Author Topic: Would you have preferred it if the Andalites actually saved Earth? (Read 3886 times)

Chad32 · « **on:** July 31, 2008, 10:24:29 PM »

KA had ghostwriters write a lot of the later books because she was busy with other stuff. Her new book series, for example. Would anyone have rather her just write a book or two where the Andalites actually do come and save Earth, instead of having ghostwriters take over to keep the series going?

And I mean save Earth in a good way. In the beginning they say they're just trying to hold off the Yeerks until the Andalites get there. I was once under the impression that this was how KA would end the series if she got tired of writing books, or got busy, or whatever.

morfowt · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:26:54 PM »

uh...no. That just seems...I don't know...weird. No, keep the ending as it is.

Duff · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:27:44 PM »

no, the ghostwriten books were a little lower quality but they doubled the size of our beloved series, and alot of them were great stories and were written really well, sure they missed the tone of the origionals most of the time but hey, somethings better than nothing

wotw2112 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:29:07 PM »

Would have ruined the series even though I HATE the idea of ghostwriters as a rule.

Then again the ending we got wasn't much better... But that's for another topic.

ANItiger13 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:32:47 PM »

Yeah, it wouldn't have been good if the Andalites saved it...Just seems like it would have worked out too well. The ghostwritten books weren't the same, but how the series is works perfectly.

Tiana · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:34:25 PM »

lol by then I didn't really like the Andalites that much so I'd much prefer the Earthlings save Earth

Chad32 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:38:14 PM »

That's a lot of quick replies. Even the guy that dislikes ghostwriters in general said no. Well, it was just a thought. I don't think it would have ruined the series, since that was the Animorph's mission. Not to save the world, but to just slow down the invasion until the "calvary" showed up.

Duff · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:43:12 PM »

but it would have mulled the message, their mission changed slowly as they realized that the andalites werent coming, them waiting for their saviors was a juvenile hope that died out as they all came to realize that they were fighting the war, alone

having the andalites come and save the day would have told kids hey, dont worry about facing your problems head on, someone will come save you, its not your job

Chad32 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:46:21 PM »

But they are kids...so it really isn't.

I never really cared for the thought of her trying to send a message about war. Maybe because I was old enough to know that already.

Duff · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:50:08 PM »

they are kids, so it isnt a juvenile hope? what do you mean?

not being an ass, just dont know what your trying to say lol

morfowt · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:53:29 PM »

How old is old enough to know already?

Chad32 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:56:41 PM »

Telling kids that it's ok to let someone more experienced handle the really complicated and hard stuff is fine, because they are kids. I don't see that as a bad message to send to kids, because people that young do need to have people they lean on.

Does that make better sense? It's ok for kids to not have to make adult decisions, because they aren't adults.

Maturity levels should matter more than age itself, but I think discussing that may be off topic.

Duff · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:03:16 PM »

Good point

but im an adult (kinda lol) and i was a kid when i read animorphs, and i took the lessons that they learn, and i think they still affect me.

So even if the lesson was okay for me when I was a kid (in your opinion, personally i think kids should learn to be independent but thats kinda off topic as you said) its not okay for me to carry with me into adulthood, and whos there to tell me not to?

wotw2112 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:09:12 PM »

I agree wholeheartedly. I learned alot from the books (more than I realized as it turns out). I don't think the message should have been diluted with an Andalite return. That's exactly what Applegate seemed to be trying to avoid.

Yorick Brown · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:02:37 AM »

Hell no. I loved these adventures. They were damn good ghostwriters. Why do people always bring them up?

The Extreme, The Attack, The Sickness, The Illusion, The Prophecy, The Weakness, The Arrival, The Other, The Journey and The Revelation were all fantastic.

Duff · « **Reply #15 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:13:26 AM »

the attack was origional K and M, but i agree, they are classic animorphs, i couldnt live without any of them...cept maybe 36 haha

Starsword · « **Reply #16 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:47:07 AM »

I figured it would have been cool if the Andalites came to save the day, but they weren't the saviors they first thought, and the Animorphs had to win it any way in open war, with some losses. Of course, this wouldn't actually win the war, it would just win Earth.

Myitt · « **Reply #17 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:26:07 PM »

Personally I think it was realistic that the Andalites just kept on never arriving, and these kids, who were forced not to be kids anymore, had to keep fighting tooth and nail (literally) to try and save their own planet. When the Andalites finally do show up, they want to blast the place into a cinder to keep the place from Yeerk domination. I can see some more ruthless human leaders wanting to do the same thing, after all, they're "just aliens", like how Jake thought of the Yeerks in the Pool ship. It's easy to shield yourself from killing innocent or at least helpless people if it's accomplishing something you think is a necessary evil. If the Andalites showed up, shredders blasting, it would've taken away all of the strength of the Animorphs' fight over the years, and all of the interesting moral questions the last couple of books brought up. Plus it would've been pretty boring and predictable.

