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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Magdaleen on October 15, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
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Well, let me start this thread by sharing something I've found by some random googling a while ago:
Obviously, this is about the re-release. (http://uklitag.com/site/attach/animorphs_sheet_en.pdf)
[spoiler=If you can't read PDF files(like the one above), open this spoiler to see what it says...]
ANIMORPHS SERIES
By K.A. Applegate
Ages 8-12
ANIMORPHS has sold over 20
million copies worldwide!
The first six books of Animorphs return,
with striking new lenticular covers that
morph!
View the animated GIF of the cover file,
which showcases the amazing lenticulars
featured on each cover!
Scholastic will re-launch the internationally bestselling Animorphs series in
Summer 2011, starting with a six-book arc. In its heyday, the Animorphs series
sold over 20 million copies worldwide and was translated in 26 languages
and was turned into a popular Nickelodeon TV show.
For the re-launch, Scholastic has updated the covers to give them a fresh, modern
look: in keeping with the eye-catching nature of the original covers, the new books
will make use of morphing lenticulars: the characters transform right on the
covers.
An updated look gives the series new vitality for a new generation of readers.
Animorphs is sci-fi at its best: fast-paced, thought-provoking, and a lot of
fun!
Book 1: THE INVASION (May 2011)
The Earth is being invaded, but no one knows about it. When Jake, Rachel, Tobias,
Cassie, and Marco stumble upon a downed alien spaceship and its dying pilot, they're
given an incredible power -- they can transform into any animal they touch. With it,
they become Animorphs, the unlikely champions in a secret war for the planet. And
the enemies they're fighting could be anyone, even the people closest to them. So
begins K.A. Applegate's epic series about five normal kids with a limitless amount of
forms and abilities.
Book 2: THE VISITOR (May 2011)
Rachel is still reeling from the news that the Earth is secretly under attack by
parasitic aliens known as the Yeerks. And that she and her friends -- five kids who,
purely by chance, stumbled onto a downed spacecraft and were given the power to
morph into any animal they touch -- are the planet's only defense. But Rachel's
always been something of a daredevil. So when it's suggested that they infiltrate the
home of their assistant principal, Mr. Chapman, who also happens to be a human
host of the Yeerks, she volunteers. But what she finds inside may be more than even
she can handle.
K. A. Applegate is the author of the bestselling ANIMORPHs
series, as well as the Remnants and Everworld series, Home of
the Brave, and the Roscoe Riley Rules series. She lives in
Minnesota.
She won the Best New Children's Book Series Award in 1997 in
Publishers Weekly.
Pub Plan:
• Animorphs #01: The Invasion - May 2011
• Animorphs #02: The Visitor - May 2011
• Animorphs #03: The Encounter - July 2011
• Animorphs #04: The Message - October 2011
• Animorphs #05: The Predator - January 2012
• Animorphs #06: The Capture - April 2012
ANIMORPHS has sold in 26 languages!
Publishers for all those languages:
Spanish / Spain : EDICIONES B
Spanish / Latin America : EMECÉ
Catalan : EDICIONES B
Portuguese / Portugal : BERTRAND
Portuguese / Brazil : ROCCO
Italian : MONDADORI
French : GALLIMARD JEUNESSE
German : RAVENSBURGER
Dutch : ZUIDNEDERLANDSE
Danish : EGMONT
Norwegian : GYLDENDAL
Swedish : WAHLSTROMS
Finnish : TAMMI
Polish : EGMONT
Czech : SVOJTKA & CO.
Hungarian : EDITIONS PASSAGE
Greek : KEDROS
Turkish : ALTIN KITAPLAR
Hebrew : HED ARZI
Russian : ROSMAN
Japanese : HAYAKAWA SHOBO
Chinese : GOLDEN PEACH PUBLISHING
Korean : GOLDEN BOUGH
Vietnamese : TRE
Thai : AKSARAPIPAT
Bahasa Indonesian : PT GRAMEDIA
Contact:
Aragó, 224-pral-2
080011 Barcelona
Spain
T: +34 93 323 89 70
F: +34 93 451 48 69
office@uklitag.com
http://www.uklitag.com
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What was in the spoiler is all copy-pasted from the file. I didn't remove anything, but the pictures weren't included in the copy-paste, sadly.
[spoiler=But I uploaded the most interesting one, which is the new cover for The Invasion.](http://i52.tinypic.com/10h0nkk.png)[/spoiler]
What are your thoughts about this?
goom says: fixed the link.
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Huh. I wouldn't have considered the first six books an "arc", but I guess they're gonna see what the response is before they commit to more?
I like what I can see of the cover. It's completely different, but still pretty cool.
Edit: I just noticed: the publishing schedule is one volume every THREE months?? How do they expect to release them all with that much time to cover? They'll lose a lot of the new market's interest that way, too. I mean, I could barely wait ONE month!
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I had a problem with the link... is the coding set up like this?:
[url=http://uklitag.com/site/attach/animorphs_sheet_en.pdf] It's about the re-release![/url]
I'm not sure why they picked those six as a 'set', but whatever... That reeks about them only releasing four in '11. Maybe after they see some good sales numbers, they'll speed it up.
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I do like the cover, can't really tell what the animal is, but at least this much is promising so far
good to see, but may is still 7 months away, lets see what happens
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@Josh--Can you not view the image or what?
I'm trying to view the image, but it only goes down halfway. And good grief, so much time in between!
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Edit: I just noticed: the publishing schedule is one volume every THREE months?? How do they expect to release them all with that much time to cover? They'll lose a lot of the new market's interest that way, too. I mean, I could barely wait ONE month!
Considering the first books were published every other month... it's really not that bad.
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@Josh--Can you not view the image or what?
I can see the picture, but the link ( It's about the re-release! (http://uklitag.com/site/attach/animorphs_sheet_en.pdf)) wasn't working for me... I did find the site though.
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@Josh--Can you not view the image or what?
I can see the picture, but the link ( It's about the re-release! (http://uklitag.com/site/attach/animorphs_sheet_en.pdf)) wasn't working for me... I did find the site though.
Oh, yeah, that. Thanks for the right link. ;D
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Heck to the YEAH! I'm glad we finally got some new info on this. Time to go bug my non-Animorphs friends about the franchise again. ;D
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[citation needed]
i don't see their sources for this information. is there any other legitimate sites confirming these facts?
fixed the link as well (i noticed you had "quote" marks)
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new cover? Hmph.
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[citation needed]
i don't see their sources for this information. is there any other legitimate sites confirming these facts?
I don't know about that, but the agency itself seems to be a genuine literary agency, and Scholastic is listed as one of their US clients. I'd like to see AppleGrant confirm it though.
I'm glad that if this is true then they are releasing the first 6 rather than the first 2, even if it is spaced out a bit. I think people are used to waiting longer between books these days (Harry Potter, anyone? Percy Jackson? Hunger Games? The monthly series is dead). The first 6 books encompasses a LOT. We get the intro to the invasion, a narration from all characters except Ax, Ax's intro to the series, and a peak into the world of the Yeerks. I think that's plenty of information to base the success of a more comprehensive re-release on. Although, if I had my way it'd be the first 22 released. :D :D
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new cover? Hmph.
Ditto, it's a real eye sore. I do wonder though, will the pages still morph?
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I like the new cover, it's different but not bad.
And this is good news: 6 over 2 ^^ even if I hoped they'd wait less between the books, but I hope that what Warren's supposed will happen.
I think I'm gonna buy a few of the new volumes... even if I still want to have the old release in English >_< (By the way, my birthday is soon, nobody wanna pay the shipping for me :pwease: lol)
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The new cover looks a lot like Alternamorphs.
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new cover? Hmph.
Ditto, it's a real eye sore. I do wonder though, will the pages still morph?
Same reaction here, but I'm holding final judgment on the thing until I actually see it in my hand. The release is so far away, so the layout could completely change by then. Also, we have no idea how the lenticular "morphing" part of this book looks. In many cases, the actual still image of it never looks good vs the animated one.
That said, there IS supposed to be an animated GIF of this cover in the PDF because it clearly says so next to the cover. Did anyone happen to find it? I can't locate it anywhere!
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new cover? Hmph.
Ditto, it's a real eye sore. I do wonder though, will the pages still morph?
Same reaction here, but I'm holding final judgment on the thing until I actually see it in my hand. The release is so far away, so the layout could completely change by then. Also, we have no idea how the lenticular "morphing" part of this book looks. In many cases, the actual still image of it never looks good vs the animated one.
That said, there IS supposed to be an animated GIF of this cover in the PDF because it clearly says so next to the cover. Did anyone happen to find it? I can't locate it anywhere!
still, have grant/applegate confirmed this anywhere else? i can't find any other sites with this information, so i still feel iffy.
the new cover(s) aren't amazing, but i think they could be decent if they pulled off the lenticular morphing aspect.
also, the next font doesn't do it for me. i hope it gets changed -.-
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I got a tweet about this and thought I'd come by to see what was going on.
Firstly: OMGOMGOMG the release is ACTUALLY happening!!!
Secondly: the cover is kinda meh, but I will reserve judgment as a matter of infinite hope.
I can't wait till next summer (for so many reasons) but this is definitely one of them! I hope it goes well.
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I do like that they're releasing the first six rather than just the first two - I think #3 and #5 are by far the strongest of the first narration round. I just wish they went through the whole first ten, or at least to #8 so Ax gets a shot.
Ah well, at least I'll be able to show my support by buying four hundred copies of #5!
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I'm going to wait to really comment on the covers until I get to see them...
...that said, I'm SO psyched they're re-releasing the first 6! The Capture, man, the first real gut punch of shades of gray...
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Cover is crap. I can't believe someone decided that would be more appealing, (to any generation) than the original. The green scales I actually like, but everything else, no. the square in the center is tacky looking. I would almost rather there be no characters/animals on the cover if that's the route their going with. a more minimalist approach would have been more interesting. at the very least they could have added some damage to edges of the square, kinda like how I did on this mock up cover I did years ago.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/225584878_887cee21cf_z.jpg)
And is the Scholastic logo always dead center these days? it looks ugly as well.
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The new lenticular covers, to me, seem to be catering toward a younger audience, or at least one that's attracted more by shiny things than by content >.<
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(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/225584878_887cee21cf_z.jpg)
You did that? I remember seeing that a while ago and thinking it looked amazing. Anyways, not a fan of the new cover myself, but my opinion might change once I have the physical copy in my hand and can look at it. As I've learned in my GD classes, everything looks different digitally vs. printed.
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Man, this is so exiting! :D I'm on the fence about the new cover though. Like others, I'll have to wait and see how it looks on a hard copy.
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Ditto, it's a real eye sore. I do wonder though, will the pages still morph?
It just seems lazy. Great, a square sized photo of someone morphing above the title. Real inventive.
I hope they still morph! It was a bit tacky and there were only about four different stages of the morph, but I still loved it as a kid ;D
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Now I've checked a little more the cover, something I don't like is the new logo "Animorphs". I preferred the old one.
(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00277632/the-animorphs-1.jpg)
worked so well, why did they change it?!!!
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Not to mention it's the font tattooed on my ankle! :P
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And on my wrist!!
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Now I've checked a little more the cover, something I don't like is the new logo "Animorphs". I preferred the old one.
(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00277632/the-animorphs-1.jpg)
worked so well, why did they change it?!!!
Umm, that was the TV show's logo. This was the original logo.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061105102546/animorphs/images/thumb/e/ea/Logo.gif/300px-Logo.gif)
But I agree, either one of those are better than the latest revision.
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the new font won't match my tattoo!
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I just noticed: the publishing schedule is one volume every THREE months?? How do they expect to release them all with that much time to cover? They'll lose a lot of the new market's interest that way, too. I mean, I could barely wait ONE month!
Maybe they won't rerelease some of the crappier ones? ~hopeful~
Haha. Anyway. I don't like the fonts on the new cover but otherwise it's not terrible...though ideally I would love to see something more like the cover of MM#4.
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Yeah, they could cut the oatmeal episode--that would really move things along.
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the new font won't match my tattoo!
That's okay! It'll forever identify you as a lover of CLASSIC Animorphs!
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Yeah, they could cut the oatmeal episode--that would really move things along.
Hey! Don't rag on OatMeal! That book was amazing. Would you really deprive the world of the only great battle involving oatmeal?!
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Yeah, they could cut the oatmeal episode--that would really move things along.
But I loved the oatmeal! And I know that most people hated it, but I also 'liked' the Buffalo-human one. ( I don't like the Atlantis one though... what the heck?)
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Yeah, they could cut the oatmeal episode--that would really move things along.
But I loved the oatmeal! And I know that most people hated it, but I also 'liked' the Buffalo-human one. ( I don't like the Atlantis one though... what the heck?)
You know, I liked them all till I started hanging around the fandom. :P
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I love the oatmeal one. It's really awesome from a dark humor standpoint - yes, it's oatmeal, but Marco and Rachel are pretty much arguing that Rule of Funny justifies chemical warfare. I mean, really.
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Haha. Anyway. I don't like the fonts on the new cover but otherwise it's not terrible...though ideally I would love to see something more like the cover of MM#4.
I agree. I loved the whole feel to the cover of MM#4. It gave the books seriousness or something that none of the others had.
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yeah, as i said before, they really should have stuck with the old font. :P
the covers are hopefully a WIP; i really don't think they look right, yet. with all the modern technology, you'd think they could do better than the gimmicky tilt-effect. i won't fully judge it until i see it myself, but i'm disappointed.
megamorphs four should be the new standard. i really hope they don't ruin that cover during megamorphs 4 2.0
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Now I've checked a little more the cover, something I don't like is the new logo "Animorphs". I preferred the old one.
(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00277632/the-animorphs-1.jpg)
worked so well, why did they change it?!!!
Umm, that was the TV show's logo. This was the original logo.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061105102546/animorphs/images/thumb/e/ea/Logo.gif/300px-Logo.gif)
But I agree, either one of those are better than the latest revision.
Yeah but I couldn't find the pic of the logo of the books... Thanks ;)
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I don't like the fact that they took out the taglines on the cover.
Like
"Some people never change... Some do."
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I don't like the fact that they took out the taglines on the cover.
Like
"Some people never change... Some do."
J*Gasps* I didn't notice that! How dare they?!?
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Is this release the same word for word or is it modified somewhat?... :-\
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Is this release the same word for word or is it modified somewhat?... :-\
Everything will be the same, aside from maybe a few outdated references (TV shows, video games, etc), and those changes have been directly approved by K.A. Applegate. The outcome for the story and characters will not change.
Also, The first 2 books are also now available to pre-order on Amazon. http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=867
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$6.99? Ugh. I guess they have to make money somehow
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$6.99? Ugh. I guess they have to make money somehow
That's like dirt-cheap though, even if the books are on the light side.
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That's like dirt-cheap though, even if the books are on the light side.
Yeah. And, inflation anyone?
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Actually, given inflation, if we consider the books to cost $4.99, we're getting a nice seven-cent discount.
Of course, if we consider the books to cost $3.99, we get shafted. ;)
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Woh! Expensive... if all of them are this price and they re-edit all the series... 64 x 7 = $448 :o
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Given inflation it's relatively as much as the last half of the series cost the first time around. Don't know about considering exchange rates, though.
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You know, I liked them all till I started hanging around the fandom. :P
I think this sums up everything pretty well
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I don't like the fact that they took out the taglines on the cover.
Like
"Some people never change... Some do."
J*Gasps* I didn't notice that! How dare they?!?
*gasps* How can they do that?! They're some of the best parts! My favorite one was "This is your mind without a Yeerk. This is your mind with one. Any questions?" or something like that.
Yeah, they could cut the oatmeal episode--that would really move things along.
But I loved the oatmeal! And I know that most people hated it, but I also 'liked' the Buffalo-human one. ( I don't like the Atlantis one though... what the heck?)
I do too! How often do we have wars with oatmeal? And I loved the buffahuman too.
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The oatmeal book is so fun and action-packed, why would anyone want to get rid of it? AND the book adds in Gleet Biofilters for all Yeerk Pool Entrances!
BTW, found out some major new things today. We even get a look at the new Jake model! Check it out: http://bit.ly/cDWkQj
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BTW, found out some major new things today. We even get a look at the new Jake model! Check it out: http://bit.ly/cDWkQj
Perfeck :)
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Jake-model needs to rinse his hair, but other than that he looks fine. Can't wait to watch this webcast.
#17 may be my favorite of the silly filler books.
IN-THEATRE ADVERTISING??? Oh my God.
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I'm not really liking the new cover. I think they shoulda stuck with the morphing thing but with new models. Oh well, I'm still excited for the re-release
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I lqtm'd at the "Gripping and Edgy" tagline being in that cute rounded font and bright colors...
The "outreach to fan sites" part of Scholastic's marketing sounds exciting!
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Scholastic will re-launch the internationally bestselling Animorphs series in
Summer 2011, starting with a six-book arc. In its heyday, the Animorphs series
sold over 20 million copies worldwide and was translated in 26 languages
and was turned into a popular Nickelodeon TV show.
QUE!?
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It was so popular it only lasted 1 and a bit seasons. :P
...Unless by "popular" they mean "people still talk about how awful it was."
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Scholastic will re-launch the internationally bestselling Animorphs series in
Summer 2011, starting with a six-book arc. In its heyday, the Animorphs series
sold over 20 million copies worldwide and was translated in 26 languages
and was turned into a popular Nickelodeon TV show.
QUE!?
HAH! I love the marketing spin. Hopefully there'll be no repeats of the tv show! :p
"Heyday"? Christ, we're old!
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If they don't completely screw it over like the first time, I wouldn't mind a redone TV show. Unless you mean reruns of the old show. That would just be :/
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It would be like watching reruns of nineties gameshows. Criiinge :)
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Believe it or not, I have met quite a few people IRL that liked the show (but have never read the books).
That said,... no. NO. They should in no way bring that show back, lol. Especially if they're putting all this money and effort into rebranding the franchise. It'd be like flushing millions down the toilet.
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$6.99? Ugh. I guess they have to make money somehow
hey, they're making money just by re-releasing them.
i still think 5.99 sounds a lot more reasonable, especially considering how many books there are to sell.
$420 for 60 books, not taking account of the pricier specials.
if they do a show, i really hope they don't introduce it until the first 20 books or so are out.
or, godforbid, before the book series starts! :(
the show ruins it for new-time readers. if i had seen that first i would have never started the series.
although they do need to finish that opening song. the one good part of the series. >_<
just watch them make an animorphs anime. :akanbe:
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the show ruins it for new-time readers. if i had seen that first i would have never started the series.
Hey, watching the show is the reason I'm a fan. :P
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the show ruins it for new-time readers. if i had seen that first i would have never started the series.
Hey, watching the show is the reason I'm a fan. :P
to each his own, i guess. it always saddened me when:
me: *mentions animorphs*
them: oh yeah, that nick show!
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I don't like it now. ::) But considering people came to the fandom because they watched it... you can't completely knock it.
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i suppose that it wouldn't seem as bad if i hadn't ever read the books.
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:P Trust me. It got worse with each book I read.
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lol see i didnt have a choice but to watch the show cuz back when I got into Animorphs, I was too young to read the books but knew they were better than the show
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I loved the show. It was because the show I got into the books. See, I was at my cousin's house waiting for it to premiere, because the teasers were interesting, then my cousin pointed out it was based on a book series, which he let me take a look at. I recognized the cover from the book sale we had going on at my school, but never knew what it was about. I read the first 4 chapters er so, then watched the first episode on Nick. I was hooked on both. Yes they had their obvious differences but I didn't care. I had faces and voices to put to the characters, made it easier for me to picture in my head. I borrowed a new book up every other week until I went over the number where my School library's selection stopped and had to start buying my own. I went ahead and joined the Animorphs book club. I hate reading but made an exception for these. I preferred watching the show, as Im more of a visual person, but the books gave me my fix for the rest of the week and any hiatuses the show took. (which, which Nick's spotty schedule it became more and more uncertain when the next ep would be shown) I know the books are better, but the show was cool in its own right. I know it was done on a budget but I didn't care. it was the actors and morphing effects that made it work for me. They did the best they could with the budget they had, and as a kid (and even now to an extent) I was pretty forgiving of the compromises they had to make.
I technically started reading the books before I saw the first episode on Nick, but I wouldnt have even given it a change if the show hadn't happened. it would have been just another book with an interesting cover I sometimes see at the library. Getting me to read a book (at any point in my life) was an accomplishment.
I would love for them to bring back the show in sorm form. idealy through DVD, but I'd settle for re aring too. The only versions we have are captured from old VHS tapes which have really degraded in quality. Especially the final eps which are nearly unwatchable. (and before someone beats me to the punchline, no its not because of the shows overall quality)
Also, I really want a nice clean high quality version fof the shows theme song. even people who hated the show have to give it props for that. heh
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oh, forgot to mention, i miss the old jake.
i really hope they can pull off the other characters. maybe tobias will finally be blonde again!
