor came. It says in Book 5, I believe. So that should be some help.
Not to mention that the whole war started around the sixties. I'd have to reread Visser to see if there are any other indications.
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Yes the war was three years long, which means that technically a year passes every 18 books, but this probably won't be the case since different amounts of time pass between each book.
The number of missions they've been on is unknown because they will have been on missions that weren't in the books.
This question should really have been posted in the triva thread, which is reserved for questions with simple, one answer questions. It is stickied at the top of the page and can be found here http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,823.0.html
well i dno mike, this can kind of turn into a discusion about the lengths between books and everything, i dont think nohansen was looking to confirm it was three years, but to discuss the time more in depth
yea for alot of them it doesnt add any time for the overall timeline, and dont some of them skip ahead a few days even a week during the book
yea when something important happens between the animorphs, like you said about cassie quitting, they do kinda talk about it like it was really recent even after a few books, but in that example, marco is the kind of guy that wouldnt just let that go, he'd be thinking about it for at least a few months anyway
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You know, once upon a time I really did have this all written out somewhere....I think it was posted over on e.a.r....
Anyhow.
Seerow's Kindness results in a Yeerk uprise in 1966
Hork-Bajir invasion begins 1968, ends 1969/1970
Sometime between 1970 and 1975 the Yeerks make a deal with the Taxxons and set up a base on their world.
The Andalite Chronicles begins 21 years before The Invasion. That would be 1975. This is they year that the Yeerks discovered humans and that Edriss went to Earth and began to establish stuff there. During the time from approximately 1975 to 1994 Edriss is in charge of Earth. Sometime in 1994/1995 control over the operation shifted to Visser Three and Edriss left Earth, resulting in Eva's "death". 1996 is when the Animorphs begin to fight.
As for the timeline of the main series, it's a bit more convoluted.
Generally, books 1-3 occur during about a months time. Book 15 or 16 marks the one year point.
The issues with David come shortly after the one year point, and I'm guessing the two year point hits around book 30, leaving books 31-54 to take place during the remaining time.
The final story arc probably occurs over maybe a month, tops, I think.
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that sounds about right t, good work
i always pictured the later books as being more grouped together, more like non-stop war instead of hey lets go on another mission its been a while like it was earlier on. Cause if they let all the other aspects of their life kinda slip away then it wasnt just a weekly or even monthly thing they were getting into
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nor a daily. more like an hourly.
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wow Terenia, nice!
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I also think the time go differently between the books. Sometimes a mission (1 book) is on about 3 or 4 weeks, sometimes a long mission (2 or 3 books) is only 1 week. I didn't really care of that... But what confused me was the seasons... We don't really know which season it is. And same for hollidays: the Animorphs don't seem to have long hollidays with their family, for example... It's quite strange...
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maybe they live in an alternate reality? haha
or, they just aren't mentioned in the books cuz nothing dramatic happens.
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They live in California. Seasons as most people think of them (a distinct summer/fall/winter/spring) doesn't really exist. I'm guessing there is maybe a 20 or 30 degree difference between summer and winter, but nothing dramatic.
Holidays I think weren't mentioned specifically to maintain the ambiguity of time. Remember, until 54 is published we have absolutely no idea how much time has passed. In addition, holidays aren't really essential to the war timeline so they aren't that important to write about. K.A. skipped over the Chanukah celebration in favor of going directly to the next mission. :)
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yeah, I'm from California....seaso ns don't vary too much... but it's alright! ;D
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No wonder they never mentioned snow around where they lived or anything. Sometimes in the early part of the series, I wondered how Ax and Tobias would adjust to snow or something. Of course it wouldn't be as bad as The Extreme, though.
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You mean... F degrees? or C degrees? How much is it in C degrees???
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Er...sorry....20 or 30 degrees Fahrenheit. No clue what that would be Celsius. ???
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Say the difference between winter and summer in California is like 65-95 F which is 18 to 35C
I don't live in California, I'm just estimating the temp in F and converting it.
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You know, once upon a time I really did have this all written out somewhere....I think it was posted over on e.a.r....
Anyhow.
Seerow's Kindness results in a Yeerk uprise in 1966
Hork-Bajir invasion begins 1968, ends 1969/1970
Sometime between 1970 and 1975 the Yeerks make a deal with the Taxxons and set up a base on their world.
The Andalite Chronicles begins 21 years before The Invasion. That would be 1975. This is they year that the Yeerks discovered humans and that Edriss went to Earth and began to establish stuff there. During the time from approximately 1975 to 1994 Edriss is in charge of Earth. Sometime in 1994/1995 control over the operation shifted to Visser Three and Edriss left Earth, resulting in Eva's "death". 1996 is when the Animorphs begin to fight.
As for the timeline of the main series, it's a bit more convoluted.
Generally, books 1-3 occur during about a months time. Book 15 or 16 marks the one year point.
The issues with David come shortly after the one year point, and I'm guessing the two year point hits around book 30, leaving books 31-54 to take place during the remaining time.
The final story arc probably occurs over maybe a month, tops, I think.
Terenia, awesome work on the timeline you created there. It's really valid.
It's unreal how the Andalite X Yeerk conflict feels, to my senses, like it's centuries old, but even in my calculations, I realized it's decades. Like, it never felt to me like the Andalite Chronicles happened 20 or so years before #1. Elfangor would have been old when he crashlanded on Earth, but you just proved I was always wrong to think that he was 100 years old.
I kinda like the ambiguity with the time in the Animorphs series. The fact that you don't know what season it played in, it's all up to us, the readers, referring to our Principle of Closure.
PS: I reckon MM#1 had a holidays kinda feel to it.
yeah, I'm from California....seaso ns don't vary too much... but it's alright! ;D
Hey, Azguard, random question.
Since you are from California, could you point me to some site or are you able to send me decent photos of locations in California. I am seeking to start collecting random images of where I could see as the Animorphs' town. Like: Houses, subdivisions, parks, High Schools, landmarks, downtown, high rise buildings...
Like, is there a big Mall complex you could see being the one Rachel and the others frequented?!
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Thanks Cerulean, now I understand ^^
Like Gafrash, I sometimes think that Yeerks and Andalites hate each other for a long time, but then I remember they met only 20 or 30 years before #1 ^^'
Elfangor could be 100 years old, we don't know how long Andalites live. I often thought they could live about 150 years.
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yeah. I always thought that too until I read Hork-Bajir Chronicles. Then I was like... "what? it hasn't even been that long?"
i guess i was expecting something like Stargate with the Asgard and the Go'auld.
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BTW, yeah Gafrash, how do you want me to get them to you?
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Oi, Azguard, had to dig up this thread again, b/c I hadn't read it in a while!
If you’re still keen to send us some images, use my mail on me avatar there. Appreciated!
All I can picture about California is your Governator saying… “Nghaaaaaaaaarrrrrgh!”
Random Question: Has anyone written maybe a list of the Yeerk Campaign on Earth? Like, a statement of some sort about the successes and losses of their invasion?