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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2008, 11:49:14 AM »

Why Jake though? I would imagine that would make anyone who starves out a Yeerk fall to that condition, but I've never thought of the thing being starved out as:agony agony, quick view of Crayak, agony death.
Have to think there's more to it

How many people have we met that have been infested and then starved out their Yeerk? Jake is the only confirmed case we have met. The crazy old lady from Megamorphs #1 may also count, but maybe that's part of the reason she was insane!  ::)
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2008, 11:56:46 AM »
Originally Crayak was just interested in Jake because he was the leader of the resistance against the Yeerks and a part of the Ellimist's plans. After book 26, he started to really hate Jake because he was responsible for destroying the Howlers.

That pretty much sums it up. I don't think there was anymore to it than that. Once he realized that he couldn't get to Jake (MM#3), he tried to get the Drode to play devil's advocate with Rachel instead (#27, #48, etc).
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2008, 12:02:44 PM »
That pretty much sums it up. I don't think there was anymore to it than that. Once he realized that he couldn't get to Jake (MM#3), he tried to get the Drode to play devil's advocate with Rachel instead (#27, #48, etc).

Exactly, thanks Truth. Crayak and Drode clearly approved of the darker side of Rachel's personality and tried to use it against Jake; clearly without success.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2008, 12:27:10 PM »
Crayak is the animorph's version of the devil. he wanted to make jake have a pact with him and therefore having the fate of humanity firmly in his hands and snubbing the Ellminist at the same time.

i am surpised however that Applegate didn't go darker. have one of the animorphs die in the serise and have Crayak offer jake to bring him/her back at a price...

but of course this kinda of way of thinking fits the end of the serise where Rachel dies and jake either make the deal with the Devil to bring her back or simply leave thing as they are.



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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2008, 07:58:27 PM »
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How many people have we met that have been infested and then starved out their Yeerk? Jake is the only confirmed case we have met. The crazy old lady from Megamorphs #1 may also count, but maybe that's part of the reason she was insane!
Fair enough, but I still won't buy that that's standard Yeerk dying events if for no other reason then Ellimist is on the same plane of existence as Crayak, so either 1) you'd see them both or 2(and more likely)it had to be deliberate by Crayak cuz in that plane there is shouldn't be a physical form, Crayak had to project his giant Clearisil ad dream form for someone to see to see. Doubt he'd do that regularly
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2008, 09:38:39 AM »
Well it wasn't just the Yeerk dying that made Jake see Crayak, it was also the fact that Crayak knew Jake was involved in the Ellimist's plans (even though the Ellimist hadn't revealed himself to the Animorphs yet, but he did in the following book).
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2008, 12:35:00 PM »
yeah but I still don't think it's clear that the yeerk dying had anything to do with seeing Crayak as a dependent event. I'd say he chose that moment chose it was already tramatic, so lets add an eyeball to really freak out the kid, but the Yeerk dying isn't what causes it.

And I remember now there is one other confirmed starvation: book 8 as they leave the theater, the guy is screaming and hollering about Yeerks being here and freedom; nothing about "get out get out, oh no, eyeball of doom; freedom!"
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2008, 12:43:18 PM »
The former controller probably shrugged it off as a hallucination like Jake did and concerned himself with the fact that he was free.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2008, 12:49:01 PM »
The former controller probably shrugged it off as a hallucination like Jake did and concerned himself with the fact that he was free.

I don't know.  It seems more probably that Crayak intended to be seen.  I doubt it'd be good for business to be seen by every host of every Yeerk that is starved out.  And that assumes a lot of things about Yeerks including that each and every one ends up getting a visit from (or at least see) Crayak when they die.  I doubt that's the case.

I'd guess Crayak used the momentary opening to show himself to Jake.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2008, 01:06:09 PM »
maybe he just used the fact that he was on some kind of middle ground between life and death to pop up without breaking the rules by appearing in the real world

no im sure he wants to be seen by as many people as possible, he wants to be feared and all that, and its not like appearing to everybody is a waste of his time, hes omnipresent, he can appear to every dying being in the universe and watch sanford and son all at the same time