Author Topic: Cassie and Rachel  (Read 7611 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline filmstu2005

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 177
  • Karma: 22
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2008, 02:50:51 AM »
Some say the author is well within her rights to do what she wants to her characters. I say that after spending around $300 on the series, I am well within my rights to not agree with it.

Wow. 

No, you don't have to agree with what she chose to do with the ending, but...come on.  That's a really immature way of looking at it.  It's creativity, it's her literary property (well, Scholastic's, but she's the driving creative force), and she's absolutely free to do whatever she wants with it.  It worked for the story, and no, she doesn't owe you anything.  You chose to spend $300 on the books, she hasn't stolen it from you or robbed you of a satisfactory product.  It's not a faulty product not meeting standards: it's a book.  The contents of the book are personal taste, and the fact you spend 300 bucks on it isn't her fault at all.

Art is in the public domain.  It's just as much ours as it is hers.  Without us, she doesn't really have the series (no one pays to produce something that doesn't sell).  So it's not immature at all and it is well within our rights to disagree.
                                                                                                                                                                   


And I completely agree with that statement. It's not immature. Its the same as watching your favorite TV show. You think the network is gonna keep a show on the air when the writers pull some complete b.s. that pisses off the fans and makes them stop watching? I don't think so. Which why I say the guy who wrote the final episode for the Sopranos got LUCKY. It was wrong of him to leave his huge audience of like, 6 years, in the dark like that. Literally. Especially for the final episode? WTF was he thinking? See, there's creativity. And then there's trying to BE creative in a really stupid way. If anyone was wrong, it was him.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2008, 02:54:29 AM by filmstu2005 »

Offline morfowt

  • God
  • ********
  • Posts: 8333
  • Karma: 112
  • Gender: Male
  • this is my avatar. it's a picture of nothing...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2008, 03:29:37 AM »
well it's kinda hard to make me stop watching/reading a series. Almost every single time, either practically everything about a series pisses me off (so I just don't start watching/reading it in the first place), or practically nothing about a series pisses me off. I don't know why, but it's true. Most of the time, if I do get pissed off, I just forget about it and move on. I don't stop watching/reading it. Of course there are a few exceptions, like harry potter. stopped reading at book 4.

and how did a topic about cassie and rachel, turn into this?

Offline XenomorphLV426

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 770
  • Karma: -75
  • Gender: Male
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2008, 04:17:35 AM »
Probably because Rachel was so heavily involved in why people seem to hate the ending so badly.

Offline morfowt

  • God
  • ********
  • Posts: 8333
  • Karma: 112
  • Gender: Male
  • this is my avatar. it's a picture of nothing...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 04:30:07 AM »
if people want to talk about the ending, there are plenty (or at least were plenty) of threads to talk about it in.

Offline Kelly

  • Gold Donor
  • *********
  • Posts: 9088
  • Karma: 279
  • Gender: Female
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 04:52:09 AM »
I was just going through the old books and I stopped on The Underground and The Unknown, notably Cassie and Rachel books. And as I read through them I realized just how interesting the chemistry b/w Rachel and Cassie was.
that was really interesting to read (the whole thing, I just deleted most to make it smaller).
"I always considered myself a loner. I mean, not like a poor-me, Byron-esque, I-should-have-broughta-swimming-buddy loner. I mean the sort of person who doesn’t feel too upset about the prospect of a weekend spent seeing no one, and reading good books on the couch. It wasn’t like I was a people hater or anything. I enjoyed activities and the company of friends. But they were a side dish. I always thought I would also be happy without them."

- Harry Dresden/Jim Butcher, Ghost Story.

Offline Phoenix004

  • RAF Ancient
  • Sr. Staff
  • *****
  • Posts: 20492
  • Karma: 710
  • Gender: Male
  • With great RAFpower comes great RAFsponsibility...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 05:58:35 AM »
Stay on topic please.
Animorphs Travels #1 The Invasion
http://animorphsforum.com/index.php?topic=10876.msg860745#msg860745

RAFcon 2015: It's always Hot Dog Day somewhere!

Offline filmstu2005

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 177
  • Karma: 22
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2008, 11:42:47 PM »
and how did a topic about cassie and rachel, turn into this?