Online advertising linking to special content on Animorphs website www.scholastic.com/animorphs update, including:
* Games & Video
* Summer camp sampling
* Outreach to Animorphs fan sites
thanks again, truth! yay for HiDe!
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What's the 'summer camp sampling' about? I hope it's not meaning they're gonna start a camp and call it 'The Sharing'...cuz I'm not joining! *runs for the hills*
...In-theater advertising? Oh...my...I am in shock. o_o We never even had TV advertisements for them back in the day did we? YES! I think Scholastic has a lot of confidence in this brand, let's hope they're not let down.
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Think about this: If they remake a TVshow, it can't be as bad as the old one! Nothing can be so bad! lol
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What's the 'summer camp sampling' about? I hope it's not meaning they're gonna start a camp and call it 'The Sharing'...cuz I'm not joining! *runs for the hills*
That's just paranoid... at least until a certain Mr. Visser shows up. THEN run for the hills.
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Think about this: If they remake a TVshow, it can't be as bad as the old one! Nothing can be so bad! lol
If you stopped thinking of it as a direct adaptation and just a series based on the books you might actually enjoy the show. It wasn't bad show just because their dracon beams were flashlights or that they switched Cassie for Rachel having the morph allergy. Liberties have to be taken to make adaptations work in general. if they did a new one today, the effects would/could be better, butI bet they would get younger kids to play, which is fine for accuracy's sake, but harder to find decent actors.
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Think about this: If they remake a TVshow, it can't be as bad as the old one! Nothing can be so bad! lol
If you stopped thinking of it as a direct adaptation and just a series based on the books you might actually enjoy the show. It wasn't bad show just because their dracon beams were flashlights or that they switched Cassie for Rachel having the morph allergy. Liberties have to be taken to make adaptations work in general. if they did a new one today, the effects would/could be better, butI bet they would get younger kids to play, which is fine for accuracy's sake, but harder to find decent actors.
Oh, don't worry, I enjoy the show for what it is: a parody :P
No, really, I like to watch it sometimes, for fun ^^
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Think about this: If they remake a TVshow, it can't be as bad as the old one! Nothing can be so bad! lol
If you stopped thinking of it as a direct adaptation and just a series based on the books you might actually enjoy the show. It wasn't bad show just because their dracon beams were flashlights or that they switched Cassie for Rachel having the morph allergy. Liberties have to be taken to make adaptations work in general. if they did a new one today, the effects would/could be better, butI bet they would get younger kids to play, which is fine for accuracy's sake, but harder to find decent actors.
Yeah but the thing is. It wasn't even that good of a show IMO. It's like how people say if you don't think about the show and focus on the movie, you'll enjoy the Last Airbender. I saw that movie, completely forgetting I'm like the shows number one fan and it was still a crappy movie. Most adaptations to TV shows/books are often not only bad adaptions but bad shows/movies as well. The only acception I can think of off the top of my head are the Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and Narnia movies
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Think about this: If they remake a TVshow, it can't be as bad as the old one! Nothing can be so bad! lol
If you stopped thinking of it as a direct adaptation and just a series based on the books you might actually enjoy the show. It wasn't bad show just because their dracon beams were flashlights or that they switched Cassie for Rachel having the morph allergy. Liberties have to be taken to make adaptations work in general. if they did a new one today, the effects would/could be better, butI bet they would get younger kids to play, which is fine for accuracy's sake, but harder to find decent actors.
Yeah but the thing is. It wasn't even that good of a show IMO. It's like how people say if you don't think about the show and focus on the movie, you'll enjoy the Last Airbender. I saw that movie, completely forgetting I'm like the shows number one fan and it was still a crappy movie. Most adaptations to TV shows/books are often not only bad adaptions but bad shows/movies as well. The only acception I can think of off the top of my head are the Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and Narnia movies
Hmmm Not sure we understand each other. I think the TVshow Animorphs is a bad adaptation AND a bad TVshow. But I like to watch it sometimes 'coz it's like a parody (even if the best parody ever is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doakRnUa4PQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doakRnUa4PQ)). Really... even fans with $20 could make a better TVshow :P
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no. THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmwM_AKeMCk) is the best parody ever
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Ok, so what are the show's flaws in general, if the books are no longer part of the equation? Is it just the production values for you? because considering what else was on Nickelodeon at the time, almost entirely comedies and cartoons, a show about an alien invasion with a more dramatic tone was a welcome edition to the line up if you ask me.
Sorry if I'm treading a bit too off topic here, I'm just really curious.
And just because you find an adaptation a laughable effort doesn't make it a parody. A parody pokes fun the ridiculousness of the original concept and characters.
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no. THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmwM_AKeMCk) is the best parody ever
I meant "the best parody of Animorphs"... And I'm sure I know better parodies than Harry Potter the musical :P
@Kyle: I know it isn't a true parody, but like Twilight, they did it without meant it ;) (Hey, you know, I use humor very often... don't take everything I say at word...)
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Ok, so what are the show's flaws in general, if the books are no longer part of the equation? Is it just the production values for you? because considering what else was on Nickelodeon at the time, almost entirely comedies and cartoons, a show about an alien invasion with a more dramatic tone was a welcome edition to the line up if you ask me.
I actually don't think a show like Animorphs would have ever fit in with what Nick had at that time. That was ONE of my things with it. It just never really fit in well with the other shows on Nick. If it was on now, it'd probably be a bit more welcome but still a crappy show. IDK I just didn't like it. I thought it was corny(which is saying something when you think about other shows that were on Nick at the time) I wish they had used the Battle morphs more often(I know they probably couldn't have cuz of budgets and stuff but still) I hated that little subplot with the disk, I mean if all Tobias had to do was touch the disk and gain his morphing powers back then that pretty much took away the whole danger revolving around their two hour limit. I could spend a while talking about that accursed show but this isn't the thread for that
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I mean if all Tobias had to do was touch the disk and gain his morphing powers back then that pretty much took away the whole danger revolving around their two hour limit.
Wait, what? This happened? REALLY?
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Yeah, he flew out the window with the disk in his talons, then he like had some type of weird...bird...seiz ure...and morphed back to his human form, followed by a holographic elfangor coming out of the disk and telling him what just happened
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Not fitting in was what I thought was cool about it initially. Variety in programing is a good thing for any network/cable channel to have. I loved that I had a show on Nick that took itself seriously for once. I'll give you the disk thing but everything else gets a pass from me when taking budget into consideration. I don't believe someone with 20 bucks could do better, like Dameg suggested. I'm sure he was exaggerating to make a point, but even with a few hundred dollars that just isn't true at all. If that were the case we'd have tons of fantastic fanfilms by now, but in reality the few we do have suffer the same budget problems Nick faced but to an even greater degree. I know we can all agree that you can't do justice to the books without a high budget, but all things considered I think they made the best of what they had.
but I know this isn't the topic for this. carry on.
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There are several threads that do discuss the television show, if you want to move the discussion there. :)
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Ok, so what are the show's flaws in general, if the books are no longer part of the equation? Is it just the production values for you? because considering what else was on Nickelodeon at the time, almost entirely comedies and cartoons, a show about an alien invasion with a more dramatic tone was a welcome edition to the line up if you ask me.
it wasn't a parody, obviously, but it was laughable at times.
i liked the opening song, but that was where it ended.
my main issue was how much the show differed from the books: the alien models were low-budget, morphing took like three seconds (rarely shown outside of just shadows), and none of the characters felt right. i felt as if the creators hadn't even bothered reading the books, when they should have gotten more involved (like some fan-projects i''ve seen).
honestly, i never even bothered to finish the whole thing. it was far too painful to watch. >_<
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We're getting off topic. I suggest merging to a previous thread or starting new.
And FYI, the Scholastic webcast is now up to watch: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1065
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You have to register first? meh.
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We're getting off topic. I suggest merging to a previous thread or starting new.
And FYI, the Scholastic webcast is now up to watch: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1065
haha, we were just waiting until the video got put up.
appreciated!
You have to register first? meh.
If you have already registered, please enter your email address to access the event.
technically we'd need only one email associated with this to view it, right?
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give 'em a fake email address. *hopes no one from Scholastic hears that*
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alright, watching it now. used my own :P
i'll try and get the vid for you if you want, truth.
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"Outreach to Animorphs fan sites"?! SWEET.
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Registering doesn't take long at all. All you do is give your name and email, and then confirm your address via your inbox. It takes less than a minute to do that.
But if you guys are gonna whine about it... :yawn:
alright, watching it now. used my own :P
i'll try and get the vid for you if you want, truth.
I haven't checked out all the possibilities to copy it yet (since I've been so busy), but if you're able to do it, then I'd really appreciate it! :D
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to tell you the truth i lied the animorphs 1.0 better... actually way better. i don't like the look of that cover and those things that change as you move them are just annoying because you'll have to look at it at an odd angle to see either jake or the lizard. just my opinion but i'm annoyed that i can't still read the originals. i just got up to a book i really want to read and now i have to wait about a year unless they release them quicker.
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alright, watching it now. used my own :P
i'll try and get the vid for you if you want, truth.
Nah, don't worry about it, I got it covered.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrN8GIN0Mw[/youtube]
Quick note, the stuff at the beginning was not meant to be part of the video, that was just me having a bit of fun, I wanted to quickly show those two things: the new cover and the other image showing the difference morph stages.
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Kyle, you are my new hero! Thank you so much! I've updated the blog post (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1065), Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/hiracdelest), etc and given you proper credit for it!
And I actually like the effects you did in the beginning! Very professional looking :D
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Kyle, you are my new hero! Thank you so much! I've updated the blog post (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1065), Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/hiracdelest), etc and given you proper credit for it!
And I actually like the effects you did in the beginning! Very professional looking :D
crap, i did earlier and was going to send it to ya.
oh well. >_<
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Kyle, you are my new hero! Thank you so much! I've updated the blog post (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1065), Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/hiracdelest), etc and given you proper credit for it!
And I actually like the effects you did in the beginning! Very professional looking :D
crap, i did earlier and was going to send it to ya.
oh well. >_<
+1 and 'A' for effort! I appreciate it! (You can still email it to me if you want) :D
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naw, its all right.
thanks for the karma though.
it took me a while to figure out how to capture the thing; they streamed it differently than most online vids.
nice job, kyle! i really like it.
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Thanks guys. No problem really. I actually don't know how to grab flash video from most sites. I just used screen capture software for this. Camtasia studio if anyone's curious.
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Thanks guys. No problem really. I actually don't know how to grab flash video from most sites. I just used screen capture software for this. Camtasia studio if anyone's curious.
oh, i directly streamed it (unnecessary for something like this) using some program.
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Thanks guys. No problem really. I actually don't know how to grab flash video from most sites. I just used screen capture software for this. Camtasia studio if anyone's curious.
That's good to know for future reference. Thank you. :)
(I've used CamStudio in the past, and it works pretty well too, in case anyone wants to know. :P)
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The old cover is much better than the new one.
Every bit of it (logo, layout, lack of quotes etc.) looks ugly.
They'd better change it before the final relese.
If the e-books ever appear on this forum again, please use the old covers.
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The new cover being ugly might just be because of the lizard. And because mid-morphs always look kinda gross.
I've analyzed the cover, i.e. what and how the cover elements will change by each book.
(http://i22.servimg.com/u/f22/14/52/76/75/new_co10.png)
And I wonder how the rest of the new models will look like...
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My opinion on the new cover:
They are trying way too hard to make it look "technological" and also "extraterrestrial." The luminescent green... the digitized fonts... the reptilian skin print in the background. They'd do better to simplify, and not lean too heavy on the cliched alien esthetic. After all, one of the strong points of the series is the diversity of "alien" material/perspectives presented - we don't just get Area 51, little green men kind of stuff.
They do the writing a disservice by representing it in such a cliched way. As a kid, I would be thinking "not another book about aliens... same old, same old."
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My opinion on the new cover:
They are trying way too hard to make it look "technological" and also "extraterrestrial." The luminescent green... the digitized fonts... the reptilian skin print in the background.
That's just for the first book, because Jake is morphing a lizard.
On book #2 it will most likely look pretty different, since Rachel is morphing a cat.
Picture the same kind of cover, but with cat fur texture in the background and brownish shades instead of green shades. And Rachel morphing a cat instead of Jake morphing a lizard.
That would look much more innocent and less alien-ish, don't you think?
And book 1 and 2 will get released at the same time, so...
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Yeah... you're right! Cat hair would soften it up quite a bit. It is unforutnate that the first one is going to look stereotypically alien, but I can see that it won't carry over to the others. :)
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Yeah... you're right! Cat hair would soften it up quite a bit. It is unforutnate that the first one is going to look stereotypically alien, but I can see that it won't carry over to the others. :)
what about the alligator crocodile book? :-\
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Lol, don't blame animals for looking like what we imagine aliens to look like. We humans just apply what we know about animals and apply them to aliens anyway. A crock themed cover would have crock scales.
But I don't think any of my criticisms are things that will be book dependent. the lenticular square looking like too much of an afterthought, the new logo font, removal of the quote tags, the Scholastic logo dead center, If these things don't change I'll still hate them. Ive mentioned before the scales are the one thing I don't mind. What they need to do is find a way to integrate the lenticular square into the cover art more. instead of being a pefect square have parts of it obscured by the background, as if your peeking in from a hole in the animal pattern. Im not a a fan of the lenticular thing anyway. its fine for maybe the inside art, or even the back, but the front? it just feels too gimmicky. Still if it must be used I think they could work with it more so it feels like its a part of the cover.
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Okay, what about the books where they're morphing human??? Would it be skin, or clothing? Random question...
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that's what i was wondering too, actually.
i really wish they'd let us see a preview of jake and the lizard alone (instead of just the mid-morph)
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alright, watching it now. used my own :P
i'll try and get the vid for you if you want, truth.
Nah, don't worry about it, I got it covered.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrN8GIN0Mw[/youtube]
Quick note, the stuff at the beginning was not meant to be part of the video, that was just me having a bit of fun, I wanted to quickly show those two things: the new cover and the other image showing the difference morph stages.
@Goom: You can see both Jake and the lizard for a second or two in the video here.
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wow, i like the lizard even less now.
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2pzjwgp.jpg)
it doesn't look much like a green anole. too fat.
[spoiler=real anole](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Anolis_carolinensis.jpg/800px-Anolis_carolinensis.jpg)[/spoiler]
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Y'know, I've been trying to not be judgemental, but I've decided that I really don't like their marketing plans.... I bet these people never even read them.
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Let us not forget that the covers weren't so awesome the first time around, either.
I mean, come on, how many times are the kids wearing polo shirts tucked into high-waisted pants?
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Oh! *sudden idea* Maybe the front cover is just Jake's face, since it was just his face in the original, too. Maybe the other books will be more of the persons body morphing, rather than just a head. That would make things better...
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(...) What they need to do is find a way to integrate the lenticular square into the cover art more. instead of being a pefect square have parts of it obscured by the background, as if your peeking in from a hole in the animal pattern.
Agreed completely. I think it would be better if the entire cover was a lenticular cover rather than just the small piece of the square that we see. If they can do this with DVD covers, they why not for the entire book cover? My biggest concern right now though is that the square simply isn't just glued on there in a cheap sort of way (anything that might make it peel off), and is actually embedded in there. (It'd be like a new version of all those ripped morphing holes in the front covers from the previous books. :P)
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Oh! *sudden idea* Maybe the front cover is just Jake's face, since it was just his face in the original, too. Maybe the other books will be more of the persons body morphing, rather than just a head. That would make things better...
That probably had more to do with the fact that the first couple books were done by a different artist.
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new cover? Hmph.
no
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Did a little sleuthing on my part. Found the cover for Animorphs #2:
http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1238
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Yay, thank you for sleuthing, Essam!
But, uh, wow. That is probably fuglier than the first. Geeez.
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oh dear lord... :eyecover:
nice find, though.
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banned for starting a post that was only for banning people
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...Erm... wrong topic t0bias...
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Thanks for finding it, Essam! :)
It seems like I was kinda right about that cover analysis I did a while ago, though I didn't expect number 2 to look that high-techy...
[spoiler=Covers revealed so far](http://www.hiracdelest.com/images/blog/AM-RE-01-WIP.jpg)(http://www.hiracdelest.com/images/blog/am2-cover-crop.jpg)
Too lazy to resize the first one... ::)[/spoiler]
I'd like to see how the new Rachel model looks like in non mid-morph. And the rest of the models. Let's hope Tobias' model is blond this time(or at least dirty-blond)...
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Essam, bro, you rock :thumbsup:
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Hmm...overall I'm with everyone else and prefer the original covers more, but I do like this second cover more than the first one for this re-release.
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Quote from Hirac Delest Update:
Animorphs #03: The Encounter – July 2011
Animorphs #04: The Message – October 2011
Animorphs #05: The Predator – January 2012
Animorphs #06: The Capture – April 2012
Taking their sweet time aren't they?
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Quote from Hirac Delest Update:
Animorphs #03: The Encounter – July 2011
Animorphs #04: The Message – October 2011
Animorphs #05: The Predator – January 2012
Animorphs #06: The Capture – April 2012
Taking their sweet time aren't they?
It seems so. ::)
Apparently, "the monthly series is dead."
Maybe, if it gets enough demand from the new fans(which hopefully will be quite a lot), they'll start releasing the rest more frequently?
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Did a little sleuthing on my part. Found the cover for Animorphs #2:
http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1238
I see they changed the lizzard. its nose is more enlongated, more lizzard like now. As for book 2's cover, its about what I expected, but it seems their going more abstract than I thought. I have the same complaints about this as the other one. ideas are fine, but executed poorly.
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...Erm... wrong topic t0bias...
banned for telling me that it's the wrong topic... i topic what i want to and no one's going to tell me other wise!
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...Erm... wrong topic t0bias...
banned for telling me that it's the wrong topic... i topic what i want to and no one's going to tell me other wise!
*sigh*
keep it in the other thread, please.
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alright then......
but i still topic what i want when i want.
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No... not really.
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i could prove it...
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:facepalm:
SO, about the new books....
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How likely do you guys think it is that Wal-Mart will carry these?
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I'd say very likely. There really isn't anything in them that would trip Wal-Mart's Morality Sensors.
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That's what I was thinking but I couldn't be sure since it's been a while.
I'm just hoping that my Wal-Mart carries them, since I'm out in the boonies.
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Got another update for you fine folks.
New covers alterations from Amazon: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1304
EDIT: Just did a quick follow up to the most recent post. These are the new covers, unless Scholastic changes them again.
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I'm liking the new #1 cover, it'd be nice if we see different angles for the morphs instead of the same-old side view that it was at first. As for number 2, you're right, the background is more fitting.
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The new cover will attract attention,i think right now I'm about the age the books are for,and the new cover will attract my attention but I do like the old ones better(mostly the logo) I can't believe they are only re releasing the first six,I really want #19
I'm trying to convince everyone to buy the books,and get them to re release the rest
Some people are totally against animorphs and they never even read them...
Tsk tsk
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Yeah, the thing about animorphs is the covers and the premise make it sound babyish, but its better than it sounds!!
I'm kinda annoyed at how slowly they are re releasing them. I hope they go to one a month pretty freaking soon, or maybe even more often than that.
I doubt they will ever end up in UK bookstores, but if they do, I am BUYING them! I donated my old ones to charity because I was moving and because I wanted to make new ani fans.
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as i said a few posts ago, i definitely wouldn't have bought them initially if the covers looked anything like these.
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To be honest, I will just love that they will be all new and never opened. Animorphs books in that kind of condition are rare.
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Yeah, the thing about animorphs is the covers and the premise make it sound babyish, but its better than it sounds!!
This is part of what annoys me about the new covers; in my opinion they look childish. (Moreso than the old ones ^^) I started reading the series in 4th grade and I'm pretty sure I would have been embarrassed to be seen carrying these covers around.
Check out this fan-made cover somebody posted on deviantart: http://crystallineessence.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1fx6b1 (http://crystallineessence.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1fx6b1)
Wouldn't it be great if they could publish something like THAT?
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Remember the old saying guys - never judge a book by it's cover. ;)
...Not that I don't do that all the time when looking for something to read myself though. *coughs*
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Yeah, the thing about animorphs is the covers and the premise make it sound babyish, but its better than it sounds!!
This is part of what annoys me about the new covers; in my opinion they look childish. (Moreso than the old ones ^^) I started reading the series in 4th grade and I'm pretty sure I would have been embarrassed to be seen carrying these covers around.
