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RAF Section => Suggestions / Feedback & Issues => Topic started by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 08:31:59 AM

Title: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 08:31:59 AM
Here's my opinion:

If youre a christian and believe in God, you know that he created everything and everyone.

A being with this power and understanding of things should know that a forum posting 'god' isn't blasphemy right? It's no big deal, having God under your name isn't an insult to him or anyone.

Also, I didn't put an 'I don't care' because if you don't care you don't really to worry about it do you :P
BUT! We are open to suggestions, Goom suggested Elite and Uber, both of which I like.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Azguard on September 17, 2009, 09:30:47 AM
I don't mind God. but if come up with a really cool title I wouldn't mind like "Pantheon" even thought that wouldn't really make sense. haha
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 09:41:08 AM
That would be a bad ass name XD
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Ash on September 17, 2009, 12:03:15 PM
I liked Elite way back, and I still like it now :) It'd be great if you went for it.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 01:15:46 PM
If it gets changed I think Elite is a great contender.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 17, 2009, 01:24:09 PM
Is there any possibility of ever adding new ranks?  Because I like "Elite," but I also want to keep "God" (mainly because I aspire to be one someday  :D)

Maybe Elite could be the rank right underneath God, if it's possible and/or a good idea to add new ranks?  I ask if it's a good idea, mainly because it occurs to me that we have quite a good number of ranks already, so I don't know if adding more would make things too messy.  :-\
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 17, 2009, 01:46:27 PM
IMO, if people become a God rank, they can ask for a new rank to be created just for them (Estelore is an example). I'm pretty sure, since Richard did it for some one, he can do it for someone else.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
IMO, if people become a God rank, they can ask for a new rank to be created just for them (Estelore is an example). I'm pretty sure, since Richard did it for some one, he can do it for someone else.

True, but it could become an issue once more and more people get over 5000 posts.

I'm not opposed to adding new ranks but the real issue is the religious thing.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 17, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
Have there been people complaining? because I have not seen a thread about it in a LONG time! lol. If people are complaining (must be by PM), then that's definately a reason to change it. But if some one just brings back the issue from back when we first argued about it, for the sake of arguing it, then I don't see a reason.

Just saying.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 05:44:09 PM
I wouldnt have made this poll if it hasnt been brought up again.  lol im not gonna waste my time.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 17, 2009, 05:45:22 PM
I think that changing it to Elite would be a great idea. That way we can be sure that the ranking does not offend anyone.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Mr. Guy36 on September 17, 2009, 08:20:27 PM
It doesn't bother me one bit, but I'm giving a very qualified "no."

If others think it should be changed, I am not against changing it. I myself, however, do not mind God at all.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 17, 2009, 09:20:22 PM
Well so far, no seems to be winning.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 17, 2009, 10:27:54 PM
I liked Elite way back, and I still like it now :) It'd be great if you went for it.

me too. sounds cooler.
i personally am not offended by the title 'god', but if there's a better title out there and it won't offend anybody, i'm all for it. :)

IMO, if people become a God rank, they can ask for a new rank to be created just for them (Estelore is an example). I'm pretty sure, since Richard did it for some one, he can do it for someone else.

i don't think that should be needed. if we just create a completely different title, we won't have a ton of different ranks to manage.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Liz on September 18, 2009, 12:13:54 AM
I don't care about the religious thing, but I voted yes because I like Elite better.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on September 18, 2009, 12:31:39 AM
Honestly, it *does* offend me a little. More in an OCD way, though. And I know a few other people that dislike it for whatever reason. I haven't voted because I'm using the cell to post. But I will when I get to the computer. I like Elite much better. Uber is cool, too. Or how about Uber Extreme? That keeps with the JR Extreme\Extreme theme.... Honestly, one of the reasons I donated was so that I'd never get the God tittle. Lol. I just think it's a little blasphemous. And I play D&D! Lol. Ooh! How about Forum Deity? That keeps the same theme, without the same blaspheme level... Lol.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Adrian Malacoda on September 18, 2009, 12:48:28 AM
"Uber" sounds plain silly to me; it evokes images of "leet haxxors" (13 year olds who've figured out how to run a "hacking program") bragging about "uber leet pwnage" or some such tripe. I don't really mind God, but if we had to change it, Elite would be a good choice.

