Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: CounterInstinct on July 18, 2008, 08:19:57 AM
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I vaguely remember a book (I think it was written by Stephen King...) where he killed a dog. A simple dog. Not part of the plot whatsoever. Yet, when he "killed" the dog, he got a lot of hate mail.
I kinda remember Rachel-death then the hate mail.... what is it with dying characters anyway?
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hmm...let me think for a minute...maybe 5 minutes...maybe 10 years (hehe)...nope I don't really know, but I guess I'd do it too, except I didn't realize you could send mail to the authors before, and by the time I did know, I had grown...I guess neutral to characters dying...it's hard to explain...
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When you get really into a story, you connect with the characters and therefore pity them when they get killed off. That's how I can tell when I'm really into a series.
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Stephen King writes adult horror movies and junk, right? I wouldn't care if a random dog died in some book, just like I don't care that much that the auxilary animorphs all died. I think it was wasted potential, but beyond that I don't really care.
Rachel isn't even one of my favorite Animorphs, but I felt for her enough that I hated that she died. Of course, Rachel dying is just part of what made the ending really bad.
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I hated her dying too, but that doesn't mean the ending was bad itself. The writing was good, but it made me feel bad. There is the difference. Doesn't the fact that it makes you feel sad and remorseful make it a good piece of letterchure? ;D
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isn't it spelled literature?
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I know, that supposed to be a joke LOL... :D
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I hated her dying too, but that doesn't mean the ending was bad itself. The writing was good, but it made me feel bad. There is the difference. Doesn't the fact that it makes you feel sad and remorseful make it a good piece of letterchure? ;D
It just didn't have the magic that the earlier books did. Late in the series, the magic that drew me in started dying. I wasn't in love with the series as much as I was at first. Then the last book came out, and there were so many things that I thought should have been done differently.
She tried protraying Rachel as a two dimensional character in the books she narrated, but eventually treated her as a one dimensional character by acting like she wouldn't be able to lead any kind of decent life after the war. She just can't have all six characters live through so much, then cheaply kill off one and expect me to swallow that.
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um...actually it's not can't expect. She can do that. What you're trying to say is she shouldn't expect. Although, I think she should expect that, although that's just me...
and how did this thread suddenly become another thread to talk about the ending?
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sorry for the OT, but, I see your point Daphnes... except for one thing, I don't think that is the reason Rachel was killed of by K.A...
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The topic is about people getting upset over characters dying. Or even anything dying, since it's said the dog wasn't even important to the plot.
I heard that R. L. Stine, the author of Goosebumps, wrote a book where someone died in it. The fans went ballistic, and he never did that again. I don't remember where I heard or read that.
And sorry for rehashing the ending too much. I've been stuck on that ever since it happened. If I haven't gotten over it by now, I suspect I never will.
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here's my opinion:
I think it's good that you care about a series/book that much. However, I don't think you should bother the author with things you don't like. You don't like it, don't read it. Don't complain (yes I see it as complaining even if you don't) about it. Like me, I don't like seeing gore and blood and stuff. But do I go to the producer or writer or director (or whoever is in charge) about it? no. I just stop watching it.
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I remember when the 7th HP book came out they were talking on the morning news shows about how to help the trauma your kids would surely get when it hit them that there'd be no more HP. If their going to suffer trauma from this, they got bigger problems than that! ;D
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I remember when the 7th HP book came out they were talking on the morning news shows about how to help the trauma your kids would surely get when it hit them that there'd be no more HP. If their going to suffer trauma from this, they got bigger problems than that! ;D
That's nothing to scoff at. It took me a good year of therapy and psychiatric treatment to get through the worst parts of not having new Animorph books.
Yeah...right. ^-^
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Considering all the animals he killed in Pet Sematery, I don't know why ANYONE would be mad at S.K. for killing ONE dog.
As minor characters go, I almost find it funny when they die, because it is so easily predicted.
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The Redshirt syndrome ;)
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Oh. My. Golly.
Tyler is suicidal! He's RED!!! AAAAHHH!! :o :o :o
NOOOOoooooooooooooo oooooo!!!!!!!!!
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...is this about the red shirt again? I still don't get it.
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Yes. Here is the simplest explanation:
Red shirt + leaving the ship = instant death.
Period.
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ok...so as long as tyler does not leave RAF, he's fine?
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Exactly.
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Aeh, he's just a revolutionary now. Nothing to be afraid of :)
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isn't that good news then? you don't have to worry about him not being online when you are, cuz he'll always be online.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :happy30: :hyper: :hyper: :sign0200: :wiggle: :woot2:
Also, :yawn: because I must sleep, now. G'night!
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Considering all the animals he killed in Pet Sematery, I don't know why ANYONE would be mad at S.K. for killing ONE dog.
As minor characters go, I almost find it funny when they die, because it is so easily predicted.
I've read a lot of Stephen King and I don't remember "the dog" that died. Whenever there's an animal death that's on-screen or in a book I look away or skip over the paragraph.
The point that the OP was making was that SK killed a dog for the hell of it. The animals that died in Pet Sematary died because it was necessary for the plot - I imagine that in this other book it wasn't the case.
Stephen King is brilliant but he is a bit of a weirdo. Was that one particular scene in IT really necessary? I wasn't offended by it, but he had other options. Or maybe he didn't? Who knows.
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Look, it's an interesting question...
I think, the more the character unfolds to us, the more we connect with them, the deeper we feel for whatever outcome they get through whatever ordeal they go through.
It also depends on the person...
I, personally, classify myself a dog person, my earliest memories have dogs in it. So, imagine, as I got my ticket to watch 'I am Legend' the other month, thinking "Haha, Will Smith in a stupid tryhard zombie movie, haha." Let's just say that I sure am glad mine wasnt the only cries I heard at the cinemas at what was in store for 'Sam'.
There I was, an adult man, bowling my eyes out at the movies. My friends laughing at me! Heheheh! Funny now that I think about. A Will Smith movie having that sort of impact on me!
And not to go back to the whole 'Animorphs-ending' argument but I think Daphnes summed it up pretty well. I too think the last few books lacked the 'magic' we all took the Animorphs for in the first half of the series. I am not sure if it was all just the Ghostwriters' fault. It was still KA's work. And she chose to end it the way she did.
If a book series can make a reader feel whatever it is that we each individually felt by a character like Rachel dying, it should be commended, for it's done what few series can do.