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Ok cheesy idea, but here's my idea-
After we discuss its merits, I propose that we commission the best writer here and the best artist here to work together to adapt Animorphs into a comic book format, starting with #1: The Invasion. If it's successful we can make it into a project akin to the ebooks and audiobooks.
So, what are your thoughts and suggestions? ;D
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I've always thought this would be an awesome idea, I'd lend any support I could to it.
I'm an awful artist though, I could give writing a shot but I'm def not the best here by a long shot lol
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That's an awesome idea, and I'd like to help, but I'm neither the best writer or artist here...
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Well it worked for the Warriors series, I think.
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I'm kinda like ANTI-Tiger... I can't write OR draw for crap... just a question, would it be done in the standard format, or would it be done in the Japanese manga type style (reading it from back cover to front cover)
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What style of art? Realistic or cartoony? I can do both, but the cartoony may be more consistent (and it can work with a serious piece)
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Foamy-depends on what everyone on the thread thinks, I'm not the final arbiter here :)
I suggest someone like Matt who can do anime post some of their stuff to see if it's what we're looking for.
mrlarry-show us what ya got :).
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How would the story arcs go though?
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this would be really cool if you guys did it
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Okay, I have to admit, this is a really cool idea. ;D I can't draw for crap, though.
So, mrlarry... Why don't you show us something?
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Yeah, Matt, show us what you got. Or not. It'd be helpful if you did...
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Yeah, because, apparently, most of us can't draw.
So, how long do you think we would make it? I mean, would we keep everything, or cut little scenes here and there?
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instead of having a writer, just have an editor who can take in K.A. chapters and format them so that they can written into comic forum.
and for one. i don't think you want me as a writer.. the comic would turn out look like The Punisher was featured in it.
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I once saw a comic version on deviant art, but it was only a few pages and kinda random. I think if we're going for graphic novel then we should go manga, but we definitely need an artist who is top notch and a real anifan. The story editing wouldn't be too hard, but there would be a lot of dialogue. Also, you'd have to reconcile the narration somehow. Like, there really can't be that much because that would be boring. I guess the best way would be like in the series to have a different person narrate each one. Still we're talking a huge fraking undertaking here. It would be easier to first agree on what goes and what doesn't, becuase there is probably no way we could do 54 books plus chronicles.
Also, let me remind you of the audio book failure, I think it failed, not sure. What needs to be done is a pilot one shot, like a scene from one of the books in this format. If we wanted to, we could even change the story around a little. I mean, it would be kind of stupid just to copy it all completely. Still, the first step is to find us a good artist. Can anyone recruit off of deviant art?
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It sounds like fun, and normally I'd volunteer to edit down the books since it's the kind of thing I love to do, but I really don't have any time to do them all. Why not have a group of editors work on individual books? If ten people worked on the series at once and compared notes, it would be much faster than having just one editor.
Also, I would recommend skipping the "filler" stories whenever possible if you want to actually finish the project. This series is huge. It might even be a good idea to take some liberties, too. For example, instead of introducing Drode in "The Exposed," it might be better to skip that book (which would also allow skipping "The Mutation") and have Drode pop up in the next book where he's relevant.
Before beginning, it would be a good idea to take note of when morphs are acquired and used throughout the series, especially if books are skipped. Let's say (and this would never happen) you choose to skip Book 3. Well, the Animorphs need to acquire wolves at some point anyway, so that scene would have to be worked in. Too many "Oh I acquired this off screen" moments would hurt the comics.
Re: a few of the comments about art style
I would have to recommend an American art style for this. I have nothing against manga at all, but I just can't see a Japanese style working for this series. When I think of Animorphs as a comic, I think of a style similar to western superhero comics, more realistic than cartoony. In any case, making it read right-to-left would be silly, as English is meant to be read left-to-right.
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When they say manga style they don't imply the weird reading thing. The style refers to the design of the characters. Its kind of like how Avatar looks like anime but it isn't.
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A graphic novel is something that I've always wanted to make for Animorphs in my spare time, but unfortunately, I hardly have enough spare time to do anything anymore. My drawing skills are pretty rusty too, so I'd likely take forever just getting everything 'right'
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When they say manga style they don't imply the weird reading thing. The style refers to the design of the characters. Its kind of like how Avatar looks like anime but it isn't.
I was aware of this, and I still think it would look better with a western style.
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sounds like a great idea, lemme know if I can help out in any way (can't draw very well, though)
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I'm a whiz with Paint, (program, not pigment), but my cpu doesn't like posting pics, for some reason, and it would take forever.
I can draw, but my scanner is dead, so that's out.
Hmmmn.
Ahah! I read a LOT of very-well-made graphic novels (V for Vendetta, Sandman, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, et cetera), and I know how the story lines flow. As long as we remember to stick to the source material, I could write a frame-by-frame storyboard of how the GN should run. The artist could take that description and draw is out. Of course, this would depend on my ability to find the time for it, but it could work.
Example: frame 1, full left, 3 units vertical by one unit horizontal (there are between 9 and 15 units or 'cells' per page, by size).
Frame is blackout, with two yellow, feline eyes barely visible. Text: <My name is Jake. I can't tell you my last name....>
frame 2, second from left, 3 units vertical. Fade from blackout, silhouette of tiger ears, visible. Text: <I can't tell you where I live.>
frame 3, third from left, 3 units vertical. Light grey mist/smoke obscures setting, but still allows some visibility. We can see a vague shape of a humanoid head and torso, with tiger features, like the ears and eyes. Stripes stand out bold black, despite the smoke. Text: < (whatever it is he says next)...but we won't let them find us.>
and so on and so forth.
Whatcha think?
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How about each narrator gets their own style.
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Sure!
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That's pretty cool, Este.
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styles changing would be fine for the art but not for the writing style
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So is this happening or is it just a pipe dream?
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you'd have to do alot of adapting of the story to make it work and interesting, not 3 pages of them just talking in the barn, and you'd definately have to work around almost all of the narrating, and maybe consider rewriting some of the dialogue, because the guy who did like one book that was awesome but the dialogue was word for word from the books and that could get kinda boring
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HUMUNGO WARNING:
Realise, of course, that I have Real Life, RAFipedia, and four or five RPG's going, so this very well may take forever, even WITH my typing speed of 50-85 WPM.
The best multitaskers must still leave time for sanity.
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I cant draw for sh[beep] and my writing is mediocre but I'll help out in any way I can
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Man a graphic novel would be so awesome :P
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I also thought about a "manga" or comics about Animorphs ^_^
I don't know if I can help... I only know to draw characters, and with manga style... Oh, it remembers me I wanna put more drawings on DeviantArt ^_^
I think it's a good idea, the different style for each char... But if 1 style = 1 drawer, I don't know if the drawers would be able to make a full volume... it's a big work!
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There appears to be a large similarity to the Digimon Tamers show and The Animorphs
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*nod*
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Hmmm, I don't think we should do manga, it would seem incongruous to the setting-California in the late 90s. Manga wasn't as popular there and then as now(?).
Cool, Estelore. That's an approach I never thought of before!.
We should have just one writer for each an artist-that's how comic books are made successfully, the writer and the artist work intimately in tandem so that the words and the picture tell the story perfectly together.
Duff-extensive dialogue and narration aren't boring if you're creative enough with narration blocks and art that goes with it-Estelore's work is a good example.
As for different artists and writers, worry about that when we come to it.
And yes, I agree, it IS a huge undertaking, but if RAF doesn't do it-and we all agree we should-than who will?
We can make this work, guys. First, we just need a writer and an artist.
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I wouldn't mind doing some of the writing.
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Setting it in the 90s would be awesome. The 90s had a lot going for it. There wasn't reality TV, the internet was less commercial and cartoons were still good.
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Okay. If we are wanting to use me as a panel-writer/story-boarder, we are going to have to find a time that will WORK. I've got an Architecture shindig coming up, and it'll last a week. After that, I'm playing in the orchestral pit for a summer musical. Heaven knows when I'll have time.
Ah, well. It will be seen.
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I can make the covers to the graphic novels(I can't draw but Im really good at photoshop)
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I don't mind make some drawings, but I can do everyones... More, I can do only characters, and in a kind of manga style... so I can help a little, only... and need help for the background...
But good luck ^_^
PS: I put more of my drawings on Deviant Art, but not only Animorphs ones...
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I'll try to work on my drawing skills. the best I can do are like anime style drawings is tht ok?
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If it can be drawn in this general style, I think that would be KICK ASS beyond words, for the material.
(http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/20060717/GregLandswiping.jpg)
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^^ Is that Greg Land's work? It seems like his style. His women are always gorgeous, even though they're all photo referenced.
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Yep, it sure is. He's one of my favorite comic artists out there right now.
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If it can be drawn in this general style, I think that would be KICK ASS beyond words, for the material.
(http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/20060717/GregLandswiping.jpg)
I definetly can't draw like that!
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lol, I didn't think so, but it was worth a shot 8)
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I doubt a lot of us can...Someone probably might be able to.
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lol I also can't ^_^' I simply didn't read enough comics (did I already read American comics...? oh, yes, I remember now... yes, once or twice ^_^') to try to draw like that... I read a lot of manga, I read a lot of French/Belgian "comics" ("BD" in French), so I can draw a little like them... but not like American comics about heroes... If somebody here can draw like that, with so wonderful face, body, movements and colors... well, it's sure I'll be one of the first to ask him to draw ^_^
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Well, time to get this restarted-still no one has submitted any art to look at or writing to read.
Come on guys! We can really make this into to something cool! I know we can! :)
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I can't draw worth short, and I love writing, but mostly longer novel-length stuff. A comic has to be minimal writing, and I don't know if I;d be good at condensing the Animorphs books into comic-form. I'm horrible at making things shorter, great at making them longer.
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If it can be drawn in this general style, I think that would be KICK ASS beyond words, for the material.
(http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/20060717/GregLandswiping.jpg)
No. Just no. Greg Land does not 'draw.' He traces. Which is why everything looks so disjointed when he's on art duties. Just thinking about the guy makes me feel ill.
Anyways, if I could be of help, I'd love to be involved with this. I do breakdowns, inks, and colors for this webcomic. (http://www.drunkduck.com/The_New_StarSweep_Adventures/) I can't do the drawing or the writing, but I'm sure there's plenty of people out there that could.
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I'll try to draw a page... just to see... If you wanna see my drawings, I have the same pseudo on DeviantArt...
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Good luck. ;)
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Thanks ^_^ I made this yesterday evening:
Page 01 (http://dameg.deviantart.com/art/Page001-92231755)
Beginning of page 02 (http://dameg.deviantart.com/art/Page002-92232150)
Now tell me: stop or continue?
I'm making a new thread: http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=611.0 (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=611.0)
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Dameg, I say continue, but maybe work on Marco's face a bit. He looks...almost evil....
Otherwise, it's all pretty cool!
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Will this be in BW or colour?
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I think color must be better, but in fact, I'm quite bad for coloring ^_^'
I'll work more on the drawings. I made them too quickly. Marco seems evil, I know ^_^' I wanted to show he laughs at Jake, but it's quite strange ^_^'
I gonna include Rachel and Cassie tonight.
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Oh my Gee!!! Can I just say that having read this Thread, you guys have rocked my world with antecipation!!!
The idea of an ANIMORPHS GRAPHIC NOVEL is something I've ALWAYS dreamed to have a hand on!!! It's too good an idea not to give a good enough go.
The Animorphs series was something I was very into in my adolescence. But I too never really had someone to talk about it with, like kids now days do with Harry Potter etc... So it is great to find a community such as this one.
I do love to draw, but have never sat down and actually put effort into manifesting something this big. And I also know my limitations.
I love animals, but I am a rather poor drawer of them. It's a little something I am working on. To make it work, I think we need to bounce through a lot animal reference. Anyone tried drawing any of the morphing processes yet? Without looking screwy!? It's quite a task!
For now, I am staying away from the morphings and Earth animals. Nevertheless, I have already started on some sketches and WILL get them scanned and post them exclusively here.
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(http://C:\Documents and Settings\Nadine\Desktop\ANI\Animo.jpg)
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Ok, this sounds awsome. And I'd love to help.
There's only one problem. Like most of the people on the board, I can't draw. Or, rather, I can't draw people worth crap. I can draw dragons. Currently, that's it. Mostly because that's the only thing I've bothered to pick up a book on how to draw recently. Though given a few weeks time, I might (no promises, here) be able to come up with an Andalite.
Might.
However, I'm great at editing and critiques. Since I spend most of my time as a beta for a friend of mine, it's no problem skin off my nose to beta this. Especially since it sounds AWSOME!!! Plus, according to this same friend, I'm an excellent sounding-board. So, if you wanna just have someone who can read/listen to you and respond with the occasional "uh, huh", then I'm your girl.
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Call me an country-bumpkins, but I seem to be unable to load my scans...
I've got them on my desktop but I am the site doesn't seem to have some function that allows me to load them.
Slushie Man, I'd like to know how you were able to post this image,
If it can be drawn in this general style, I think that would be KICK ASS beyond words, for the material.
(http://images.comicbookresources.com/litg/20060717/GregLandswiping.jpg)
Do I have to Signup with a site like DeviantArt to be able to link to here?
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I found it on Google Pictures and just linked to it (Hit the little picture frame icon above the smiley-faces when you make a post, and stick the link in the middle of the html coding), but if its on your computer, you need to upload it somewhere first (I use photobucket most of the time, or my Facebook photo albums), and then repeat the previously-mentioned step.
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Nice drawings Dameg. Like Estelore said, work on Marco a little more. ;)
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More again? Why don't you like Marco?... in fact, I don't see what is the true problem with him...
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Looks like this is really going somewhere. Shouldn't we tell Richard about it, get his blessing?
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Richard? I don't really know. Honestly, it seems more that we should ask K.A., since SHE is the author, after all.
Of course, his blessing couldn't HURT anything....
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Wow KA herself, I'd be humbled by being in her presence :happy30:
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Oh, Jah. Still, human is human. She breathes and blinks like every other carbon-based, sentient organism on the planet.
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Cept a living star like like yourself, right? ;)
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RIGHT. ;)
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I found it on Google Pictures and just linked to it (Hit the little picture frame icon above the smiley-faces when you make a post, and stick the link in the middle of the html coding), but if its on your computer, you need to upload it somewhere first (I use photobucket most of the time, or my Facebook photo albums), and then repeat the previously-mentioned step.
Thanks dude. So now I've signed up with Photobucket and will link the images here: http://s349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/Gafrash/
Anyone from the site is free to render them. The download may be slow, for the resolution was kept fine for printing. It would be awesome to see the result in how someone else can render someone else's drawings.
I also more recently did a quick sketch of my mental recollecting of the Yeerk pool Complex. And I was pretty happy with what came out.
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(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/Yeerkpoolsketch.jpg?t=1227052891)
HOORAY! It worked!
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OMG tht's great. Im much too lazy to do all tht drawing without a computer
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Wow!!!!! You're a very good drawer! Better than me! You should be the drawer for this graphic novel! I'm sure everybody will agree! Particulary for the Andalites, they're so good!
Don't worry for KA, I think we don't need to ask her... Many people do doujinshi (it's a manga made by fans about other manga... there are many) and we won't gain money with it.
But of course, I'd be happy if Katherine come back on RAF *_*
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:o Ok, those look awsome!!! Just had to say. And you call the Yeerk Pool Complex a quick sketch?! That's just...Wow.
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Oh, my golly. :o :o :wow:
I think we've found our official primary artist! (If you're willing.)
(No offense to Dameg; girl, I love your stuff, but this guy takes it to a whole other level!!)
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We're all a team here. ;)
Btw, we should have some kind of roster for who's on the cast.
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Well, you DID make this thread. Make a roster! :)
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Oh, my golly. :o :o :wow:
I think we've found our official primary artist! (If you're willing.)
(No offense to Dameg; girl, I love your stuff, but this guy takes it to a whole other level!!)
No problem ^_^ I know he's a better drawer than me ^_^
But if I can do critic: I think the Human characters are too... masculine. Even the girls. They have a big neck ^_^' It's quite strange... Except that, it's perfect! Gafrash should be the main artist ^_^
Another problem is that our drawings are very different, so we can't draw together on the same thing...
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No reason ye' can't take alternating books!
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Wow, your sketches are absolutely amazing!
:)
Can I help out with the graphic novel too?
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*nodding* ;D
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Whoa!!! Thanks you lot! I appreciate the good comments and also really appreciate some feedback.
I really should get started on some animal drawings... I royally suck at drawing them... And animals should be one of our key elements here!
Does anyone know any exceptional animal sites with lots of photo reference?
I really want to push this Animorphs Graphic Novel project. I've already started on a visual diary just for them.
I have never embarked on a comic project and would love to do it for the Animorphs. It was my one and only favorite book series. I carry it in my memory to this day!
I don't think my cartoons do justice to the characters... I am still trying to 'find them' using my 'style'... You can find traces of manga and ocidental style there, for I am still creating a style for myself.
I am currently working on a face for Tobias... I am really unsure how to go about depicting the human him. I know he has to have that 'wimpy' look early on and then a 'fierce sort of predator' look afterwards. But whenever I draw him with long hair he looks like the way I draw Jake and with the shortcut blonde-hair-look he looks somewhat 'not-Tobias' in my eyes... Partly because I haven't seen them in colour yet.
I once read somewhere that they are the same model in the covers and all, but to me, I think, after The Illusion, the models for Tobias really aren't. dunno.
Question: Would the colourist be using a program like Painter or Photoshop to colour in some of the sketches? Who would be willing to do that for us?
Oh! ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION too: Since we can't post the images here, Is there a way to 'restrict' the images I load up only to users from here?!
I might put a password up, so only people that been through here can access the photobucket. I want the drawings to be exclusive for us here!!!
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You should consult with Dameg, you're sorta co-artists here.
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your art is great but I always pictured the yeerk pool much bigger and also in one of the books the peers are said to be about five feet apart.
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Does anyone know any exceptional animal sites with lots of photo reference?