Interesting tidbit: from what I remember, the God rank on Proboards/Conforums comes from the original software, YaBB, that those forum sites descended from. SMF is also a (distant) descendant of YaBB (and therefore cousin to Conforums), but in a default SMF, the word "Hero" is used for that level.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kelly on September 18, 2009, 01:56:25 AM
I'm happy with God, but Elite is a fine second :)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 18, 2009, 02:14:52 AM
"Uber" sounds plain silly to me; it evokes images of "leet haxxors" (13 year olds who've figured out how to run a "hacking program") bragging about "uber leet pwnage" or some such tripe. I don't really mind God, but if we had to change it, Elite would be a good choice.

yeah, elite sounds much better.
i wasn't really considering uber, just throwing suggestions out there.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Ash on September 18, 2009, 03:03:51 AM
Elite ftw! My point is, if you COULD have another title which DOESN'T offend anyone (I don't see Elite or Pantheon going down too badly), why wouldn't you? XD So, what's the verdict? There's a lot of 'no's there though :(
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 18, 2009, 03:30:44 AM
So, what's the verdict? There's a lot of 'no's there though :(

there's still a chance. not everybody has seen it.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 18, 2009, 01:13:33 PM
Elite ftw! My point is, if you COULD have another title which DOESN'T offend anyone (I don't see Elite or Pantheon going down too badly), why wouldn't you? XD So, what's the verdict? There's a lot of 'no's there though :(

This is a good point. *considers*
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 18, 2009, 01:40:10 PM
Hmm.  While I'm starting to agree that "God" is probably too offensive to some people, I think that "Elite" just doesn't sound as bad-a$$ as "God" does.  At the very least, I think "Elite" should be a lower rank, perhaps the second-to-top, but not quite at the top.

Perhaps "Deity" or "Omnipotent Being" or "Supreme Being" could be substituted as a less-offensive version that still says more-or-less the same thing?

Hehe, if we're keeping the "Jr. Xtreme Member" - > "Xtreme Member" trend, then the next one maybe should be "Supreme Xtreme Member."  Or even just "Supreme Member"?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not bashing "Elite."  I think it's a fine rank.  I just don't think it's the best possible name to give to the very highest rank that can be attained.  "Elite" carries the connotation of 'one of the best' whereas "God", or even "Supreme Member" carries the connotation of 'the absolute best there is.'

And if anyone suggests an idea that I like as much as "God," then I will change my vote from "no" to "yes."
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Ash on September 18, 2009, 01:48:34 PM
Hmm.  While I'm starting to agree that "God" is probably too offensive to some people, I think that "Elite" just doesn't sound as bad-a$$ as "God" does.  At the very least, I think "Elite" should be a lower rank, perhaps the second-to-top, but not quite at the top.

Perhaps "Deity" or "Omnipotent Being" or "Supreme Being" could be substituted as a less-offensive version that still says more-or-less the same thing?

Hehe, if we're keeping the "Jr. Xtreme Member" - > "Xtreme Member" trend, then the next one maybe should be "Supreme Xtreme Member."  Or even just "Supreme Member"?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not bashing "Elite."  I think it's a fine rank.  I just don't think it's the best possible name to give to the very highest rank that can be attained.  "Elite" carries the connotation of 'one of the best' whereas "God", or even "Supreme Member" carries the connotation of 'the absolute best there is.'

And if anyone suggests an idea that I like as much as "God," then I will change my vote from "no" to "yes."

But Dino.. there are a couple of 'gods' already. That way, Elite/OtherTitle makes even more sense. Cuz there are a couple of 'best ones' out there  :-\
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 18, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
Hmm.  While I'm starting to agree that "God" is probably too offensive to some people, I think that "Elite" just doesn't sound as bad-a$$ as "God" does.  At the very least, I think "Elite" should be a lower rank, perhaps the second-to-top, but not quite at the top.

Perhaps "Deity" or "Omnipotent Being" or "Supreme Being" could be substituted as a less-offensive version that still says more-or-less the same thing?

Hehe, if we're keeping the "Jr. Xtreme Member" - > "Xtreme Member" trend, then the next one maybe should be "Supreme Xtreme Member."  Or even just "Supreme Member"?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not bashing "Elite."  I think it's a fine rank.  I just don't think it's the best possible name to give to the very highest rank that can be attained.  "Elite" carries the connotation of 'one of the best' whereas "God", or even "Supreme Member" carries the connotation of 'the absolute best there is.'

And if anyone suggests an idea that I like as much as "God," then I will change my vote from "no" to "yes."

But Dino.. there are a couple of 'gods' already. That way, Elite/OtherTitle makes even more sense. Cuz there are a couple of 'best ones' out there  :-\

Yeah, I am aware of that.  That wasn't really the point I was trying to make.  I'm just having trouble finding the words for what I'm trying to say.

I guess my real point was that "Elite" just feels like a step down from "God."  And I don't want that.  I want a rank that will convey the same sense of superiority that "God" connotes.  For one, I don't want anyone who's already reached "God" status to suddenly go "WTH?  I'm only Elite, now?  I was a God!  I've been demoted!"  And for another, heck, I want to be able to feel extra super-special when I get to 5000 posts.  It's a big number.  We should all get to feel extra special when we reach it.  And "Elite" doesn't really do that for me.

Am I making sense?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Ash on September 18, 2009, 01:59:04 PM
Yup, I get what you mean perfectly  :) Thanks for clarifying.