Check out this fan-made cover somebody posted on deviantart: http://crystallineessence.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1fx6b1 (http://crystallineessence.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1fx6b1)
Wouldn't it be great if they could publish something like THAT?
Yes. Yes it would. Darn it, now I do hate the new covers. I was kinda okay about them, but not now.
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Eh. Honestly that fan-made cover looks like Twilight or Pretties to me. Too teen-girl supernatural romance lit. At least these new covers look like they're full of aliens and technology.
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Eh. Honestly that fan-made cover looks like Twilight or Pretties to me. Too teen-girl supernatural romance lit. At least these new covers look like they're full of aliens and technology.
Thank you. XD This is what I was thinking. Honestly, that fan cover doesn't reflect... anything in the books. O.o
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I think it should be more animal-esque (is that the right term?), or more obvious that she's becoming an animal. That specific one does look that way, yeah, but think about a cover with Jake becoming a tiger or Cassie halfway to wolf? With a single image like that, you could afford to make it a really good halfway shot, rather than the what-the-heck-is-that pictures that happen before and after on the old and new covers. Rather than showing the transition, it's a still that shows them only partway through morph. That could be really cool and really freaky at the same time, which I think would/could do the series justice more than the covers they're going with.
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Wow, I didn't think it was possible, but they were able to make them even worse. Good job Scholastic. KA must be rolling in her grave. you know, since she committed suicide upon viewing these. ;)
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Some people are totally against animorphs and they never even read them...
Tsk tsk
Why are them so much against Animorphs?!
Yeah, the thing about animorphs is the covers and the premise make it sound babyish, but its better than it sounds!!
This is part of what annoys me about the new covers; in my opinion they look childish. (Moreso than the old ones ^^) I started reading the series in 4th grade and I'm pretty sure I would have been embarrassed to be seen carrying these covers around.
Check out this fan-made cover somebody posted on deviantart: http://crystallineessence.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1fx6b1 (http://crystallineessence.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1fx6b1)
Wouldn't it be great if they could publish something like THAT?
I like it, but it's true, it needs to be more animal-esque... and maybe with more emotion and technology... but it's a good idea.
The old covers already look childish, at least in French... ^^' but well... so many adults read Harry Potter and things like that now, that it isn't so much a problem.
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Excited for the re-release. The covers...I am not a fan of the side-side morphing thing; looks plain old tacky to me. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer the old look of the books--in fact, my only problem with the designs were the choices of animals they were morphing. I think they chose way too many "woodsy" morphs for the books, which sort of makes the series look "childish" to those kids who "judge books by their covers."
Not gonna lie. I would TOTALLY buy the fan-made cover. I like the look of the girl, and think they could make the other Animorphs look just as good. Personally, I don't care if it doesn't show the sci-fi aspects. When I first saw a cover for the Animorphs, I thought fantasy, not sci-fi. I've been waiting around for a cover for the Encounter (new one that is). I've never been much of a fan for Marco and Cassie, but Tobias is like the "deal-breaker" for me. Screw that up...well, you won't lose a customer, because I'm really psyched for reading the Animorphs again. But you'll get an embarrased customer; who either has the book delivered to him, or hides the book in a couple of bags.
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Scholastic just made a press release for the Animorphs relaunch, and also revealed the morphing animation for the first book cover!
Full news: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1328
(BTW, can one of the mods change the title of this thread so that it better reflects the content? "Animorphs Relaunch Covers & Updates", or something similar?)
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Ha! Something tells me that they changed the last few books to 2011 because of all the RIFF-RAFers on the forums :P See, fanboys anf fangirls can make a difference.
Why is the Jake cover model blonde!? Do we REALLY neeed more blondes in this series?
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Umm... that's the schedule it's been. O.o
And he didn't look blonde to me. O.o
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^ No, at least two of the books were scheduled for 2012.
And maybe I'm just colour blind, but to me, he looked blonde.
Check the link, it even says NEW schedule. And it was seemingly posted today.
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The "last two books" should be #5 and #6. #6 will still have to come out in 2012. It's not that big a difference. ::)
And I really doubt we had anything to do with that.
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Ah well. It would be nice if we actually did make a difference, though.
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Umm... that's the schedule it's been. O.o
The previous schedule had #4 in October, and #5 in January. So they have been bumped up to be released a month earlier, which will have the first 5 Animorphs released in 2011 now. I'm guessing the 6th book will be bumped from April to February in 2012 if they are releasing them every other month.
Check the link, it even says NEW schedule. And it was seemingly posted today.
Yes, the new schedule posted is coming from today's press release, and is currently the official one to go with.
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Okay... but they're not releasing them every other month. Just the first few. There are 3 months between #4 and #5.
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Scholastic just made a press release for the Animorphs relaunch, and also revealed the morphing animation for the first book cover!
Full news: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1328
(BTW, can one of the mods change the title of this thread so that it better reflects the content? "Animorphs Relaunch Covers & Updates", or something similar?)
I know I'm not a mod, but I made the thread. So, sure I will. I was actually thinking of changing the title, so thanks for reminding me. :)
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Wow, I didn't think it was possible, but they were able to make them even worse. Good job Scholastic. KA must be rolling in her grave. you know, since she committed suicide upon viewing these. ;)
i'm sure she must be... i would be too but i only saw the first one which is only a nerly lethel dose thankfully
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I don't think these books are worthy of that. They're pretty bad, but not as bad as--let's say-- the ending to book 54.
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Okay... but they're not releasing them every other month. Just the first few. There are 3 months between #4 and #5.
You're right, sorry. I didn't notice it for the last one. I hope they do eventually move it to at least every other month though, if not every month.
I know I'm not a mod, but I made the thread. So, sure I will. I was actually thinking of changing the title, so thanks for reminding me. :)
Thank you. Much appreciated. :)
Also: The official animorphs.com (http://www.animorphs.com) is now updated with a new banner (though with the first version of the lenticular covers). Check it out :)
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I don't think these books are worthy of that. They're pretty bad, but not as bad as--let's say-- the ending to book 54.
oh they are that bad... as far as i'm concerened it was hard enough getting the animorphs books but now with the rerealeses it's going to get doubley as bad getting some real animorphs books. they really messed up with these rerealeases
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David mattingly's morphs were a lot better if you ask me.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/gmcube/morph.gif)
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David mattingly's morphs were a lot better if you ask me.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/gmcube/morph.gif)
Where did that GIF come from? Besides the obvious Photobucket URL, I mean.
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Go back a page. I just converted the flash animation into a gif.
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See, he's blonde!
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No, he's not. O.o His hair is very brown.
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It's light brown/dirty blonde/whatever whatever.
His face is good for Jake, IMO. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the covers, but I don't have any complaints about the model so far.
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(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3212/invasionframe1.jpg)
I also made a frame by frame slide for the morphing process:
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9057/fullmorphthumb.jpg)
Full post and larger version at: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1393
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Wow, I didn't think it was possible, but they were able to make them even worse. Good job Scholastic. KA must be rolling in her grave. you know, since she committed suicide upon viewing these. ;)
my thoughts exactly.
thanks for the pics, truth.
does that guy look jake-ish to anybody? it doesn't seem quite right to me.
Scholastic just made a press release for the Animorphs relaunch, and also revealed the morphing animation for the first book cover!
Full news: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1328
(BTW, can one of the mods change the title of this thread so that it better reflects the content? "Animorphs Relaunch Covers & Updates", or something similar?)
whoops, didn't read that in time. glad we got it sorted out.
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Nope, mostly definitely not Jake-ish.
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He looks freakishly close to the way I draw Jake - unarched eyebrows, same eyelids, straight nose, slightly cloved chin...all he has is higher cheekbones and more modern hair.
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For some reason I never thought Jake would have a neck that long. that's how mine was at around 16 until I grew into my look a bit more. I'd say this model is too old.
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agreed. 1.0 jake in book one looked about the right age.
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Yeah, he's more like Jake at the end of the story... with lighter hair ^^'
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i'm working on an actual morphing animation using 3 pictures from the cover. i'll have it up by tonight; i think it looks alright.
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i'm working on an actual morphing animation using 3 pictures from the cover. i'll have it up by tonight; i think it looks alright.
Cool. :) Can't wait.
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well, the .gif file is like 20mb (40 if i make it loop), so i'm probably going to find an alternate media to use, probably avi.
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i'm working on an actual morphing animation using 3 pictures from the cover. i'll have it up by tonight; i think it looks alright.
The core before & after images are already bare (without backgrounds) so I was actually going to suggest someone try it out with their own morphing software. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. :)
+1
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Never heard of compression goom? I see no reason you wouldn't be able to get it down to a more reasonable file size and still look decent.
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Never heard of compression goom? I see no reason you wouldn't be able to get it down to a more reasonable file size and still look decent.
i know about compression. i use 'optimize for gif' in GIMP, using only the differences in the layers rather than replacing the whole thing each time.
400 frames is nothing to laugh at :D
i'll try and have an .avi up in a bit, since that would probably work better.
here's the .gif file (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/goombapatrol54/lizardfull.gif) (11mb size, so i figured i wouldn't directly link it).
i couldn't get the beginning quite right, partially due to his hair being cropped off (rather than his whole head being available for me to morph).
the image's first and last frames are both 2000ms, while most of the rest are 40ms.
enjoy. :P
if anybody wants me to, i can make an alternate morph without a loop (jake -> lizard, repeat) for a smaller size.
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Goom, that looks amazing! The transitions look WAY better when they are blended in like that! :D
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thanks. :P
i'm putting the .avi on youtube.
edit: after a lot of compressing, done.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4N4okFVOLo[/youtube]
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That's really great!!! *applaud*
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Nice! :D
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thanks. :P
i'm putting the .avi on youtube.
edit: after a lot of compressing, done.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4N4okFVOLo[/youtube]
I love it! Tina happened to watch it, and gagged, and then said "I afraid of the boy." :P
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thanks guys. i had a bit of a tough time because of the pose angle changing, but i don't think it looks too odd.
if anybody else wants to try something similar, i used a free program called sqirlz morph.
you have to tweak it a LOT to get anything that looks decent (in my eyes), though, so it can be time-consuming.
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I know somewhat, since I've done--er, tried to make a morph. They always came out terribly. :P
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what program did you use?
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I can't remember, it was a free one online, though...you'd literally put dots for the morph or something like that.
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Am I amazing or what? Nearly had a heart attack when I found this:
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7172/amrelaunchrachelpreview.jpg)
Full video and post at: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1563
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I was iffy but O.K. on that Jake, but that girl looks more like Cassie than Rachel.
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Er... how does she look like Cassie exactly?
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Er... how does she look like Cassie exactly?
That would be my point.
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...Huh? O.o You said she looks more like Cassie than like Rachel? HOW?
1) She's blonde.
2) She's caucasian.
Neither of which Cassie is...
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...Huh? O.o You said she looks more like Cassie than like Rachel? HOW?
1) She's blonde.
2) She's caucasian.
Neither of which Cassie is...
Saying she looks more like Cassie than Rachel means that the differences between that model and Rachel are greater than the differences between her and Cassie, since she looks absolutely nothing like Cassie, it therefore means she looks absolutely nothing like Rachel either. It's a bit of an exaggeration, but that's the point I'm trying to make.
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...Okay. O.o I guess..
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Ugh. I'm sorry but I'm not a fan of either of the models. Maybe my expectations of how I imagine them to be are too high though... Jake looks more how I'd imagine David to have looked and Rachel is a little soft looking. Her features are just a little rounded, which isn't a bad thing, just not how I'd imagine Rachel. I guess I could see these models looking like they could be cousins though...
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I think its awesome that the books are being rereleased, but I cannot figure out why there is so much time between the books. Its not like they haven't been written already.
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yeah, if cassie was white with blonde hair, that would be her.
i can't imagine that girl being rachel :/
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I think its awesome that the books are being rereleased, but I cannot figure out why there is so much time between the books. Its not like they haven't been written already.
A lot of it has to do with the fact that they are also relaunching these to get new fans. And Animorphs, as we all know, has lot of continuity. So the last thing Scholastic wants to do is to loose an entirely new generation of fans by releasing these books too quickly. They're going to want to make sure that there is enough hype about these new books-- that there are kids reading them; kids who will be wanting to come back as return customers/fans for future re-releases. It's really all about trying to make a nice big chunk of $$$ out of a property that they know will sell.
(BTW, I'm not intending to put this in completely a negative, big evil corporation kinda-way. There is genuine fan support over at Scholastic from people that are relaunching this series. And as a fan, it's just amazing to get a chance to relive the entire series all over again. But at the same time, it's also a business for Scholastic. So I'm just being realistic.)
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For some reason, I always pictured K.A as someone with a british accent, even though I KNOW she's American. I don't know. I saw a picture of her a few years back and thought, she's british. Whatever. I didn't think she'd sound like THAT though.
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i really hope they change something besides just the covers.
is it confirmed whether or not it'll just be a copy paste?
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I don't like the models either... Jake seems too old, and Rachel was thin in my mind. Her model isn't even cute! (sorry for her...)
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i really hope they change something besides just the covers.
is it confirmed whether or not it'll just be a copy paste?
Yes, they're changing the 90s references to current time. Did you watch the video? K.A says so herself, and Michael Grant said elsewhere that they had approved those changes personally. (The story and characters will still be the same though. Its not a complete re-write of the series.)
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Found it:
"An editor at Scholastic is combing the first two books for outdated references, sending suggested fixes, and asking us to approve. Which we’ve now done."
http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=589
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I'm not so sure how I feel about the series being updated, even though it was my question to K.A./Michael Grant initially, before they knew the answer would be yes.
I mean, yes, it makes the series more accessible to a new generation...but do you go about updating everything from the '90s just because it might have outdated references? Not with literature that should be taken by virtue of its own quality. It should withstand the changes in society, the "test of time" and all that, without needing an update.
To me, it just kind of...cheapens the whole re-release process. That, along with the shiny new covers. Am I alone in thinking this?
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i really hope they change something besides just the covers.
is it confirmed whether or not it'll just be a copy paste?
Yes, they're changing the 90s references to current time. Did you watch the video? K.A says so herself, and Michael Grant said elsewhere that they had approved those changes personally. (The story and characters will still be the same though. Its not a complete re-write of the series.)
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Found it:
"An editor at Scholastic is combing the first two books for outdated references, sending suggested fixes, and asking us to approve. Which we’ve now done."
http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=589
ah yeah, i remember now. i really hope the thought-speak KASU in book one gets fixed.
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I'm not so sure how I feel about the series being updated, even though it was my question to K.A./Michael Grant initially, before they knew the answer would be yes.
I mean, yes, it makes the series more accessible to a new generation...but do you go about updating everything from the '90s just because it might have outdated references? Not with literature that should be taken by virtue of its own quality. It should withstand the changes in society, the "test of time" and all that, without needing an update.
To me, it just kind of...cheapens the whole re-release process. That, along with the shiny new covers. Am I alone in thinking this?
No, I agree with you. :-X Hell, half the reason I reread Animorphs is for the nostalgic value of all the 90s references.
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I also agree with you, Myitt. They don't re-actualize Shakespeare's nor Stowe's nor Austen's books, so why Animorphs?
That's why I hope we'll still find the old version even when the new version will be out.
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I'm not so sure how I feel about the series being updated, even though it was my question to K.A./Michael Grant initially, before they knew the answer would be yes.
I mean, yes, it makes the series more accessible to a new generation...but do you go about updating everything from the '90s just because it might have outdated references? Not with literature that should be taken by virtue of its own quality. It should withstand the changes in society, the "test of time" and all that, without needing an update.
To me, it just kind of...cheapens the whole re-release process. That, along with the shiny new covers. Am I alone in thinking this?
In a way I agree with you. Personally the reason why I still enjoy re-reading the series is because of how nostalgic it is to my childhood, having grown up in the 90s. On the other hand it makes sense for them to update the references and covers for the re-release. I don't know then it wouldn't really be a "re-release" but more of a re-print. I don't know if that made sense...
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I also agree with you, Myitt. They don't re-actualize Shakespeare's nor Stowe's nor Austen's books, so why Animorphs?
That's why I hope we'll still find the old version even when the new version will be out.
Well, you can't really compare classical literature to children's literature. They wouldn't/shouldn't re-print any of Shakespeare's plays because such an idea is ludicrous. Now, a series that has only been around for ten or so years (and not hundreds) is a different matter.
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I think I somewhat consider the rerelease as a seperate series, like an adaptation or something. Any adaptation should remind you of the original source, but you understand it won't quite be the same, and typically not as good. I want to read the 'new' series at some point, but it will always be separate in my mind from the originals.
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I just read book three a few nights ago. I forgot how short the books were. As a kid, it took me a few days to finish, but it took like five hours. And that was just due to the fact that I had other things to do at the time.
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I also agree with you, Myitt. They don't re-actualize Shakespeare's nor Stowe's nor Austen's books, so why Animorphs?
That's why I hope we'll still find the old version even when the new version will be out.
Well, you can't really compare classical literature to children's literature. They wouldn't/shouldn't re-print any of Shakespeare's plays because such an idea is ludicrous. Now, a series that has only been around for ten or so years (and not hundreds) is a different matter.
Yeah, but I just didn't find any children's literature that everybody would know and who also were pretty old and were re-edited and not modified... ^^' But I thinks Animorphs would be the first to be modified like that for a reedition.
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Babysitter's Club has apparently been updated. :-X
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Really? Well, I don't know this series ^^' But if you say so...
It's just surprising to me. I prefer to read the original versions...
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did they update the covers for those as well?
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Yeah, I agree about the original versions. :P And I don't know where BSC was originally published, but it was fairly well-known in the U.S.
did they update the covers for those as well?
Yes. Also, I made a topic about it months ago. :P
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Yeah, I agree about the original versions. :P And I don't know where BSC was originally published, but it was fairly well-known in the U.S.
did they update the covers for those as well?
Yes. Also, I made a topic about it months ago. :P
ah, i must not have checked. not a fan of the series myself :P
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I think I read one book. :P I read an off-shoot series from it, but... well. I abandoned it and never looked back when I started reading Animorphs. XD
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What's babysitter club?
Anyway, I think they should make the new release books thicker, like maybe combine 3 books into one. But then again there'll be 3 themes :P might not work... but I personally think it'd be nice and would worth the wait. I mean one book that thin every three months?
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Got these today!
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6165/am345display.jpg) (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1616)
Full post: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1616
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Thanks Issam, I also posted about this in the RAF Blog earlier.
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nice finds! great job as always.
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My favorite one is the first one. :D Nice.
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Oooh. The format of these covers is growing on me. Good find!
Marco appears to have short hair. *skeptical eyebrow!*
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Ha ha, well spotted Lisa! After all, we all know that he didn't get short hair until the start of #10.
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I know it's supposed to be a bad thing, but... Oi, did I ever hate Marco's long hair. XD
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Cassie's cover brings to mind the rhino scene from Ace Ventura :-X
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i really hope they make tobias's hair blonde. :-\
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i really hope they make tobias's hair blonde. :-\
Me too.
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Now these I like! Much better than the first two, by far! Tobias' cover looks great!
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will the books be published in only english? how about chinese?
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They're changing the covers? Aw... oh well... maybe it'll be better? What about the others? You know, MM and Hork-Bajir Chronicles?
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There are a number of languages that Scholastic is able to publish in, although at this time all we have confirmed is English. That doesn't mean it will stay that way, but it's too soon to know.
Shorm, at this point we aren't even sure that the MM and Chronicles books will be reprinted at all, with or without new covers. The confirmed release list right now covers #1-#6 (I believe). It's my assumption that Scholastic will gauge future releases on the popularity of the first half dozen.
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As they began to make new covers, I supposed there will be new covers for all the volumes they will re-edit. But as said Terenia, we know only for the 6 first volumes (in English) for sure.
I hope we'll have news for the other languages soon. I translate/summarize the news from here and Hirac Delest about the re-release for a French forum about Animorphs. The few members are very excited and wanna know more.
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I am not fully sold on the new covers, either. You can see they want a more 'photo-real' look, but the ones from our time are still so much more engaging and relevant for what they were!
Anyone actually read the re-releases?
I am wondering if the KASU's were fixed up, since they are reaching to a brand new audience. It would be a missed opportunity, if they haven't.
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What about the front page illustrations, just inside the cover? Those were seriously some of the best, most illuminating parts of the books...where else can you get an image of the Hork-Bajir war, or...or the interior of a futuristic Yeerk apartment??
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What about the front page illustrations, just inside the cover? Those were seriously some of the best, most illuminating parts of the books...where else can you get an image of the Hork-Bajir war, or...or the interior of a futuristic Yeerk apartment??
oh, and who could forget those little holes in the fronts? :P
both my #3's got ruined because of those.