I cannot give you any SINGLE good site, but I am an absolute WHIZ at finding pictures online. Whenever you need a pic for reference, let me know, and I'll find you the perfect one. I stink at pic-editing, but you wouldn't believe what I can do with five seconds and a search engine. ^-^
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Wow KA herself, I'd be humbled by being in her presence :happy30:
To help out witht he novel I emailed her the link of the RAF and told her you guys were making a graphic novel. I also asked her for permission. She hasnt replied though :sad49:
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Wow KA herself, I'd be humbled by being in her presence :happy30:
To help out witht he novel I emailed her the link of the RAF and told her you guys were making a graphic novel. I also asked her for permission. She hasnt replied though :sad49:
Are u serious!? You know she has an account on here rite?
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She's in Europe right now. Don't expect a quick reply.
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And I think she's quite busy ^_^
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Consulting on the soon-to-be-mega-blockbuster, hopefully :) ;) :D ;D
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"In god we trust, That there will be a MAJOR ani movie."
"amen."
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your art is great but I always pictured the yeerk pool much bigger and also in one of the books the peers are said to be about five feet apart.
Oh, for real, the Yeerk pool complex is meant to be like under half the Animorphs' town. And if I remember correctly, in the first book, Jake described the Yeerk Pool itself is meant to be 100ft or so in diameter. And in The Revelation, Marco and Rachel leaped from one pier to another in their morphs. So surely the piers would be closer.
Also that sketch doesnt have any people/Controllers in it, so there's no sense of scale either... I've already done some sketches where there are more than 2 piers... I keep thinking with the amount of people down there, there would have to be more than 2 for efficiency. The characters only describe 2 main piers, right?!
PS: The setting and the mood of the Yeerk pool is going to be VITAL, I believe. The one place we CAN'T GET WRONG visually, I reckon.
Does anyone know any exceptional animal sites with lots of photo reference?
I cannot give you any SINGLE good site, but I am an absolute WHIZ at finding pictures online. Whenever you need a pic for reference, let me know, and I'll find you the perfect one. I stink at pic-editing, but you wouldn't believe what I can do with five seconds and a search engine. ^-^
Oh my Gee Estelore I am so going to fall back on you for this one. You're would be legend for doing that, too!
Wow KA herself, I'd be humbled by being in her presence :happy30:
To help out witht he novel I emailed her the link of the RAF and told her you guys were making a graphic novel. I also asked her for permission. She hasnt replied though :sad49:
Oh my Gee-again, you guys know her here?! Is this for real?!
Are u serious!? You know she has an account on here rite?
Whoa! Hey i just want to wave a hi to KA when she scrolls down this!!! <modestly waves a hand: "HI KATHERINE!!!">
What would she be up to now days? In Europe?! Any new series she's working on??
GOOGLE.... typing away.... heheheh.
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I could find some websites with pics of animals. Define 'Exceptional.' Like, do you mean animorph animals? If so, here's some great sites. http://www.coolanimalpictures.com/
http://www.junglewalk.com/photos/Animal-pictures.htm
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Hey, JFS16, I mean like one or two sites that have a wide range of decent images of animals that have various animals (that are in the series) photographed doing a variety of things. Like, not just a tiger posing, but a tiger captured in the wild under different perspectives, leaping, raking, climbing, fighting, roaring, crawling...etc.
But also a good site with some insects and bugs under a powerful lens...
Also, we should think about pictures for what we want the construction site and the mall to look like... Where did someone say that KA had imagined the Animorphs' town to be in, again?! We would certainly need pictures from there!
And also, props and fashion is something really valid someone brought up. I don't really know what your fashion there was like for 13-16yolds during the nineties. I just keep drawing Tobias with a hoodie... Don't know why!!!! Cassie seems pretty simple and humble, and so do the boys, but Rachel is definately someone where the visual would impact.
I am sure there would be sites like that, I just can't sem to find them.
I recall once finding a book like that at my local library, but the images were for cinematographic purposes, b/w and sort of poor quality. They only wanted to capture movement as such.
The sites you have posted are cool and I'll be sure to use. Thanks!
I'll pick the red-tailed hawk. So hopefully we can pick a sample where Tobias morphs, and I can incorporate what I learn.
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I think in 54 they said that they lived in Santa Barbara, CA. :)
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If that's true, then here is a site with some pictures of the largest mall in Santa Barbara.
http://www.weddingmapper.com/g/ca/goleta/photos/wedding_vendor/44351
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You know where you might be able to find pictures of kids dressed like the Animorphs would have dressed?
On the covers of the books O_o
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Touche! ;D
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I think in 54 they said that they lived in Santa Barbara, CA. :)
I believe that was where Jake and Marco moved TO afterwards, I could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure they weren't actually from that area, the terrain doesn't match up to the stories.
Where did someone say that KA had imagined the Animorphs' town to be in, again?!
I always thought they were up in NorCal, personally, I believe we had a debate about this somewhere on RAF Classic if you wanna look it up. I can't remember the specific area where someone said they were up there, but it seemed to have nearly everything.
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Hey, JFS16,
16yolds during the nineties. I just keep drawing Tobias with a hoodie... Don't know why!!!!
Ya think Tobias's Uncle(or aunt) would buy him a hoodie? Those can be expensive
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They probably got him a second-hand-piece-of-crap hoodie.
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The clothing they were wearing in the cover could be helpful. But I always found them a bit plain and some even a bit dorky, to be honest. Also with some of them it's obvious they were chosen because of the animal they were morphing into.
Some of the examples I mean;
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x168/Dexter_Power/416px-Animorphs_15_The_Escape.jpg) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x168/Dexter_Power/414px-Animorphs_13_The_Change.jpg) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x168/Dexter_Power/441px-Animorphs_19_The_Departure.jpg) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x168/Dexter_Power/Animorphs11.jpg)
I mean, would Rachel really wear something that the model wears here?
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x168/Dexter_Power/438px-Animorphs_42_The_Journey.jpg)
Since I am not from there, I may be wrong, of course. I am under the impression a hoodie would be something only boys of a 'skatie' or 'hip hop' sort of culture would wear... A kid 'bully magnet' might also try to wear it... and well, attract bullies... dunno... I mean, over here, in Melbourne, a hoodie is like standard wear for most boys, so it's really not an expensive luxury or something that only 'hommies' wear.
Anyway, on the topic of models, I've chosen to go with the blond model Tobias. The hoodie can stay for now. I am trying to give him a tender dreamy look and a fierce solid look for his default faces. When we colour him we should just give him a 'dirty-blondeh' (say it with a porsh accent) look. Heheheh!
PS: Why did I always pictured they lived up in Michigan somewhere???
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Well, I always thought that what Cassie was wearing on the cover of #19 was her morphing outfit.
The other ones you posted are probably all appropriate for the time, even if it seems dorky now (yes, even that dress of Rachel's) But you don't have to go with those clothes exactly, it's just having a starting point to go from.
Ya think Tobias's Uncle(or aunt) would buy him a hoodie? Those can be expensive
Yes, they can. If you buy brand name ones. I'm wearing one right now that I got for like $12, and it's really good quality.
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To solve the clothing issue just watch old nickelodeon.
Here watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLWAXQU1ExU&feature=related
Classic american 90s show.
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Alright, fair crack of the whip. Thanks. Shows you how much I know.
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Don't get me wrong I live the hoody idea. Could we at least see some sketches of Tobias?
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Don't do Tobias as straight blond; what with the covers and the actor it just wouldn't fit :(
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I agree. Tobias was dirty-blond. not straight blond.
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wolfev As soon as I can, I will post what I've done up to date.
My issue is that drawing the 'early-Tobias' resembles Jake too much. Their haircuts are too equal. However, the 'latter-Tobias' actually looks unrelated and the 5 kids look like they are 'visually' ID. Have to show you guys what I mean.
Though, I was just thinking, a cynical take on the big visual change of the cover models would be splendid touch for us Animorphs fans, don't you think?! Heheheh!
Rachel gave Marco a comment about him having his haircut. Why was there no comments for Tobias??!!
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I guess Tobias didn't look like he had a small monkey living on top of his head. xD
The clothing they were wearing in the cover could be helpful. But I always found them a bit plain and some even a bit dorky, to be honest. Also with some of them it's obvious they were chosen because of the animal they were morphing into.
I mean, would Rachel really wear something that the model wears here?
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x168/Dexter_Power/438px-Animorphs_42_The_Journey.jpg)
OH GOD THAT DRESS. I literally cringe in horror every time I see that thing, I am not kidding.
Maybe to help with the fashion, get some old 90s teen magazines from the library?
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*Looks at dress, starts writhing on the floor in agony* Oh GOSH! That is an ugly dress. Draw rachel in something that makes her look good. Like everyone else agrees, Rachel always looks good
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That dress honestly reminds me of something my mother forced on me when I was like...ten...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Terenia/dress.jpg)
Yeah...not attractive, lol. Actually, none of Rachels covers are all that great. The only time she looks remotely 'pretty' I think is in the inside of #54.
I think most of their clothing style should be pretty mid-90's casual. Jeans and a t-shirt for the boys. Probably lighter blue jeans. Darker washes didn't become stylish until the late 90's early 2000's.
The girls are a bit trickier. The mid-90's had all sorts of horrible fads. The most traumatizing of which I remember being vests. ::shudder::
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Well, I always thought that what Cassie was wearing on the cover of #19 was her morphing outfit.
The other ones you posted are probably all appropriate for the time, even if it seems dorky now (yes, even that dress of Rachel's) But you don't have to go with those clothes exactly, it's just having a starting point to go from.
Ya think Tobias's Uncle(or aunt) would buy him a hoodie? Those can be expensive
Yes, they can. If you buy brand name ones. I'm wearing one right now that I got for like $12, and it's really good quality.
On cover of #19, Cassie wear what Rachel wear usually in the books. Rachel wear black outfits, but Cassie wear colored (and not very beautiful) morphing outfits... Re-read Animorphs if you wanna be sure ^_^
Gafrash, even if the hair cut are a little the same, if we put colors, it's ok (we don't see Tobias as human very often...). But the eyes of Tobias should be softer...
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I agree, when you make Tobias for the first book, he must have the eyes of someone who has been mistreated and bullied all the time.
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Hey crew,
Check out some new scans I've loaded up... http://s349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/Gafrash/
Look for the Album: Concepts for AniGraphicNovel
EVERYONE from here will be able to view them by entering the Hork-Bajir word for 'Andalite'!
ANYONE who is willing is welcome to grab any image and colour them on in. Would be cool to see how my drawings could look!
Cheers!
wolfev, check out the Tobias' pics and tell us what you think!
On cover of #19, Cassie wear what Rachel wear usually in the books. Rachel wear black outfits, but Cassie wear colored (and not very beautiful) morphing outfits... Re-read Animorphs if you wanna be sure ^_^
Gafrash, even if the hair cut are a little the same, if we put colors, it's ok (we don't see Tobias as human very often...). But the eyes of Tobias should be softer...
Hey, didn't think of that, you're right Dameg, we really don't see the human Tobias that often. It would be cool to see how my 'long-haired' version of Tobias would look like in dirty-blond colour. Depending on the final result, we should pick him.
I totally agree, Tobias needs to have that sort of mistreated but tender appearance. I am trying to do that with him in my sketches. But don't you agree my drawings of him as such are leaning towards manga?
If that's true, then here is a site with some pictures of the largest mall in Santa Barbara.
http://www.weddingmapper.com/g/ca/goleta/photos/wedding_vendor/44351
Really wish there were some bigger pictures for that mall.
But why did I always think that The Mall was a more enclosed area... what, with it meant to have an Abandoned Construction site right across the highway...
Terenia... I can only feel for you. hehehe. But I don't think you have anything to be ashamed of in that photo!
Vests???!!! I know! I, too, agree that none of the Rachel covers look that faithful to the description of the character in terms of her fashion taste. Or maybe it's just me, with my 21st C mind and what I think her taste should be like, dunno.
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Hey, didn't think of that, you're right Dameg, we really don't see the human Tobias that often. It would be cool to see how my 'long-haired' version of Tobias would look like in dirty-blond colour. Depending on the final result, we should pick him.
I totally agree, Tobias needs to have that sort of mistreated but tender appearance. I am trying to do that with him in my sketches. But don't you agree my drawings of him as such are leaning towards manga?
Of course I'm right ;) I imagined Cassie with orange and green outfit... :droolfactor10:
About Tobias, I can't see your drawings anymore... I don't wanna register on this website >_< But I found a good example for Tobias. When I see this guy, I immediatly thought "wow! Tobias would be exactly like that if he lived longer as Human!". In Six Feet Under, season 2, episodes 7~8, a young guy, blond hair and soft face, cute and gentle... and, it's quite strange but... he's name in the TV show is... Toby!! lol I think Tobias would be like this guy, this Toby, but a little younger of course.
PS: If you wanna put your drawings on a webpage where only the people from RAF could go, I know how to do... Look: http://damegdl.free.fr/Bidule/eng/index.htm (http://damegdl.free.fr/Bidule/eng/index.htm) It's a part of my website, but you can't go without the password... ;)
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Gafrash, I love it. However, the picture of Visser three when he is ordering his minions to pursue the 'andalite bandits', he looks a bit to young, more like Aximili. Try making him look a bit older. but other then that, it looks great, especially the weapon design.
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This idea for a fan-made graphic novel sounds awesome! I can't write for comics (but I do like to write) and I certainly can't draw well enough for comics (I should make some Animorph fan art). But I would be happy to offer services for a beta reader or something.
With such dedicated fans I know the results will be awesome. I glanced at the graphic novel version of Artemis Fowl not long ago. My sister and me found it to be an abomination. Yes, from what I could tell, it stuck to the story. However the characters....for one thing Butler is supposed to be bald and he had hair. Yes, a small thing to nitpick, but the guy being bald is part of what MAKES that character. And his neck looked like he had a...tumor or something.
Anyway, back on topic of Animorphs. My point is, even the smallest details being off can ruin it for someone. Such as people like me who nitpick things to death. :P
EX: the earlier points of "Rachel would never wear that and Tobias wouldn't have that hair."
I keep bringing this up, but as long as the Andalites don't look like their wearing blue angora sweaters, I'm good.
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I can't get in.
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I can't get into it either.
I can see guys that we all got lots of talent and potential here, and can make something big. But to this make work we all got to get organized. Now, I PMed Richard and he was intrigued, but he also wanted to know if and when we had a time plan for it-when we were starting, when we planned to finish, etc. Now to do that, we gotta get organized. Wolfev, I appreciate you trying to take charge and get some order earlier, but I did start this so I should probably be in charge. Gafrash, thanks and I admire your efforts. So we need to start getting organized- wolfev and Estelore can be the head writers and Dameg and Gafrash can be head artists.
Now, when should we start and when should our deadline be? :)
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About Visser 3, I can't see your drawing, but remember that his host is a strong Andalite, like 40 years old for a Human, not very tall, but strong. And even his host wasn't a "good and soft" guy ^_^'
[...]So we need to start getting organized- wolfev and Estelore can be the head writers and Dameg and Gafrash can be head artists.
I agree. Except for that ^
Didn't you read what I wrote? ^_^' I don't know how we can mix Gafrash's drawings and mine... it's too different... and I draw like in manga, but it's an American story that shouldn't be drawed like manga... ^_^'
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Those sketches are amazing! Great job! I like the Tobias one you were happy with too. The only bit of advice I have is that when you are drawing the male characters (specifically Jake and Marco) they look older than their age when the jaw is squared off so much. Some of the face on sketches they could have been in their late teens early twenties.
I love the Rachel morphing crocodile sketch and the Yeerk Pool sketch. The Controller one is my favorite though. You just need Eva/Visser One in it. :D
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How the heck do I get into the album??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???
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could you please just post the pictures in the forum. Anyone who can get in?
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the password is the Hork bajir word for Andalite right?
You can find that in book #13 and make sure you capitalize the first letter :)
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I just saw the prints. yea the Tobias on the top right is perfect. The first cover model design is too buff. I have to say those scans are perfect though. Just wondering, how many books are we doing? Oh I'm not sure if color is necessary, unless we can find someone who can do anything. I have to say those are just perfect. Are we doing a pilot chapter to test out? You know we do the first few chapters of the book to test it out. venemousspiderwooki ee just tell me when and I'll send the script. Have we gotten a board yet?
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No, we still need to establish when we're starting and what our deadline is.
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the password is the Hork bajir word for Andalite right?
You can find that in book #13 and make sure you capitalize the first letter :)
Ah, so that's why it wouldn't work for me. I wasn't capitalizing it. xD
About color, I don't think it is essential. There's a few comics pages I found on dA that I've admired very much. They are from #26 The Attack and I love the style of the artist, as well as the sparse use of color.
pg. 1 (http://doorstop.deviantart.com/art/animorphs-the-attack-1-21142906)
pg. 2 (http://doorstop.deviantart.com/art/animorphs-the-attack-2-21142973)
pg. 3 (http://doorstop.deviantart.com/art/animorphs-the-attack-3-21143024)
So this is just my personal opinion, but I would love to see the graphic novel using a style like this. I guess it all depends on what feel you are going for. Gafrash's sketches are very well drawn (I especially liked the morph sequence and the Yeerk pool) and they definitely are a great style for a superhero comic book, which is very appropriate for Animorphs. The more minimalistic style of the above pages could work equally well.
Sorry, I don't really have a point to all this rambling, I just wanted to share those pages cause I've always thought they were awesome. xDDD
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Mirienne, I see what you're saying about the color. Those sketches look very interesting, kinda reminds me of Sin City where you have splashes of color here and there.
venemousspiderwooki ee, have all the roles been assigned yet? Thx
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Heheheh! You guys, sorry for the minor detail. But hey, KA also taught us reading and language via her books! It's literature! Capital letters for names and places, eh...
I was trying to limit my scans to only us of the community here. Thought I was being smart by figuring only tru-Anifans would know the word. But if there is a RAF special space for it, Dameg, I might actually have to take you up on your offer. But the address you posted for your site seems to be blocked.
