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Title: Favorite Villains
Post by: RYTX on July 02, 2008, 04:53:13 PM
Personally I think V3 is classic evil; powerful, brilliant, they make him a bit over the top later, but still he's got the villain thing down
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 02, 2008, 05:00:31 PM
Kind of a tie between Crayak and V3. They're just basically the two most villainous villains in the series.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: wolfev on July 02, 2008, 05:01:02 PM
David was pure evil and sick. The David trilogy was freaky.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: AniDragon on July 02, 2008, 05:03:19 PM
Technically the Drode, but since he's just Crayak's puppet, Crayak gets the vote.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 02, 2008, 09:30:49 PM
Well, the Drode could be a villain on his own, but I guess you're right. He does just do whatever Crayak tells him.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: morfowt on July 02, 2008, 09:33:25 PM
out of the choices, I like david best second are the howlers.

but because this is choosing our favorite villian I chose the one. I don't like to count david or the howlers as villians.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Touquie on July 02, 2008, 09:35:41 PM
I gotta go with David.  I kinda liked having a new threat to the Animorphs, someone other than the yeerks.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 02, 2008, 09:38:04 PM
but because this is choosing our favorite villian I chose the one. I don't like to count david or the howlers as villians.

I understand how the howlers wouldn't be villains, but David was a villain. He was a traitor who knew a lot about the Animorphs. That's like the worst kind of villain. He was the Animorphs Benedict Arnold.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: morfowt on July 02, 2008, 09:40:20 PM
I didn't say he wasn't. I just said I don't like seeing him as one. ok what I'm saying is the reason I like david that much, the part I like about david, isn't the about him being a villian...that didn't make much sense did it?

ok...I just said I don't like seeing him as a villian.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: wolfev on July 02, 2008, 09:46:20 PM
I can understand that. Most people see a little of themselves in David. He is the anti-peggy sue. For 19 books kids dreamed of joining the animorphs. Then comes the David trilogy and there is a character that is an audience surrogate in a few ways. However, rather than being just another helpful member of the team, David reacts like anyone probably would in that situation. That is not to say that David wasn't a sadistic little creep. What I mean is that the audience sees that they are sort of David and that they would have done the same. This gets under their skin. They wish David hadn't made those mistakes because deep inside they know that they might have done just the same.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: morfowt on July 02, 2008, 09:47:20 PM
um...my heart's say yep, but my mind's saying you're only half right.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: wolfev on July 02, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
how so?
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: ANItiger13 on July 02, 2008, 09:53:58 PM
I didn't say he wasn't. I just said I don't like seeing him as one. ok what I'm saying is the reason I like david that much, the part I like about david, isn't the about him being a villian...that didn't make much sense did it?

ok...I just said I don't like seeing him as a villian.

Oh, okay. I see what oyu're saying.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Nateosaurus on July 03, 2008, 12:25:41 AM
Visser Three I chose. Gotta love him... er.. hate him :P

I like the Howlers coz they are pretty cool.. but still I wouldnt choose them

Oh and Taylor's pretty bad ass. Love book 43, so sad, but a great book, she makes a good villain.

and David was a cool villanious character too..
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Dameg on July 03, 2008, 04:57:43 AM
The Drode is too funny ^_^ I like it because he's fun. Even if the baddest bad of the story is Crayak... But we vote for our favorite, and my favorite, I think in this list, is the Drode.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: musicman88 on July 03, 2008, 08:41:27 AM
Taylor is a psychotic psycho-****; what's not to love?
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: blackcondor105 on July 03, 2008, 09:20:45 AM
visser 3 was probally one of the best
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: EscafilDevice on July 04, 2008, 04:10:11 PM
I actually thought the Drode was scarier than Crayak.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Nomad Frog on July 04, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
Oh sure steal my idea from RAF Classic.  Lol...kidding, hehe.

My favorite is still, and will forever be Taylor.  You can't beat blind, psychotic hate.

Other than that, David was the fiercest enemy (in my mind) if only because he knew their secrets, he was one of them (however temporarily) and 'fell to the dark side'.

And third I have to go with V3, just 'cause, y'know...he held in there the longest against them.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: AniDragon on July 04, 2008, 05:29:25 PM
I actually thought the Drode was scarier than Crayak.

I liked the Drode's personality as a villain more than Crayak's, but all of the "evil" stuff he did was under orders from Crayak, so... *shrugs* It's 50-50 for me, I guess.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: EscafilDevice on July 04, 2008, 08:33:03 PM
I actually thought the Drode was scarier than Crayak.

I liked the Drode's personality as a villain more than Crayak's, but all of the "evil" stuff he did was under orders from Crayak, so... *shrugs* It's 50-50 for me, I guess.

Crayak was a personification of evil and that's kind of overdone to the point that it wasn't that scary. Yeah when I think about him being this giant eye/machine thing and screaming it's weird and his scenes in #48 were rather frightening, but the Drode scared me because he was scary in an unconventional way.