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What about the front page illustrations, just inside the cover? Those were seriously some of the best, most illuminating parts of the books...where else can you get an image of the Hork-Bajir war, or...or the interior of a futuristic Yeerk apartment??
oh, and who could forget those little holes in the fronts? :P
both my #3's got ruined because of those.
You know I was going to ask if anyone else had that same problem with #3. I ended up buying a brand new one and pretty much wrapping it up in saran wrap so it wouldn't get damaged. I noticed that as the series went on from that first 4 in the box set, they changed the design of that hole so it was easier to put the books in and out of shelves so they wouldn't rip. I have 3 #3's due to that bad design.
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Yeah, my #3 is a bit ripped up around the red-tail. Hate it when that happens :P
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I think there's maybe one copy of #3 in existence that ISN'T ripped there. Sublime has it. In saran wrap.
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I think there's maybe one copy of #3 in existence that ISN'T ripped there. Sublime has it. In saran wrap.
Make that 2, sans saran wrap. ;)
I hope we'll have news for the other languages soon. I translate/summarize the news from here and Hirac Delest about the re-release for a French forum about Animorphs. The few members are very excited and wanna know more.
If I hear anything, I'll let you know. :)
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Of course the TOBIAS book is the one with the hole issue.
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Really? Mine is #2. Granted, I only recently got #3 in English from a second hand store, and up until then only had it in French, which didn't have the holes... So #2 was my most problomatic one.
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What about the front page illustrations, just inside the cover? Those were seriously some of the best, most illuminating parts of the books...where else can you get an image of the Hork-Bajir war, or...or the interior of a futuristic Yeerk apartment??
We didn't have that in the French edition. That's one of the reasons why I'd like to own the full collection (the old one, of course) in English too... ^^'
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Wait a minute, they're not using a full body picture?
They're just using the heads! :(
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Errr... Yeah. Where were you during the last weeks, Cams?
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I find the new covers much less childish than the old ones.
The general design seems more clean and elaborated even if a bit "boring" maybe for young kids, the square in the middle giving a strict impression to the cover.
The themes of the background are coherent and even elegant for once (feather for book 3, reptilian skin for book 1, footprint for book 6).
In the old covers, colors for the background seemed to be chosen randomly, sometimes it frankly looked bad and not coherent at all (hint hint book 7: Why a green background when Rachel is already wearing a plain red t-shirt?!! Was the book a Xmas edition or what?!)
I was hesitant about the new covers until I was sure about the definition of "lenticular".
It is important to show the morphose on the cover to lure little kids into reading the books ;D (like it happened for me when I was 9).
I also hope the lenticular square will be made so that it doesn't "go away" too easily.
As for the models... I too think the model for Rachel is not very pretty (at least on the picture posted here). Besides she looks way too soft and her face is a bit chubby. Not very Rachel like.
Eventually, for the adaptation of the text... I don't think they should change the technology part given that it could have significant impacts on the whole plot :XD: but I am not against some changes when it comes to cultural references specific to the 90's generation since I believe that the main reason why those specific references were made in the first place was to establish some connection/proximity between the animorphs and the reader.
Some changes were made in the French translations too (the mention of "Buffy" in book 20(?) was changed to "Dracula", since the TV show was not out in France at the time). I don't think it's a big deal. It happens all the time in series/movies when they are translated into another language so that the audience can get the jokes.
It's even more important if the audience is 10 :P.
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Errr... Yeah. Where were you during the last weeks, Cams?
I saw the 3 covers the day they were posted here. And it looked better than I expected, though I still prefer the old design.
It just didn't occur to me until a few days later that I was looking at their faces instead of their entire bodies ,which was I was expecting to see.
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Some changes were made in the French translations too (the mention of "Buffy" in book 20(?) was changed to "Dracula", since the TV show was not out in France at the time). I don't think it's a big deal. It happens all the time in series/movies when they are translated into another language so that the audience can get the jokes.
It's even more important if the audience is 10 :P.
Oh, I didn't remember about that. Where is the Buffy/Dracula reference?
@Cams: lol ok ^^
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*bumps* ;D
Any recent updates?
Oh, and I like the new covers. :)
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Some changes were made in the French translations too (the mention of "Buffy" in book 20(?) was changed to "Dracula", since the TV show was not out in France at the time). I don't think it's a big deal. It happens all the time in series/movies when they are translated into another language so that the audience can get the jokes.
It's even more important if the audience is 10 :P.
Oh, I didn't remember about that. Where is the Buffy/Dracula reference?
@Cams: lol ok ^^
In #20, when they're raiding David's house as birds, Marco notices that Buffy's on TV and complains about how he forgot to tape it (I think).
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Haha they are going to have to replace every Doom referenece with halo xD
All in all though, I hope the re-release is successful. Animorphs was amazing for me when I was growing up (still awsome btw) and it would be great for this generation to be able to experience it.
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Some changes were made in the French translations too (the mention of "Buffy" in book 20(?) was changed to "Dracula", since the TV show was not out in France at the time). I don't think it's a big deal. It happens all the time in series/movies when they are translated into another language so that the audience can get the jokes.
It's even more important if the audience is 10 :P.
Oh, I didn't remember about that. Where is the Buffy/Dracula reference?
@Cams: lol ok ^^
In #20, when they're raiding David's house as birds, Marco notices that Buffy's on TV and complains about how he forgot to tape it (I think).
OK thanks ^^
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Um... not to get off-topic... but WHEN is it coming out? And what IS it exactly? A buffed-up version of Animorphs is what it sounds like. Am I right?
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What about the front page illustrations, just inside the cover? Those were seriously some of the best, most illuminating parts of the books...where else can you get an image of the Hork-Bajir war, or...or the interior of a futuristic Yeerk apartment??
oh, and who could forget those little holes in the fronts? :P
both my #3's got ruined because of those.
Mine too! I'm starting to see a trend in book #3's
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Um... not to get off-topic... but WHEN is it coming out? And what IS it exactly? A buffed-up version of Animorphs is what it sounds like. Am I right?
Have you even peeked at the first post? ::)
Here is the publishing plan, taken from my first post in this thread...
• Animorphs #01: The Invasion - May 2011
• Animorphs #02: The Visitor - May 2011
• Animorphs #03: The Encounter - July 2011
• Animorphs #04: The Message - October 2011
• Animorphs #05: The Predator - January 2012
• Animorphs #06: The Capture - April 2012
It might change if the re-release goes well, so we're only sure about the first two ones released in May this year. :)
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jeez. I'm just realizing how spread out they have the books! I hope it goes back to once a month as the series progresses
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Looks like Animorphs ARCs were released in the recent ALA meeting that Michael Grant and K.A Applegate went to: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1898
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Looks like Animorphs ARCs were released in the recent ALA meeting that Michael Grant and K.A Applegate went to: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1898
(http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/images/am1-ala.jpg)
so jealous of that kid. :)
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Ditto! We should go beat him up for it :D
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You guys beat him. I'll run with the book.
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You guys are looking at this totally wrong. :disgrace:
Don't beat him up, just knock him out. A couple minutes on google, you can probably figure out the right pressure points.
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*sigh* So, I was browsing Amazon, and decided to check to see if the rerelease was available for preorder yet (since I was too lazy to check lately and this thread is long). It was, so I was like "Hm, when's the release date again?"
I looked and saw "May 1st".
My brain read "March 1st".
So queue me flipping out and pre-ordering it and getting rediculously exited... And then realizing that I'm a couple of months off.
Granted, nothing wrong with preordering in advance anyway, but I'm now a bit sad because I went through all that "OMG anytime now!" exitement for nothing.
EDIT: Also, I'm amused by the product details. Apparently this is the "2nd edition edition".
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what would the 3rd time around be then? :P
3rd edition edition edition?
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*sigh* So, I was browsing Amazon, and decided to check to see if the rerelease was available for preorder yet (since I was too lazy to check lately and this thread is long). It was, so I was like "Hm, when's the release date again?"
I looked and saw "May 1st".
My brain read "March 1st".
So queue me flipping out and pre-ordering it and getting rediculously exited... And then realizing that I'm a couple of months off.
Granted, nothing wrong with preordering in advance anyway, but I'm now a bit sad because I went through all that "OMG anytime now!" exitement for nothing.
EDIT: Also, I'm amused by the product details. Apparently this is the "2nd edition edition".
The first 4 books are available to preorder at the moment. These are all the ones I could find for U.S, Canada, etc: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?page_id=1021
Doesn't look like the German, Japan, etc releases will be translated because they all say English on there (for now anyways).
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Edit: I just noticed: the publishing schedule is one volume every THREE months?? How do they expect to release them all with that much time to cover? They'll lose a lot of the new market's interest that way, too. I mean, I could barely wait ONE month!
Considering the first books were published every other month... it's really not that bad.
Well, if they decide to complete the series that will take an extra 51 months... And I believe she published them by the month initially...
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No she didn't. The first few books were published every other month. #1 came out in June '96. #2 in August '96, etc. 's right there on the copyright page. :P Or in Anibase, if you don't have the book.
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For the translations, we have to wait to see... They're always out at least 1 year after the original version.
And I think they must have re-edited them as bigger books including 3~5 volumes. Not a lot of people like to buy 60+ books from the same series... With big books, they'd think they were like Harry Potter... and I think they would have bought them more easily...
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heyy does anyone have any idea when the new books are coming out??
xx
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There's a thread on this already:
http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=6590.270
The first two come out May 1st.
Welcome to RAF!
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hehe thanks ^^
and also for the awesome news!! cant waitt
mine are getting pretty terrible and falling apart.
cant wait till may now =D
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Awesome the books are going to be great to get...even if it is just the first six re-release.
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FYI, our latest update (http://bit.ly/fTjzHF) now has individual relaunch books/articles/video pages set up on the site. Everything on there will be official and confirmed before it is posted on there, so feel free to use it if you ever want to refer to anything regarding the relaunch.
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oh i saw that! nice job on the animations.
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Has anyone else listened to the Christopher and Brooke radio interview on Hirac Delest? It sounds to me that it physically pains them to speak positively about the show :P
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New update guys:
(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5665/pbsummer2011page1thumb2.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9700/pbsummer2011page2thumb2.jpg) (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=2158)
Full Post: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=2158
Post Merged: March 14, 2011, 05:54:54 PM
Guys, Michael Grant just posted a new video for the Animorphs Covers! Go to his Facebook to see it! Or: http://bit.ly/h67E97
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oh, sweet! thanks for the video.
you're right about book 2. i like the new one a lot more.
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that is pretty awesome.
Plus I can't be sure, but I think they finally got a cover girl that looks like what Rachel should look like :P
but I must ask, as any one found out if there is going to being any content change: year of events, pop culture references, technology, fixing KASU's? :-\
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Woah based on that video, the model for Rachel looks completely different from what they had originally showed. I approve!
Omg, I sound so shallow D:
Edit: I really should start reading other people's posts before I decide to reply. I see it's already been confirmed its a new model :p
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I wanted to see the Tobias cover model!
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Updated the blog. Took some screenshots:
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5549/newrachel22011.jpg) (http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1668/newrachel2011.jpg) (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=2197)
Post Merged: March 16, 2011, 11:39:51 PM
THE OFFICIAL ANIMORPHS RELAUNCH TRAILER:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfJhJJjbGv4[/youtube]
Screenshot of new Rachel and full post: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=2214 ;)
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I don't know if its been shown yet, but here's a look at the cover for #6 The Capture from the inside covers of the new books.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd114/sunsetblvd00/insidecover.png)
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Cool pic of number six!
And I just realized that there's a new web address! :D http://www.scholastic.com/JoinOurFight (http://www.scholastic.com/JoinOurFight)! Which...
...redirects to the same website we've had for years, http://www.scholastic.com/Animorphs (http://www.scholastic.com/Animorphs) :-\ Oh well. I guess that's a good way of keeping track of how many people go there as directed by the video. :shrug:
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Hah, yeah, I totally noticed that yesterday too! A little disappointed it was just a re-direct (oh well). I don't know why they just don't advertise www.animorphs.com, rather than as a sub-domain for scholastic. Easier to remember, and they own it, so it makes no sense, lol.
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The website has started to change, I think maybe as early as today as I went there earlier and it did not look like it does now (which is pretty cool). Reading guides, characters, etc. Nice
Also:
(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/design/img/book_images/book_1.jpg)(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/design/img/book_images/book_2.jpg)(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/design/img/book_images/book_3.jpg)(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/design/img/book_images/book_4.jpg)(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/design/img/book_images/book_5.jpg)(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/design/img/book_images/book_6.jpg)
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It's so cool. I wish I had more time to check it out. Gotta go to work! :(
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Holy wow. I just saw this change and it hurts me inside. Look at Rachel's character profile.
[spoiler]
She is no longer 'Xena:Warrior Princess'. Instead?
Nicknames: Storm (from X-Men) or Ms. Fashion
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I love what they've done with the site! But Marco, Jake, and Rachel just don't look like...themselves. Oh and just gotta point out....
[spoiler]Cassie's new model is HOT[/spoiler]
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The new Tobias model sorta has blond-ish hair, but it's still predominantly brown. Guess they're going with the "dirty blond" idea that Tobias mentioned at the behest of a "dumb blond" joke directed at Rachel. Marco doesn't look hispanic enough, and Cassie doesn't look enough like a farm/barn worker.
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The only ones I don't really care for are Marco and Rachel. also...
THEY TOOK DOWN THE OLD SITE!!!! GAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Edit: nevermind, I found the old one. Now let's see how long it lasts
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Holy wow. I just saw this change and it hurts me inside. Look at Rachel's character profile.
[spoiler]
She is no longer 'Xena:Warrior Princess'. Instead?
Nicknames: Storm (from X-Men) or Ms. Fashion
[/spoiler]
Yea, despite my previous apparently failed topic that I posted for simple fun. I'm not really liking that change either! :(
ETA:
Ummmm about Marco:
[spoiler]Shouldn't his model have long shoulder length hair at first? And the subsequent appearances depict shorter hair? They made a big deal of him cutting his hair in book #10. Maybe I'm just looking too much into that matter...[/spoiler]
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Oh yeah, I just noticed that...I'm starting to dislike this new site more and more now :P First they make Cassie more attractive then her, then they change her nickname in exchange for one she's only been called by ONCE
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You're right! Marco, being somewhat hispanic (on his mom's side), has long hair for the first nine books, and then he cuts it! That ought to be changed, but I guess they didn't want to make Marco's new model kid grow out his hair just for a couple of photos that would last them for the first nine books. (Cover of #6 and Megamorphs #1, plus promotional stuff)
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His hair is a like a mini-fro now. I guess he could cut that
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The new Tobias model sorta has blond-ish hair, but it's still predominantly brown. Guess they're going with the "dirty blond" idea that Tobias mentioned at the behest of a "dumb blond" joke directed at Rachel.
agreed. tobias's hair looks slightly red-ish to me, which is completely wrong.
Marco doesn't look hispanic enough, and Cassie doesn't look enough like a farm/barn worker.
seriously, cassie looks more hispanic than this marco ::)
His hair is a like a mini-fro now. I guess he could cut that
doubt it. :-\
Holy wow. I just saw this change and it hurts me inside. Look at Rachel's character profile.
[spoiler]
She is no longer 'Xena:Warrior Princess'. Instead?
Nicknames: Storm (from X-Men) or Ms. Fashion
[/spoiler]
i just died a little.
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I got both of the first books in the mail today, but the lenticular paste-on of The Visitor was crooked! Does this make it more valuable?
My guess is that the machine putting it on slipped and made it crooked by mistake. I can only hope this because it's a super-early copy.
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About the update on Rachel's profile:
[spoiler]So in regards to her new nickname supposedly being "Storm," I don't feel like that's a good fit. Chances are someone like Marco should know that Storm is more of a leader-type character, nowhere near as direct as Xena. Heck, JAKE makes a better Storm than Rachel.
It seems that they had no idea what to change Rachel's new nickname to so they just went with what was easiest...being the nickname that was already mentioned.
Personally I feel that Rachel is more of an X-23 than Storm personality-wise, but not everyone reads X-Men comics and they have to choose a mainstream character.
I guess if they DO make Rachel's new nickname Storm, then they will mention Hallie Berry instead of Lucy Lawless at the Planet Hollywood concert. [/spoiler]
And yea, Marco looks nowhere near Hispanic. I have cousins that are half Hispanic (I happen to be 100% Hispanic) and they look more ethnic than him! I do like the Cassie model, they just better have her wear overalls at one point!
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You're right! Marco, being somewhat hispanic (on his mom's side), has long hair for the first nine books, and then he cuts it! That ought to be changed, but I guess they didn't want to make Marco's new model kid grow out his hair just for a couple of photos that would last them for the first nine books. (Cover of #6 and Megamorphs #1, plus promotional stuff)
Photoshop? :P Not that hard. I think it's just Scholastic not caring/paying attention. Or us being uber nitpicky.
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Maybe I'm so easy to please...But the new website=AWESOME!
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I got both of the first books in the mail today, but the lenticular paste-on of The Visitor was crooked! Does this make it more valuable?
My guess is that the machine putting it on slipped and made it crooked by mistake. I can only hope this because it's a super-early copy.
The lenticular parts on both my books were crooked. It annoyed me :/
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The lenticular parts on both my books were crooked. It annoyed me :/
Oh good, then I'm not alone. I sure hope this doesn't happen a whole bunch. They'll probably start weeding out these bad ones in the "factory" when Quality Control gets its act in gear.
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I'm gonna go with everyone just being uber-picky. Seriously, who cares about the tiny details? So Cassie has long hair? Big whoop. She's more attractive then previous models of her? GOOD. I hated all of her earlier models. Rachel's nickname changed? It HAS to. No kids today knwo who Xena is, or anything about her. It doesn't change the story, or the character one iota so I don't see what the big damn deal is.
Can't people just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of nit picking everything to death and being so negative about every tiny little detail that isn't the exact same?
P.S. And about those saying Storm isn't leader-type - You obviously aren't familiar with X-Men outside of the movies. In many of the comics, Storm is second/third in command right behind Cyclops and Jean Grey (Who are normally tied on the leadership totem) and quite OFTEN in the comics, IS in charge because of those two either not being around for the arc, or off handling something else important to the story. Also, she does end up the leader by the end of the movie series as well.
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I think they're saying that the problem is that Storm IS a leader type, while Rachel isn't.
Also, can anyone remember the first time she's reffered to as Xena? It could be that they're just waiting until the refference comes up.
And really... Xena wasn't super popular when the series first came out, either, and I got the refference. I think it's fair to say that most people would have at least HEARD about it, and if not, the title "Warrior Princess" is descriptive enough to figure it out.
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Can't people just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of nit picking everything to death and being so negative about every tiny little detail that isn't the exact same?
But it's more fun to be obsessive nit pickers! I've been looking forward to reading them side by side and finding all the changes since like, forever. You can't take that away from me. :P
But you're right, it doesn't change the actual story. I'm sure some of the changes will actually clear up discrepancies and confusion (KASU's?); some changes, however, are harder to swallow because they feel like part of the essence of the series, even if they are not plot related. Rachel being Xena happens to be one of those things, in my mind. It won't change the story at all, but it still changes how it feels. >_>
It totally makes sense in my mind. Shut up.
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I'm gonna go with everyone just being uber-picky. Seriously, who cares about the tiny details? So Cassie has long hair? Big whoop. She's more attractive then previous models of her? GOOD. I hated all of her earlier models.
Model(singular) she was the only Animorph to have the same model through the entire series. And I agree. I find nothing wrong with this Cassie model
Rachel's nickname changed? It HAS to. No kids today knwo who Xena is, or anything about her. It doesn't change the story, or the character one iota so I don't see what the big damn deal is.
Xena was never all that popular. It's just that that name has always been Rachel's trademark nickname. It would be like turning Batman's nickname into "The Dark Guy" or Ax calling Jake "Mr. Jake" or just plain ole Jake, instead of "Prince Jake". Or Ax's nickname being "Ax-dude"(those last two would actually make me vomit uncontrollably on whatever book they say that in) The nickname pretty much became an actual character, that character being Rachel's violent and reckless side
Can't people just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of nit picking everything to death and being so negative about every tiny little detail that isn't the exact same?
There are an equal amount of pros and cons to nitpicking. Yes it does make the people who do it seem like hard-to-please brats at times but it also shows that they truly care about the quality of whatever it is they're complaining about.
P.S. And about those saying Storm isn't leader-type - You obviously aren't familiar with X-Men outside of the movies. In many of the comics, Storm is second/third in command right behind Cyclops and Jean Grey (Who are normally tied on the leadership totem) and quite OFTEN in the comics, IS in charge because of those two either not being around for the arc, or off handling something else important to the story. Also, she does end up the leader by the end of the movie series as well.