So no...I would've really disliked it if the Andalites saved the day x3

Liz · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:15:31 PM »

It would have been a terrible ending if the Andalites had come and saved the planet and all the Animorphs lived happily ever after. I'm glad the Andalites turned out to be more interesting and complex than the great and glorious saviors we thought they were at the start of the series.

Gaz · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2008, 03:15:04 PM »

I'd like to say that it would be neat if the Andalites had burst in guns a-blazin' to save the day. But, in my opinion, that would sort of be out of character for the Andalites. It is mentioned several times throughout the series, if I recall correctly, that the Andalites are best known for being arrogant. It doesn't seem like blazing to the rescue would really be their style.

Also, don't they have a semi-low opinion of humans anyway? They see us as primitive, and coming to Earth's rescue probably wasn't high on their priority list. And it does take a long time to travel out to this neck of the woods for them. Visser Three states in the first book that Elfangor is the last Andalite in the sector. (Not counting Ax, of course)

In the TV series at least, I don't recall about the books, Visser Three also makes the snide comment that the Andalite forces are spread much to thin to do anything about Earth. If this is true in the book as well, then it could be that the Andalites may, just may, have wanted to do something, but didn't have the troops available as they were probably defending other fronts. Such as their own home planet.

Another reason the Andalites don't come blazing in. That law about sharing technology. If they came down, then I'm pretty sure people would see them. They'd be exposing their culture and technology to a wide range of people. And that's sort of what they're trying to avoid, isn't it?

I also agree with the fact that this book series was trying to stay close to the real world. I felt it was easier to connect with some aspects of it. And ya gotta face it, people blazing into save the day right when you need it doesn't really happen in real life.

Terenia · « **Reply #20 on:** August 02, 2008, 02:41:09 PM »

Well one of the reasons the Andalites didn't rush in and save the day was because they didn't think Earth was as big of a priority as other systems. The Yeerks were in force in multiple places in the galaxy and the Andalites picked where to send their troops, and they didn't pick Earth.

I think it would have totally ruined everything if the Andalites came in and saved the day. I love the fact that the "good guys", the Andalites, ended up being total creeps who were going to blow up Earth. It sent a powerful message. If they had just come and saved Earth and everyone went home happy it would have been unrealistic. Especially after all the build up with Seerow's Kindness, Alloran and the quantum virus, various Andalite betrayals, etc.

wotw2112 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 02, 2008, 05:46:45 PM »

Agreed, any such riding to the rescue would have changed the very nature of the andalites and the way we view them.

Azguard · « **Reply #22 on:** September 02, 2008, 02:12:07 PM »

They would have come riding to the rescue....eliminati ng the Humans in the process! The Andalites only see Humans as an asset to the Yeerks. If it would weaken the Yeerks they would gladly kill us. I mean, if they've been fighting the war for this long (and who knows how many other ones at the same time) it would wear down generations of people! I guess since they didn't come to Earth we weren't a pressing objective...or the Yeerks just weren't too much of a bother in this area. I mean, if the Yeerks could get hold of a Class 5 species, wouldn't that have made it a high priority on the Andalite military list? Or maybe...they were having trouble at home. I'm sure the public would know about the Yeerk threat...maybe just not the extent.

If you don't have feelings for the enemy...or the collateral (us), then it's easier to deal with. Once you start developing feelings that's when things get complicated...

Chad32 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 02, 2008, 02:30:25 PM »

Quote from: Azguard on September 02, 2008, 02:12:07 PM

They would have come riding to the rescue....eliminati ng the Humans in the process! The Andalites only see Humans as an asset to the Yeerks. If it would weaken the Yeerks they would gladly kill us. I mean, if they've been fighting the war for this long (and who knows how many other ones at the same time) it would wear down generations of people! I guess since they didn't come to Earth we weren't a pressing objective...or the Yeerks just weren't too much of a bother in this area. I mean, if the Yeerks could get hold of a Class 5 species, wouldn't that have made it a high priority on the Andalite military list? Or maybe...they were having trouble at home. I'm sure the public would know about the Yeerk threat...maybe just not the extent.

If you don't have feelings for the enemy...or the collateral (us), then it's easier to deal with. Once you start developing feelings that's when things get complicated...

What I kind of meant when I posed the questions, is if the Andalites really were the good guys, and wouldn't have wiped out the Humans to get rid of the Yeerks. If they really were much like Elfangor: Heroes of the Galaxy.

She did something diffeent, though, and had some Andalites be willing to do unethical things. Most people seem to be fine with that, as I think every post in this thread was a resounding "no".

Azguard · « **Reply #24 on:** September 02, 2008, 03:05:10 PM »

It would have been interesting to if they did. You know, all high and mighty...killing off ALL the Yeerks...then treating us as pets...then a Human rebellion to Andalite surveillence...haha .

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Author Topic: Would you have preferred it if the Andalites actually saved Earth? (Read 3886 times)