"Fellana, dear Tiana," for the heads up for the crew.
Hey crew,
Check out some new scans I've loaded up... http://s349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/Gafrash/
Look for the Album: Concepts for AniGraphicNovel
EVERYONE from here will be able to view them by entering the Hork-Bajir word for 'Andalite'!
ANYONE who is willing is welcome to grab any image and colour them on in. Would be cool to see how my drawings could look!
Cheers!
I forgot to add here that for anyone willing to colourwork the images, I would have to send it to their email...
The resolution on the scans for the Photobucket pages were set for web and its rather poor and small for us to work on. I could send anyone the proper file.
Mr.Larry wanna have a go?
Gafrash, I love it. However, the picture of Visser three when he is ordering his minions to pursue the 'andalite bandits', he looks a bit to young, more like Aximili. Try making him look a bit older. but other then that, it looks great, especially the weapon design.
About Visser 3, I can't see your drawing, but remember that his host is a strong Andalite, like 40 years old for a Human, not very tall, but strong. And even his host wasn't a "good and soft" guy ^_^'
Thanks JSF16-dude! The Visser's Andalite host there does look small to me, too, think I got too caught on trying to portray him with a sort of a 'Hitler' moustache to his face. Don't know if my 'tryhard' statement worked. Notice the tight nostrils!?
Dameg, the Alloran in me mind is as such too, but also, when drawing an Andalite, we need to picture an Andalite's delicate and 'weaker' upper-body. (in comparison to a human) (heck, in comparison with their lower bodies, even). Not sure if those are the exact words used to describe their bodies in the series, but I keep in mind how their arms are meant to be weaker than a human's... and a human's is meant to be weaker to a gorilla's... and so on.
It's a just description of Andalites that I can't forget.
Therefore, I think, an Andalite's average physical upper-body sculpt, should be somewhat significantly smaller and leaner, than our human ones.
I also woudn't draw an average human's arms equal to an average gorilla's arms.
The weapons design is something we've only scraped here. I've seen blueprints for the various spacecrafts somewhere, I can't recall. But even if I had them, we are still going on imagination on what a Dracon Beam, a bio-filter device, a dropshaft, a Kandrona and etc look like! I've been pondering about these things. I lack the skills to make alien technology believable... know what I mean?!
PS: I JUST DON'T WANT THOSE CORNY TORCHES THE TV SERIES HAD!!! NO TORCHES!!!!
Those sketches are amazing! Great job! I like the Tobias one you were happy with too. The only bit of advice I have is that when you are drawing the male characters (specifically Jake and Marco) they look older than their age when the jaw is squared off so much. Some of the face on sketches they could have been in their late teens early twenties.
I love the Rachel morphing crocodile sketch and the Yeerk Pool sketch. The Controller one is my favorite though. You just need Eva/Visser One in it. :D
Busted! It's the one thing I can't help, is making them look like actual average teenage kids. Can you imagine how much this frustrates me???!!!
I keep in mind 'teenage kids, teenage kids, draw them like teenage kids'... And then I draw a cheek bone and "NGHARRRRGH!!" Can't helpt it! I am going to persist though! Hehehehe!
Thanks for the compliments though!
AND the heads up on Eva!
THERE ARE SOOOOO MANY CHARACTERS TO DESIGN AND WORK WITH IN THIS SERIES!!!! WHERE do we start??? HEHEHEHE!
I just saw the prints. yea the Tobias on the top right is perfect. The first cover model design is too buff. I have to say those scans are perfect though. Just wondering, how many books are we doing? Oh I'm not sure if color is necessary, unless we can find someone who can do anything. I have to say those are just perfect. Are we doing a pilot chapter to test out? You know we do the first few chapters of the book to test it out. venemousspiderwooki ee just tell me when and I'll send the script. Have we gotten a board yet?
Cheers also, Wolfev. Tobias is turning out to be more tricky than I thought he would be. Fortunately, his human self is significantly minor to the series. For it is in his red-tailed hawk form that he is The protagonist hero we all love and think he rules!!!! Hehehehe!
And this is also something I have to work on. Did you see how bad my hawk drawings were?!
I agree with you on the topic of colour to the point of us finding a cool colourist! I'd love to work with someone real passionate about colours, in setting and mood and comics. I do think colour is a key element that adds to a visual storytelling.
I think we should take on a sample/pilot chapter of minimal pages to test how we go.
Am I the only one who's never done a thing such as this in cyberspace before?
Ah, so that's why it wouldn't work for me. I wasn't capitalizing it. xD
About color, I don't think it is essential. There's a few comics pages I found on dA that I've admired very much. They are from #26 The Attack and I love the style of the artist, as well as the sparse use of color.
pg. 1 (http://doorstop.deviantart.com/art/animorphs-the-attack-1-21142906)
pg. 2 (http://doorstop.deviantart.com/art/animorphs-the-attack-2-21142973)
pg. 3 (http://doorstop.deviantart.com/art/animorphs-the-attack-3-21143024)
So this is just my personal opinion, but I would love to see the graphic novel using a style like this. I guess it all depends on what feel you are going for. Gafrash's sketches are very well drawn (I especially liked the morph sequence and the Yeerk pool) and they definitely are a great style for a superhero comic book, which is very appropriate for Animorphs. The more minimalistic style of the above pages could work equally well.
Sorry, I don't really have a point to all this rambling, I just wanted to share those pages cause I've always thought they were awesome. xDDD
Oh Em Gee! Mirienne, thanks for posting that! That is the first time I've seen how a chapter of Animorphs could work in comic form, and I think the fan there did a real cool job with the extract of the book, too!! She definately captured the mood of the situation and she would not have needed to write what section of book it was! You can tell with her style!
One can do so much tones with pencil, but I've only been using a black artliner so far. I reckon for the animals, I just might do them in pencil now! It could really work! Thanks!
IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE SHOULD BE PUSHING FOR!
I can see guys that we all got lots of talent and potential here, and can make something big. But to this make work we all got to get organized. Now, I PMed Richard and he was intrigued, but he also wanted to know if and when we had a time plan for it-when we were starting, when we planned to finish, etc. Now to do that, we gotta get organized. Wolfev, I appreciate you trying to take charge and get some order earlier, but I did start this so I should probably be in charge. Gafrash, thanks and I admire your efforts. So we need to start getting organized- wolfev and Estelore can be the head writers and Dameg and Gafrash can be head artists.
Now, when should we start and when should our deadline be? :)
Personally, the words Dead and Line sound really off putting. I am not looking at this as a work or comission of some sort. I am doing this because I enjoy the series and enjoy drawing as my hobby and enjoy comics and enjoy working with others. But I, like any individual, am going to be committed with other priorities through my everyday life. My next semester of uni starts soon and I'm househunting as we speak, to state a bit about me. Nevertheless, I will continue drawing Animorphs on my spare times. And would love for us to materialize something! Whatever time it takes!
venemousspiderwookiee, as much as I want to do this as a collective with all of us here in the Virtual World, I don't see us doing too good meeting deadlines and such... At the moment I do not have a set constant access to the internet, I am not even using my own internet right now.
So I fear it will be hard for me to do this on a daily basis. And at the same time I want to be really involved in this project!
What I am saying is: A timetable would be practicle for this, but should not be a fixed thing we should count on.
Not before we do a mock run with some sample, either!
Lastly, a totally random question: Could someone tell me what ebooks and audiobooks are... are they like a combination of images and voice overs done for the web???
Cheers, y'all!
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I was trying to limit my scans to only us of the community here. Thought I was being smart by figuring only tru-Anifans would know the word. But if there is a RAF special space for it, Dameg, I might actually have to take you up on your offer. But the address you posted for your site seems to be blocked.
About Visser 3, I can't see your drawing, but remember that his host is a strong Andalite, like 40 years old for a Human, not very tall, but strong. And even his host wasn't a "good and soft" guy ^_^'
Thanks JSF16-dude! The Visser's Andalite host there does look small to me, too, think I got too caught on trying to portray him with a sort of a 'Hitler' moustache to his face. Don't know if my 'tryhard' statement worked. Notice the tight nostrils!?
Dameg, the Alloran in me mind is as such too, but also, when drawing an Andalite, we need to picture an Andalite's delicate and 'weaker' upper-body. (in comparison to a human) (heck, in comparison with their lower bodies, even). Not sure if those are the exact words used to describe their bodies in the series, but I keep in mind how their arms are meant to be weaker than a human's... and a human's is meant to be weaker to a gorilla's... and so on.
It's a just description of Andalites that I can't forget.
Therefore, I think, an Andalite's average physical upper-body sculpt, should be somewhat significantly smaller and leaner, than our human ones.
I also woudn't draw an average human's arms equal to an average gorilla's arms.
The weapons design is something we've only scraped here. I've seen blueprints for the various spacecrafts somewhere, I can't recall. But even if I had them, we are still going on imagination on what a Dracon Beam, a bio-filter device, a dropshaft, a Kandrona and etc look like! I've been pondering about these things. I lack the skills to make alien technology believable... know what I mean?!
PS: I JUST DON'T WANT THOSE CORNY TORCHES THE TV SERIES HAD!!! NO TORCHES!!!!
I found the password!! ^_^' Thanks!
So, about my website, it's here: http://damegdl.free.fr (http://damegdl.free.fr), if you go "English flag" then to "BDs" then "The BDs" (sorry, this website is one of my first, very old, and I didn't modifie it for long, so it isn't a good one), you'll arrive on the link I gave last time. And you can't enter without a password. It was the only thing I wanted to show you ^_^ You can make a website, where you want, and block the entrance with a login and a password. If we wanna do a website about the Graphic Novel, we can do that.
About Alloran, I understand what you mean, because I feel the same, and it's why I told you that.
I think you should draw Elfangor as you imagine the Andalites. Aximili is younger, so he should be more little, less strong than Elfangor. Alloran must be a little less tall than Elfangor, but taller than Aximili, and stronger than Elfangor. I think you should begin by Elfangor, and modifie the drawing to arrive to Alloran ^_^
but... GOOD LUCK!! ^_^'
About the weapon, I agree, don't do like the torches we see in the TV show. I think the Dracon beams are more little than torches, about the size of a Hork-Bajir's hand (just a little more long). And quite simple outside (then people couldn't understand that it's weapon if they don't see them shouting and dizintegrate things ^_^'). I'm not sure to be clear ^_^' I'd be better for explanations in French... sorry.
PS: about your question: Ebooks are just the books scanned and written in a PDF file. It's like to read the true books, but on computer. Download them if you want! Why not? You'll see with your own eyes. You can download few ebooks if you clic on my siggy ^_^
Audiobooks: I can't say about them, I'm like you, I wait to listen them ^_^
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Well, I had time to see your new drawings.
So, Gafrash, your Hork-Bajirs are perfect!! I have nothing to say about them. About Alloran, you also should make him older. Older than Elfangor... with the face of a warrior, a soldier who did the war, how IS the war ^_^' He should have the face of an army general, the face of the guy that, when you see him, you understand you shouldn't say anything wrong... Hard to do, I know, but Visser 3 is like that...
About Taxxons, in fact, I don't really like the concept we see on the books. Did you do with those examples? I imagined them with shorter legs, with bigger corpses, wide and who lag, and who can explode like a watermelon if you give a big hit in it... I imagined the Taxxons walking and crawling in the same time...
But it's a good job ^_^ and the characters seem a little younger now... even if they still seem more than 13...
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About the Dracon beams, there should be different sizes, for Humans and Hork-Bajir. Also, They where described as being pistol like. Another thing, you can get the spacecraft schematics on the Hirac Delest website. Here's the link.
http://hirac-delest.issamshahid.com/status.htm
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Okay, folks, I'm making an announcement-of-sorts:
My life is VERY, VERY busy. RAF is a fairly high priority for my free time, but I always have something that I COULD be doing elsewhere. (The 'pedia AND real life)
Thus, I'm not going to be terribly active on this thread until we have something concrete that I can use in a story-board.
(In other words, I'm going to leave all the nit-picking-over-how-the-characters-should-look to you guys, and you can PM me when you're REALLY ready to get this moving.)
If you need anything (like animal images, sincere opinions, et cetera), you are welcome to PM me for it. In the mean time, I'll be RAFing it up as I normally do, leaving all the visual aspects of this to the artists.
Last thing: Don't set anything resembling a final deadline. It simply won't work out if you do. Set a VARIABLE timeline for the individual segments/books, to follow loosely as we go along.
When we ARE ready to story-board and draw, we should reserve a space in the Fan-Art board, where I can type up a basic 'road map' for the layout. John and the other writers would look over it for suggestions, which should be posted IN THIS THREAD and NOT on the actual story-board thread, for purposes of saving time and space. Once it has been checked for content, the artists can go over it and decide where to take it from there.
Of course, I'm not the boss here, but this is my suggestion for making this run smoothly. Let's NOT start that thread until we are READY for it, capisce?
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Capisce.
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And this is also something I have to work on. Did you see how bad my hawk drawings were?!
Um, excuse me? Those hawk drawings were PHENOMENAL! Especially the one of Tobias in mid-flight. I could tell from the sketches that you were kind of teaching yourself to draw the hawk form as you went, and you did an excellent job of it.
Um...as far as my participation in this project goes....I can't draw, I don't know how to color from blank in photoshop (although I am very familiar with photoshop in general due to my photography). I can beta read or help with story boards if you need it. Consider me as being 'on-call', I guess. :) So you know...let me know if I can help.
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I agree. I saw those drawings and I'm like, WOW! This guy's amazing!
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About the Dracon beams, there should be different sizes, for Humans and Hork-Bajir. Also, They where described as being pistol like. Another thing, you can get the spacecraft schematics on the Hirac Delest website. Here's the link.
http://hirac-delest.issamshahid.com/status.htm
JSF16, cheers for that! Hirac-delest has everything on them!!! I love that poster with all the aliens, but I never saw them print!!!
Thanks for the compliments, they are incentivating!
You too Terenia, sometimes my perfectionist pessimistic style gets the better out of me. Terrible!
I am glad you liked the hawk, but I am still learning. I bought this book now on getting the 'drawing-structure' of animals. From lions to dogs, horses, and birds. As soon as I got some more done, I'll post them.
Question for ya: What is beta read?
I feel like such a baby in this virtual world!
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Beta read basically means someone will read it and make suggestions, look for any glaring mistakes, make sure it's realistic and whatnot. Basically an editor of sorts.
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I just looked into the Santa Barbra thing. They don't live there for sure in the stories, that was only where they moved after the war.
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yeah, I forgot that.
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Is this still going on? If we want this to happen work has to be done. Scripts, finishing and starting sketches. Also we need to stop the stupid arguing over coloring. We'll work that out later after this has coagulated into some type of feasible form.
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True... Where are you guys? Are you still working about it? ^_^'
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Far out, we are creative people and we are talking about the aesthetics of doing an Animorphs Graphic novel, dude. Sorry if that sounds stupid.
You might get your wish, though, because so far I've seen no RGBs.
NOR have I found a proper board for us to start this project properly, as somebody suggested.
Until we do that we can't say we are taking this seriously.
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This looks like it could be awesome! I wish I could help but my art leaves much to be desired >_> If you need help coloring though, I might be of some help. sagekiller.devianta rt.com
Either way I'll keep checking in to see how this goes! I'd love to see the finished result!
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Your art is great, SageKiller!!
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Thanks ^_^ but I just like coloring other people's art, it's not like I actually drew any of that...
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But you're good with coloring ^_^ I really can't say the same about me...
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Well that's a good excuse to color as much as possible until you get awesome XD
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I don't like so much coloring ^_^'
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Gafrash,
I just made an account just so I can tell you how awesome your drawings are. I have been checking every now and then but these recent ones made me yelp with joy. (if only I had the talent to draw, but I can't even make stick figures......) Keep it up! :)
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I'm not an amazing artist. I'm decent. I don't know if we had people picked for the drawings or not, but my only Animorphs art is uploaded to my DeviantART account at this url: http://beachbeagle.deviantart.com/art/The-Animorphs-83600127
I don't think I'm good enough for what we're looking for and I don't really think I'd do a good job doing a graphic novel. I just thought I'd throw my art out there though.
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Not bad, a little better then me, nit bad.
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Gafrash,
I just made an account just so I can tell you how awesome your drawings are. I have been checking every now and then but these recent ones made me yelp with joy. (if only I had the talent to draw, but I can't even make stick figures......) Keep it up! :)
Hey, FotoPhreak12, cheers, gal!!!
I was having a really emo day when I read your comment at uni! You actually really put a smile in my face and I thank you for it.
It's frustrating how I haven't been able to draw as much as I been wanting to. Just imagine me at uni with all these concepts and only being able to draw when I get some spare time. On the bus, before sleep, doing a number two in the toilet. I'm serious. Uni and work take a lot of time of us doing the things we enjoy.
I was actually thinking of changing the photobucket to somewhere like flickr or something. It sucks how you can't leave comments and there's no way to tell who's been seeing your stuff. I didn't think anyone from here would keep checking my photobucket! That's so cool!
Done a couple of more sketches I think you might like! Stay tuned for a layout idea for Jake, Marco, Rachel and Tobias/red-tailed hawk descending into the Yeerk pool complex (really happy with this one). Currently scribbling a tiger close-up sketch.
This looks like it could be awesome! I wish I could help but my art leaves much to be desired >_> If you need help coloring though, I might be of some help. sagekiller.devianta rt.com
Either way I'll keep checking in to see how this goes! I'd love to see the finished result!
I like your colouring, too, Sagekiller. You like vibrancy in colour schemes?
You ever used Painter by any chance?
How good to use is DeviantArt?
Beachbeagle, your drawings are kewl. Make more Animorphs drawings!
I struggle to make them all their appropriate heights standing next to one another. How hard is it?
And I like how you did your avatar, by the way.
We really need more people to make this Graphic Novel manifest.
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Well, I'd love to help out with the graphic novel but I'm not sure I'd be of much use. I'm not a great artist or writer or anything.