But...that person's argument was about how Storm IS more of a leader type..so where were you going with this?
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Hahahaha.
I totally want Ax to call Jake Mr. Jake instead of Prince Jake.
And for the record, I had no idea who Xena was when I read the books and to this date have never seen a single episode of that show. I still understood the reference. :P
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Rachel's nickname changed? It HAS to. No kids today knwo who Xena is, or anything about her. It doesn't change the story, or the character one iota so I don't see what the big damn deal is.
Well, most book series (or books in general) don't have to be updated to make everything "current" and "in the now", so to me it detracts from the story to have to change an ingrained character nickname just to appease a new generation.
So to me, it does change the series...but it's already done, so I'm accepting it for what it is.
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So Cassie has long hair? Big whoop. She's more attractive then previous models of her? GOOD. I hated all of her earlier models.
There was only one model for Cassie on the original book covers (4 through 54), and her first name was Biko. (The Anibase itself says so.) She stayed young-enough looking and didn't have to go far away off to college like the other models did.
I actually really liked Biko, she was like the perfect Cassie: Down to Earth-looking, a farm girl, wearing modest clothes (and overalls on the cover of MM3). She didn't have to be super-attractive, and I could totally see the Jake of covers 1 through 36 having a crush on/falling in love with her.
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There was only one model for Cassie on the original book covers
Well then, that would explain why I hated them all, lol. And I couldn't stand her. Something about her just looked unnatural, like she was the only one not real and was instead created digitally or something. It's hard to explain, but she looked like a fake human.
.so where were you going with this?
Xena is just as much of a leader, if not more-so, as Storm. Both are headstrong and willing to rush into battle without thinking. I fail to see the difference between the two, that's where I'm going with it. The essence of both characters, and of Rachel, are the exact same.
they truly care about the quality of whatever it is they're complaining about.
Except the quality hasn't changed one iota.
Xena was never all that popular.
Except she was. To this day, I've never seen one single episode, however as a kid from the 90's, everyone knew who Xena and Hercules were. They were two of the biggest shows back then, and commercials for them (As well as toys, books, ect) were EVERYWHERE. Being a kid from the mid 90's and not knowing who Xena is, is like being a kid now and not knowing who Buzz Lightyear and Woody are. Even if you've never seen it, you know who the characters are.
It would be like turning Batman's nickname into "The Dark Guy" or Ax calling Jake "Mr. Jake" or just plain ole Jake, instead of "Prince Jake".
No, it's nothing like that. The change is because kids today have never even heard of Xena before and have no idea who she is, so comparing Rachel to her is a piss-poor description because they have no familiarity with who she's being compared to.
But it's more fun to be obsessive nit pickers!
Not sure how being negative about every tiny little detail is fun, but to each their own I guess.
It totally makes sense in my mind. Shut up.
Hahaha, I'm glad it does for someone, cause it doesn't in mine, lol.
t does change the series
No, I'm sorry, but changing a character's nickname does NOT change the series. It doesn't even change the character. She's still the exact same character. MAYBE if K.A. was a lesser writer and kept telling us of how strong Rachel is and all that through the nickname but never shows us, but luckily she's an excellent writer and she SHOWS us that through Rachel's actions, thus no, nothing is changed. Especially since what it's changed into, is still the exact same comparison.
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Well then, that would explain why I hated them all, lol. And I couldn't stand her. Something about her just looked unnatural, like she was the only one not real and was instead created digitally or something. It's hard to explain, but she looked like a fake human
No. This:
[spoiler]
(http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/download/bk47.jpg)
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is a fake human
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.so where were you going with this?
Xena is just as much of a leader, if not more-so, as Storm. Both are headstrong and willing to rush into battle without thinking. I fail to see the difference between the two, that's where I'm going with it. The essence of both characters, and of Rachel, are the exact same.
Well, I will say that Xena possess a more ruthless persona than Storm, which matches Rachel.
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No. This:
is a fake human
Egads. What is wrong with his face? lol
P.S. I am not happy that I never got an e-mail notification to this thread and instead had to come check it myself. For future reference for both this thread and others, if I don't reply in a few days, and someone has directed a response to me, it's not that I'm ignoring you, it's that getting e-mail notifications seems to only work half the time and I'm not aware of the new replies yet.
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I always click the "Show new replies to your posts." link at the top to stay up with conversations. I don't bother with cluttering up my inbox.
And as for the Jake on the cover of 47, that and Megamorphs 4 was the first time they used that model. The original Jake, who was there until cover 36, was better IMO.
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Yeah, that model is, uh, kinda scary. Like a wimpy Terminator.
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For those of us who are upset about how Caucasian Marco looks, there is a petition (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marcomodel_animorphs/). Whitewashing is still an unfortunate trend in popular media and since Scholastic has been receptive to fan input on the models in the past, hopefully we can get a kid who actually looks Hispanic as Marco.
I know as a child who only had Mulan as a role model who shared my race, characters that look 'like you' can be really empowering to a kid.
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No, I'm sorry, but changing a character's nickname does NOT change the series. It doesn't even change the character. She's still the exact same character. MAYBE if K.A. was a lesser writer and kept telling us of how strong Rachel is and all that through the nickname but never shows us, but luckily she's an excellent writer and she SHOWS us that through Rachel's actions, thus no, nothing is changed. Especially since what it's changed into, is still the exact same comparison.
Slushie, it's my opinion if I think changing a character's comparison to a headstrong warrior princess changes the series, at least a little bit. I think Xena is a much tougher character than Storm. You can have your own opinion, that's great, but don't be so sure of yourself that you trample on mine. ::) Yeesh, kid.
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LisaCharly, did you start that petition? I signed as "Jordan" and donated $2 to the site.
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For those of us who are upset about how Caucasian Marco looks, there is a petition (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marcomodel_animorphs/). Whitewashing is still an unfortunate trend in popular media and since Scholastic has been receptive to fan input on the models in the past, hopefully we can get a kid who actually looks Hispanic as Marco.
I know as a child who only had Mulan as a role model who shared my race, characters that look 'like you' can be really empowering to a kid.
Guys, maybe I'm not being sensitive enough or something, but I don't think Marco looks Caucasian...besides, I've known Hispanic people who are dark skinned, and Hispanic people who are white as paper...I think it's clear from the series that he's of Hispanic descent, and honestly, from the cover as well.
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I signed as well. I simply put 'Bear' there, because that's the way I'm known in the Animorphs community.
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For those of us who are upset about how Caucasian Marco looks, there is a petition (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marcomodel_animorphs/). Whitewashing is still an unfortunate trend in popular media and since Scholastic has been receptive to fan input on the models in the past, hopefully we can get a kid who actually looks Hispanic as Marco.
I know as a child who only had Mulan as a role model who shared my race, characters that look 'like you' can be really empowering to a kid.
Guys, maybe I'm not being sensitive enough or something, but I don't think Marco looks Caucasian...besides, I've known Hispanic people who are dark skinned, and Hispanic people who are white as paper...I think it's clear from the series that he's of Hispanic descent, and honestly, from the cover as well.
I can see that model being hispanic, you're totally right about hispanic descent people are all colors of God's rainbow.
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I didn't start it, a friend did. You're right about Hispanic people having a variety of different looks, and the wording of the petition has been changed to reflect that. That kid looks pretty white, though, and I think the average person would see that kid as presumed Caucasian. Marco is described at various points in the series as having darker features, and given the dearth of minority characters in children's literature, I don't think it's okay to err on the side of whiter. Kids that look like the model already have a variety of pop culture characters to see themselves reflected in - kids with darker features don't, and since Marco intially belonged to the latter I don't think it's appropriate to lighten him up.
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I don't see him as any lighter then some of the classic cover models used for him.
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For those of us who are upset about how Caucasian Marco looks,
I can see that model being hispanic,
Guys, maybe I'm not being sensitive enough or something, but I don't think Marco looks Caucasian...
I don't see him as any lighter then some of the classic cover models used for him.
And thus, we have entered the realm of personal opinion.... It appears that some people beleive that Marco's model should look more stereotypical Hispanic (darker features being one of the dominant desired changes) and some people feel that the current model is just fine. Yes, I believe that we all understand and accept that Hispanics can (and often do) have a variety of coloring, etc. My personal opinion is that Marco should be easily identifiable as Hispanic as the books suggest.
But... to each his own.
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I would have signed the petition if I didn't have to pay for it :P
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You don't. You sign and then it will ask for a donation, which you don't have to pay.
I'm not going to defend some of their choices of cover model (urgh #20), but if you think this model is darker-skinned than #30 or #10's model, you might need to adjust your screen. But the point isn't to compare this model to past models so much as to the contents of the books, where Marco is described as having darker features, a trait which is underrepresented as protagonists in children's media.
But yeah, YMMV. I'm not going to browbeat anyone into signing. :)
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His skin bothers you? I'd be more concerned about the small animal living on this guy's head!
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Actually, the thing that bothers me the most is that I can't decide whether he looks more like Corey from Boy Meets World or Louis from Even Stevens. :3
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now THAT's scary
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I find he looks like a younger version of my brother in law. (Who's Lebanese, so still not the "right" race for the character, but not white, either)
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I follow Michael Grant on twitter, and he's been having the following conversation with a fan:
@thefayz btw MG has someone contacted you about whitewashing of models for the Animorphs rerelease? There's movement in Ani fandom over it
@LisaCharly I haven't heard anything about this. We haven't seen a Cassie cover yet. Do you have a link?
thefayz: @LisaCharly I just saw: Marco does look a wee bit anglo, doesn't he? Sigh. They don't really clear stuff with us. They barely talk to us.
@thefayz Fans have a petition going here http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marcomodel_animorphs/ and sending emails to Mr/Mrs Van Stratten
@LisaCharly Who is Van Stratten?
@LisaCharly I see it now. Don't know him/her.KA is out of town will discuss when she gets home.We do NOT approva of whitewashing (more)
@LisaCharly But to be honest they may have showed us & we may not have clicked.Dont think so.But maybe.Honestly we're buried in work (more)
@LisaCharly Related example: on GONE I have a character described as overweight. Cover model not so much. Let me talk to KA. Tweet me again.
@LisaCharly We love the anifans.When Scholastic didn't care, you guys still did.We don't forget that.Good night.
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nice find. :)
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It's really not that big a deal. People are treating it like it's the end of the world or something.
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It's not the end of the world, but for some readers, especially some readers who remember being racial minority kids, it matters. Not saying every person who's a minority cares, or even most, but clearly a lot of people do, since there are over a hundred signatures on the petition already. It's certainly a bigger deal than Storm vs. Xena.
Also, a more complete copy of the conversation is here (http://community.livejournal.com/animorphs/626434.html).
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Sorry for missing some of the things you said, LisaCharly. I'm not a regular twitter user and I got frustrated clicking around trying to figure out what was in response to what.
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No problem! Twitter is a pain in the neck, I ended up having to click through a million windows trying to get the conversation in one page.
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No problem! Twitter is a pain in the neck, I ended up having to click through a million windows trying to get the conversation in one page.
Oooo! You're on Twitter?! I just added you, I'm 'kheetor84'. :D
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Which reminds me, why doesn't Animorphs have black males? (Nothing racist implied here)
I know Cassies' supposed to represent that end, but there's no males that I can recall being included there. Was California a white supermajority state?
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Was California a white supermajority state?
AREA YEAR SEX AGE Non-Hispanic Non-Hispanic Non-Hispanic Non-Hispanic
White Asian/Pacific Black Indian
California 1996 Female 13 93343 27049 17509 2651
California 1996 Male 13 99687 28717 18683 2649
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AREA YEAR SEX AGE Hispanic Hispanic Hispanic Hispanic
White Asian/Pacific Black Indian
California 1996 Female 13 81302 2092 1968 303
California 1996 Male 13 89206 2167 1969 2499
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Which reminds me, why doesn't Animorphs have black males? (Nothing racist implied here)
I know Cassies' supposed to represent that end, but there's no males that I can recall being included there.
Cassie's dad, Walter, was black. I'm sure there were some minor unnamed characters in the books who were black males.
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Which reminds me, why doesn't Animorphs have black males? (Nothing racist implied here)
I know Cassies' supposed to represent that end, but there's no males that I can recall being included there. Was California a white supermajority state?
Not by any means. Whites are actually the minority here in california. It's just she was super limited with only 5 humans, 3 of who were boys.
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^Whites are a majority in CA. (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html) 40~%, compared to people of Hispanic descent who are the second largest group at 37~%.
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well technically whites are majority, but barely. but when you compare minorities v.s. white, there is far more minorities then whites. And you also have to realize there is a huge hispanic population not officially accounted for as they are undocumented, and there for do not get counted in the census. (Altho there are numbers for them, which is interesting in and of itself). But that isn't a topic for this thread.
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Whites are a minority in California...that's a laugh. Largest white non-Hispanic population in the U.S.
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why is it a laugh? You were here, you saw our makeup. We were the only white people in several of the places we went to. I remember talking about this in my poly sci class. If you add in the numbers of the undocumented Hispanics that obviously don't get counted in the official census, they outnumber the white population.
But like I said, back to the topic...........The new covers suck.
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Seems that Scholastic has heard the fan reaction and will be changing the model for Marco. Yay!
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It's a laugh because it's not true. I don't remember ever feeling like a minority, plus the statistics say that while there are plenty of Hispanic people in California, there are still more white/Caucasian people.
And I think the new covers have warmed to me, a bit.
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Myitt, how many whites are in colorado vs what you saw here in cali? When I came back from texas I had totally forgotten just how many asians there are here. HUGE difference from there to here. Statistics don't account all the undocumented people. But they are here, even though not in the census. BUT I am seriously done going off topic in this thread. I will not respond off topic anymore.
Lisa, what was the original model?
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I dunno, I work with a lot of Mexican-Americans in Colorado...anyway.
The covers are shinyyyy.
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Seems that Scholastic has heard the fan reaction and will be changing the model for Marco. Yay!
Yay! First step was Marco's model. Now on to the Xena/Storm thing ^-^
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MG and KA have already said somewhere that they're going to try and fix that.
Also, the old Marco model is visible on the Scholastic website. They need to cast and complete a photoshoot for the new one.
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Rachel as Storm instead of Xena? If she Has to be an X-Man, I'd say she'd be better described as a female version of Wolverine. :p With as much beauty as Hugh Jackman has hotness (almost as much as my husband does ;) )
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MG and KA have already said somewhere that they're going to try and fix that.
Also, the old Marco model is visible on the Scholastic website. They need to cast and complete a photoshoot for the new one.
Well, despite my initial apathy about the choice of Marco's cover model, I'm glad Scholastic and MG/KA listened to fan concerns. I feel like we're lucky to be fans of something where the people in charge really listen to us.
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Totally. It's good to win one. Hirac Delest has posted about it: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=2347
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It's not the fact that Rachel's nickname changed that bothers me. It bothers me that they nickname her Storm, when Rachel has a lot more in common with the X-men's Rogue.
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I thought Rachel was more like Wolverine
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I thought Rachel was more like Wolverine
Or even better, X-23! ::)
But in other news, I am thrilled that Scholastic is recasting the Marco model. Just glad to know that Scholastic is listening to the fans.
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Woot! I'm not the only one. -high five's Graphic Blue-
OTOH, I seem to be the only one who could care less about the covers. Nothing they could ever do would come close to the image in my head I get from reading these so the cover art doesn't matter as far as reliability goes. It DOES need to at least try to avoid the preconceptions of childishness that some people- especially me- had when first seeing the original covers. If, perhaps, they used higher quality art versions of the inside cover art for the outside of the new versions, it would partly counteract that, to some degree. But that's just my opinion. -shrugs- People encountering Animorphs for the first time are likely to judge it as more childish than it truly is at first. It's not til around the teens or twenties of the books that the series really starts to build up into the depth, complexity, and ethical -for lack of a better word- ''adultness'' that really sets it apart from typical kid-lit fare. It's going to take more than just good covers to really get new fans to see beneath the just-another-kids-series veneer. We classic fans are going to have to spread the word and make a point that these books are, like the kids themselves in morphs, more than meets the eye. And it's what we classic fans see clearly in the series as a whole, and what newbies will see dimly in the first few books, that really makes Animorphs a treasure.
I think that's enough fan-gush for one post. :p
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Funny. I thought this wasn't supposed to come out until May! Imagine my surprise when I found them at the bookstore this afternoon.
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I just saw your video. First the Scholastic sale and now this. I think I'm cursed to be the last one to get these books. :P
Post Merged: April 18, 2011, 05:43:27 PM
I HAVE THE NEW ANIMORPHS BOOKS! AAHHHH! :D
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Lol. Is this why I'm being thanked? My video brought your attention to a local book store?
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Lol. Is this why I'm being thanked? My video brought your attention to a local book store?
The book store I went to was at the OTHER end of town, so yeah. I wouldn't have went down there if you hadn't called attention at the Indigo stores. I normally go to a local book store closer to me, but they're too busy following the 'rules', and won't have it till May. :P
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Anything for a fellow Canadian.
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have u guys had a chance 2 read them yet?
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Just picked my copies up today, of both. Haven't started reading them yet, but most likely will tonight.
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Did my video make you aware, too? :o
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wth all of you canadians have the books and havent even read them yet?! I wana know if they are different from the originals!!!!
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I just got mine yesterday! I also got Portal 2 yesterday, so unfortunately, my new books are still sitting on my shelf unread. ^^;
But Portal 2 is awesome so it's okay.
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I just got mine yesterday! I also got Portal 2 yesterday, so unfortunately, my new books are still sitting on my shelf unread. ^^;
But Portal 2 is awesome so it's okay.
Agh, I'm such a big fan of the first Portal. I'm giving myself a week to catch up on all the work I have before I go get it myself. Productivity is going away for a long time as soon I get it. :P
wth all of you canadians have the books and havent even read them yet?! I wana know if they are different from the originals!!!!
Hey don't forget, the U.S. has had them an entire month before us (via Scholastic's store)! :P
Also, I finished the first book last night. Yes, they are slightly different. I'd rather not spoil it for everybody, but you can read my review for it here (http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/162093269).
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I thought they weren't coming out til may here?
And no spoilers, but are a lot of the sentences still exactly the same?
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I thought they weren't coming out til may here?
And no spoilers, but are a lot of the sentences still exactly the same?
It's still officially launched in May, so I have no idea why they have been released early in some parts. Scholastic hasn't given me a reason as to why either (Why question it? This is a good thing. :P)
And yes, the story exactly the same. There is only one major change/update, but it doesn't affect the ending, beginning, or anything else. And the rest are minor and unnoticeable unless you are actually looking for them. So all this does is make the series more timeless rather than date it back to the 90's, which is a good thing for introducing the series to new readers especially. :)
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well, im still not sure i will buy them. I swore off K.A. applegate after the book #54 (I promised myself I would never buy another K.A. book again). BUT I will see if i can get the first one from the library, read it, and then see if that changes my mind
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I thought they weren't coming out til may here?
And no spoilers, but are a lot of the sentences still exactly the same?
nothing obvious is changed except for that one scene.
i read the whole book side by side with the original, and i recommend you try the same. :)
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goom how do you already have the new book? and something tells me an important scene was changed?
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fixed, not changed. i've had the first two books for a month and a half or so - got them online (with the discount too!).
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There was a massive error in the original book and that error has now been fixed.
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FYI, the fans at LJ are saying that the new books are now available in Waldenbooks/Borders. Also, Amazon (Canada & U.S) has started shipping out the books as well.
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Two questions:
1) Essam, if you don't mind my asking, what is it you do? :P I've been wondering. For some reason I got the impression that you have ties with Scholastic...I don't know why.
2) Is the Encounter still slated for it's original release?
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Two questions:
1) Essam, if you don't mind my asking, what is it you do? :P I've been wondering. For some reason I got the impression that you have ties with Scholastic...I don't know why.
In real life? Just a graduate with a Bachelor's Degree looking to find something in my career. I work 2 jobs in the mean while though. Also, I don't work for Scholastic, but they know who I am. :)
2) Is the Encounter still slated for it's original release?
Still July 01, 2011, as far as I know, yes.
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Oh, cool. You're in regular contact with them?
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i can't believe they took out the cover quote, the inside cover, and the "flip the pages and watch it morph" things. I loved those things
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Oh, cool. You're in regular contact with them?
Nah, nothing past formal introductions, etc. But they are all very excited about the re-release over there. I wouldn't be surprised if they were fans of the books as well.
i can't believe they took out the cover quote, the inside cover, and the "flip the pages and watch it morph" things. I loved those things
It's not a deal breaker, imo. What would be the fun of owning the exact same thing twice? I like that there are differences between the two editions now, both in look and content. It gives me a reason to own both versions, as well to fans who already own the entire series (like me).