I think that sneaky is often scarier than big and mean, which was why he was just creepy. And in MM4 when he just pops into Jake's room and is just standing there...I think I'd be terrified. Having to deal with this guy in weird places is one thing, but in your own house?

I don't know, the fact that he was a trickster and (presumably) sold out his own people to be Crayak's #2 weirds me out.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Dameg on July 05, 2008, 06:30:06 AM
I actually thought the Drode was scarier than Crayak.

Drode? scary??!!! O_O
Never feel scaried by him... He's so funny!!!
^_^' The scariers are Taylor or Crayak, I think...
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: esplin on July 05, 2008, 10:13:50 AM
taylor is my 2nd faverite, she almost destroyed tobias
and one reason i like visser 3 is that hes pure evil and hate
and thats why i like taylor shes pure crazyness and evil with some hate mixed in there
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Toby on July 05, 2008, 11:52:32 AM
I picked Tom's Yeerk. The fact that he controlled Jake's brother made the story even more dramatic, especially in final arc. There was always that threat that he would become suspicious of Jake. Even though he never figured it out on his own, there was always that possibility, which made the story more suspenseful.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Duff on July 05, 2008, 01:28:33 PM
someone should write the drode chronicles, i bet he could have a cool story, like an evil silver surfer

my favorite is still david, that personal aspect just made him so exciting to read and he was so realistic and yet so freakin evil, love it
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: SageKiller on July 05, 2008, 02:08:40 PM
I always liked Visser 1. It seemed to me like she was never really evil, just really ruthless in following her mission. And even when she was cooperating with the good guys to help herself, she never really turned traiter and hurt her people, not like David did anyway.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: EscafilDevice on July 05, 2008, 08:10:09 PM
I always liked Visser 1. It seemed to me like she was never really evil, just really ruthless in following her mission. And even when she was cooperating with the good guys to help herself, she never really turned traiter and hurt her people, not like David did anyway.

Visser 1 was crazy. Remember how she wanted to put a Yeerk into her daughter's brain to "make her love her"?
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: SageKiller on July 05, 2008, 09:37:44 PM
I always liked Visser 1. It seemed to me like she was never really evil, just really ruthless in following her mission. And even when she was cooperating with the good guys to help herself, she never really turned traiter and hurt her people, not like David did anyway.

Visser 1 was crazy. Remember how she wanted to put a Yeerk into her daughter's brain to "make her love her"?

Well she just wanted to be loved and unfortunately she didn't see any other alternatives. I don't think that makes her crazy, just desperate.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: sherrilina on July 05, 2008, 11:30:59 PM
I picked Tom's Yeerk. The fact that he controlled Jake's brother made the story even more dramatic, especially in final arc. There was always that threat that he would become suspicious of Jake. Even though he never figured it out on his own, there was always that possibility, which made the story more suspenseful.
Exactly!  I'm so glad KA picked Tom's Yeerk to be the central villain of the final arc/battle, it made it all so much more epic and tragic....

Here's my answer from the classic forum:

I love Tom's Yeerk, who is so evil and ambitious, yet sarcastic and funny and clever (more son than Visser 3 at least!).....I mean, check out these lines!

Quote:
<Shut up, Yeerk,> she said. <You're not my
cousin. You're a snail living inside my cousin's
head.>

"Snail? Oh, I'm wounded," the Yeerk inside
Tom answered.


Quote:
"You seem to be experiencing some engine
trouble, Visser," Tom gloated.


and my fave:

Quote:
Tom's face smirked. "Little brother, you've got to know by now: Wars aren't won with clean hands."


And then there's the whole added dimension of being Jake's brother's body, and thus harder/more traumatizing to kill, and being able to REALLY get to Jake and taunt him, using inside knowledge.....

Though Visser 3 could be funny with a very dry sense of humor, he was often too cartoonish for my liking, like Lord Voldemort, though with more depth! wink I did like learning more about him in TAC and the HBC.....but I agree with Visser One that he was often not the sharpest tool in the shed.....

I also wasn't very fond of David--he just annoyed me....

Second to Tom comes Visser One--she was a badass and awesome villain, very intelligent and could be heartless, but still had heart and complexity--I loved her story in "Visser," and always thought she was the most interesting to read about.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Dameg on July 06, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
Now I'm re-reading the 2 last books, I really like Tom's Yeerk too... but it's too sad that he doesn't appear very often and we don't know his name!!!
Really, he's funny, and intelligent (if he didn't work with Esplin 9466, he would become Visser...)!! So I'd like to see him more in the serie...
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Hunter on July 08, 2008, 06:52:46 AM
Visser 3... no challenge peepz
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: SuperBlue on July 08, 2008, 03:57:42 PM
It's a 3 way tie between David, Visser 1, and Visser 3
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on July 08, 2008, 04:00:00 PM
Visser Three was cool. Sometimes his "evilness" was a little over the top, but, yeah, he was cool. Taylor was crazy. I liked her. And then David... David creeped me out.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: TinShadowcat on July 17, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
David, Hands-Down. He's just a sick, twisted, weak human being
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: TobiasLuvr on July 18, 2008, 09:46:36 AM
I like V3, he used to be Alloran, and Andalites are awesome >D
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Phoenix004 on July 18, 2008, 11:11:01 AM
I'd probably say Visser Three or David, but I voted for David because he had less votes.