But I'll just put myself out there as willing to help with anything else, I guess?
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Gafrash, try DeviantArt. It's quite good, many people have an account on, and we can post comments. You can try, and if you don't like, just stop using this account ^_^
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Can someone post the Deviant Art stuff for me? That page doesn't even load up for me for some odd reason, I can't see anything there.
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Thanks, Dameg. I might well do that. Will try to when I get some time.
Reckon I could find someone to help me with some colouring.
Not sure what's going on with this project anymore. Seriously thinking of just doing my own experimental.
Let's see where it takes me.
XenomorphLV426, whose Deviant Art don't work?
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Like, the site loads up, but all the pictures are just plain white boxes. It's strange.
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Are you talking about my photobucket? Are ya getting the password, right?!
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...Kwa? Keh?
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Que?!
If you are trying to view my Photobucket, the password is the Hork-Bajir word for Andalite.
Make sure you use the capital letter.
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Well, yeah, just generally. It'd be cool to see everyone's art, most people seem to be using Deviant Art.
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(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/Setupf.jpg?t=1227052872)
Hey guys, just recently I had a go at colouring one of my Andalites.
Hey Dameg, I've just become a Deviant, too. I clicked 'refresh' MINUTES after posting and there was already some response. I mean, that is scary! I didn't know it people were THIS on the ball with the posted artworks over there. Wow!
How do I find you and anyone else from here there?
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Cool ^^ You'll have many fans! Even I have some ^^'
To find me, go on the link "DeviantArt" in my siggy. About the others... You may find some from my DeviantArt page... And others give there DeviantArt... Maybe we should make a thread to give our DeviantArt pages ^^' (I'll make it)
May you give us your address too?
And how do you do to make so beautiful colors with Photoshop >_< I'm so bad with it!!! >_< T_T Nobody can teach me?
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can't wait for this.
this will be epic!
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Holy sweetacular mushrooms! :o Those drawings are AWESOME!
What's the link for your deviant art, Gafrash? gosh. I love the drawing so much, I keep going back to look at it!
By the way, I changed the name of this thread as I noticed it was spelt "amimorphs"
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Hi all, I'm pretty new to the board, but I think this is a really super awesome idea.
Gafrash, your illustrations look really amazing and I think it would work great in a graphic novel setting.. I tried logging into the Photobucket account, but only saw that one sketch. Were there others you had from before?
I would love to help out in any way I can, and possibly write some for the graphic novel. I've written a few screenplays for school so I would assume it would be pretty similar. Also, I'm a huge comic book fan, specifically Batman and Superman, so this would be really fun to work on! I read through most of the posts, but was just wondering where the project stands at this point and if we can do something to get the ball rolling.
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Ax Man, want to be the first to welcome you aboard, dude.
I am pretty big into comics too, and maaaan, an Animorphs – Graphic Novel would be totally ace!!! And I would be soooooo honored to be a part of it.
Photobucket is a little clunky, I know. To see the sketches I’ve posted, make sure you’ve clicked the ConceptsforGraphicNovel link on the side bar of the account I made. It will ask you for a password, type in the Hork-Bajir word for ‘Andalite’. Note the capital letter.
Thanks everyone for the compliments. It truly incentivates me, you guys!
I may well stick with DeviantArt, but I am afraid we won’t be able to limit the viewers to RAF members from over there. Wanted to keep it in the RAF bag, you know. But I, too, don’t know where this project is at the mo. However, with my uni semester now out of the way, I am seriously thinking of producing a little something and posting it here.
Dameg, thanks for the add over there! And I also went ahead and added Terenia. It’s kewl seeing you guys over there. I’ve never had virtual like-minded people to meet through cyberspace. It’s pretty cool!
But I am still learning the ropes with all the cyber stuff, to be honest. So I am not sure what you mean by thread… like are we combining something?
I’ll add my Deviant address to the bottom of my avatar.
Random question: Do you guys think the Andalite’s tail needs to be more ‘scorpion-like’ to look more nasty, or is it nasty as it is, like an elongated snake. I know the Animorphs described the Andalites to have this nasty scorpion-like look, but the reason I opt for drawing them like this is because I just can’t picture the scorpion-tails to being elastic and flexible enough as I pictured the Andalites tail-fighting. This way it shows more flexibility, but I just had a reckon it verges the look of a Garatron’s whip-like tail. What do you guys think?
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I like the kind of tail you made on your last picture (the one on DeviantArt).
I think they say, in the books, that it looks like scorpion tail to permit us to understand easily and quickly... and figure out the Andalite. But I think it's a little different, because Andalites don't use their tails as scorpions do! Andalites tails must be closer to knifes/swords, don't you think?
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I agree. I think it looks awsome just the way it is. Waaay better than anything I could hope to accomplish, let me tell you.
And Ax man brings up a good point. Are we still sitting with our thumbs up our butts on this, or have we actually started this thing? Because if we have started it...um...Oops...Mi ssed the band-wagon with it.
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(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/Setupf.jpg?t=1227052872)
Hey guys, just recently I had a go at colouring one of my Andalites.
Hey Dameg, I've just become a Deviant, too. I clicked 'refresh' MINUTES after posting and there was already some response. I mean, that is scary! I didn't know it people were THIS on the ball with the posted artworks over there. Wow!
How do I find you and anyone else from here there?
what's your DeviantArt?
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Hey goom, Not much happening on me DeviantArt at the mo, since I only just started and intend to only post coloured in stuff. My sketches and that I'll post on Photobucket. So give it a try there.
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Yeah, I remember the way the cover artist drew the tails on Elfangor and Ax different to the way he drew Aldrea's and Alloran's/Visser 3. I kind of like the tails long and to the side like those. Understandable that Ax's has to be somewhat smaller, though.
And how do you do to make so beautiful colors with Photoshop >_< I'm so bad with it!!! >_< T_T Nobody can teach me?
Hey, Dameg, check your mail on the left there for an e-mail I sent ya about this. Hope it is useful to ya!
I've added my Deviant Address to my avatar there.
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Hey goom, Not much happening on me DeviantArt at the mo, since I only just started and intend to only post coloured in stuff. My sketches and that I'll post on Photobucket. So give it a try there.
i must not have the right permissions or something, i can only see one image in your photobucket.
(unless you just have that one so far?)
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GazStalkerStalker-dude, my sketches should still be there. Look out for the Concepts for AniGraphicNovel link under favorites.
And there is a password. Use the Hork-Bajir word for 'Andalite'.
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Erm... sorry, but whats the Hork-Bajir word for Andalite?
I don't have the best memory....
But your deviant art drawings are amazing.
This is gonna rock. :)
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GazStalkerStalker-dude, my sketches should still be there. Look out for the Concepts for AniGraphicNovel link under favorites.
And there is a password. Use the Hork-Bajir word for 'Andalite'.
ah, didn't see the password.
thanks :)
claire, it's Hruthin btw.
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Gafrash, I think the way you have it looks great. And I also managed to make my way into your photobucket and your character sketches are really nice!
I don't really recall it being mentioned in the books, but to me the tails of Andalites were always like...silver-ish if that makes sense. Like instead of a sharped tusk/claw material, it was more of like an ACTUAL blade from a sword or something.
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Cool, Ax Man!
Hmmmmm… See, this is the issue I have with the biology of these guys.
A ‘blade’ to me is very much a metallic thing, too, especially the ones found in the Hork-Bajir and the Andalites, that make a KLANG! sound when clashing (I recall reading in The Arrival), let alone blades that slash trees in half.
What have we got here? Alien-Wolverines fresh out of a Hattori-Hanzo workshop?!
However, I wonder if the fact that they are aliens really lets them get away with it?
I think something like a Hork-Bajir can be interpreted as part-androids or something, visually, if all their blades are done literally in silver. I thought about that and figured their bones wouldn’t be a metallic substance, but something organic that would have metallic properties.
I’ve always pictured the Hork-Bajir’s blade with a tone of brown in mind. But with a special glitter or something when done in a particular light.
This is a little too technical, perhaps. Nevertheless, I’ll make my next Andalite render with a ‘silver’ looking tail-blade and see what we get.
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I checked out all your drawings on photobucket, they were amazing.
Love the freaky half morphed Tobias, lol.
My only nitpick, sorry, is that, don't Andalites have 7 fingers? not 6?
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I checked out all your drawings on photobucket, they were amazing.
Love the freaky half morphed Tobias, lol.
My only nitpick, sorry, is that, don't Andalites have 7 fingers? not 6?
Thanks, Goobly Idiot, lady.
I have been told this by others on the forum here before. WHY do I have it in my head that they have 6 fingers in total??!! WHERE IS IT SAID THEY HAVE 7?? Somebody please point it out to me. Heheheh.
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i don't exactly remember, but i'm sure it wasn't six.
they always said they had 'a few too many fingers', i think it might have been mentioned somewhere.
seven sounds about right, but your image looked fine with six.
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Ok, apparently nobody's read this on the cast topic, but I'm putting Gafrash in charge of the effort. He's earned it, and he knows what needs to be done.
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I checked out all your drawings on photobucket, they were amazing.
Love the freaky half morphed Tobias, lol.
My only nitpick, sorry, is that, don't Andalites have 7 fingers? not 6?
Thanks, Goobly Idiot, lady.
I have been told this by others on the forum here before. WHY do I have it in my head that they have 6 fingers in total??!! WHERE IS IT SAID THEY HAVE 7?? Somebody please point it out to me. Heheheh.
Call me Claire.
Now, I just looked at the cover art for book 8. Ax definately has 7 fingers. :)
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I stand corrected! It looks like 7 fingers from this end, too.
Thank you, Claire! ;D
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I'm not sure but I think there is somewhere in the last books a little sentence who suppose/say that Andalites have 7 fingers...
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(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/Turma003large.jpg?t=1228194542)
Hey guys, here's the latest in my deviations. An attempt at rendering the skin on the Animorphs.
There's quite a bit for me to learn about colouring. REALLY need some colourist aid.
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Very nice job! The coloring looks good to me, though I'm no expert. I think Cassie came out really nicely.
Rachel looks a bit too old, maybe...I like how Marco looks kind of Beavis-and-Butthead-ish though. x3
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I agree. Cassie looks very good! Marco is cool too.
About Tobias, his nose is a little too pointed... and Rachel seems a little too old.
And coloring is quite good, but if you feel you need some help... Who said "I can do coloring"??
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Thanks for the comps, gals. Now that you’ve mentioned it, Rachel doesn’t really look finished does she?! Nor do Marco's Jeans. I did base Rachel on a model, but the face should still be my version of her (I try to include a bit of ‘fierceness’ by making her eyes narrower than the others'. This may be the reason why I think she looks more ‘serious’ and, thus, ‘old’.
I have a MAJOR problem making them ‘look’ young and average!!! Nghaaaarrrrgh!
Yeah, Dameg, I think ALL their noses look pointy to me, hehehe!
And all the lines from my drawing were darkened, and look really bold. I set out to exercise my colouring in this pic. This is the first drawing I have coloured the Animorphs themselves in!
PS: By the way, did ya get my e-mail?! Hope it was helpful!
...I like how Marco looks kind of Beavis-and-Butthead-ish though. x3
Hehehehe! That’s so kewl how you see that!
If I can do that kind of depiction on every Marco-drawing, it would be an achievement!!!
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That is awesome!!!!!!
And a while back I did a kinda rough draft script. If you want to dry to do a test chapter, try that, a lot of people seemed to like it.
I did chapter 1 of the encounter.
The Encounter
Overall Notes: Rachel should be depicted as better looking than any of the other Animorphs since Tobias has a crush on her.
Chapter 1
Chapter Notes
Artist Instructions: This only requires shots of Tobias flying and images of his past. As a coloring note past images should be framed darker and colored using a darker palette. Do not show Tobias’ face clearly since The Encounter is seen through Tobias’ eyes this is to show that Tobias can not remember what he looked like.
My Name is Tobias…
… A Freak of Nature
I once was a human boy, but that’s over now
I’ll never be human again, not that it was any better than my life now.
As a boy I used to get picked on, thrown into lockers, head shoved into toilets on a regular basis.
Now I can’t even remember exactly what I looked like back then. It’s amazing how much you can forget in a few weeks. Ever since I got my permanent pilots license my old life, what little of it there was worth remembering, has been slipping away.
I doubt I’ll be missed. I used to live with my drunk of an uncle who will probably take his
sweet time reporting that he is receiving welfare checks for someone who is long gone.
Still I had Jake send him a note saying I was living with my Aunt on the other side of the Country.
Thinks to Himself “<Like that’ll work>” (try to give bird eye roll)
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Yeah, they're all pointed lol but Tobias's is particularly pointed ^^' It's strange...
And if you wanna make them less old... maybe try to draw their head softer, rounder. The square chin made them older... If you look at your Marco and Cassie, they seem younger... and they have rounder face! ^^ try that...
If you wanna keep Jake looking serious, make his eyes a little smaller than usually (or more closed if you prefer). I think it must work.
Except that, bodies are perfect. Only their face make them too old
PS: Sorry, I wanted to answer about your email, but I had no time to try ^^ Thank you anyway. I'll read and try soon! ^^
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Hey guys, here's the latest in my deviations. An attempt at rendering the skin on the Animorphs.
There's quite a bit for me to learn about colouring. REALLY need some colourist aid.
That sketch is really, really good!
Regarding coloring, I would not do it at all. It looks good, but the series is too long to be worrying about coloring. Ideally, to keep readers' attentions (if this is a webcomic), at least a page or two would be necessary per week. I would imagine that coloring would take a lot of time to do, and would burn you out very quickly. Come to think of it, I haven't really seen any long-lasting webcomic use coloring. To be honest, it's not really necessary, although it would be nice to color a few things like a single-panel page occasionally to keep reference of the colors.
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That sketch is really, really good!
Regarding coloring, I would not do it at all. It looks good, but the series is too long to be worrying about coloring. Ideally, to keep readers' attentions (if this is a webcomic), at least a page or two would be necessary per week. I would imagine that coloring would take a lot of time to do, and would burn you out very quickly. Come to think of it, I haven't really seen any long-lasting webcomic use coloring. To be honest, it's not really necessary, although it would be nice to color a few things like a single-panel page occasionally to keep reference of the colors.
Thanks rossabo.
PS: If you're new, WELCOME aboard and thank you for your compliment.
Your comments are valid! A webcomic would be what this Project would be aimed at, though I didn't actually think about that. I was thinking more like, you know, pages on links that we could set up.
Anyone have any links where I could check out some actual webcomics?!
The idea that an Animorphs comic doesn't need to be in colour has been brought up in this thread before. I've been arguing that it does need, for when panels that won't be done in colour can also have some sort of a meaning. HOWEVER, having done these few colour renders, I can tell I would grow bold before a single comic gets complete. Hehehehe!
So you may well be right.
On that note, below, I am posting a pic of a b/w render I did for one of the layouts I previously sketched.
(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/ComicPanelExperimentalcopy2a.jpg?t=1228284643)
I had this dialogue scene between Rachel and Cassie in mind for an intro to the characters.
I welcome anyone who can give us a hand with some sort of a dialogue. Whatever you guys make out of the storytelling there, it goes!
Then we'll pick what speech-balloons I can put on top.
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wolfev, it would be kewl to create that scene.
A few things need to be established when writing a comic script. Like what type of shot will be shown in the panel, who and what goes in the panel and what are they doing... The type you've included there should be divided into panels for ease on the artist.
Should the panel be filled with too much type (even if the panel is the whole page) it could hinder the story-telling.
... Artist Instructions: This only requires shots of Tobias flying and images of his past. As a coloring note past images should be framed darker and colored using a darker palette. Do not show Tobias’ face clearly since The Encounter is seen through Tobias’ eyes this is to show that Tobias can not remember what he looked like.
I liked this idea for Tobias' 'memory recall' scene. His head without a face would be quite striking to visually give the message.
It's interesting the way you put it, because for such 'memory' scenes, I was actually thinking they would need to be done in pale soft mono-colours to give that impression of past, you know. In it, a tone of red to the black and white inks would add a 'bad' feeling. A 'blue' = a good happy one and so on...
...PS: Sorry, I wanted to answer about your email, but I had no time to try ^^ Thank you anyway. I'll read and try soon! ^^
Dameg, no butter about the reply, my friend. I just didn't know if I sent it to you correctly and if it wasn't too complicated. ;D
Yeah, they're all pointed lol but Tobias's is particularly pointed ^^' It's strange...
And if you wanna make them less old... maybe try to draw their head softer, rounder. The square chin made them older... If you look at your Marco and Cassie, they seem younger... and they have rounder face!...
Thank you for your advice above, and I will try doing that from now on. Though I should really be getting on to drawing more animals. ::)
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Those look really good! How long did it take you to complete? Also, sorry for not researching this topic more (it's 14 pages long, and I'm supposed to be doing homework now), but would this be a webcomic format? How many pages would you expect to produce a week? What's the general consensus on the amount of books to be adapted?
And thanks for the welcome! I'm actually not really new, though. I had some more posts before the forum underwent a change, and recently I've been very busy and only check the forum from time to time.
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This page is really great, Gafrash ^^
I'd also like to know how much time you need to make a page like that...
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Hey guys, I took three days (Then I had to leave my Hork-Bajir host and feed…. :D...) to render the coloured pic. And it took me all this afternoon doing this b/w one.
Quite frustrating, but you learn as you go. I end up with all these layers! Nghaaaarrrrrgh!!!
rossabo, the idea of a webcomic sounds kewl! Though I’ve never really read any comic online. We haven’t thought as far as the final format. Basically there’s been a lot of talk and little materialization :-[. No outlines of Books per si, yet. But I’ve thought of breaking down the first 5 books into 2 parts each. Possibly 3 for Book 1. But nothing concrete. Basically, scripting is not my thing.
I, too, am student, dude, and the only reason I am able to do these things now is b/c I my Semester’s finished. I will be gone for the XMAS holis.
