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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2009, 05:11:16 PM »
then u must not have finished the book. basically at the end of it all jake is the only 1 left alive
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2009, 05:17:39 PM »
I'm pretty sure I finished it. Marco, Rachel and Casie died. Cassie came back to life, and kept Ax and Jake from getting killed by V3. The three of them were on the bladeship bridge, about to destroy the poolship one way or another. Tobias wasn't involved in that last fight. That's what I remember.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2009, 05:18:36 PM »
thats cuz he never crossed the construction site, so he never got the power to morph, so he joined the sharing and then later died
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2009, 05:41:48 PM »
I reread the last few chapters. Tobias was unfortunate enough to be enslaved by a Yeerk who wasn't loyal the V3. So he was executed along with Odrett.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2009, 07:43:04 PM »
Quote from: Nohensen on January 01, 2009, 01:29:59 PM
I don't remember Tobias dying in MM4. Last thing I remembered, he was close to becoming a voluntary controller.

No, no. He really died. Let's see...
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Visser Three laughed. <You betrayed Visser One, Odret. Should I keep you around to betray me? Kill him.>
A Hork-Bajir pressed a Dracon Beam against my head. I felt it. Felt Odret's terror. Felt my own shock, fear. Regret.
"No!" my mouth cried. "NO!"
Felt slight pressure as the Hork-Bajir's finger tightened.
Felt --
Odret was quite a nice name.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2009, 07:59:12 PM »
I just posted that I reread the last few chapters. I stand corrected, and Tobias met his end. My mistake. Ax was about to die from blood loss if he didn't morph something, but he may have been resigned to die after blasting the poolship and possibly disabling the bladeship. Of course, V3 would have killed them if Cassie hadn't been subtemporaly grounded.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2009, 08:46:37 PM »
Quote from: Nohensen on January 01, 2009, 01:29:59 PM
I don't remember Tobias dying in MM4. Last thing I remembered, he was close to becoming a voluntary controller.
yeah but then he became a controller with a yeerk that's loyal to visser 1, and visser 3 found out and in the end killed him...
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2009, 08:56:23 PM »
Is anyone even reading my last two posts?
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2009, 09:08:09 PM »
lmao
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2009, 09:19:37 PM »
Quote from: Nohensen on January 01, 2009, 08:56:23 PM
Is anyone even reading my last two posts?
sorry...somehow I missed the last page...
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2009, 07:42:06 AM »
Quote from: Nohensen on January 01, 2009, 08:56:23 PM
Is anyone even reading my last two posts?
Whoa, I also, missed the last page.  :P
My bad.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2009, 11:39:24 AM »
Rule: first-person past-tense narrators never die.

Unless the cover says "K. A. Applegate."

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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2009, 11:41:15 AM »
I never noticed that before. I don't read a lot of first person, past tense narrations, or understand what makes something first person, past tense.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2009, 11:55:06 AM »
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I was there with Marco, my best friend.

I = first person

other possibilities:
he/she/they/name (no I, usually) = third person
you = second person (very rare, mostly limited to interactive novels)

was/were = past-tense

other possibilities:
am/are/is = present tense

The most common types of narration are third-person past, first-person past, and third-person present:

3rd past: Jake was there with his best friend, Marco.
1st past: I was there with my best friend, Marco.
3rd present: Jake is there with his best friend, Marco.
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Re: Rachel and Tobias, Would she had liked him if he wasnt trapped as a hawk?
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2009, 12:54:10 AM »
lol at the conversation nohensen is having...

...and thank you for the lesson wildweathel. clears up a lot
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