Also, I find that the lenticular covers are really well done. I was afraid they'd turn out like those cheap dvd covers or something, but the transition morphing feels fluid on these covers, so overall I'm very satisfied. :D
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Oh, and for those that missed our latest update 3 days ago, Scholastic has launched Animorphs #1 as an official ebook, on both the Kindle and the Nook: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=2520
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JUST got mine from Amazon today. Oh my... Boy I feel the 12 year old self inside of leaping for joy. If I wasn't so freakin' sick and sore in my arm bones, I would READ them. But it HURTS.
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Got books #1 and #2 today from a local Barnes and Noble. Read The Invasion so far, so good. I'm happy with the relaunch although there are things that could've been done differently.
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Got books #1 and #2 today from a local Barnes and Noble. Read The Invasion so far, so good. I'm happy with the relaunch although there are things that could've been done differently.
I just did the same thing,got mine at Barnes and Noble for $14.99.
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I saw the first 2 books today in the mall. Even though Ive known what they looked like for a while now, its still kinda surreal seeing Animorphs on shelves again after all this time. I didn't buy them (flat broke, a side effect of being jobless I suppose) but I just wanted to mention that.
Also, while the lenticular cover looked exactly as I expected, it takes some odd viewing angles to see both forms. the most natural front on angle just gives you a half morph, while to morph it human or to animal requires you to slant it pretty far up or down. This is why I was never gung ho about the lenticular thing in the first place. I prefer covers that look good from front on.
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Also, while the lenticular cover looked exactly as I expected, it takes some odd viewing angles to see both forms. the most natural front on angle just gives you a half morph, while to morph it human or to animal requires you to slant it pretty far up or down. This is why I was never gung ho about the lenticular thing in the first place. I prefer covers that look good from front on.
I think that was intentional. From straight on, you see both images just like in all promotional materials where they can only show you a still image of the book cover. You move it up and down to see either end of the animation.
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This is really exciting to know these books are back in stores. I would have my dad, each Saturday morning of the new month, take me to Barnes and Noble. The walk-in, through the store and to the back where the children's section was was so thrilling. I can remember turning the corner, and they would have the Animorphs books on the very bottom row, and I would always get a glimpse of the cover from far away. I vividly remember how awesome the cover to #26 looked in person.
I've held off on getting these, because I want to do it like I did in the olden days. Even though I'm now grown up (hah), and have my own job, own car, and live on my own, I'm going to have my dad pick me up and have him drive me to the same Barnes and Noble, and the children's section is still in the same spot so we're going to do the same walk through the store and grab the new releases. Just like it was in 1998. Can't wait!
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I'm going to have my dad pick me up and have him drive me to the same Barnes and Noble, and the children's section is still in the same spot so we're going to do the same walk through the store and grab the new releases. Just like it was in 1998. Can't wait!
i'm tempted to do the same thing now. ;)
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I got #1 and #2 today for myself; I'm planning on getting them for some other people too. I hope sales are doing all right in other areas; in the bookstore I was at they were really hard to find if you were actually looking for them.
Plus for some reason they put #2 out first and #1 came out days later.
Plus there was only like, four each.
But I got The Invasion today and it looked like a few of the other books had been bought (we're a small town so...) and that was exciting.
This is a Borders bookstore, so, you know. They're going through bankruptcy mayhem >_> This store wasn't supposed to be shutting down but I more or less expect them all to go within the next few years. Too bad because they were like /the/ bookstore here.
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I just like going to the Chapters to SEE the books on the shelf.
Unforunately, here in Canada, our filing system is loopy...Seriously. They have the Children's 9-12 section...AND a Children's 9-12 Popular Book Series section...Like, why not just put them together? It just gives me, as a customer, more work.
Same with record stores...
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And so it begins...the release has begun. And that just makes me feel ups and downs. I don't know why but I DO feel thrilled to run to the bookstore in Singapore and dig out those books and start reading it like my old 12-year-old self onwards. But at the same time, I'm a bit anxious. I guess I fear what changes there could be that I'm gonna redo my Animorphs fics...
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Throw the irony away please... My heart just died inside of me cuz of the irony...I shouldn't think this way but it's conflicting me! The SHAME!!! -runs away from the shame, crying- I'M NOT WORTHY TO BE A RAF MEMBER WITH THAT KIND OF SHAME!! NOT WORTHYYYYYY!
Post Merged: May 09, 2011, 02:39:21 AM
Oddly enough, the series hasn't arrived in Singapore and it's already more than a week. :/
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There really aren't any changes. They just fix a continuity error in book #1
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There really aren't any changes. They just fix a continuity error in book #1
Ah, ok. Well still nice to look at them. Lost all me books and sadly the books at the libraries are either stolen or disappeared. >_>
So they never made it such that in the books, its 2011? Nuts, that means I can't give Ax a flat TV in his scoop and a XBox 360 to Jake or Marco. There were rumors about the series maybe being today's year but I shouldn't believe them. :-\
With that in mind, now I've got one chapter to redo completely....sheee eez.
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I'm going to have my dad pick me up and have him drive me to the same Barnes and Noble, and the children's section is still in the same spot so we're going to do the same walk through the store and grab the new releases. Just like it was in 1998. Can't wait!
i'm tempted to do the same thing now. ;)
We still have the same book store in the mall that we used to have when I was a kid, so I did the same thing when I was picking up the relaunch books. :D
There really aren't any changes. They just fix a continuity error in book #1
So they never made it such that in the books, its 2011? Nuts, that means I can't give Ax a flat TV in his scoop and a XBox 360 to Jake or Marco. There were rumors about the series maybe being today's year but I shouldn't believe them. :-\
No, none of that was ever confirmed. Doing so would have meant rewriting the series, and that's not what the relaunch was ever about. We knew it'd be updated in some way (pop-culture references most likely), but the rumors got out of control and people got over excited.
I ended up making a FAQ because I had to clear this up so many times. Feel free to pass it on: http://www.hiracdelest.com/faq-full.htm
Also, there are other tiny edits in the books, but they aren't noticeable unless you're planning on going line by line with the original 90s version.
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I'm going to have my dad pick me up and have him drive me to the same Barnes and Noble, and the children's section is still in the same spot so we're going to do the same walk through the store and grab the new releases. Just like it was in 1998. Can't wait!
i'm tempted to do the same thing now. ;)
We still have the same book store in the mall that we used to have when I was a kid, so I did the same thing when I was picking up the relaunch books. :D
There really aren't any changes. They just fix a continuity error in book #1
So they never made it such that in the books, its 2011? Nuts, that means I can't give Ax a flat TV in his scoop and a XBox 360 to Jake or Marco. There were rumors about the series maybe being today's year but I shouldn't believe them. :-\
No, none of that was ever confirmed. Doing so would have meant rewriting the series, and that's not what the relaunch was ever about. We knew it'd be updated in some way (pop-culture references most likely), but the rumors got out of control and people got over excited.
I ended up making a FAQ because I had to clear this up so many times. Feel free to pass it on: http://www.hiracdelest.com/faq-full.htm
Also, there are other tiny edits in the books, but they aren't noticeable unless you're planning on going line by line with the original 90s version.
You guys on the other side of the world are lucky to have them. I have a feeling it won't come for another week to Singapore. :orly:
Thanks for clearing that, Essam. Now I shall go bury my head in the sand for believing those rumors and rewriting my chapter. -buries her head and screams in a muttered voice-
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i saw them at barnes and nobles. they're expensive! and smaller than i remembered them to be. is the print bigger?
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i saw them at barnes and nobles. they're expensive! and smaller than i remembered them to be. is the print bigger?
Maybe a bit.
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I haven't seen them in person, but I don't mind the pictures I've seen of the covers. They're different than the old ones, and that's not a bad thing. I do think that's it's kind of odd that they're re-releasing them so slowly, but I guess I do see the point that someone mentioned earlier that they're testing the waters. That makes sense. Honestly, I was half-tempted to buy them when they were started being re-released, but I already have the entire series (and yes, I do mean the entire thing, side-books included, even both Alternamorphs). So, that doesn't make any sense to me. I can't afford to start buying them again, anyway. I spent a long time getting the collection together, and I'm happy with it.
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One question: is the new covers like the old ones? When you open the front cover, do you get a 2nd picture before the text?
...I have no idea if THAT even makes sense. =_=;
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There is no inside cover illustration, sadly. It would have been a great opportunity for them to illustrate new and different scenes from the ones depicted back in '96. (1: Lizard in locker; 2: Fluffer McKitty on doorstep, ect.)
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Just read "My name is Jake." for the first time on paper in about 9 years
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There is no inside cover illustration, sadly. It would have been a great opportunity for them to illustrate new and different scenes from the ones depicted back in '96. (1: Lizard in locker; 2: Fluffer McKitty on doorstep, ect.)
Noooooooooooooooooo oooo! All my fanart covers are in vain!
Ah well, guess I'll just do them as the old version and not the new ones. :bored:
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the holes in the front were interesting, but at least we don't have to worry about our books ending up like #3's cover.
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What was wrong with #3's cover? Was the hole for the hawk image too big, and the cover tore easily? There were other covers with larger holes, right? Hmm... maybe that is the biggest cover hole.
And Vickie1, what exactly do you mean?
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I've yet to see a copy of book 3 where the inside cover wasn't torn off :dull:
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What was wrong with #3's cover? Was the hole for the hawk image too big, and the cover tore easily? There were other covers with larger holes, right? Hmm... maybe that is the biggest cover hole.
the size doesn't matter - the location of the wing was too close to the edge of the cover.
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Speaking desigh flaws, is anyone elses lenticular box on the Visitor slightly-sideways.
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Yes! Mine is! I hope that isn't terribly common.
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I've yet to see a copy of book 3 where the inside cover wasn't torn off :dull:
I should take a picture of mine, then! XD
My book 15 is my most torn up one, but that's because it was the first one I got, so it's had more days of getting shoved in my bookbag than the rest of them.
40 is pretty bad, too, but it's because of a manufacturer's deffect. They didn't use enough glue, so the cover comes right off.
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I love the lenticular covers, but I feel like you have to hold the book at a really weird angle to see the starting and ending images clearly. Did anyone else see that?
Also, The Invasion was in my sister's Scholastic book fair flyer, except the caption said "Cover changes from boy to alien!" Ha.
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Lol wow. I remember similar mistakes back when the original books were being published
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I love the lenticular covers, but I feel like you have to hold the book at a really weird angle to see the starting and ending images clearly. Did anyone else see that?
Sometimes if you look at the book directly from the side or upside-down in the right light, you can see the complete and whole end image(s).
Additionally, you can get the individual images if you press "Print Screen" on your keyboard at just the right moments here:
(http://www.hiracdelest.com/images/books/relaunch/animations/am01/am01animation.gif)
http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/01.htm (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/01.htm)
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I wanna see the new morphing sequence for Tobias.
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I love the lenticular covers, but I feel like you have to hold the book at a really weird angle to see the starting and ending images clearly. Did anyone else see that?
Sometimes if you look at the book directly from the side or upside-down in the right light, you can see the complete and whole end image(s).
Additionally, you can get the individual images if you press "Print Screen" on your keyboard at just the right moments here:
There's no need to go through all that trouble. I posted the frame by frame a long time ago:
(http://www.hiracdelest.com/images/blog/relaunch/bk1morph/fullmorph-thumb.jpg)
Bigger version at: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=1393
It'd be nice if Scholastic released the animations for #2 and future books as well. I'd love to make more of these things.
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Oh yeah! I had forgotten about that particular blog post!
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Sometimes if you look at the book directly from the side or upside-down in the right light, you can see the complete and whole end image(s).
Additionally, you can get the individual images if you press "Print Screen" on your keyboard at just the right moments here:
(http://www.hiracdelest.com/images/books/relaunch/animations/am01/am01animation.gif)
http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/01.htm (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/01.htm)
Your kinda missing the point.
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You're kinda missing the point.
I'm over that conversation, thanks. We sorted it out.
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New Marco model.
http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/index.htm (http://www.scholastic.com/animorphs/index.htm)
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i like it :D
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Me likey. Even though he has short hair but that's okay. :D
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Neat. Not updated everywhere on the site, but the programmers will figure that out eventually. He looks kinda buff, lol! As for his hair, it actually looks like it might be in a pony-tail or something.
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Neat. Not updated everywhere on the site, but the programmers will figure that out eventually. He looks kinda buff, lol! As for his hair, it actually looks like it might be in a pony-tail or something.
He is kinda buff, but I don't think many ladies will complain about this, lol. And I think it actually works well with Marco's ego in the books about how good looking he knows he is. (Nice catch with the pony-tail btw. Hopefully we'll see it in a side-view on the cover.)
I thought at first that he was the tallest in the group, but he's just a bit shorter than Jake, and almost at height with Rachel (though it's hard to tell with the way she's posing). Either way though, I'm happy with the new choice.
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....I hate to be that guy but I'm not liking this new new model either. Sure this Marco looks Hispanic but now he looks like a grown man! I keep looking back to make sure I'm not exaggerating but...there's no way this guy could pass for anything younger than 17 or 16. And why is he so tall!? It seems like they made Marco look like how he pictures himself and not how others see him lol. And here I thought Tobias would be the hardest one to get right
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No, I totally agree. Skin color aside, I like the other model way more and personally never had a problem with that one.
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Marco's supposed to be short...This kid/guy/man/person isn't short.
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You know, it could be just of how when the webmasters got the pics of how they HAD to size them to make the page look like that.
Don't get picky. At least we got the right ethnic look for Marco. <.<
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The new model looks kinda like how Marco would look towards the end of the series, like in book 54 (year 2000). Book one was 1997.
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Don't get picky. At least we got the right ethnic look for Marco. <.<
yeah, now all we need is the right age. Or at least the right age group
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Wow..so yea I just picked up #3 cuz I didn't know it was available. When did they change the release dates? I had thought we wouldn't see 3-6 until 2012.
I love the re-launch and hope they continue to put out more of the series so that I could have both old and new collections completely. What a bookcase that would be!
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I think it was always going to be an "every 2 months" thing.
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Yeah, the dates never changed. The only 2012 releases that there are, and have ever been, are Books 7 onwards, I believe. Maybe book 6? I can't remember, but I know for a fact that 1-5 have always been 2011-planned releases.
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Huh...interesting. Where did you find book 7+ release dates? Can I get a link to check it out?
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They were announced last month.
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So, guys. I guess we're stuck with this. We complained about the first Marco model, saying he wasn't hispanic enough. Scholastic listened to us and went to the hard work of finding a new male to be the Marco model. They got a hispanic guy who's either too tall or too old or both. And what do we do? We complain a little more.
No going back now. We're stuck with this guy for the next few years. :-\
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Actually, Hotpinkcoffe was the one who got the petition started. I thought the old Marco was alright. The new guy is good, too but you can't help but pick at how tall he is.
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Yeah, if you go back through the thread, you'll also notice that I saw nothing wrong at all with the previous Marco and thought the whole Petition thing was, to be honest, completely overreacting to such a minor thing (especially since the original skin color doesn't even show on the new covers!). Well, I hope all those who signed it are happy.
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Actually, Hotpinkcoffee was the one who got the petition started. I thought the old Marco was alright. The new guy is good, too but you can't help but pick at how tall he is.
Huh. I guess, technically, that means we can "blame" her. That is, if we collectively wanted someone to blame for the new Marco. Which we don't!
I mean, come on. With that guy being as old and tall as he is right now, they (Scholastic) are going to have to get a new Marco model soon, just like they did with the late 90s-era models. When that time rolls around, we can petition all we want for a shorter, younger Marco.
The kids, in the books, are 13-16 years old, from 1997 to 1999 and a bit of 2000. (The books were published from the second half of 1996 to the first half of 2001. I'm just spewing trivia now, so I'll shut up.
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Actually, they don't need to get a new model when he grows even more. Seeing as how they're going with JUST faces for the new covers, there's only so many angles they can use with that, they just need to have him in for one day of shooting, shoot all the different angles of his face that they can get, then one or two full-body ones for the website, and then they have everything they'll need for the next 50+ books. I'd be surprised if they didn't do that, with all the models.
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Well, then why didn't they do that for the original release(s)? They let the kids grow up, and they had to keep taking new pictures of them, resulting in about three or four persons per character!
Off memory: 2 or 3 Jakes, 3 Marcos, 2 Tobiases, 2 Rachels, 1 Cassie (Biko), 1 Ax/"Phillip". Plus vauge looks at older Jake, Loren, Eva, a fighter pilot, Dude (Orson), and other unnamed minor characters.
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Because they didn't think about it? hence why they're doing it that way now (If that is what they're doing). Learn from mistakes. Plus there are far more possible posses when you use a full body as opposed to just a face close-up, and they didn't know what posses they would need that early on, especially since they didn't even know how many books there would be at that point.
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I feel kinda bad for the old marco model, "sorry kid, but the fans don't want you"?
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Well I hope that at least gets Michael Grant and K.A. to be a bit more assertive about keeping up on what is going on with Animorphs. I mean, I know Scholastic owns "the rights" but if the authors aren't able to put some input in... It is so counter productive.
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Anyone else notice how, when you click ona character other than Marco on the main screen, that Marco's name changes to "Marc", for whatever reason?
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Anyone else notice how, when you click ona character other than Marco on the main screen, that Marco's name changes to "Marc", for whatever reason?
Oh man, they did? *SIGHS* Where do I sign up for website maintenance?
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LAME.. no offense but im just going to reread the others... so much cheaper... its probably going to die like her plan to take the series to 65 instead of 54... hate to be the wet blanket but it doesnt have vampires or wizards... so its not going to fly...
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Then you obviously aren't very knowledgeable on the subject, seeing as how there are PLENTY of successful series' that have nothing to do with vampires or wizards. Not to mention that the sales figures for the already-released books have been VERY good kind of already shoots down your negative comments. Do a bit of research before deciding to be a downer debbie.
Word of warning - you come on here to make one single post, which is negative for no reason other then to be negative (and is false at that), you're not gonna make many friends here. You come across as a troll.
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I've been wondering what or where can you see the sales figures for the relaunch? I've been really curious about it.
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so since they got a new Marco model will he be the one on the first Marco book? or did they already print them up with the first model and will just use him for that book?
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I think they'll be using the first model, since he had a contract with scholastic prior to Hotlinkcoffee's little petition. Unless I'm mistaken, Scholastic changing models for the cover would e in violation of that contract.
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No, it'll be changed. There's already pics of the new cover online if I'm not mistaken.
And it's not in violation of the contract because we don't know what the contract entails. Obviously it's not breaching it or they wouldn't have changed the model to begin with, so clearly there's something in the contract that allows them to switch them out. This is just my total guess, but I'd say that they probably still paid the original guy the agreed-upon sum of money regardless of using him or not.
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Not an update, more like a nit-picky edit...
When you pick characters on the opening page at the official site, Marco's name is MARCO, and not MARC, like before.
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Just thought I'd pop in and let everyone know that I have been doing re-reads and compiling the reprint edits on Hirac Delest.
Edit lists for Animorphs #1-3 are now posted at http://www.hiracdelest.com/mission-status.htm (http://www.hiracdelest.com/mission-status.htm)
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Yes! I finally found some of the reprints in store!
Things I like:
The covers-they are pretty cool
KASU fixing! Somebody does care
Things I don't like
No inset scene/picture
No flip morphing in the corner
The price: 12 NZD!
Neutral:
The color scheme
Not as creative as the original imo, but not too bad-probably look better in a larger set
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i so like the old covers better,but atleast they changed the KASU s and stuff
i hate how they took out the flip-the-page-and-watch-the-book-morph thing and the cover quote and the inside cover and its too expensive now.$8.00 for one book, i think it might be the new cover but its still too expenstve for a 180 so paged book
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Yeah I wish they had kept the covers how they were but just with different models. They aren't that hard to do (http://aizxana.deviantart.com/)
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Another early release.
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The Message is the 1 i want the most because that was the 1st Animorphs book i ever bought and read.
And i still don't know how i feel about the covers....like my #2, the picture is already starting to "flake" off? there's all these white spots across it. like scratches, even though there's no way it would've ended up scratched
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Mine are still all fine. And the original covers were far from perfect themselves, I.E. they ripped and teared super-easily.
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Just got book 4 in today! Didn't have time to look through it much. The only outdated referenced I could think of off the top of my head was the dolphins being named after the Friends characters, which was kept in. (I suppose Friends is recent enough, and anyone who isn't familiar with it wouldn't really care all that much)
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So I work at a Barnes & Noble as of the last month. One copy of Animorphs has been sold at my store since the rerelease happened (book #3). And the even sadder part? It was Terenia who bought it.