PS: The Forum underwent change?! :o Then I must be from after that time, b/c it’s news to me. :-[
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Hey guys, I took three days (Then I had to leave my Hork-Bajir host and feed…. :D...) to render the coloured pic. And it took me all this afternoon doing this b/w one.
Quite frustrating, but you learn as you go. I end up with all these layers! Nghaaaarrrrrgh!!!
rossabo, the idea of a webcomic sounds kewl! Though I’ve never really read any comic online. We haven’t thought as far as the final format. Basically there’s been a lot of talk and little materialization :-[. No outlines of Books per si, yet. But I’ve thought of breaking down the first 5 books into 2 parts each. Possibly 3 for Book 1. But nothing concrete.
The reason why I personally think that a webcomic would be better than a finalized graphic novel is that it would keep things moving at a steady pace. I would imagine that a weekly formula would keep everybody motivated to update the comics and script. I can just see how a big project like a graphic novel could be easily delayed and put off for a while. Plus, I think that it would be rewarding to get constant feedback, and to watch the amount of subscribers grow.
From what I understand of most webcomics and comics in general, the script is finished before the comic starts. I guess some people who write more abstract comics can just write the story as they go along, but with something prewritten and very specific like Animorphs, having an entire script to reference would keep all events organized.
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A webcomic would be awesome. There's tons out there, but one that follows a format similar to what this would probably end up being (continuing storyline, etc.) would be megatokyo.
I think that maybe once a story was finished (like book 1) you could start publishing it online, like a new strip each week or three times a week or whatever. That way you could draw a larger crowd, and get lots of fun feedback. :)
ALSO, as far as color vs. B&W goes, I think that for time and sanity purposes it may make more sense to have it B&W and only throw color in when relevant (kind of a Quentin Tarantino thing, I guess). Also, covers could be in color. But if we're aiming to actually finish this, then taking time to apply color to each strip could take forever. Besides, I think the B&W render you posted was awesome, Gafrash.
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Hey guys, I took three days (Then I had to leave my Hork-Bajir host and feed…. :D...) to render the coloured pic. And it took me all this afternoon doing this b/w one.
Quite frustrating, but you learn as you go. I end up with all these layers! Nghaaaarrrrrgh!!!
Excuse-me, but... you draw with an Hork-Bajir body?!! Why don't you ask a Human body to your Visser? Truth me, it's really better, and maybe you'd need only 2 days...
Anyway, it's quite long... How many hours by day?
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I kind of like the web-comic idea. And three days would hopefully give everyone enough time to draw/color/edit/ect.
...Then again, maybe it should be a bi-weekly or a weekly comic update...But still, I like the web-comic idea. Plus, it'd give a bit more accessibility to even non-Ani fans who might think it's just a web comic, and boy wouldn't they be surprised.
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You guys could release it on the net as a weekly comic thing initially, but then once a book is finished being posted online, also release the full book (Not as a strip but as an actual full book) as a downloadible file in .cbr format or something.
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(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/Turma003large.jpg?t=1228194542)
Hey guys, here's the latest in my deviations. An attempt at rendering the skin on the Animorphs.
There's quite a bit for me to learn about colouring. REALLY need some colourist aid.
That is impressive! :o
Your new page looks great also. Keep up the excellent work!
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that's great. Rachel's hair needsto be more yellowish though. I like how with this, unlike the book covers, I can actually tell Cassie's a girl LOL ;D
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uh, Gafrash, what's ur photobuket and deviantart profile? can u give me a link or sumthin?
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Thanks, you lot!
Excuse-me, but... you draw with an Hork-Bajir body?!! Why don't you ask a Human body to your Visser? Truth me, it's really better, and maybe you'd need only 2 days...
Anyway, it's quite long... How many hours by day?
Hehehe! I go on and off. Maybe 6 hours in total???
If I stay in front of a computer too long, I lose motor control over this stupid Hork-Bajir... And need to go tree picking to keep him content, you see.
You guys could release it on the net as a weekly comic thing initially, but then once a book is finished being posted online, also release the full book (Not as a strip but as an actual full book) as a downloadible file in .cbr format or something.
This is more what I had in mind, actually. Though a webcomic sounds great!
that's great. Rachel's hair needsto be more yellowish though. I like how with this, unlike the book covers, I can actually tell Cassie's a girl LOL ;D
You think so?! Her hair def needs to have gold-like attributes. And I always thought it was some of the short-hair-style that made the Cassie-model look boyish, but I never thought she was a boy!!!! Heheheh!
I got a lot of work to manage their skin tones!
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Since no one has written us any dialogues, I thought I would post what I came up with. Just throwing it out there.
(http://gi251.photobucket.com/groups/gg298/5U02UFQZ7F/ComicPanelExperimentalcopy2a.jpg?t=1228284643)
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RACHEL: “There they go.”
CASSIE: “I know, Rachel.”
RACHEL: “And I know my cousin. And I know you, Cassie.”
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RACHEL: “There’s definitely something along the lines of Chemistry between you too. You seriously have got to make a move, Cassie.”
CASSIE: “Owww, Rachel…”
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CASSIE: “Even if we were to go out, how will I find time for us to do anything?! I got my hands full with school and helping out my parents.”
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RACHEL: “Jeez! At this rate, we are going to graduate and grow bold and you two won’t even touch lips. ”
CASSIE: “You think so? I am sure Jake and I will live”
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RACHEL: “Oh, no no no! We can do so much better. Let’s hit The Mall. A Mall Mission might be just what you need.”
CASSIE: “Good let’s get a step closer to being in debt. I am broke, remember?!”
RACHEL: “Who said anything about spending?! There’s a Games Arcade I know they hit."
CASSIE: “Oh!" "Well, then, can we just scrap that Mall Mission with some spending then?!”
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Notes: Obviously I can't create jokes that are fittingly to the two. The last two panels also need to be more succinct. This is why I can't write for crap. I could imagine a dialogue when I drew it, but I can't come up with the correct words. Nghaaaaaaarrrrrrgh!!!!
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Thats pretty good. How about this?
Could you make a change or two to the visuals
Frame 1: maybe make Jake a little down as well and Rachel slightly less perky. Remember, this was the day that Jake didn't make the basketball team. We can say that Marco probably failed some test too and that they went to the arcade to blow off steam.
Rachel: Rachel:Hey their boys. So Jake, whats bumming you? Its no secret Marco knows nothing about Shakespear, but Jake normally you... (They walk by not caring)
Frame 2: Rachel: I don't get why you don't make a move on Jake? I mean he's my cousin, I won't be jealous.
Frame 3: Cassie: One step at a time Rache. Besides, if your so eager to micromanage a relationship, why don't you go for Marco.
Frame 4: Cassie: (Heart) Its a mach made in heaven. (Heart)
Frame 5: Rachel: More like hell if you ask me. I'm not letting you pass this one up. Now's your chance. Lets hit the mall, I give you million:1 odds that they'll be at the arcade.
Or something like that. Also food for thought. Generally they all kinda look older than they are suppose to be. Since this is an adaptation, how about making Tobias slightly younger, ie the age he was suppose to be normally in the books 13ish and just age the other animorphs up? It plays more to his character design and adds a new dynamic to his original relationship with Rachel.
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I like a combination of the above two scripts. I like the beginning of Gafrash's and the end of wolfev's. Maybe we could combine them somehow?
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So what are we going to change? Listen, we can't get it all in and we have every right to change a few things. How about we do the first chapter with Elfangor and do flashbacks to how they all got to the construction site at first. Also, I always wanted the Marco Rachel relationship to be explained more. We could get a little more there. Heck, we could have Rachel break it off with Tobias at one point because she has an interest in Marco. If we do this and get a new fanbase, there will be people who ship Marco and Rachel. Also we can go back to the rough draft of the story at first. We could bring back Jake's younger brother and have an arc involving him figuring out the truth about Jake and Tom.
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Hey wolfev, that's awesome writing.
Thats pretty good. How about this?
Could you make a change or two to the visuals
Frame 1: maybe make Jake a little down as well and Rachel slightly less perky. Remember, this was the day that Jake didn't make the basketball team. We can say that Marco probably failed some test too and that they went to the arcade to blow off steam.
Rachel: Rachel:Hey their boys. So Jake, whats bumming you? Its no secret Marco knows nothing about Shakespear, but Jake normally you... (They walk by not caring)
The sequence I drew there is a bit abstract. I actually didn't draw it to link with them meeting up at The Mall on #1 kind of thing. More like a random background sequence of them at school, where they wouln't 'hang' but through Cassie and Rachel the reader can be introduced to a silent interplay between these main characters.
Though my last two writings there in the last panel suggest otherwise, I know, hehehe.
Drawing Jake and Marco being 'down' would play well to what you propose here. But I think Marco (being Marco) would have a sharp return to what Rachel throws at him there. Just not sure if we could slip it into this layout.
I could create another one for that in an authentic sequence for Book #1.
Frame 2: Rachel: I don't get why you don't make a move on Jake? I mean he's my cousin, I won't be jealous.
Frame 3: Cassie: One step at a time Rache. Besides, if your so eager to micromanage a relationship, why don't you go for Marco.
Frame 4: Cassie: (Heart) Its a mach made in heaven. (Heart)
Frame 5: Rachel: More like hell if you ask me. I'm not letting you pass this one up. Now's your chance. Lets hit the mall, I give you million:1 odds that they'll be at the arcade.
This is REALLY good writing. It gives across exactly what I was trying to say in the sequence, with the appropriate 'voices' to the girls. Well done!
If nobody else throws anything, let's blend this!!!
...how about making Tobias slightly younger, ie the age he was suppose to be normally in the books 13ish and just age the other animorphs up? It plays more to his character design and adds a new dynamic to his original relationship with Rachel.
Why do you think that?! Does Tobias strike you as the youngest in the group?
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he looks a little younger in your vision of it. Plus it could create for some interesting dynamics.
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Thanks, you lot!
Excuse-me, but... you draw with an Hork-Bajir body?!! Why don't you ask a Human body to your Visser? Truth me, it's really better, and maybe you'd need only 2 days...
Anyway, it's quite long... How many hours by day?
Hehehe! I go on and off. Maybe 6 hours in total???
If I stay in front of a computer too long, I lose motor control over this stupid Hork-Bajir... And need to go tree picking to keep him content, you see.
Try installing your computer on the tree, then ;)
6 hours... ok ^^ If I count drawing (with pencil then with pen) and "traming" (put the "trames" (woof?)), maybe I need the same for each page, too... maybe more in fact ^^' I'm quite bad with traming, I'm just beginning... Not that I don't like the Japanese way to draw but I use to draw only with pencil...
PS: Oh... I'll try to translate my first little story tonight ^^' please take a look on my DeviantArt again, later...
About the dialog, I like the both... but maybe Wolfev's one, with the joke Rachel+Marco is the best.
And Cassie is really better now. At the beginning she looked too masculine... Her face is feminine now, so I'm sure, even with short hair, it'll be ok. ^^
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Absolutely love these pics! Can't wait to see more! Love the detail work!
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Those pics are AWESOME, and I also really love Wolvev's idea of fleshing some stuff out, and his ideas of what to flesh out sound really good IMO.
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Okay, my friend who KNOWS comics just told me that we can do the whole comic and send it to a comic company. If they like it they will buy the rights from K.A.. Or we can just keep going and do this online. And I'm going to do a dummy script I think.
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Hey, I am not sure about this completely….
So what are we going to change? Listen, we can't get it all in and we have every right to change a few things. How about we do the first chapter with Elfangor and do flashbacks to how they all got to the construction site at first. Also, I always wanted the Marco Rachel relationship to be explained more. We could get a little more there. Heck, we could have Rachel break it off with Tobias at one point because she has an interest in Marco. If we do this and get a new fanbase, there will be people who ship Marco and Rachel. Also we can go back to the rough draft of the story at first. We could bring back Jake's younger brother and have an arc involving him figuring out the truth about Jake and Tom.
The idea of exploring Rachel and Marco’s interrelationship definitely needs to be done. There was only a brief suggestion of the two being in toes, and even so, I recall the flirting was only in Marco’s part. It was interesting, but never something concrete, for we all KNOW whose heart Rachel’s belong to.
I think FOR THIS PROJECT, we should try to stick to the plot as much as possible. We can’t get it all in, granted. Aiming to fixing K.A.S.U.’s, yeah, two thumbs up. But I think, to try to INVENT things that DIDN’T happen could only complicate things.
Developing a plot where, eg:. Marco and Rachel invest on a relationship, to then have it end or something sounds a little off tune to what we are trying to achieve here.
There never was, of course, a ‘Jake’s younger brother’. Again, this could be a genuine wishful thinking on your part. And there's probably lots of fanfics already with it.
Since we hardcore fans KNOW the whole series we can help each others in the whole storytelling process. The idea of a flashback intro is sound, it is important! WE HERE would know what to include in the flashbacks.
My concern is that Animorphs is such a great fantasy series, it has stories within stories to tell. The implications of actions and reactions of war (good X evil) has always been something I took with me from this series. But Animorphs is also a story about fighting the odds, change, personal sacrifices, friendship, love, loyalty, justice, truth to self, etc...
All of the above would consist of A LOT of TEXT and a lot of text = a lot of speech balloons in a comic book. These reading components tend to 'slow down' the visual effect, and thus, the story-telling gets hindered.
I am not sure I would do well in illustrating pages and pages of dialogue between the 6 main characters and dialogue and no action. I mean, if you guys knew what work goes behind creating these layouts. Can you imagine HOW MANY panels one would need to make to break up all those paragraphs make them look interesting on a page?!?!?! It’s a real challenge!
This is why I am going to say that maybe, we should give more attention to the story telling and focus less on things such as long conversations or interplay ...
All that stuff has already been done and can be found in the series!!!
A Graphic Novel is a different medium, as a tribute to the series we love, it holds the potential to make the reader GO BACK to this rich and special series we've all read back to front to get the REAL detail.
That's my perspective on this project.
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Thanks, you lot!
Excuse-me, but... you draw with an Hork-Bajir body?!! Why don't you ask a Human body to your Visser? Truth me, it's really better, and maybe you'd need only 2 days...
Anyway, it's quite long... How many hours by day?
Hehehe! I go on and off. Maybe 6 hours in total???
If I stay in front of a computer too long, I lose motor control over this stupid Hork-Bajir... And need to go tree picking to keep him content, you see.
Try installing your computer on the tree, then ;)
HAH!
6 hours... ok ^^ If I count drawing (with pencil then with pen) and "traming" (put the "trames" (woof?)), maybe I need the same for each page, too... maybe more in fact ^^' I'm quite bad with traming, I'm just beginning... Not that I don't like the Japanese way to draw but I use to draw only with pencil...
PS: Oh... I'll try to translate my first little story tonight ^^' please take a look on my DeviantArt again, later...
Kewl! Never knew about traming. It does look like the background stuff used in traditional mangas.
And Cassie is really better now. At the beginning she looked too masculine... Her face is feminine now, so I'm sure, even with short hair, it'll be ok. ^^
I still have troubles making them look non-super-heroie. They need to look like average young adults!!!
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Fine, I'll stick to the plot more. But we need to flush out Rachel and Marco cause that WAS there.
Idea for opening:
Panel 1:We open with some very bloody gory scene, whatever you want, as along as there is a lot of blood and it is a war scene of some sort. panel 2: we see its just a video game when the big letters game over appear on the screen. Panel 3: We see from the game's screen perspective Marco and Jake looking in. They should seem younger looking than usual. This is to show how they are innocent prior to the war and even take pleasure in virtual war.
That scene you drew earlier doesn't need to be used until a later book. It could be a flashback showing why Tobias followed them all to the construction site.
If we are going to do a first run for this thing what will be necessary is that by the end Jake is aware that Tom is a controller or at least suspecting it. We should go pretty fast into the encounter with Elfangor. Please tell me what you guys think so I can write something and get this thing in print asap.
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6 hours... ok ^^ If I count drawing (with pencil then with pen) and "traming" (put the "trames" (woof?)), maybe I need the same for each page, too... maybe more in fact ^^' I'm quite bad with traming, I'm just beginning... Not that I don't like the Japanese way to draw but I use to draw only with pencil...
PS: Oh... I'll try to translate my first little story tonight ^^' please take a look on my DeviantArt again, later...
Kewl! Never knew about traming. It does look like the background stuff used in traditional mangas.
And Cassie is really better now. At the beginning she looked too masculine... Her face is feminine now, so I'm sure, even with short hair, it'll be ok. ^^
I still have troubles making them look non-super-heroie. They need to look like average young adults!!!
IT is the stuff used in traditional manga ^^' even in a little manga club, they use the same things than true mangaka!
You should remember they're only kids at the beginning, 13 years old... it's very young. So I don't know what you can do... look at 13-years-old kids in the streets or near the schools lol
Good luck ^^
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IT is the stuff used in traditional manga ^^' even in a little manga club, they use the same things than true mangaka!
You should remember they're only kids at the beginning, 13 years old... it's very young. So I don't know what you can do... look at 13-years-old kids in the streets or near the schools lol
Good luck ^^
Headline news: Gafrash is arrested for stalking pre-teens. Evidence includes sketchbook full of renderings of children and weird centaur thingies. Stay tuned.
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Ohohoahahahahah! :D I thought that sounded dodgie, too. Cracker! Nope. Won't be doing that!
wolfev, the scene I drew and posted here was just a little something to bring some of you writers out and 'play'. Not actual piece I intended to use. An experiment, if you like.
So far, only you have given us response. So, I'd have to go with you and whatever idea you want to bounce with the Elfangor encounter scene.
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IT is the stuff used in traditional manga ^^' even in a little manga club, they use the same things than true mangaka!
You should remember they're only kids at the beginning, 13 years old... it's very young. So I don't know what you can do... look at 13-years-old kids in the streets or near the schools lol
Good luck ^^
Headline news: Gafrash is arrested for stalking pre-teens. Evidence includes sketchbook full of renderings of children and weird centaur thingies. Stay tuned.
lol Hopefully, somebody understood ;)
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Gafrash, I was looking at your dA page and you mentioned the usage of type, but not having the Ani-font. I think I have it stored away somewhere in my gigabytes of Animorphs info I've been collecting over the past ten years.