Yeah. No one seemed to be interested in Cassie and Rachel's relationship,  at least not like me. But its still interesting to talk about their other respective relationships.

Offline Starsword

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 285
  • Karma: -5
  • Gender: Male
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2008, 10:19:28 AM »
We always want what we can't have. They admired each other because Rachel and Cassie could never be the other but saw valuable qualities in their counterpart. That would lead to friendship I think.
Until then we fight.

Offline Phoenix004

  • RAF Ancient
  • Sr. Staff
  • *****
  • Posts: 20492
  • Karma: 710
  • Gender: Male
  • With great RAFpower comes great RAFsponsibility...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2008, 01:52:30 PM »
We always want what we can't have. They admired each other because Rachel and Cassie could never be the other but saw valuable qualities in their counterpart. That would lead to friendship I think.

I agree. Just like in real life, friendships are often more interesting when the two friends are polar opposites, or at least not exactly the same. I don't know about you guys, but I have several friends who I admire for traits that I wish I had myself. I would assume it's the same for Cassie and Rachel.

It would have been cool to see flashbacks to when some of them became friends though. Maybe not for Marco and Jake who knew each other since very early childhood, but maybe for Rachel and Cassie, or Cassie and Jake.
Animorphs Travels #1 The Invasion
http://animorphsforum.com/index.php?topic=10876.msg860745#msg860745

RAFcon 2015: It's always Hot Dog Day somewhere!

Offline Starsword

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 285
  • Karma: -5
  • Gender: Male
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2008, 02:03:47 PM »
A preview of life before the Animorphs would have been pretty cool, just one book leading up to The Invasion, just to get a greater perspective on the impact of the war, although it is generally pretty clear.
Until then we fight.

Offline Phoenix004

  • RAF Ancient
  • Sr. Staff
  • *****
  • Posts: 20492
  • Karma: 710
  • Gender: Male
  • With great RAFpower comes great RAFsponsibility...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2008, 02:51:32 PM »
I don't think a whole book would have been necessary, since #1 and Megamorphs #4 both had elements of life without the Yeerks. I just would have been nice to see how some of them met for the first time.
Animorphs Travels #1 The Invasion
http://animorphsforum.com/index.php?topic=10876.msg860745#msg860745

RAFcon 2015: It's always Hot Dog Day somewhere!

Offline Starsword

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 285
  • Karma: -5
  • Gender: Male
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2008, 05:02:00 PM »
I would have liked to have seen their relationships with people outside of the Animorphs just to see how the relationship changed. They don't really have friends...ever...ex cept for Melissa Chapman.
Until then we fight.

Offline Phoenix004

  • RAF Ancient
  • Sr. Staff
  • *****
  • Posts: 20492
  • Karma: 710
  • Gender: Male
  • With great RAFpower comes great RAFsponsibility...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2008, 05:10:07 PM »
Is it really so unusual for people to have only a few really close friends? Besides, after becoming Animorphs they probably didn't have a lot of time to socialise with other friends they might have had.
Animorphs Travels #1 The Invasion
http://animorphsforum.com/index.php?topic=10876.msg860745#msg860745

RAFcon 2015: It's always Hot Dog Day somewhere!

Offline morfowt

  • God
  • ********
  • Posts: 8333
  • Karma: 112
  • Gender: Male
  • this is my avatar. it's a picture of nothing...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2008, 05:12:23 PM »
yeah. I don't have a lot of close friends here at my school, although that could be because I'm a new kid.

Offline Phoenix004

  • RAF Ancient
  • Sr. Staff
  • *****
  • Posts: 20492
  • Karma: 710
  • Gender: Male
  • With great RAFpower comes great RAFsponsibility...
Re: Cassie and Rachel
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2008, 05:16:13 PM »
yeah. I don't have a lot of close friends here at my school, although that could be because I'm a new kid.

New kid? Word of advice: if you find a mysterious blue box in a construction site, don't tell anybody! (Except me!)  ;)
Animorphs Travels #1 The Invasion
http://animorphsforum.com/index.php?topic=10876.msg860745#msg860745

RAFcon 2015: It's always Hot Dog Day somewhere!