As a person, I hated David more than anyone in the series. As a villain, he was one of the most interesting, because he wasn't an evil alien slug hell bent on world domination, he was just a kid. A kid who was twisted by a series of cruel events in his life. He was a ruthless and cunning villain, but like most villains he was also arrogant, which led to his downfall. I guess the main reason I liked him as a villain was because it showed that you didn't have to be a Yeerk to be evil, humans are more than capable of doing terrible things.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: TinShadowcat on July 18, 2008, 05:05:40 PM
ummm... yeah, what he said
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: CounterInstinct on July 19, 2008, 02:24:01 AM
Of all the villains, David affected me the most. It was hard for me to read the trilogy because his evil was penetrating the very book! He was the most dangerous of the villains, mostly because he was once an Animorph himself.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Estelore on July 20, 2008, 01:19:33 PM
The Drode was always my favourite, but Visser Three followed closely in second place. I love the wild-card, improbability+uncertainty involved with The Drode. V.3. was a bit...anti-intellectual...but he and The Drode both remind me of The Joker in Batman: scary simply because you can't know what they'll do next. The only thing that you know for certain is that they will enjoy your death, however it comes to you.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: zaprowsdower on July 20, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
How come I'm the only one who voted for the Helmacrons? They were awesome! :D
Especially in 42, where they proved how deadly they really were and taught the gang a lesson on not judging your enemy by appearance :)
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Dameg on July 20, 2008, 03:46:56 PM
Yeah! Yeah! The Drode looks like the Joker!! So true! It's why I like him ^_^
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: morfowt on July 20, 2008, 05:23:05 PM
How come I'm the only one who voted for the Helmacrons? They were awesome! :D
Especially in 42, where they proved how deadly they really were and taught the gang a lesson on not judging your enemy by appearance :)

book 42 was pretty good. would've been awesome if it didn't have helmacrons.

I hate the helmacrons. they have way too big egos. a big ego is fine. it makes the villain funny when they lose...well a little funny. Too much ego is just stupid.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Estelore on July 20, 2008, 05:27:36 PM
Are you calling me stupid?!! :explode: :fighting0071: >:(




















 ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: morfowt on July 20, 2008, 05:30:25 PM
no. cuz you don't have too much ego.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: zaprowsdower on July 20, 2008, 05:32:04 PM
Are you calling me stupid?!! :explode: :fighting0071: >:(




















 ;)
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Liz on July 21, 2008, 02:58:50 AM
Taylor is my favorite. She had a great backstory.  And...

TOBIAS/TAYLOR=OTP
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Gafrash on July 21, 2008, 10:13:17 PM
I am going to have to go with that old lady Controller in that lab in The Diversion... She even got in the helicopter and almost machine gunned Tobias and his mother...!!! Vague memories of scary laughter! For a side villain, she stayed pretty up there for staying imprinted in my mind.
The Yeerk in that head was just nasty! AND survived in the end...
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Animorphsjake on July 22, 2008, 10:54:55 AM
but because this is choosing our favorite villian I chose the one. I don't like to count david or the howlers as villians.

I understand how the howlers wouldn't be villains, but David was a villain. He was a traitor who knew a lot about the Animorphs. That's like the worst kind of villain. He was the Animorphs Benedict Arnold.
Oh lol, benedic animorph, thats gold. Yea I agree david was the worst villiaan
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Tim Bruening on June 13, 2015, 03:59:15 AM
I can understand that. Most people see a little of themselves in David. He is the anti-peggy sue. For 19 books kids dreamed of joining the animorphs. Then comes the David trilogy and there is a character that is an audience surrogate in a few ways. However, rather than being just another helpful member of the team, David reacts like anyone probably would in that situation. That is not to say that David wasn't a sadistic little creep. What I mean is that the audience sees that they are sort of David and that they would have done the same. This gets under their skin. They wish David hadn't made those mistakes because deep inside they know that they might have done just the same.

What would David be like if he morphed a starfish and got cut in half?
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Chad32 on June 13, 2015, 07:49:30 PM
Visser Three in the first few books. Until they overused him, culminating in book 9 where he's tricked and made a laughing stock. Book 1 and 2: Pretty much makes you wet yourself with a look.

I thought David had some potential as a villain. Taylor was an interesting psycho. Visser 2's cameo in the series was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Favorite Villains
Post by: Dylan on June 15, 2015, 10:49:24 AM
David or Taylor. David is creepy as balls, Taylor is straight up crazy as balls