If I can find it I'll pass it along. :)
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Wow, this whole idea just takes epic to a new level. To be completely honest, being new, I'm a little hesitant to add comment. Still, if I never post I don't get anywhere. Gafrash has some amazing art, and when it comes to a visual novel, or comic, or graphic novel, etc, that is what is showcased. The story can't take a backseat either, and the animorphs is an epic story. But we're led to a problem. The animorphs is rather wordy, lot's of talking, lots of thought processes. Since the book is from first person it's harder to dwell into what the others are thinking. To combat this, we(meaning the people doing this) will be forced to edit the text. when they go over plans, we can just cut to an overhead or something because the readers will see the plan in action. Other, more relationship based text can just be shown, though with restraint. It was a long, long time before Jake and Cassie kissed in the books. But I digress. During some of the required dialogue, we could use more posed or stills to show off more of the artist talent. So that the reader doesn't feel cheated with a lot of text. Moving along to another issue, the webcomic idea is smart, though it requires a lot more work, toward a structured schedule, then people complain when it's not met. Drawing ahead doesn't guarentee that it will stay ahead. So a lot will depend on how understanding the readers will be, as well as how much extra time the artist, and writer, have to work on this. As for a book, maybe do what EGS did, and when a comic set is finished (book 1, book 2, etc) seing if it is possible to publish the comic versions. I've talked to much, but I hope I helped. Good luck.
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I really wish I could help with this, I'm not a good writer really, or a great artist :\
But the art I've seen looks great and if there is anything I can do to help let me know.
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I'm going to go ahead and write part of The Invasion if no one else will. For the record this is going to just be a demo so its not like this is permanent.
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sounds great, you really should.
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yeah im looking forward to seeing it
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Yeah, I am as well...Good luck getting it all done, I can't wait :)
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Let me know if u need any advertisements for it I'd be happy to help out with that
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http://community.livejournal.com/animorphs/440943.html
There's another graphic novel project in the works. :O
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I don't like that person's drawings. Jake is good, but Tobias is drawn as a twin of Jake - seriously, if they were at the same angle I wouldn't be able to tell them apart, and Marco just looks stupid.
No offense to the person doing the project, but I just don't like those drawings beyond Jake.
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I like Jake here, but Tobias doesn't seem enough thin (I imagine him quite slim and eyes, full of dreams, looking at the sky). I also don't like Marco ^^'
So I agree...
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Forget about other projects. I have a draft for The Invasion coming along.
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Here is some progress with the script for the graphic novel. It hasn't gotten far, but I'm working on it.
The Invasion
Frame 1: Show bloody carnage in a war scene. Suggestions include looking at The Triumph of Death
Box narration: May 25 1996
Frame 2: Big red letters “GAME OVER”
Frame 3: Looking from the carnage outward from inside a screen. Jake and Marco. Marco is looking at Jake with a look of both annoyance and pity for his bad gaming skills. Jake seems mildly put off but otherwise doesn’t mind.
Marco: “We’ll Jake, that’s it. End of the world and its all your fault.”
Jake: “Shut up Marco. Its just a game”
Frame 4: Walking out of arcade to into the mall
Marco: “Just a game!? Jake, thousands of innocent pixels were slaughtered because you can’t take my advice.”
Jake: “Marco you take gaming way to seriously.”
Frame 5: Exiting the Mall
Marco: “Okay, if games are so unimportant then why on Earth do you care about not making The Basketball team?”
Jake: That’s different. Tom was a legend on the team. It’s a legacy thing
Frame 6: They are in the parking lot. Cue Tobias in distant background.
Marco: Legacy my as…
Tobias cuts him off: Hey Jake! Wait up
Frame 7: Jake and Marco’s backs seen facing Tobias.
Jake: Hey… Tobias… What’ up
Tobias: I saw you guys and thought we could go home together.
Frame 8: Close up of Tobias’ face, sad pity look. Eyes downward.
Tobias: Plus I never got to thank you about 2 days ago.
Frame 9: Marco to Jake
Marco What happened 2 days ago
Frame 10: Grabbing Tobias in bathroom
Frame 11: Bullies holding Tobias upside down over toilet. Consider to have toilet look disgusting
Frame 12: Jake enters the bathroom and looks at the bullies as if they are lower life forms.
Jake: Stop it
Frame 13: Back in the present.
Jake: It was nothing (Jake says it in a way as to answer Marco and Tobias at the same time)
Frame 14:
Tobias: So you want to head out?
Jake: Well…
Frame 15: Jake spots Rachel and Cassie in the distance
Jake: Hey Rachel Cassie!
Frame 16: Cassie and Rachel up close. Cassie is squinting with her hand over her forehead as to see who is calling them. Rachel looks a little nervous but still has her Xena ****iness about her. This is most likely do to her recognition of Tobias.
Cassie: Rachel I think that’s Jake and Marco, but who’s the third kid?
Rachel: Marco’s with him, well that kills my perfect night shopping. Oh…I’ve seen the other kid around. I think his name’s Tobias, but I’m probably wrong though, I barely know him.
Frame 17: The two groups meet up, we come in a few seconds into the conversation
Jake: …So this is Tobias
Cassie: Is shooting Rachel an incredulous look as if to say “Yea, like you didn’t know his name”
Rachel: Hi
Frame 18: Conversation continued
Marco: (Trying his macho man act on Rachel) So you girls aren’t heading home through the construction site are you?
Rachel: We weren’t planning on it, but if think you need an escort Marco…
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Hey everyone, firstly, a HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!!! I know I don't know any of you personally, but I know there are human beings behind these posts and that you all have hopes, like me, that 09 will be a prosperous year. May we all achieve what we want to achieve this year!!!
I've been enjoying my holidays, been beaching it every chance I get, and drawing a bit on the sides still. Some more character-related stuff. For now I'll post my stuff on me Photobucket when I get a chance on the following days.
WOLFEV, THAT'S REAL GREAT STUFF YOU MADE THERE!! Two thumbs up mate!
You are really creative with your dialogues and that scene is just as I pictured Jake and Marco to be talking. I would LOVE to have a go at DRAWING IT!
I tried something similar when I came across that scene, and you did a lot more justice to their character-voices. I really love it!
Where abouts did you get up to in your script?!
I must confess here, that because I have not seen any scripts, I took it upon myself to somewhat make me a script for book 1, too.
And now I understand why it can be hard and overwhelming to actually come up with something. As some of you will find, there's quite a lot to determine and write when you actually sit down and do it. As it is, I've got more than 40 pgs up to the part where Elfangor dies!!
Perhaps I can send it to ya and we can bounce back ideas?! Let us know.
PS: There is the 'slight' problem that file is on my computer back in Melbourne. And I am in holidays in Perth! Nghaaaaaaaaaaarrrrr rgh!!!!!
http://community.livejournal.com/animorphs/440943.html
There's another graphic novel project in the works. :O
Mirienne, I'd like to jump platforms and post on that Forum for that artist. Or maybe via Deviant Art. If anyone here finds that double-crossing with the Forum... I knew we wouldn't be the only ones, but I didn't even know there were other Forums that were doing this!
Do you think I am wrong to think of a combined effort?!
I think we should encourage die-hard fans to do more stuff like this. If we are all still thinking and dreaming Animorphs, DECADES AFTER IT FINISHED, we should DO SOMETHING!!! A Graphic Novel is just ONE way to keep Animorphs alive!!
I don't like that person's drawings. Jake is good, but Tobias is drawn as a twin of Jake - seriously, if they were at the same angle I wouldn't be able to tell them apart, and Marco just looks stupid.
No offense to the person doing the project, but I just don't like those drawings beyond Jake.
Desperado Newfie, unless one has a methodical style, it's REALLY hard for one to keep consistency in the drawings of characters. Things like hairstyles and skin colour, EVERYTHNG is like codes, which readers, as you showed, look for in identifying a character and etc... they need to be established at the early stages and it's a long-pace before drawing the comic stage. I can relate to this particular stage taking TOO LONG to make and SOMETIMES, you just want to draw the comic and see what you get. But, like Acre Lorraine stated up there, these details and the story itself can't be ignored if you want to have a memmorable product.
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Send me your info. We'll bounce ideas and this will be fraking perfect
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Wolfev, I also really like what you wrote ^^
Please, Gafrash, do it!!
And I agree, it's very very hard to imagine what you'll write and draw. I'm drawing another manga but I'm on the same page for many times now ^^' I don't know exactly what I'll draw after, and I need more time to think about the characters' bodies (they're aliens). And I always think "Oh! It's way to long for 1 or 2 chapters! My manga club will have only the beginning of the beginning of the story!"... So I understand your problem, Gafrash... Good luck! Be brave, you can do it! You're far better than me and you draw more quickly too. Think about all the people who are waiting for your webcomic ^^ it'll give you courage ;)
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Let's do it!!!
Wolfev, check your inbox, there. Write more later!
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I'm still a total n00b, and rather hesitant to post in this thread but... well... I've been playing with the idea of drawing up a comic for animorphs for years now. Even drew some pages way back when until I discovered in middleschool guns and spaceships were HARD to draw.
I'm in college now, and wanting to be a professional illustrator, and I'm currently putting together a porfolio to submit to various art schools I want to attend, so I'm looking for various projects to work on for my porfolio, as well as just something in general to keep me constantly drawing.
So... I'd be willing to help out on this. Sounds like a fun project. Warning though, I'm a slow worker with school and everything else, and it could take me up to a week sometimes to get a page done, but I'd love to help out.
Anyway, it's not much, but here's a sample of a fancomic I worked on a couple years back (2005, omg I'm getting OLD). I like to think I've gotten better, but I haven't tried a comic style in years.
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Fangirls-R-Scary-first-page-20164853
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Vasquez-style-MCR-comic-page01-20281607
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Think-Happy-Thoughts-Issue-00-20005277
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Issue-4-Fangirls-Part-B-47022686
Random art pieces:
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Escape-From-Wonderland-47111190
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Helena-Cover-Draft-37561554
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Helena-18222718
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Demolition-Lovers-Inked-20940697
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Issue-4-The-Patient-47022561
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Demolition-Lover-Girl-Art-N-48697671
http://madteaparty.deviantart.com/art/Fear-and-Regret-Art-N-Draft-48697241
I'm heavily manga influenced, but I like trying different things, and different styles. Still trying to come up with my own style in fact. I prefer to work in black and white, but I'm learning slowly with color since I got a graphics tablet for Christmas. I can do everything from pencil drawings, inking, and attempt at coloring at the moment.
As you can tell, I'm a My Chemical Romance fangirl, but I'm just posting that because that's pretty much all I have uploaded online. It gives you an idea of the various things I can do.
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i've seen that before, actually.
weird, i'm already subscribed to you (before you posted crayak).. and i didn't even know you were on RAF.
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Lol, I just joined like... the day before yesterday. I'm rarely on deviantart anymore.
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You're a very good drawer ^^
Gafrash, don't you think she can help you?
I'm already imagining how she would draw creepy Controllers and show the paranoia in the Animorphs comic book! >:D
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Welcome to RAF Aila. I simply have to devwatch you :D. Very nice gallery indeed.
So, is this project still active?
I've been thinking about the Animorphs graphic novels and I must say that adapting all 54 books is quite a heavy work. I suggest you guys use some of the ideas from the Animorphs Movie topic? There are some good ways to compress the whole series into a trilogy or quardilogy.
I'm quite busy right now with schoolwork and my own projects to work on, but if there is anything I can do to help, just pm (covers or promo perhaps?). Tomorrow I will scan some Animorphs fan art. I haven't draw anything Ani related since the series ended.
Here is my gallery :) http://tta269.deviantart.com/
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Oh wow, gorgeous. *kyaas over your Batman and Little Mermaid fanarts* Ooo, I love your Evil Snow White. And your cat is really cute! The Thing-Santa cracked me up.
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Aw, thank you Aila. I must give you karma for this.
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Guys, I'm still on holis and away from my computer. So I haven't continued any roughs for scripting. I would have loved to bounce some stuff with wolfev, but while away, it's a bit difficult to show him what I mean.
Though I have been drawing still, I have not been colouring anything in. I've got some new stuff, but would really like to see someone else having a go at colouring them in. I've posted this up in my Deviant Journal, hoping to get the attention of some keen colourist, but there's been no reply so far.
Ignoring the fillers and editting the important vital material, the series can def be divided into major arcs and then into a series of issues. But I think it's too early to split it into 3 or 5 or whatevers. We just don't know in fact what we have. What we want to keep and scratch and so on.
I say forget all the questions for now, like 'how many pages', 'how many books', 'should this be a webcomic or a pg comic thing', IF WE DON'T HAVE A DECENT SCRIPT IT CAN'T WORK!!!
I REALLY WISH WE WERE PHYSICALLY AROUND EACH OTHERS so we could cook up this thing more effectivelly.
I need to check out this movie scripting thing. Are people discussing anything more than just splitting the series on that thread?!
You guys have real kewl stuff, Aila and tta269. Please have a go at drawing some Animorphs stuff and show us how you feel about making a contribution.
PS: Wolfev, where you at, mate?!
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Hey Gafrash, I was just looking at your map of what you think their town would look like, and it's actually almost exactly like the Santa Cruz/Capitola area in California. Go to google earth and type in "Capitola, CA," turn it so the west faces up and you'll see that it is extremely similar. It could very well be the city that KA was thinking of, since Santa Barbara and other Southern Californian cities are too densely populated and don't have enough forestry. Also, if you have any American/Californian culture questions you would like me to try to answer (since I live in California), feel free to ask!
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Holy! Awesome, dude! Very interesting, rossabo!!!
Googlemaps also gave me some pics and street view of the Santa Cruz area. WICKED!!!
And thanks for the offer, mate. You are now my Californian expert slash contact. ;D Hehehehe ;D
The city seems to be average in size. There seems to be one main highway and a river cuts the city. There's some valley's inland. Reckon some of that could be reserves of National forest.
What do you reckon!?!?!? Think we've found the Ani's town?!!!!
I can't spot any big malls though? Reckon you could find me a decent picture of a mega mall in the area?!
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There's a mall called the Capitola Mall. http://www.shopcapitolamall.com/map.asp
It's a decent mall- not a megamall, but it has quite a few shops with a food court and everything. Unfortunately, it is not two-stories or three stories. But whatever, that's not completely important.
I go to school at the University of California in Santa Cruz. You know what's extremely ironic? Our mascot is... are you ready?...
The banana slug! And no, that is not a joke. Our mascot was featured in Pulp Fiction, in that scene where they had to change their outfits after shooting the guy in the car. Anyways, the whole geography is scarily similar to what the town is like in Animorphs. You would think that the beach, farmland/plains and the forest all within a ten mile radius would be impossible or farfetched, but honestly it is exactly like that in Santa Cruz. The redwood forests are right behind the school, and the ocean is a couple of miles in front of the school.
I get the feeling that the city in Animorphs wasn't a major city. In the Visser book, she said that they decided against Hollywood because it was too big of a task or something along the lines of that. So I would think that it is smaller than big cities like Hollywood and Santa Monica, but big enough to host international events.
Holy! Awesome, dude! Very interesting, rossabo!!!
Googlemaps also gave me some pics and street view of the Santa Cruz area. WICKED!!!
And thanks for the offer, mate. You are now my Californian expert slash contact. ;D Hehehehe ;D
The city seems to be average in size. There seems to be one main highway and a river cuts the city. There's some valley's inland. Reckon some of that could be reserves of National forest.
What do you reckon!?!?!? Think we've found the Ani's town?!!!!
I can't spot any big malls though? Reckon you could find me a decent picture of a mega mall in the area?!
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Agreed!
Kewl! But I am not getting much imagery. Either way, we can MAKE it 3 stories and so on.
What about something referencial to The Gardens in the area? A fun park of some sort neighbouring a zoo...
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Well, if you need some reference pics, here's what I can find of the geography and the forestry. This could be the general idea of Cassie's farm (a farm on the outer edge of the forest):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/462487501_d20cf9e688_o.jpg
http://www.campusexplorer.com/media/376x262/University-of-California-Santa-Cruz-E6E55C39.jpg
Her farm would be about 500 feet in elevation, with the forest and mountains behind it climbing to 1000-2000 feet in elevation
The forestry itself consists of mostly Sequoia trees, as well as pine trees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoia
As far as a zoo and an amusement park goes, we do not have one up here. However, I am pretty certain that the zoo KA was referencing would be the Santa Barbara zoo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Barbara_Zoo
Unfortunately, there aren't very many photos of the zoo that show it from an overhead view. But from the limited pictures I have seen of it (I haven't been there myself), it appears to have a very outdoors kind of atmosphere. It's about 30 acres big. I think it would be similar to the Taronga Zoo in Sydney, if you have ever been there. However, we do not have a zoo/amusement park hybrid here in California, or anywhere else I can think of, so I guess you'll have to make a hybrid for that.
I think for locations, your map is perfect. The city in Animorphs was roughly molded after some place like Santa Cruz, but some things were just thrown in, like the zoo/amusement park hybrid.
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Sure, I'm up for some Animorphs fanart. *will get on that at work tomorrow*
My, being a Floridian, I always thought of Tampa, FL as being their city. Ocean, but there's no serious cliffs though, and no mountains down here, but Florida does have plain/prairie land. I always felt like it had the same major buildings, with a mall, convention center, major highway going through, major navy/air force base, international airport, the Hillsborough River, seaport, is a major concert stop with major league teams, lots of forestry areas, conservations, and farmland when you get out, as well as Bush Gardens, which is full of Roller coaster rides and serious animal research habitats. And then Sea World isn't too far away. And we also have plenty of those awful roadside attractions with gators and crap. Well, not so bad anymore with PETA on the net now.
That, and after reading animorphs, I for the longest time expected slugs to come out of the water spout because I thought the yeerk pool was in the Florida Aquifer.