Not sure how well that bodes for the rerelease to continue. I don't know how Scholastic expects to sell books if they put zero effort or money into advertising. People won't buy something if they don't know it exists. Are they at least promoting these things in school book fairs and stuff like they used to? Schools do still have book fairs, right?
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Once I save a bit of money, I plan on buying a few copies of each to donate to local libraries and schools... But alas, I'm a bit broke.
But I think once school starts up, they'll have those scholastic flyers, and it should be in those. That should get some kids interested, anyway.
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i don't think it was in the June book orders, so i'm not sure if it'll be in there
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Just got book 4 in today! Didn't have time to look through it much. The only outdated referenced I could think of off the top of my head was the dolphins being named after the Friends characters, which was kept in. (I suppose Friends is recent enough, and anyone who isn't familiar with it wouldn't really care all that much)
they still got a bunch of reruns on and it doesn't mean that much, like K.A. Applegate could have gave them other random names
Elmo on there just seems plain weird to me
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i don't think it was in the June book orders, so i'm not sure if it'll be in there
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Just got book 4 in today! Didn't have time to look through it much. The only outdated referenced I could think of off the top of my head was the dolphins being named after the Friends characters, which was kept in. (I suppose Friends is recent enough, and anyone who isn't familiar with it wouldn't really care all that much)
they still got a bunch of reruns on and it doesn't mean that much, like K.A. Applegate could have gave them other random names
Elmo on there just seems plain weird to me
what would they be instead? gossip girl characters?
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Reading my copy right now. The outdated reference that were updated so far are
-The "King Friday" reference in Marco's dream is changed to "falling into Sesame Street and talking to Elmo." That was useless, imo. I think PBS still shows Mister Rogers.
-Jake bringing his videocassette of the news report. Marco remarks that it's prehistoric technology and Jake snipes that not everyone has a DVR. Jake asks to use Rachel's old VCR.
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I grew up with Mr. Rogers and even I didn't get the whole King Friday thing. I can totally understand why they changed that, and it's much better now.
The VCR thing is actually really clever and quite funny, lol. Loves it.
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So I work at a Barnes & Noble as of the last month. One copy of Animorphs has been sold at my store since the rerelease happened (book #3). And the even sadder part? It was Terenia who bought it.
Not sure how well that bodes for the rerelease to continue. I don't know how Scholastic expects to sell books if they put zero effort or money into advertising. People won't buy something if they don't know it exists. Are they at least promoting these things in school book fairs and stuff like they used to? Schools do still have book fairs, right?
I would really like to know about some sales figures for the relaunch. Is it going well? Are the book selling like they should? Or is Scholastic allowing this to be such a flop that they'll have a reason to not reprint more books? Without a modern-age Animorphs revival, we'll never get that new TV show and/or movie! :'( :( >:(
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Obviously they're selling well if they just recently ordered for more of the books to be re-released.
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Once I save a bit of money, I plan on buying a few copies of each to donate to local libraries and schools... But alas, I'm a bit broke.
Just bought a set for my local public library. Next month I'll take a look at some schools to donate to.
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Very cool. I may pick up a couple copies. One for reading, one for preserving.
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DVR? I'm not liking this. It was one thing to replace references that modern kids wouldn't know about with something that was out at the time and more widely known today, but as far as I can tell this is the first reference that kinda puts the series as taking place today. Sure, you might argue DVR's have been around since 1999, but no one really knew what they were back then. and even 99 is dangerously close to the "everyone has a cel phone" era. In my mind the mention of a DVR would put Animorphs taking place in the early to mid 2000s. And you can't just introduce celphones as we know them to the Animorphs universe without some pretty big consequences, as K.A herself has pointed out.
Reading my copy right now. The outdated reference that were updated so far are
-The "King Friday" reference in Marco's dream is changed to "falling into Sesame Street and talking to Elmo." That was useless, imo. I think PBS still shows Mister Rogers.
Not to mention there's that Mr. Rogers reboot of sorts cartoon coming up. haha
Anyway, my local bookstore is like, a week away from closing. I haven't been buying the reprints but it was kinda nice seeing them back on the shelf again. Now I won't get to see them unless I go out of my way to find another book store. (the one that's about to close is in a mall)
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I wouldn't say everyone had a cell phone in '99. I know I didn't, anyway, and I was older than the Animorphs at that time. We had one family cell phone to use for emergencies and that was it.
And camera phones, which is where the real danger lies in terms of changing things, certainly weren't common until much later.
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I've not had the chance to read this, but it sounds like Jake is suggesting Marco does have a DVR.
And that doesn't make sense:
Marco was poor the first half dozen books
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Sure, but he wasn't always poor. My family had a DVR, and we were "poor". You could argue that he got one when his household had two incomes.
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Yeah, not to mention that DVRs aren't really that expensive. I know plenty of low income people who have them, as well as other state of the art technology things. And I think a lot of people here are too young to really remember when cell phones came about. 1999? Hah! I graduated high school in 2003 and I can tell you all that even at that time, cell phones were rare. NOBODY in my school had one, and as AniDragon said, the ones who did, it was mostly just one or two per household, for emergencies.
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damn.
My families not "poor"-you know, techniquelly, and I still don't think we have a DVR.
Know I'm still on VCR
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Well, some families have different priorities and "needs". I know my Senior year English teacher refused to have a television in his house at all. I feel sorry for his daughter.
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Well, on an updated book store report, I've been checking on my local Books-A-Million every so often to see how the sales of the books are. Last month, I only found ONE copy of Animorphs, "The Invasion". Went back a few days ago, 5 Invasions, 4 Visitors, 3 Encounter, and ONE Message.
I would like to think that sales here in Warner Robins, GA are good! :D
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Yeah. Here we had about a dozen copies of everything but the latest, so it seems like they sell a lot when they first come in, then they get more stock in, and it slows down, which makes sense.
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Well, some families have different priorities and "needs". I know my Senior year English teacher refused to have a television in his house at all. I feel sorry for his daughter.
Maybe, but I know that DVRs were much more expensive and rare in households in the late 90s. I was the first person out of anyone I knew to get one and that was in 1999 after the first DVR was officially launched. If Marco has a DVR the book absolutely could not be taking place prior to 1999. Even then, DVRs didn't become popular for another five years or so, until companies other than TiVo started jumping on board and including it in cable packages.
And that just throws the timeline for everything off.
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True, very true. The "update" did seem to make it less timeless and more current. I guess they couldn't help themselves. I wonder what they're going to do about the opening of Planet Hollywood? Are those even around anymore?
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(*De-lurks*) Hi guys! :)
So I work at a Barnes & Noble as of the last month. One copy of Animorphs has been sold at my store since the rerelease happened (book #3). And the even sadder part? It was Terenia who bought it.
Not sure how well that bodes for the rerelease to continue. I don't know how Scholastic expects to sell books if they put zero effort or money into advertising. People won't buy something if they don't know it exists. Are they at least promoting these things in school book fairs and stuff like they used to? Schools do still have book fairs, right?
I would really like to know about some sales figures for the relaunch. Is it going well? Are the book selling like they should? Or is Scholastic allowing this to be such a flop that they'll have a reason to not reprint more books? Without a modern-age Animorphs revival, we'll never get that new TV show and/or movie! :'( :( >:(
I'm miffed too. I haven't seen them advertised in bookstores or online anywhere. I haven't even seen them advertised on the Scholastic site! I will be interested to see what happens when school starts, since they should at least be in those Scholastic mailer things. (They still have those, right?)
Once I save a bit of money, I plan on buying a few copies of each to donate to local libraries and schools... But alas, I'm a bit broke.
Just bought a set for my local public library. Next month I'll take a look at some schools to donate to.
Awesome idea. Evangelize! I just ordered duplicates and I'll look into my local elementary schools. If Scholastic's not going to do anything then I will!
Edit: All Animorphs are on sale for $4.89 on the Scholastic site right now, and you can get an additional 20% off with the coupon code RECYCLE.
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I really want a present day version...it's obvious it'd be a lot harder to stay secret, with everyone having cell phone cameras.
I bet The Sharing would be on Facebook lol
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"it'd be a lot harder to stay secret"
No it wouldn't. There's hundreds, if not thousands, of major Government secrets that we'll never know about even in this age. Hell, if you believe in UFO's and such, just look at those, despite all the video and audio and picture evidence, there's STILL no hard proof and there's still just as many people who don't believe as there are that do. Sure, there may be a couple one-book subplots about fuzzy pictures online of a unknown person turning into an animal or something, but even then there would be a dozen commenters on that pic crying 'Photshopped!'
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I wonder what they're going to do about the opening of Planet Hollywood? Are those even around anymore?
Sure they are, I just ate the one in Florida this year.
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So the Scholastic site claims you can preorder #5 coming in December, but I did and got it in the mail yesterday! And yes, the new Marco model graces the cover.
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Sweet! You must take pic!
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See I can't seem to order from Scholastic website itself. I tried ordering The Message, was billed for it... Never came. So... To Amazon I go.
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See I can't seem to order from Scholastic website itself. I tried ordering The Message, was billed for it... Never came. So... To Amazon I go.
If they billed you for it, aren't you due something?
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If they billed you for it, aren't you due something?
I know I am! I've e-mailed and tried calling their billing department. But for them they don't see the actual order so I have to go to physically go into my bank account, find the statement, print it, then SCAN IT with proof that it is me, and send it to them.
Problem??? I'm in the hospital. AWAY from my scanner. Can't really do anything til then.
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Wait, you're in the hospital? As in admitted, or waiting?
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i found out that animorphs isn't in the book orders :(
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so they aren't gonna change the actual story part of it are they? like they aren't gonna try to make the references more modern are they? tht would suck cuz it would change the entire thing :( :-\
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So far, the only thing they made more modern was a refference to DVRs, and poking fun at one of the characters still having a VCR. I'm pretty sure the only reason they did this was because most kids reading the book wouldn't know what a VCR was.
Other than that, any other outdated refferences were more "neutralised". Like for example, instead of saying Jake had a Sega, they say he has a gaming system.
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Wait, you're in the hospital? As in admitted, or waiting?
Nope. Admitted. Been in here since last Tuesday. I have bowel obstruction of my small bowel and a bad infection within the obstruction. Might have to be transferred to Atlanta for surgery.
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I just hope the re releases keep coming. I'm sad the library I work at didn't get them. I saw them at a bookstore, but only really want the ones I'm missing from my set.
I recall one changed reference...Rachel's nickname was changed to Storm, probably since Xena was from so long ago.
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I just hope the re releases keep coming. I'm sad the library I work at didn't get them. I saw them at a bookstore, but only really want the ones I'm missing from my set.
I recall one changed reference...Rachel's nickname was changed to Storm, probably since Xena was from so long ago.
really? Storm? That's not "Just one of those small changes" in my mind.
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Where is the storm reference(s) in the reprints?
Jake does call her Storm in book 1 of the original prints-page 4- and the earliest I found the Xena reference is book 6.
Interestingly it's when Jake says that's what Marco refers to her as, but I couldn't find it up till then
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I'm not sure. Someone over at LJ mentioned it. Maybe Jen remembers.
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That strikes me as a fairly substantial change if the series does get farther than the first six books- Rachel's called "Xena" in the series a huge number of times
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This argument again?
We have absolutley NO confirmation that her nickname will be changed long term. The website says her nickname is Storm, because until book six, that's really the only nickname we see for her. So it's completely possible that the website is just waiting for the nickname to come up in the books (book 6) before mentioning it on the site.
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Yes. I say EVERYONE just breathe until we get to books 8 or 9 because a lot of culture references seem to come up when we start into the double digits.
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I'm really curious what will happen with The Reaction if they get that far. They'll probably have to make a bigger change since the Jonathan Taylor Thomas/Home Improvement thing won't be recognizable these days.
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neutralizing it would be okay with me.......but it would be different if they majorly changed it.
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There's no reason to change that one in particular- they never mentioned Johnathan Taylor Thomas or Home Improvement. It was the already-generic Jeremy Jason McCole. Honestly, he could still stand in for any girl teen fantasy of today. Like... Justin Bieber. Girls like him, right? The things that might need to change are the references to Ahnold, for example, or Scully and Mulder- how many teens of today are going to have even heard of the X-Files?
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I hadn't even caught on to Scully and Mulder at the time, to be honest.
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HAH! They're re-doing pop culture references and stuff!? :D Awesome! I hadn't looked into it that far.
I wanna see what they do to "The Warning (#16)" :D That one is amazingly dated at the moment.
I gotta know, did they justify none of the kids having a camera phone in the first book or did they just handwave it? ;)
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Handwave. Most things aren't updated, just neutralised. It's still officially set in the same time period.
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Handwave. Most things aren't updated, just neutralised. It's still officially set in the same time period.
That's much less entertaining.
That said, they're gonna have to update the hell out of The Warning. That one's more dated than any other one I can think of.
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Heh, yeah, it is, with all the old computer stuff from back then LOL.
Why do you think they neutralized rather than updating it to be set today? Too big and involved to deal with since a lot would need rewriting?
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i emailed one of the guys from scholastic and this is what i got as a reply:
Hello. Some of your questions can be answered here: http://mediaroom.scholastic.com/node/405. (http://mediaroom.scholastic.com/node/405.) The new re-issues do have some updates to cultural references.
Best,
Tracy
so i have no idea what all their going to change
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I was on wikipedea and it said that up to the 12 book or so was also getting re issued. Does anyone know where they got that info?
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It's wikipedia, most likely from a southern area of their anatomy that doesn't get much sun. ;)
Unless they list a source, I don't put much stock in wikipedia.
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ROFL....yeah, things are not always what they seem over there.
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Why has Scholastic decided to re-release the Animorphs books?
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To make more money? (J/K.... I think)
I all seriousness, they saw how popular it still was, and decided to see if it could be a hit with the next generation as well. And there's a good chance that if the rerelease does well, we might get a sequel.
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but i thought that they were only doing the already out ones
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For now, yes. The rumoured sequel would just be IF the rerelease does well.
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To make more money? (J/K.... I think)
I all seriousness, they saw how popular it still was, and decided to see if it could be a hit with the next generation as well. And there's a good chance that if the rerelease does well, we might get a sequel.
Really? ...I don't think I want a sequel. I'd rather we got a new TV show or movie if the re-release does well.
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Which I feel begs the question:
Does anyone know how the re-release is going?
Or are we going to have to wait X months after 6 is given broad release to find of if they keep going or not
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Right now, they are. There's no way of knowing if that'll change or not.
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Which I feel begs the question:
Does anyone know how the re-release is going?
Or are we going to have to wait X months after 6 is given broad release to find of if they keep going or not
its.probably not going that bad. On hirac delest, it says that #7 & 8 are also being re released
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I think they should advertise them better. Unless you're already a fan of the series and regularly look stuff up about it then the re-release is gonna be relatively unknown.
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yeah. For sure. They don't even have it on the scholastic's book orders (as far as i know)
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I think the covers suck
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That response was very well thought out and masterfully reasoned. Your input has now enriched all of our perspectives, thank you. ::)
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personally i like the old covers better. I'm guessing that part of the reason that the books are now more expensive is the cover
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I agree that the old covers look better...
The only addition that I liked was the background watermarked image of animals like a fingerprint, feathers, fur and all that.
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yeah, the fingerprints and stuff like that are awesome, but if they're going to do all 54 books, then it'll get hard to decide what to put on the background towards that last few books if they don't want to repeat anything
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I'm not sure which I like better...the holographic stuff is cool too.
I didn't realize the price went up. Isn't it also because prices of everything keep going up?
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I'm yet to see the cover in person so I don't really have a fully educated opinion on the holographic part of the cover but from the look of the static pictures and that one gif in this thread I have to say I prefer the originals. That said, given the nostalgia with witch I regard the series it probably wouldn't mater how good the re-issue covers may be.
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Meh, I like the new holos, but I miss the cool quotes and the cool insert pictures just after the cover. They were like an inside look as to what to expect of the book. Also I hope that they move on to full body holos, that'd be even cooler.
I think the watermarks would be good to use to help identify at quick glance who's narrating the book. Though as long as they design the future watermarks on the animal in the holo, they should do well in not repeating marks.
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Well, as far as the covers go, they DO do the job of grabbing people's attention. A friend of mine was over, and I had the new books facing outwards on my book shelf. When she passed by them, she did a double take, then exclaimed "Holy crap, hollographic covers that actually WORK?!"
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personally i like the old covers better. I'm guessing that part of the reason that the books are now more expensive is the cover
Naw. Pretty much all books are more expensive now. It's been ten years. All the full size paperbacks that used to be 7.99, for instance, are now 9.99
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Is there a comprehensive list of all the edits and changes for all the books released so far?
If so can I has link?
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There is. Someone posted a link in this thread but I forgot on what page and the link to it as well. =x
But the changes aren't a lot.
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Is there a comprehensive list of all the edits and changes for all the books released so far?
If so can I has link?
#1 The Invasion (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/01.htm)
#2 The Visitor (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/02.htm)
#3 The Encounter (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/03.htm)
That's all that's been posted so far. You'll have to scroll down a bit.
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Is there a comprehensive list of all the edits and changes for all the books released so far?
If so can I has link?
#1 The Invasion (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/01.htm)
#2 The Visitor (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/02.htm)
#3 The Encounter (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/03.htm)
That's all that's been posted so far. You'll have to scroll down a bit.
those changes aren't so bad. it might be better actually 'cause they're fixing the spelling and grammar mistakes and now the references are easier to understand w/out being completely changed
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FYI, the Animorphs #4 relaunch edit list (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/04.htm) is now up on Hirac Delest.
personally i like the old covers better. I'm guessing that part of the reason that the books are now more expensive is the cover
Naw. Pretty much all books are more expensive now. It's been ten years. All the full size paperbacks that used to be 7.99, for instance, are now 9.99
Exactly, inflation would have priced the books exactly as they are right now. The books were $4.99 U.S/$5.99 CAN when the series ended, so they would still have been $6.99 U.S/$7.99 CAN now.
The only thing they probably did was cut the extras, like the flipbook animation, to meet the cost of lenticular printing at that price range. And with so much effort being put into the animated morphing covers, it doesn't make sense to have flipbooks as well. So I can see why they dropped them.
Since I have all the old books anyway, I don't see this change as a bad thing. The lenticular morphing covers/edits and updates give me more of a reason to pick up the new versions.
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hahaha, my school's internet blocker doesn't block RAF, but it blocks Hirac Delest because it is apparently categorized as "games". *shakes head* So weird.
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Why is the re-release book one 14.99 on Itunes when the hard copy books are only like 7.99? They're robbing us digitally!
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I'm looking at the back of book 8, and I wonder if they're going to do things like add bookmarks and decals and such this time around.
My guess it no, but it'd be interesting to see
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Why is the re-release book one 14.99 on Itunes when the hard copy books are only like 7.99? They're robbing us digitally!
Wow. I expected it to be cheaper in digital format. No paper.
I wanted to buy #5 today, but my mom won't let me :'(
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Target has the books now, I saw them yesterday :) I just am not sure I can see getting them when there weren't any huge changes from the copies I already have.
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getting them encourages scholastics to release more though. If sells are going well, then naturally they want to release more to make more money
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I am just DYING waiting for the #8 cover. Like I google to see if it was released every day dying.
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you can also check Hirac Delect (http://hiracdelest.com). They have pretty up to date info on Animorphs
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ahh dammit.
I just hit that link I scrolled down and saw the contest thing.
My first thought was that dumb, it's probably for kids, and I don't write well anyway.
Then I thought, well the topic is certainly up my alley, maybe, just maybe....
then I saw the age limit
and thought dammit! Not fair
oh well.
Looking at the back of my #8, and Ax's eating advice: I wonder if any of the reprints will include bookmarks or decals or any of the fun stuff that was thrown in now and again
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Yeah, i got mad because the contest was only for Americans. I'm within the age group, just not the area :'(
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This is possibly the wrong place to ask this, but it was the most likely thread I could find. I'm out of the loop on the re-releases, so I had a few questions I wanted to ask.
1) How many are out now and how many more are announced as definitely coming out?
2) Do we have any idea how well they've been selling?
3) Where can you FIND these, like an in-store situation? I can't for the life of me find them anywhere.
4) For that matter, how come Scholastic's book orders don't ever seem to have them? I work for a teacher who gets me the book orders but I haven't seen a one yet.
5) Also, out of curousity, do the re-release copies keep the flipbook morphing, or is it just the morphable cover now?
Thanks in advance for any help guys. ^_^
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1) #1-5 have been released, six is set to come out in March, and word is 7 and 8 are supposed to come out. Don't know where MM1 is in that line up
2) Don't know
3) I have seen a very few in stores, and even that wasn't in this country, but seeing how so many book stores are going under I think you'll be lucky to find them. Online orders around through.
