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Title: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Kitulean on September 26, 2008, 06:04:46 AM
I just started reading through the books again, and I noticed that Jake refers to Marco's tactical ability in the first couple pages, when he says that he has more games at home but Marco has this uncanny ability to analyze games and figure out all the little tricks. I just thought that was cool that she laid that out that early and weird that I never noticed it before. But then after the first read I tended to skim read the first couple chapters by reflex.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: filmstu2005 on September 26, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
Yea, I remember reading that too.  But in "Visser," when Eva tells Edriss that Marco inherited his strategic ability from her, or in her words "the ability to see from Point A to Point B. He got that trait from me." i thought it came off as a bit forced on her part.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Toby Hamee on September 26, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
I have to agree with Filmstu, I think the "A to B" thing was a bit overplayed. I don't know, I didn't really like Visser. To me, it just didn't fit in with the other books. It was too serious, too doom and gloom, for my taste anyways.
But, yes, Marco's one smart cookie!
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Starsword on September 26, 2008, 07:35:19 PM
I liked Visser, because it was doom and gloom, people from all walks of life, though yea, I dont think she would say the A to B thing. But nonetheless, figuring out video games is interesting because it has nothing with the direct A to B but more the manipulation of a set of rules.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 26, 2008, 09:18:18 PM
Well, it's basically the fundamental component to Marco's entire character...

The whole disconnected ruthlessness, dealing with that stuff through humor so he can focus on the task at hand. 
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Starsword on September 26, 2008, 10:18:51 PM
Thats not really valid, humor and disconnection do not problem solve. The video game reference has to mean something to the effect of he is able to naturally manipulate situations based on given data.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 26, 2008, 10:43:34 PM
Um, yes.  Exactly.  Marco was the most strategically intelligent of the kids, and that was there even before the war, as the videogame intuition shows.

Why is this complicated?
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Starsword on September 27, 2008, 11:31:30 AM
Because video games are more tactics, less strategy. So I guess he was good at both.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on September 27, 2008, 04:39:21 PM
 unless he was playing a strategy based game. hahaha


 on another note, I did like Visser because it felt more alien.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Starsword on September 27, 2008, 09:30:57 PM
I liked Visser because it was very real. Andalite Chronicles was good, but the Time Matrix is far less believable then the very complex, devious, and relatable invasion plans.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 27, 2008, 10:14:52 PM
Because video games are more tactics, less strategy. So I guess he was good at both.

Play more videogames.  Goodnight.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on September 27, 2008, 10:32:58 PM
 will do captain! *salutes and turns to play Combat Arms*
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: morfowt on September 28, 2008, 02:10:56 AM
I aint playing video games cuz
1. I hate video games
2. Don't have one and don't know where to play one
3. Don't have the time
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on September 28, 2008, 07:13:36 PM
 well, good. video games are a waste of time if you get addicted.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Starsword on September 29, 2008, 12:28:29 PM
That is true, but Marco seems like the type of person that never wasted a moment.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Duff on September 29, 2008, 12:38:09 PM
I think he had to do with being able to see all the angles and then being able to focus on the most relevant and the most direct to reach his goal. He looks at a video game he says okay I've got two enemies over there, cover right here, side path, boulders overhead, If I shoot the boulders they will fall and kill the enemies, boom. He looks at a mission and says this is what the yeerks have, this is what we have, how do we get what we need.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on September 29, 2008, 09:02:32 PM
 yeah, video games and cmputer games can do that. You're always trying to outthink your opponent and using surroundings.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: morfowt on September 29, 2008, 09:54:52 PM
eh...if I want to do that, I'd rather play chess.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 01, 2008, 04:09:39 PM
 chess is good. i think that works too.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Kitulean on October 02, 2008, 02:24:15 AM
Yes, but chess has horrendous graphics and there's no single player campaign mode.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: morfowt on October 02, 2008, 04:41:53 AM
single player what mode? what do you mean graphics? I'm talking about a 8x8 square board, 32 pieces, 16 black, 16 white, kings, queens, bishops, knights, rooks, pawns...what are you talking about?
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Kitulean on October 02, 2008, 06:30:48 AM
lol, never mind. It was a joke. I know what you're talking about. I like chess too. I just also like video games. And movies, and reading, and music, and running. I have a lot of interests. :P One of them happens to be making bad jokes, apparently. :D