And oh yeah... Clear Water, home of the Scientology, is considered a part of Tampa. If anyone is a Scientologist , please don't take offense. Just when I read Animorphs, I sort of thought of the sharing as something like it with how they recruit people and stuff. :-X
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/google_map_Tampa.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa,_Florida
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busch_Gardens_Africa
KA lived in Florida for a while, didn't she? Anyway, I never really thought there was a specific city out there she based it on that really had all those land masses, and geographic details. It seemed to me sometimes she'd just pick whatever setting and put it nearby for writing convenience.
If you're still looking for girl fashion ideas of the late 90s look up stuff like Spice Girls, early Britney Spears, No Doubt, etc.
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holy poo poo! i finally had a look at the concept art, and was i blown away! it's freakin awesome! i really can't wait to see where this goes... also, Gafrash, if u need any pics of a massive mall/shopping centre, i could get some pics of one down where i live called Knox City (http://203.84.234.232/amfphp/main/map.php?m=4)
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Thank you too, Hunter.
I can see a map, but not the constructed bulding and location itself. Like, I am interested in how these things look, just to get a feel.
I want to be as close as possible to the Anis town, bt I suppose Mega Malls look the same in most indrustrialized countries.
I just started a related Thread in the FanArt section, so anyone want to contribute with images or visuals of anything related, please post them there!!! Appreciated!
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Hey, i'm all for this project, but being as i am an amazingly bad drawer and not exactly a good scripter, what i could do for this project, in case you accept it, would be translating it to spanish, since i am a native speaker, and it has quite a big market after all, being the third most spoken language. i can also help on the storage part, both having a backup on my computer and uploading it somewhere so it can be downloaded by anyone.
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Hey Lector, welcome aboard!
Appreciated offer, it's a bit early to think about this distribution/download stuff, but please note, that there will be no profit made from this fan-generated thing. Make no mistake, those that do end up contributing will be giving up their time and sweat, with only the sense of achievement and pleasure you get from doing something you like.
I am going to put my foot down and say that "SOMETHING WILL BE MADE!!!"
We can worry about access to the product and download stuff AFTER that.
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Hey Lector, welcome aboard!
Appreciated offer, it's a bit early to think about this distribution/download stuff, but please note, that there will be no profit made from this fan-generated thing. Make no mistake, those that do end up contributing will be giving up their time and sweat, with only the sense of achievement and pleasure you get from doing something you like.
I am going to put my foot down and say that "SOMETHING WILL BE MADE!!!"
We can worry about access to the product and download stuff AFTER that.
Oh, I am fully aware of this. see, I am a fan of a few anime and mangas, and I respect and admire those people who take the time to scan/record them and post them on the net, and to those who translate them for us common folk, for, as you say, "only the sense of achievement and pleasure you get"
And well, my drawing is not the best you've seen, so I offer what I can do best, which would be translation and storage.
PS: thanks for the welcome.
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AWESOME idea. I could write if you don't have one yet....sorry didnt have the patience to read all the threads. ;D
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good idea
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Maybe this will get more attention here. ;D
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Russell, you're a legend! Thanks again for doing the move!
We finally got our own space in the RAF Projects! Hooray!!!
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No problem man :]
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I'm still in to write
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guys i have got a team backing me back here in fiji and theye r not the best but we got plenty of time. So ill see if i can up load this text material i have been writing weethin the week or not. Its kind of like those drama novels we read like: Marco: blahblahblah Racheal: Whateverr
Those sort of things will greatly help a person make the art selecting what conversation to put on which page and pose wile saying it.etc
give me ur comments when its up and ill see what i can doo from there
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...got anything yet?!
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so are we still doing this? cuz i actually think we could get at least the first book done if we put enough effort into it
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I think we could do filler stories of our own that take place in between the main stories. What do you think? I've got some ideas.
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yes good idea
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Okay, guys, it's been a while and I've lost track.
I'm gonna try this.
Who can help with an experimental piece?!?!
Who can turn that first scene where the Anis are introduced to the point where Visser 3 appears, into a decent 'comic-book' script?
How many people can help come up with some image references for fashion, a Mall, an abandoned construction site, etc...?
Who has any experience with type and can add speech balloons and SFX using comic book fonts?
I gotta work on drawing some alien ships. My andalite fighter came out a bit wonky.
I will do my best to co-work with some scripting (page splitting, scene details etc... but dialogues, really not my forte), and come up with pencils for the layouts.
I could in turn ink and colour my drawings, if we can't find anyone else. But all those things must come first.
WHO'S IN?!?!?!
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/Gafrash/Animorphscolouredjpeg.jpg?t=1247828501)
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I'll help in any way I can ;D
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/Gafrash/Animorphscolouredjpeg.jpg?t=1247828501)
that's nice, although the look on Jake's face makes him look a little...mentally challenged, and Marco's skin should be like a very verrrry light brown lol had to point out that he was darker than Cassie. Other than that, this looks really good
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lol i just noticed that!!!
as for the mall shots, in the references thread i posted some pics of the largest shopping center/mall in the southern hemispehere... XD lol
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I can see what you mean, BlueFire!.
People also don't like the tufts of hair on Ax's wrists. These are the sort of things one can fix at the initial stages. It just takes organization.
Hunter, I thank you for the contribution. But the more the merer!
Any of you guys writers?! Where are the aspiring play/screen/book-writers in this Thread?!!?!?
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Gafrash, I looked at your deviant page and it seems you are very good at Animorphs art, and I like your Yeerk pool scene a lot. The only thing I would change is what others have pointed out already which is some of the eyes on the characters are too close together and it makes them look...special. Pretty soon I'm going to have three weeks off from work and school so I am game to write script if you need me. I am pretty decent at designing logos maybe for the covers and such. Here is a quick remake of the normal Animorphs logo, maybe this can work for the graphic novel series. Don't feel like you have to use it, I'm just throwing it out there.
(http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/joefedewa/Animorphslogo.png)
(http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/joefedewa/Animorphslogo2.png)
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WOW! I like what you've done with the logos, Sub Visser-dude. Especially the bottom one. The 'gold' really works.
The feedback is always appreciated. The help with the script would be welcome. Thanks!
I am tied up with uni and work too. But should have a few weeks off mid August. Let's see how we go. I'll contact you through here!
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Okay cool, that is pretty much exactly when I'm free too. Maybe we can crank out The Invasion in that time. I can't wait to get started, keep in touch.
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shouldn't tobias' tail be red? lol great drawing
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:-\ I don't actually think that its that good, try make the mouts lower
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Alright Gafrash, I'm an OK writer. So here's my vision of the first twelve frames of the Animorphs Graphic Novel. If you like it, I'll write some more. I hope it's not too long, but I wanted to capture all of the beginning of the Animorphs series. Once it progresses I can start leaving out more detail.
ANIMORPHS: THE GRAPHIC NOVEL
BOOK ONE
FRAME ONE
Shows Jake in frame, speaking to reader
JAKE: My name is Jake. Just Jake. I can’t tell you my last name, or where I live, because humanity faces a powerful evil who wishes to enslave us and will stop at nothing to do so. If the controllers found out who I was, mankind’s only resistance to this evil would be finished.
FRAME TWO
shows Jake and Marco walking out of arcade at the mall, Tobias approaches them
NARRATION: My life used to be normal until that one Friday night at the mall. Marco and I were headed home from the arcade when we ran into Tobias, a kid who I’d stuck up for at school when he was getting picked on.
TOBIAS: What’s up?
JAKE: We’re just headed home.
MARCO: Some people keep losing our quarters. (gesturing towards Jake)
TOBIAS: Um, can I walk home with you guys?
JAKE: Sure.
FRAME THREE
Jake, Marco, and Tobias run into Rachel and Cassie outside of mall entrance
NARRATION: We spotted Rachel and Cassie near the entrance. Rachel’s my cousin and she's the fashion-type, and she's also the Xena, Warrior Princess type. Cassie I sort of like but am kind of nervous about telling her. She's peaceful by nature and loves animals.
JAKE: You two going home? You shouldn’t head through the construction site by yourselves, I mean, being girls and all.
RACHEL: What’s that supposed to mean? (provoked)
CASSIE: Well, I’d appreciate it if they walked with us, I guess it would make me feel safer.
FRAME FOUR
The five kids walk through a construction site, with half-finished buildings, rusted steel beams, piles of dirt, construction crane
FRAME FIVE
Blue-white light moves across the sky
TOBIAS: Look, up there!
JAKE: What is it?
TOBIAS: I don’t know.
CASSIE: It’s a flying saucer!
FRAME SIX
Shows ship closer and in more detail
RACHEL: It’s coming toward us!
MARCO: We should run and get a camera! Do you know how much money we could get for a video of a real UFO?
JAKE: I don’t know, they might zap you with phasers on full power.
MARCO: That’s only on Star Trek!
FRAME SEVEN
Ship is landing , everyone’s hair sticks straight up
NARRATION: I thought maybe I should run home. But I knew this was an important, amazing thing. I knew I had to stay and see it all. I guess the others felt the same way.
TOBIAS: It’s going to land! (excitedly)
JAKE: It’s coming right at us! (nervously)
FRAME EIGHT
Ship is on the ground, the kids are about ten feet from it
MARCO: We should tell someone. Spaceships don’t just land in the construction site everyday. We’d get on Letterman for sure!
JAKE: Yeah, we should call someone, later. I’m not walking away from this.
RACHEL: We should try and talk to it, if that’s possible. I mean, do they speak English?
CASSIE: Well, everyone speaks English on Star Trek.
TOBIAS: Please come out, we won’t hurt you.
FRAME NINE
ELFANGOR: <I know.>
Everyone freezes and looks confused upon hearing thought-speak for the first time. Elfangor begins to walk from the craft.
JAKE: I assume the rest of you heard that too.
TOBIAS: Can you come out?
ELFANGOR: <Yes. Do not be frightened.>
FRAME TEN
Elfangor is seen in full.
ELFANGOR: <Hello.>
KIDS: Hi. (Looks of disbelief)
FRAME ELEVEN
Elfangor staggers to the ground
CASSIE: He’s wounded! I need to bandage this up! Jake, give me your shirt!
ELFANGOR: <No. I will die. This wound is fatal.>
JAKE: You can’t die, you’re the first alien to ever come to earth!
FRAME TWELVE
ELFANGOR: <No, there have been others.>
TOBIAS: Other aliens? Like you?
ELFANGOR: <Not like me. They are different.>
JAKE: Different? How?
ELFANGOR: <They have come to destroy you.>
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Hey guys. Lurker here. I hope it's not too late to jump on. I'd love to see at least book #1 in comic book form. I'd say I am a pretty good artist, but I've been an anime freak for years, so there are definitely such manga-influenced characteristics as big eyes, small mouth, and stylized bodies in my work. Although in the past year, I've been trying to veer away from that style toward a more Western one and trying my hand at perspective and drawing facial expressions.
Anyway, like I said, I'd love to contribute. I could help out with character and concept sketches or inking and coloring or even do the speech bubbles. However, I'd say my one downfall is coming up with frames and what actually goes inside--but I guess that's the writer's job!
And speaking of writers, I likeed both Homiegee's and Gafrash's scripts. I like how Gafrash made up some original dialogue and toned down the narration--I thought it was more conducive to the comic book form, and I like the pacing in the latter half of Homiegee's script. So, I guess the question is, when are we going to see a full script for book #1? : )
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Note: In fact the manga style 'big eyes, small mouth) come from Disney!! The old manga, and some new manga, don't follow this rule.
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Homiegee, when you say frame, do you mean a panel on a page or an entire page? Beacuse some panels seem like they could be an entire page, and some like they could only be one picture.
If each one represents one panel of a page, I would suggest spacing out the conversations a lot more. Hell, some panels may have no words at all, only a reaction or maybe a sound effect as someone attacks.
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Ok, I've kind of lost this and I'm sorry, but that drawing is FRICKIN' A!
I'm always open for betaing/being a sounding board for any ideas. ^_^
And are we going to stick with the books or are we going to have like...sub-plots?
-t3
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Haven't been here in a while.
Drawing styles aside, with Scripting, it's important to remember the medium you are writing it in. For those of you wanting to have a crack at writing it, I'll try putting it in a nutshell.
PANEL 1-2-3...: roughly describe size according to page and such. One can fit an average of 6-8 panels.
Scene Description: A Long-shot/Medium-shot/Close-up of landscape, character/s, props... positions, gestures, action, doing, saying, expressing something. Detailed.
Narrative Captions/Dialogue/speech/Sound Effects: These follow Scene Description and differ from the Script information by using ALL-CAPITALS. Characters being clearly indicated everytime they speak.
Page breaks: Number and indicate page-breaks by doing a line across the page.
I'll do a short example below.
Eg:
Panel 1 - 1/2pg: A long-shot birds-eye view of the roof of Cassie's barn.
CAPTION: MIDDAY. CASSIE'S PARENT'S BARN.
Panel 2 - 1/3pg: A long-shot of the Anis in the barn. A tense feel as they face each other. Cassie is pausing from feeding a duck to looking at Jake. Tobias is on Rachel's shoulder and they staring at Jake. Ax is in front of Marco, who is sitting uncomfortably on a haystack. Something was said prior to this panel.
Panel 3: Same scene, but for Marco jumping up waving his arms wackily as he breaks the silence.
MARCO: ARE YOU INSANE?!?!
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Like Meanders stated, some panels may have no speech at all. But the Script Writer ALWAYS has to describe the content of the panel or lead the artist onto what can be filled. Doing the panel divisions helps to set out the pace of the storytelling.
Ok, I've kind of lost this and I'm sorry, but that drawing is FRICKIN' A!
I'm always open for betaing/being a sounding board for any ideas. ^_^
And are we going to stick with the books or are we going to have like...sub-plots?...
Hey, traycon3, glad you liked the drawing. Indeed I've been a little lost on this myself with my other commitments. But feeling confident about people's input and fingers crossed that it may well pick up again.
Discussion over how we can write the Graphic Novel aren't really set. So you and anyone else would be welcome to express your opinions here. Cheers!
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Homiegee, when you say frame, do you mean a panel on a page or an entire page?
I mean a panel on a page, with about four panels per page. Granted some of the panels could be larger for more detailed drawings and important scenes.
Haven't been here in a while.
Drawing styles aside, with Scripting, it's important to remember the medium you are writing it in. For those of you wanting to have a crack at writing it, I'll try putting it in a nutshell.
OK, I'll rewrite my script to those specifications.
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is this posted in here already?
just came across it. http://www.charrartist.com/Animorphs/
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I know her. She is an amazing artist.
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So... how's it going?
I wish I could help, but my drawings are amazingly manga influenced, I don't have a tablet, and the art is completely inconsistent.
I would help write, but for some reason, storyboarding comics are such a block for me. Editing is easy, though.
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I think an Animorphs graphic novel in Manga-style would be pretty sweet, personally. I LOVED the Star Wars manga adaptations.
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Too late, Slushie ^^' We decided it'll be made with American-style drawings...
Don't you like Gafrash's drawings?
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I love those as well, lol. I think they're amazing.
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OK, so no problem ^^
[spoiler]A manga-style comics would be cool too... lol[/spoiler]
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So, is this thing still going? Cuz I'm in the process of learning how to do manga styles(so far I can draw heads and faces but that's about it :P) and once my laptop is back I can do some graphic work
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I thought this sounded like fun, but I'm not sure if it's still something relevant?
I'm alright at drawing, but mostly in the manga-style (not exactly average manga, it's more like "my-own-style-manga".)
I would be able to come up with individual illustrations, but not a full comic strip. But I'm not good at colouring..
But here's something I doodled for some days ago:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/Mewtree/IMGP3675.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/Mewtree/IMGP3681.jpg)
They're just doodles, really. Nothing high-quitity xD. The designs are based on the models on the covers (Human Tobias is a mix between the long-haired guy and short-haired guy that is his model(s) + my own way of seeing him)
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That's cute ^^
As Blue, I'd like to know, Gafrash, if you still continue this project. I know drawing with your Hork-bajir host isn't the best and you must be very busy with the invasion as we all are, but... do you still have time and courage to do it?
Please give us some news about you ^^ We don't see you as often as we would like.
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Just a note, from someone working on her own webcomic: Space is tight. Dialogue per panel should be short and brief. Layout of dialogue, ideally, should be done either before or during the art creation, otherwise, it can start to really cramp up the page and make it difficult to read, as I know from experience. :P
I've got a book on writing for comics around here somewhere. I'll dig it up over the next day or two and post up a section or two, and maybe if I'm feeling really adventurous, hook up my scanner and show a few pages I've done of my own stuff. Emphasis on the "maybe" :P
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...As Blue, I'd like to know, Gafrash, if you still continue this project. I know drawing with your Hork-bajir host isn't the best and you must be very busy with the invasion as we all are, but... do you still have time and courage to do it?
Please give us some news about you ^^ We don't see you as often as we would like...
Hey crew, I was very clear at the beginning that this project could not lift off without collaboration. Given the low commitment (ref. lack of frequency people post, little involvement and distant contribution) from the last year in this section, I found myself not popping in here as much as I should have lately. As a result, I only just read this.
Real pity I currently have been bogged down by my work and studies. My daily activities are leaving little time on the side for my artworks and even less time to manage this online.
As much as I still want to see an ANIMORPHS GRAPHIC NOVEL and be a part of it, for the moment I am forced to put this on hold.
However, there's nothing stopping you guys that are still keen (Dameg, Blue M&M, Daxis, Homiegee,)
from generating some real kewl work.
Soon as I find myself with time again, I will shake things here once again.
But we are looking at sometime mid next year...
Haven't been here in a while.
Drawing styles aside, with Scripting, it's important to remember the medium you are writing it in. For those of you wanting to have a crack at writing it, I'll try putting it in a nutshell.
OK, I'll rewrite my script to those specifications.
How did you go, Homiegee?! I got e-mails from a couple of people. Can't remember if I heard back from you...
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I understand you're busy, and the graphic novel is a big work... but I'd like to see you more on RAF. I miss you, man! Please, come sometimes, OK?