4) Because they don't love Animorphs like we do
5) No more flip book, or inside cover pic. That made me sad
This site tends to keep up the updates pretty well
http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/ (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/)
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2) Yeah, we don't know any actual numbers for sales, but one would have to assume they're selling about as well as Scholastic was hoping. Otherwise, I don't think they'd continue releasing the series.
3) I work at a Barnes & Noble. We've been receiving all of the books, but there is no special display or advertising of any kind being done for them in-store. You have to seek them out in the Young Adult Fiction or Young Adult Fantasy section under Applegate, safely tucked away where only fans will likely find them.
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I dunno if only fans would find them. The local bookstore in my home town has quite a few of each, so if you're browsing that section at all, they'll stand out just from the sheer number of them.
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About question #2, well, when I bought one of the books, the person selling them told me that they were quite popular. I think she means the re release, but I can't be sure. I asked how many were sold, but I don't think she heard me (you see, I'm pretty shy and quiet) but you can ask someone who sells them
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If you're in the US, check Target. They have them. IDK about Walmart and I never saw any at Kmart. And yeah, Barnes and Noble.
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Oh, and if you're in Canada, I know Chapters and Coles has it. I'm not sure about anything else here.
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I have had no trouble finding them. I have seen the relaunch books at Walmart, Zellers, Coles (Chapters), etc, and even at Shoppers (pharmacy store). I live in a small Canadian town, so I don't see why bigger cities wouldn't be carrying them. Ask your local bookstore to custom order it if they don't have it in stock, or try online sites like Amazon and the official Scholastic Store (http://store.scholastic.com). You can even get them as official ebooks now for the Kindle and Nook.
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Wait, you saw them in Walmart, Zellers and Shoppers? I never saw them there before. I did also see them in Real Canadian SuperStore.
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Um, sorry to side-track this discussion a little but I have a question about the relaunch. I heard that there will be minor changes to some stories. Please how true is this? And does anyone have an idea of what was re-written? Thanks.
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Small changes been made like how characters in the first run were mistakenly the wrong morph for a line or (ex: originally in book 3 Marco is mistakenly in a bald eagle morph; it is properly an osprey in the reprint), rules of thought-speak and familiarities between characters are smoothed out, and things to neutralize 90's specific references are added: generic game console rather than sega, DVR in common use and VCR's still owned but acknowledged as outdated.
But no real changes in plot are occuring. Least not yet
This site has been monitering the changes book by book so far.
http://www.hiracdelest.com/mission-status.htm (http://www.hiracdelest.com/mission-status.htm)
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Thanks RYTX. I also noticed little errors about Jakes's Tiger morph. First it's Siberian Tiger, then it's Bengal Tiger etc..... Glad to know there won't be changes to the plots.....yet.
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It looks like the Itunes thing is possibly the first 5 books, but I'm still staying away...it's confusing anyway. The small icon in the Itunes store is the new cover, but the bookshelf shown has the old covers on the books. And I can't tell if it's in English since the description isn't in English.
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Just thought I'd let everyone know that I got a chance to do a Q&A with the relaunch Rachel cover model. You can read it at: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=3869 (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=3869)
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I'm still not getting that Rachel vibe from her but she sounds like a really cool chick. Glad to know she was at least familiar with Animorphs before she got the job.
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Just thought I'd let everyone know that I got a chance to do a Q&A with the relaunch Rachel cover model. You can read it at: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=3869 (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=3869)
Oh, cool. That is awesome. :D
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I've been to the Books-A-Million here in my town and the Barnes & Noble in Atlanta (at the Perimeter Mall) and it seems like it is quite popular. Always the latest book has the fewest there. Always like one or two of #5. I see it as a good sign.
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I got the re-release of #6 in the mail the other day, and finally had a chance to look through it.
It's official, Rachel is still Xena!
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I got the re-release of #6 in the mail the other day, and finally had a chance to look through it.
It's official, Rachel is still Xena!
And there was much rejoicing.
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lol. It makes me think of TV Tropes. "And The Fandom Rejoiced".
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.....Who's up for braving TV tropes to add it?
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I did :) I go there every day anyway. Done a lot of edits on the shows I watch by now.
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Some changes are noticeable without line-by-line. Marco saying "This is perilous stuff!" is out of character. Not that "This is radical stuff!" was really in character for Marco I don't think but "perilous"? Even though I wouldn't doubt he knew what it meant, I don't think he'd actually use it really.
But yeah, the changes are innocuous. Sometimes I see a grammar error catching over to both books which gets irritating (simply because I want them to do well!), like a misplaced thought-speak mark or whatever.
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"This is perilous stuff?" Really? :orly:
In other news, why hasn't the book 8 cover been released yet???? /whine.
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I'm currently reading the #5 reprint and laughed when Ax bought the coffee. The price was a little higher than what it was back in 1996. ;D
I'm curious how far this relaunch will go. I seriously doubt they will get through all 54 books and the spinoffs. My guess is that, at best, it will go up to #15 or so, and then they will say something like "learn how it ends" and link to the website, where there is a summary of the rest of the books. I doubt it will just randomly end at #8, but who knows.
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I think if they go that route, they should at least go up to the David Trilogy. Or maybe up to book 23, since that kind of concludes the whole Tobias and Elfangor plotline. Hopefully they'll be able to go through the whole series, though.
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"This is perilous stuff?" Really? :orly:
In other news, why hasn't the book 8 cover been released yet???? /whine.
agreed. And yeah, why isn't the cover out yet? It's been quite a while
I think if they go that route, they should at least go up to the David Trilogy. Or maybe up to book 23, since that kind of concludes the whole Tobias and Elfangor plotline. Hopefully they'll be able to go through the whole series, though.
agreed
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I really hope they put in an addendum that actually shows Tobias revealing it to Ax/the others. I'll be really disappointed if they don't.
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But I heard that they're not changing anything except for the covers and culture update. But still, it would have been so cool is KAA included that
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The Animorphs #8 relaunch cover is finally up: http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=4093 (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=4093)
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Ooohhhh! *peeks*
Hmm... Hard to tell with such a small image... And it's probably in a "half morphed" stage of the image like the others, but... Does anyone else find he looks like Jack Black?
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I'm getting more of an Avatar vibe from it, actually. And yeah, it's definitely the half-morphed image.
Also, you can hit Ctrl+ to zoom in on your browser (Ctrl- to zoom out, and Ctrl0 to reset!)
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Well...um...I like the background...?
It's defiantly NOT what I imagined, even for half morphed images
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Darn, I want to see the Andalite part!
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I want to see the Andalite part...
Not how I ever envisioned Ax as human, something about the picture is screaming "football player" but I'd have to see it without being half-morphed.
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You guys can't see the blue on his neck? And to me, it looks like his eyes are slightly bigger than human eyes. I think it is transitioning from the almond shape to our eyes.
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....I don't like him -___-
I'm still waiting to see the full Andalite
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no stalk eyes, no tail, most of a mouth, you can't really tell how the important andalite parts will turn out.
It's at the perfect place where you can't tell if is human morph is accurate, or his andalite form will be all oddly proportioned
More importantly: September release?
Man I'm glad I already know these books from when they came out monthly. At the height of passion I could not have waited 4 months for a 150 page book
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Does anyone know how relaunch sales are doing?
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Well, I'm guessing its going okay if they're releasing #7 & #8
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Well that's good to hear they are re-releasing 7 and 8.
Also didn't know where this should go but I went to a GoodWill today and found 22 Animorphs books there for only 1 buck a piece. I only got 7 since I had the others but it was like amazing to see 22 books there at a goodwill.
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Relaunch Edits for #5 are up: http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/05.htm (http://www.hiracdelest.com/missions/books/relaunch/05.htm). Let me know if you come across any I may have missed.
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*Runs into RAF*
*Gasp* *Splutter*
Toronto. The stranger. Released.
*Faints*
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:O Last week I didn't see the book at the book store though!
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I'm going to the bookstore tomorrow just in case!
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I think Animorphs is dying where I live. It's not in the bookstore where I go to, and I haven't seen #7 there yet. Then again, it's sorta small, and I should try Chapters.
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I think Animorphs is dying where I live. It's not in the bookstore where I go to, and I haven't seen #7 there yet. Then again, it's sorta small, and I should try Chapters.
They are in Chapters where i live
I don't work in the book business, but what takes the books so long to make, all they have to do is get the old books and new covers right? It should take 4 months to make new covers, but can't they just make all of them up till book 54 since they now all of the Cover Morphs, that will take at least 1 year, and they should've done that earlier... *shakes my head* What do I know about the book business? Not enough
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Well they also have to go through and alter whatever references need altering.
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This is so cool. I wish I'd known they were doing this sooner, now I have an excuse to go out and try to buy all the books again. (Never had all of the originals anyway.) Haven't seen them at Bam though. :( Amazon maybe?
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http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=4322 (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=4322) I hope this is not true.
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I think Animorphs is dying where I live. It's not in the bookstore where I go to, and I haven't seen #7 there yet. Then again, it's sorta small, and I should try Chapters.
They are in Chapters where i live
I don't work in the book business, but what takes the books so long to make, all they have to do is get the old books and new covers right? It should take 4 months to make new covers, but can't they just make all of them up till book 54 since they now all of the Cover Morphs, that will take at least 1 year, and they should've done that earlier... *shakes my head* What do I know about the book business? Not enough
the books are having minor tweaks in the writing as well. still shouldnt take too long, but it's a valid business model.
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http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=4322 (http://www.hiracdelest.com/blog/?p=4322) I hope this is not true.
Someone in the comments started a Facebook group. We should join and spread the word.
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I went to my Barnes and Nobles to buy the books, and the only one the had was 1 copy #1 The Invasion, and it was hidden behind Diary of Wimpy Kid!
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Move them out of kids section into sci fi section?
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That is a smart idea, but I won't do that any time soon.
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I wish the store people could.
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Just message Scholastic at their Facebook, twitter, and customer service to get the message out.
I think personally, that this relaunch was maybe a way for Scholastic to keep the rights of Animorphs since it would probably are up by next year. Usually rights are held for 5-10 years and it would make sense.
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If scholastic loses the rights, can 21st Century Fox gain them and make a movie?
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Just message Scholastic at their Facebook, twitter, and customer service to get the message out.
I think personally, that this relaunch was maybe a way for Scholastic to keep the rights of Animorphs since it would probably are up by next year. Usually rights are held for 5-10 years and it would make sense.
Who would the rights revert to? I doubt it would be K.A but I could be wrong. I don't see how Scholastic could loose it, it was always theirs wasn't it?
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Just message Scholastic at their Facebook, twitter, and customer service to get the message out.
I think personally, that this relaunch was maybe a way for Scholastic to keep the rights of Animorphs since it would probably are up by next year. Usually rights are held for 5-10 years and it would make sense.
Who would the rights revert to? I doubt it would be K.A but I could be wrong. I don't see how Scholastic could loose it, it was always theirs wasn't it?
Well from what I understand from tv & film rights, it is close to the same thing. Like if Sony didn't make this latest Spider-Man movie because of their licensing rights contract, Spider-Man would have went back to Marvel because of the time lapse.
Personally, I think Scholastic probably did this because of licensing reasons, K.A. and Michael have said that they have ZERO input about Animorphs, and I think it might because of licensing rights. That is why they can't shop it around Hollywood or anything.
But I think another thing hurting the series is that science fiction is not "in vogue" like it was when the series was out. Right now everything is supernatural. Mythological gods, vampires, werewolves, elfs, etc. That genre is overtaking the market like crazy and it pushes teen sci-fi books to a dark corner.
If Scholastic had ANY chance to bring this relaunch back in full force, take a page out of the marketing of James Patterson. He does teen sci-fi and fantasy and is always on the New York's Time Best Sellers list... If Animorphs had more meat (pages) in their books, it would probably help and probably put Animorphs in the Teen section instead of intermediate readers. Two, he does GRAPHIC NOVELS of his work. Maximum Ride and Witch & Wizard are in graphic novel form and have helped. And nowadays kids would rather pick up a graphic novel because of the illustrations also telling the story.
That would be one of the best things Scholastic could do to push Animorphs.
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Yeah, I agree about the more pages thing. Maybe they can combine a few books into one? (like what the relaunched sailor moon manga is doing)
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I would agree with yunyun, but who would read a book that changes narrations every 20 chapters? Unless they make them 3rd person, which would be nice, but worse than the originals. I also agree with QIfry. too many supernatural books for teens, I remember when it was all sci-fi, but now the supernatural suthors are getting their chance.
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I work in a library and notice that very much. Most of the teen books are paranormal stuff.
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Unless they make them 3rd person, which would be nice.
That would suck, the only reason I ever got into animorphs was largely because I don't think I had ever seen a book written in first person before. Oddly enough Ive never liked reading third person books.
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I wouldn't like it either, but it would be the only way to release multiple books in one book. Unless they change narration every chapter, like Witch and Wizard.
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I wouldn't say changing every twenty chapters is that bad, it's just more of odd, since you've just finished the plot, but the book isn't over.
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Like the David Trilogy would be perfect as one big book.
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If scholastic loses the rights, can 21st Century Fox gain them and make a movie?
Animorphs might be different because it was written on commission (correct?). But usually, film rights are retained by the author/agent to be sold separately, in order to give the author a chance for a bit more money (writers make practically nothing).
Well from what I understand from tv & film rights, it is close to the same thing. Like if Sony didn't make this latest Spider-Man movie because of their licensing rights contract, Spider-Man would have went back to Marvel because of the time lapse.
Personally, I think Scholastic probably did this because of licensing reasons, K.A. and Michael have said that they have ZERO input about Animorphs, and I think it might because of licensing rights. That is why they can't shop it around Hollywood or anything.
But I think another thing hurting the series is that science fiction is not "in vogue" like it was when the series was out. Right now everything is supernatural. Mythological gods, vampires, werewolves, elfs, etc. That genre is overtaking the market like crazy and it pushes teen sci-fi books to a dark corner.
If Scholastic had ANY chance to bring this relaunch back in full force, take a page out of the marketing of James Patterson. He does teen sci-fi and fantasy and is always on the New York's Time Best Sellers list... If Animorphs had more meat (pages) in their books, it would probably help and probably put Animorphs in the Teen section instead of intermediate readers. Two, he does GRAPHIC NOVELS of his work. Maximum Ride and Witch & Wizard are in graphic novel form and have helped. And nowadays kids would rather pick up a graphic novel because of the illustrations also telling the story.
That would be one of the best things Scholastic could do to push Animorphs.
Rights are always retained by the holder, they're just leased out. For books, it's usually stated in the contract that after X years of the book being out of print, the rights revert back to the author, who can then attempt to sell the rights again. As I understand it, Spider-Man is owned by Marvel. Sony paid royalties for the right to use the material. They didn't "own" the rights at any point (they really didn't "lease" the rights in the same way as a book publisher would from an author, either, because movies are distributed very different, obviously).
In this case, if I understand the situation, KA was commissioned to write the books and the rights belong to Scholastic as the "originator", not with the author. So, they aren't "lending" the rights, they own the rights themselves. The rights therefore couldn't revert to KA. Movierights and pretty much all other subsidiary rights are held by Scholastic in that case. I may be wrong about this since it's an unusual arrangement. But the bottom line is that it appears that it's all up to Scholastic and there's not much KA and Michael can really do.
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Yes I know Spider-Man belongs to Marvel but because of the filming rights contracts, Marvel-Disney can not in no way do their own Spider-Man because of Sony owning them right now. So that is also why we're getting a new Fantastic Four and I think Daredevil. From the same thing. The people don't want to loose the film-rights due to the time lapse.
I listen to a lot of podcasts by Kevin Smith and since he's a HUGE comic guy plus director, he talked about this kind of stuff all the time and that is how I've learnt of it.
Well it could be in whatever rights were written into the Scholastic with K.A. and Michael. I mean, JK Rowling still has all of her rights to Harry Potter even though it is being published by multiple publishers. In the films she had 100% influence of the casting, script writing, etc. So an author CAN retain their copyright to their published works. So like I said in whatever is written in the fine print between Scholastic, K.A., and Michael... The authors got screwed.
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Yes I know Spider-Man belongs to Marvel but because of the filming rights contracts, Marvel-Disney can not in no way do their own Spider-Man because of Sony owning them right now. So that is also why we're getting a new Fantastic Four and I think Daredevil. From the same thing. The people don't want to loose the film-rights due to the time lapse.
I listen to a lot of podcasts by Kevin Smith and since he's a HUGE comic guy plus director, he talked about this kind of stuff all the time and that is how I've learnt of it.
Well it could be in whatever rights were written into the Scholastic with K.A. and Michael. I mean, JK Rowling still has all of her rights to Harry Potter even though it is being published by multiple publishers. In the films she had 100% influence of the casting, script writing, etc. So an author CAN retain their copyright to their published works. So like I said in whatever is written in the fine print between Scholastic, K.A., and Michael... The authors got screwed.
Not screwed per-se. It's common for scholastic. I don't know how it is now, but back when the books were coming out, being a Scholastic publication was a major advantage. We'd get the little mailers in class and were encouraged to buy books from them. Most kids didn't go to book stores to buy, but looking through a colorful flyer instead of paying attention in class, and it being so easy to order definitely helped. I probably wouldn't have gotten into Animorphs without it.
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Not screwed per-se. It's common for scholastic. I don't know how it is now, but back when the books were coming out, being a Scholastic publication was a major advantage. We'd get the little mailers in class and were encouraged to buy books from them. Most kids didn't go to book stores to buy, but looking through a colorful flyer instead of paying attention in class, and it being so easy to order definitely helped. I probably wouldn't have gotten into Animorphs without it.
I miss those school days. They always came into my language arts class. Always took them to my Mom and she always threw down money for books. She has glad I was into books more than dolls. I wouldn't have started my awesome reading words per minute if it hadn't started with Animorphs.
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Has anybody actually seen #8 yet? It's supposed to be out but I've not seen it. My Barnes and Noble has gotten each of the relaunch books 2 weeks before its release date, and they don't even have it yet. Amazon doesn't have it in stock either so I'm starting to wonder if something is going on...
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I haven't. Interesting to see I'm not the only one with the problem.
Neither the Barnes and Noble I went to in Minnesota (before the release date) and the one nearby me (after the release date) had them. I was a little depressed. I was really looking forward to reading this one above all of the relaunch books since I am a fan of Ax. Anyone finding similar situations at different bookstores?
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Ya, I went to Books-A-Million to check on the new arrivals and to see on my copy and was told that Books-A-Million cancelled my copy but didn't refund me. Sooo... Ya. *fumes*
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I haven't seen Animorphs in the local bookstores for a long time. The last book I saw out was #6
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Hmms, if the goal was to see if there was enough interest to continue the series, I think what would have made more money was to just continue the series, then all of the old fans would be hooked right off the bat. Then you could sell E-books for any new fans that want to read the originals.
Oh well, I guess fanfic will have to do. :(
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I still wonder if it would have gone differently if Scholastic had completely overhauled and updated the series, or if it wouldn't have made a difference. I can see some kids being a little turned off by the lack of all the stuff they're used to, like tablets and smartphones and Facebook, but I can also attest to how paranormal and fantasy series seem to dominate today...they're all over at the library where I work.
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I still wonder if it would have gone differently if Scholastic had completely overhauled and updated the series, or if it wouldn't have made a difference. I can see some kids being a little turned off by the lack of all the stuff they're used to, like tablets and smartphones and Facebook, but I can also attest to how paranormal and fantasy series seem to dominate today...they're all over at the library where I work.
Well see, you hit a BIG point there. Paranormal/Fantasy has taken over in books. And now NOVELS are more in vogue than chapter books for kids, IMO.
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So I'm guessing the re-release was the fail that I thought it would be -____-
*still hoping we get a film or second attempt at a show in the future*
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This might seem weird but I'm glad the re-release failed. It just wasn't Animorphs with the changes and new covers.
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I never did pay close attention to when the rerelease was happening, or what all the changes were. aside from the covers, which I knew about. What other changes did they make?
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No more cover quotes, no more flip book thingies, and updated the book. I think that's about it
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I think the "update" or "editing" that was done was the only thing I didn't really have a problem with. I mean it did make me miss the original published ones with all it's quirks and "bloopers", but with this at least it stuck closer to the rules KAA had pretty much wanted.
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What updates were in the books that got re released? I read something about updating some things to be current and not so old school :XD:
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Does anyone have a copy of the Alien re-release, or did Scholastic never get around to releasing it?
If someone DOES have a copy, could you do me a favour and post it some how so I could see the Andalite model? It's driving me mad :P