To explain the joke a bit better, I was using the same standards that people review video games with today to complain about live chess.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Nateosaurus on October 02, 2008, 02:48:40 PM
Hey, the joke wasn't bad, I thought it was alright :P

I have a question, whats a rook? It's been bugging me ever since someone mentioned it in Heroes, lol...

edit: never mind, I looked it up in the dictionary. The castles. I get ya.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 02, 2008, 02:53:07 PM
 I liked it Cerulean. I laughed.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Chad32 on October 02, 2008, 03:39:47 PM
It was a nice joke. Morfowt just has picky humor. Or Aquwaigher. How should I pronounce that, anyway?
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 02, 2008, 03:54:49 PM
 i pronounce it like this "Ah-gway-er". haha
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: morfowt on October 02, 2008, 06:15:50 PM
it's supposed to be pronounced the same way as acquire, since that's where I got it from.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Chad32 on October 02, 2008, 06:18:46 PM
Oh, I can see it now!
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 02, 2008, 06:33:10 PM
Oh, THAT'S what it is-you have a funny way of spelling out English :P ;)!
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: morfowt on October 02, 2008, 06:35:51 PM
well I didn't want to make my name spelled exactly the same as acquire...oh wait that was a joke wasn't it?

and this should be continued in the how do you pronounce your username/why did you choose your username thread.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 02, 2008, 07:21:11 PM
 you like those changed name spellings. hehe
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: V2113 on October 06, 2008, 03:21:31 PM
Because video games are more tactics, less strategy. So I guess he was good at both.

Play more videogames.  Goodnight.

WAY more video games. Or at least stop playing NickJr video games. I play video games all the time, constantly trying to use strategic strategies to get to the end of the game with either the most points, the most players, or the most secrets unlocked.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 06, 2008, 06:01:52 PM
 you are one interesting 10 year old V. haha
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 06, 2008, 08:32:34 PM
Who here's 10? :o
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Cloak on October 06, 2008, 08:34:03 PM
Check tobiasfan21's profile, venemousspiderwooki ee.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 06, 2008, 08:36:21 PM
Thanks ;)!
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 06, 2008, 09:52:48 PM
 V...haha...reminds me of Z from Ants.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Duff on October 07, 2008, 09:55:35 AM
whoa i never knew you were 10 lol

yea strategy is extremely important in videogames...such as strategy games haha
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Azguard on October 07, 2008, 12:23:05 PM
 RPG's and to different extents, FPS.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: Estelore on October 07, 2008, 05:33:43 PM
BAAACK on-topic, I found the 'from point A to point B' thing a bit over-used...

but I know exactly how that mind-set works. It's how my brain works, most of the time...

except that I typically reach point B by going THROUGH points C through Z in the process of leaving point A. I'm hard to side-track, in the long run, but only because I'm fast enough to stop my mind wandering. It DOES wander, though. I multi-task well.

I wonder how Marco would do in a multiple-calculations situation, where he has to analyze several problems at once, and rapidly. Most of the time in the books, he only has one big situation to handle.

Hmmmn.
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: morfowt on October 07, 2008, 05:41:42 PM
I don't think I understood that. So for me I can't even get from point A to point B-Z?
Title: Re: Just now noticed about Marco
Post by: zaprowsdower on October 08, 2008, 10:39:59 PM
I wonder how Marco would do in a multiple-calculations situation, where he has to analyze several problems at once, and rapidly. Most of the time in the books, he only has one big situation to handle.

Hmmmn.
As he is a guy, I don't think he is capable :P

I know I'm not :(