PS: I think I wouldn't be really good for a graphic novel ^^' but I try to draw some moments of the books, like the big moments, or random things with a big meaning for us...
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Hey guys. I know I'm not really a part of this project and you probably have other people doing this kinda stuff. But I can't sleep and I was browsing round the topics for this project and thought I'd give some storyboarding a shot. You don't have to use it but let me know if you like it. Hope I was clear enough with the description of positions I doodled out some storyboards but its kinda hard to describe, I could prob scan them if you want.
PANEL 1: Full top ¼ of page.
Scene Description: A Long-shot of arcade. In the middle is Jake and Marco with their backs to us playing a game. Rows of arcade games with various people playing are on the sides to show depth.
Caption (top left): My name is Jake.
Caption (bottom left): Just Jake.
Caption (bottom middle): It would be too risky to tell you my last name.
Caption (bottom right): The controllers are everywhere…
PANEL 2: 1/8th page panel below 1.
Scene Description: Close-up of Jake and Marco playing their game still with backs to us. The game screen reads: GAME OVER.
Caption (top left): And if they find us…
Caption (bottom right): Well let’s just say I don’t want them to find us.
PANEL 3: 1/8th page panel to the right of 2.
Scene Description: Medium shot of Jake and Marco walking through the mall with hands in pockets. Slightly bored expressions.
Caption (top left): We used to be just five normal kids-
Caption (next to Jake): Me
Caption (next to Marco): My best friend Marco
PANEL 4: 1/8th page panel below 2.
Scene Description: Medium shot of Tobias inside music store viewed from outside store. Tobias is waving.
Caption (top left): Tobias. This kid I helped with some bullies once.
Tobias: Hey guys!
PANEL 5: 1/8th page panel below 4.
Scene Description: Close shot of Jake and Marco with Tobias’ head in the foreground. Marco is gesturing with a thumb towards Jake.
Tobias: What’s up?
Jake: Heading home.
Marco: Out of quarters, thanks to certain people.
Tobias: So, like maybe I’ll walk home with you guys?
PANEL 6: 1/4th vertical page panel to the right of 4 and 5.
Scene Description: Medium view of Rachel and Cassie in a clothing store. Rachel is holding up a dress to Cassie and Cassie is looking exasperated.
Caption (next to Rachel): My cousin Rachel.
Caption (next to Cassie): and her best friend Cassie.
Caption (bottom): Rachel is really fashionable and graceful. Cassie is more casual and peaceful.
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PANEL 1: 1/4th vertical page panel.
Scene Description: Medium shot of Cassie and Rachel leaving the clothing store. Jake, Tobias and Marco are in the foreground heading towards them.
Jake: Hey Rachel, you guys heading home?
Caption (bottom right): I guess you could say I kind of like Cassie.
PANEL 2: 1/8th page panel to the top right of 1.
Scene Description: Close up of Jake. Smiling.
Jake: You shouldn’t go through the construction site by yourselves. I mean, being girls and all.
PANEL 3: 1/8th page panel below 2.
Scene Description: Close up of Rachel with Cassie slightly behind her. Rachel has a ****y, challenging look with one eye brow raised. Cassie is eyeing her, waiting for a response.
PANEL 4: 1/4th horizontal page panel below 1 and 3.
Scene Description: Close-up of Rachel on the left side with a challenging angry look on her face. Cassie with a worried look slightly behind her to the right. Jake on the far right side facing Rachel showing the left side of his face with a surprised expression.
Rachel: Are you going to come protect us you big strong ma-a-an?
PANEL 5: 1/8th page panel below 4.
Scene Description: Rachel with challenging look and finger in the air to make a point. Cassie with her hand on Rachel’s shoulder.
Rachel: You think just we’re helpless just because-
Cassie: I’d appreciate it if they did walk home with us.
PANEL 6: 1/8th page panel to the right of 5.
Scene Description: Close up of Cassie on the left side and Jake facing her on the right side. Rachel is on the far left half out of frame with her arms crossed. Jake and Cassie are smiling at each other.
Cassie: I know you’re not afraid of anything, Rachel, but I guess I am.
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PANEL 1: 1/2 page panel.
Scene Description: Long shot. The five ani’s on the bottom middle with backs to us. A road runs to the right and ahead is the construction site. The ani’s are approaching a chain link fence with a KEEP OUT sign that is rusty and has several holes in it. Past the fence the construction site drops down into a small valley giving us a slight aerial view of it. Above is the night sky with stars and a small bright light.
Caption (bottom left): So there we were. The five of us. Five normal mall rats heading home.
Caption (bottom right): Five minutes later, life got a lot scarier.
PANEL 2: 1/4th horizontal page panel below 1.
Scene Description: The five ani’s are walking from left to right on the left side of frame. Behind them is a large crane. Ahead of them is various trash and debris, possibly remnants of a fire and alcohol from a party.
Caption (top left): My parents threatened to ground me til I was 30 if I ever took the shortcut through the construction site.
PANEL 3: 1/8th page panel below 2.
Scene Description: Close up of Marco at the bottom of the frame. Rachel and Cassie are behind him looking around apprehensively.
Marco: You hear that? Yea, definitely an ax murderer.
PANEL 4: 1/8th page panel to the right of 3.
Scene Description: Jake is on the left turning back to talk out of frame. Tobias is on the right looking upward transfixed. Jake is bumping into Tobias.
Jake: Shut up Marco.
Tobias: Look.
Jake: What?
Tobias: Just look.
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I don't really know where to put this, but I'm doing a Western-style comic book version of #5 The Predator on my own time, and was thinking if we were splitting the art duties between various artists/doing artstyle shifts per narrator, I could throw my own work in there. I'll post some of the pages when I get the chance.
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I'll be waiting for them ^^
Usually, for a comic book, you can split the work like this:
- scenario (here the novels are already written, so...)
- script and division (what happens in each picture)
- drawings of the main characters
- drawings of the background (sometimes characters are included, if you don't see clearly who they are)
- inking
- lettering
- coloring
But for now it doesn't seem there is a good organization... So I don't know. Maybe everybody who want to work on the Graphic Novel can say what they want to do (and can do) and then we could make teams.
If you need somebody to organize, I can help. I already do that for the Ebooks. But I won't help you with the drawings, except if I really feel I have enough time to follow the project. I think we have enough good artists on RAF, you don't need me ^^
(edited)
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Lettering, too! It and coloring are the two things I don't do on my own, because I absolutely SUCK at them.
Post Merged: September 01, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
Here's the only page I've finished inking. Haven't added text yet. It's from the second scene in #5, the one where Marco's retelling the story of how he went gorilla and got shot at, and then they meet Ax to discuss stealing a Bug Fighter.
Full-size is here (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/art/The-Predator-Page-3-177708047).
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/244/a/7/the_predator_page_3_by_hotpinkcoffee-d2xswen.jpg)
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..I LOVE IT!!!
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It's awesome!!!! Really, I like your style, particularly Ax!
Only one thing: Rachel's nose is a little too big. But it's a detail. It's just that she's cute so she should be cute all the time ;)
And I edited the list to add lettering. Sorry for forgetting it ^^'
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Rachel's face gives me no end of grief. I can draw pretty girls up close, but at arm's length they all look weird. Everyone's arms look really weird too.
I'm glad you both like it, though! :) Ax is super fun to draw.
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The arms didn't shock me. It's your style, and I have no problem with it. Ax is pretty angular, but I like it like that ^^ Really, the only thing is Rachel on the 3rd pic.
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This is kind of off-topic, but does anyone want to write a script of the whole David trilogy? Or at least for the first book? I've been thinking of doing a graphic novel of the David trilogy, but I have had no time to reread the books in detail and write a script. Plus I'm really bad at describing things and making up dialog if there needs to be made-up dialog.
I've read through some of the scripts in this topic, and I think there's a lot of people are really good at writing scripts and basically verbally storyboarding the events of the story.
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I'd be willing to script #20-22 if no one else would like to. I was considering tackling #22 myself if I finished #5, so I already have some storyboarding ideas.
Page 4 of The Predator, full scale here (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/#/d2xvuoc). Discussing stealing a Bug Fighter, Ax implies Marco's a coward, Marco points out Ax hasn't seen combat, Tobias brings up speeding up Andalite help, and Jake calls a vote. Copious amounts of wite-out and magic eraser used on this whole darn page. Pages 1 and 2 will be up when I obtain more cardboard paper, since they're night scenes. I'm so not looking forward to drawing the mall scene.
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/245/a/8/animorphs__the_predator_page_4_by_hotpinkcoffee-d2xvuoc.jpg)
Is anyone willing to letter? I've done it before but I'm utterly terrible.
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LisaCharly, I love your art. Your inking is really good and even though there aren't any words yet, I know exactly what's going on. If you throw the script at me, I can try my hand at lettering.
And yay for offering to tackle the David trilogy! You don't know what you're getting yourself into. ;D
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This page is awesome too ^^
Why don't you letter it with the computer? I mean, it's pretty easy that way...
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^I've tried lettering with a computer (I used to illustrate a webcomic), but mostly I'm just really clumsy with it. I have no sense of placement or anything.
LisaCharly, I love your art. Your inking is really good and even though there aren't any words yet, I know exactly what's going on. If you throw the script at me, I can try my hand at lettering.
And yay for offering to tackle the David trilogy! You don't know what you're getting yourself into. ;D
Thanks! I'll PM you and work on some David pages today. :)
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Awesome! You can email them to me, since I don't think my PM box has enough space. I'll PM you my address :D
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Hey, everyone. I'm new here, so I apologize if this was already mentioned, but how would <thought-speak> be accomplished in visual/graphic/comic book form? In the books, "Dialogue is like this," and <Though-speak is like this." Internal thoughts are like this. In comic books, normal speech is in circular speech balloons, and thoughts are in cloud thought bubbles, but what about thought-speech? Something triangular? Normal speech balloons but with <these symbols>?
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I propose something like this:
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Dovelina's been doing a lovely job with the thought-speak bubbles being drawn with dotted lines rather than full lines. The effect works well.
Edit: On that note, I'm still working on #5 and the script for #20. Progress has been slower since I'm back at school, but so far I've finished another three pages and just need to scan them. The mall scene was, ugh, so frustrating to draw. I'm glad to be getting to the lobsters now.
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Hey guys, if you want a good site to help ya with typography and onomatopeia, here's a really good one I had found.
http://www.balloontales.com/tips/
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Heyas!
I thought since I was revamping my graphic novel project, I'd make a post about it. I'd really love for everyone to check it out. It's a project I'm working on in my freetime and I don't have a lot of freetime, so any comments, encouragement and such that can be given goes a long way for me to get the motivation to work on the comic when I should be sleeping instead ;)
Anyway... Here's the link: http://www.charreed.com/Animorphs/
If anyone remembers me starting this a long time ago, I had to delete the old site and start over due to technical difficulties with WordPress/ComicPress. It's all better now and I'm planning on another update with full character drawings :) Look forward to seeing posts/comments about it!
Thanks for checking it out!
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I love the designs for them! ;D They're cool.
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It's really good ^^ I also love the graphics!
But this thread isn't in the right place... I would suggest it to be in the Animorphs Fanfiction&Art or even here: http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?board=26.0 (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?board=26.0) (yeah, there is already a project for a Graphic Novel on RAF, and I think you may join your efforts).
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What's this, new pages? Pages 1, 5, 6 and 7 for Animorphs #5: The Predator. The first one's on cardboard because I really like that effect for night scenes. I haven't been able to procure the cardboard yet for the second page, though.
I've been working with a cruddy scanner and on top of schoolwork, so unfortunately this is the best I can do in terms of pacing and scan quality. At least the mall scene is over with! The only fun thing about that scene was drawing Ax's "I just discovered food" face. And golly, the supermarket scene looks slashier than I meant it to be.
Full-size here (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/) at my DeviantArt.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/276/d/1/animorphs__the_predator_page_1_by_hotpinkcoffee-d301i65.jpg)
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/276/6/4/animorphs__the_predator_page_5_by_hotpinkcoffee-d301hs8.jpg)
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/276/d/0/animorphs__the_predator_page_6_by_hotpinkcoffee-d301hx0.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/276/b/d/animorphs__the_predator_page_7_by_hotpinkcoffee-d301i2j.jpg)
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LisaCharly, wow! The wait was worth it, four whole pages. The cardboard is a really great effect, when nowadays most people just slap on a fake-looking texture in Photoshop and call it a day. Bwahaha, I love what's going on in the market scene. Every panel with Ax is gold. I can't wait to do the lettering for them. You have my email!
I also totally have an accidental slash moment in the comic I'm working on where Tobias looks like he's suggestively eating a burger. Sigh, OH WELL. I'm going to get it done and over with and be happy with it!
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Thanks so much! I'm glad the cardboard effect works for you. I've sent you the lettering pages.
Eh, I'd be happy with it too! The weird Marco/Jake slash-ish page is actually my favorite of the bunch so far. I can't wait to see your unintentionally slashy Tobias!
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That's awesome Lisa ^^ Really ^^ I can't believe you drew so many details!
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Those comics are awesome! I can't wait to see more.
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Two more pages. Page 9 is currently in progress because the art store was out of the pens I need to finish it. Page 2 is still...going to happen sometime. I'm rather pleased with the nightmare sequence.
Full size here (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/).
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/306/d/4/animorphs__the_predator_page_8_by_hotpinkcoffee-d321pnz.jpg)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/306/7/6/animorphs__the_predator_10_by_hotpinkcoffee-d321q3h.jpg)
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CharReed, I've checked out your site and I love what I see so far. I left comments on each individual page, so you can see what I thought of each one. I also made a post on my blog today about your project, so hopefully that will also attract more people to it.
LisaCharly, those are amazing drawings! Are you planning on doing full graphic novels as well, from the beginning onwards? That would be awesome - the more Animorphs stuff there is to find online, the better, lol.
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Thanks, Slushie Man! For the time being I'm only set on finishing #5, though if I ever finish it I'm considering doing #7 or #18 after that. I wouldn't want to do #1 as many other talented people, including Charreed, have/are already working on that, but I figured those two have a lot of scenes that would translate well to visual (and I just want to draw Leerans). My style/lack of skill makes each page very time-intensive so who knows?
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Wicked! Looks great, LisaCharly!
Great scene selection and I like the way you did your nightmare sequence, too.
I fancy the feel of the coloured paper, too. You are doing great work with it! Keep it up!
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Thanks, Gafrash! I'm still working on it. I got set a bit back when I ran out of inking pens, but I've finished another five pages and will be trying to upload them this week.
Post Merged: December 17, 2010, 09:13:50 PM
Pages 2, 9, and 11-13 of Animorphs: The Predator. Full view on Hot Pink Deviantart (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/).
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/351/0/0/animorphs__the_predator_page_2_by_hotpinkcoffee-d3530o6.jpg)
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/351/b/0/animorphs__the_predator_page_9_by_hotpinkcoffee-d3530k4.jpg)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/351/5/0/animorphs__the_predator_11_by_hotpinkcoffee-d352zev.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/351/4/4/animorphs__the_predator_12_by_hotpinkcoffee-d35301r.jpg)
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/351/5/b/animorphs__the_predator_13_by_hotpinkcoffee-d3530fx.jpg)
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It's really nice, Lisa ^^
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Great work as always.
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:thumbsup2: :thumbsup: :clap:
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Yay! Good job Lisa. Lemme know if you need any help, photoshop-wise
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haven't read this whole thread, but did anybody see these?
http://www.charreed.com/Animorphs/
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I've read it, and it was great! Good job, really.
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This is awesome stuff, LisaCharly! :D
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Thanks so much, y'all! I'm going to start hosting the lettered pages sometime this month. :-]
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I found somebody on youtube who's working on an Animorphs manga. IDK how far he's gotten or if he's even started but i directed him here to us in case he was interested. I've seen some of his drawings and they're really good.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCreationist1
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The more Animorphs comics (or manga) the better. I hope we get to see some of that artwork in an Animorphs format in the near future.
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Animorphs: The Predator (http://animorphspredator.smackjeeves.com/comics/1067638/page-1-good-samaritanism/) is now online and lettered, one page per week. Dovelina is doing the letters. <3
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Awesome!! Yippeeeee!!!!! :woot:
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Does anyone mind if I crosspost that last post to the Fanfiction and Art subforum? It'd probably be seen by more people that way.
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I don't mind, but I'm not in the staff...
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i'll want to help but i'm not good at drawing.i have some good ideas but i don't like to write/type type much
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Ugh, Lisa, I absolutely love your stuff. I agree with what you said, the nightmare scene is fantastic!
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Yes, there's some great work being created here.
I don't really know what staff you are referring to up there, Dameg. Nothing came out of what I had tried doing a few years back, it wasn't easy orchestrating the whole thing online. And even if there was, these are individual works.
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I thought you continued a little on your own... :'(
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A uni student working part-time doing a whole Animorphs comic on his own?!?! In what homeplanet would such a being exist?
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^It's possible! I'm doing it! You just have to be allergic to the idea of a social life...or showering.
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^ See? ;)
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I must be from a different planet, then. For I don't think I can do a better job than you guys. I had something different in mind...
Keep it up, LisaCharly and Dameg.
"May the Kandrona shine and strengthen you."
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lol Thank you, Gafrash ^^
May It shine on you too, bro'!
We don't see you very often on RAF, I wish you came more...
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Busy with studies and work and hunting. Not necessarily in that order. Wishing I could sketch/draw more. Still popping in whenever I get the chance though. I like our re-reads, though we haven't been getting much recently, here.
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Since I've been previewing unlettered pages here for a while, I should let y'all know that I've added a few more to my DA.
Previews!
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/066/8/b/animorphs__the_predator_19_by_hotpinkcoffee-d3b4ai8.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/066/c/b/animorphs__the_predator_23_by_hotpinkcoffee-d3b4b87.jpg)
Full size and 8 more pages at DeviantArt (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/).
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I know it has been over a year since the last post in this thread, but I only discovered it this week. Just wanted to say, for both CharReed and LisaCharly: fantastic work on both graphic novels!