Well, I've made my points. I leave the rest to you guys  :)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 18, 2009, 03:09:40 PM
I got what you meant dino and I'll take that into consideration as well :]
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on September 18, 2009, 04:19:38 PM
I like Supreme Being! I like it a lot! Feels kinda... breezy. ;)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: SuperBlue on September 18, 2009, 08:05:22 PM
aaaw i like the God rank. Don't change it! im christian and im sure a good amount of RAFians are and I have no problem with it. I vote to not change it. Elite just doesn't sound right it sounds like it'd be under Xtreme and jr Xtreme
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 18, 2009, 10:18:05 PM
due to a request, i have initiated the 'allow users to change vote' on the poll.

this won't affect the current results, but if you want to change your vote you now can.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: VisserZer0 on September 19, 2009, 12:17:05 AM
What about The One? An Animorphs themed rank for an Animorphs forum. The One is like some kind of omnipotent being, anyway. I dunno. Just think it sounds cooler.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 19, 2009, 12:26:27 AM
that's pretty clever.

i've always considered making the ranks animorph-themed.
i'll keep that in mind if we ever change it.
(any other suggestions for the ranks?)

http://blog.animorphsforum.com/2008/07/detailed-member-ranks-groups-info.html
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on September 19, 2009, 01:33:48 AM
I still like Supreme Being. Lol. Again, breezy.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 19, 2009, 09:51:30 AM
How is supreme being "fresh and animated"
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 19, 2009, 10:45:57 AM
I would think that's just as "offensive" as god?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 19, 2009, 11:32:56 AM
I'm just saying that the definition of breezy doesn't seem to fit a supreme being XD
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 19, 2009, 06:25:40 PM
What about "Post-Master"? (that sounds like a mailing term lol)

Post-God (to differentiate)

"Master-Poster"
"Expert Poster"
"5000+ Club Member"
"Poster Extrodinaire"
"Posting Elite"


"Insane Member"

Now, this one fits with the current theme of ranks (Extreme member, Jr. Extreme Member, etc.), and we also say that at RAF, you must hand your sanity over at the door. To get over 5000+ posts would officially classify you as not having your sanity at all. I dunno, just some ideas.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 19, 2009, 10:26:14 PM
if we did animorph themed, here's my suggestions:
(not necessarily in any order)

Lurker - yeerk
Newbie - gedd
Jr. Member - taxxon
Full Member - hork bajir
Sr. Member - leeran
Hero Member - human
Jr. Xtreme Member - andalite
Xtreme Member - pemalite
God - ketran
Banned - nothlit

Donator -
Gold Member -
Jr. Staff - drode
Sr. Staff - ellimist/crayak
Administrator - the one


any other suggestions? maybe we could do ranks, like visser and prince?
seer?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 19, 2009, 10:29:16 PM
...Yeerks are more 'intelligent' and more...IDK, than Taxxons and Gedds. I know they're not everyone's favorite species, but I don't think they should be at the bottom of the list.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 19, 2009, 10:30:15 PM
well, i was ranking yeerks by their sole capabilities. being blind and deaf, y'know? :P

maybe human should be at the bottom? or helmacron?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 19, 2009, 10:31:16 PM
Still. Then shouldn't Gedds be ranked above taxxons?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Durpicorn! on September 19, 2009, 10:32:48 PM
I think Human would be good for lurker, cuz they don't have any powers or anything. Otherwise, I don't know enough about the series to have much of an opinion.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 19, 2009, 10:33:45 PM
I don't think we should change all the ranks...
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 19, 2009, 10:34:45 PM
i know, i'm just thinking out loud. :)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 19, 2009, 10:35:35 PM
Well...also, if this did happen. I think Staff and Admins should stay staff and admins. I think that would help to prevent any confusion.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 19, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
Yeah if we did I think donaters, gold members, and staff shouldn't change. 
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 19, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
personally i don't like it because it does seem a bit blasphemous (hence why my g is lower cased). but i would perfer to do away with it all together.

the animorphs one is a great idea and makes sense. I am on other forums where they have the levels correlating with characters or other titles from the books
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 19, 2009, 10:47:27 PM
Well...also, if this did happen. I think Staff and Admins should stay staff and admins. I think that would help to prevent any confusion.

yeah that would probably be a good idea.

Lurker - yeerk
Newbie - gedd
Jr. Member - taxxon
Full Member - hork bajir
Sr. Member - leeran
Hero Member - human
Jr. Xtreme Member - andalite
Xtreme Member - pemalite
God - ketran
Banned - nothlit

Donator -
Gold Member -
Jr. Staff - drode
Sr. Staff - ellimist/crayak
Administrator - the one
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 19, 2009, 11:24:15 PM
AND BTW i think banned should stay banned
just cuz i like that emphasis associated with their name (im thinking of one member in particular when i say that)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 19, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
Well...also, if this did happen. I think Staff and Admins should stay staff and admins. I think that would help to prevent any confusion.

yeah that would probably be a good idea.

Lurker - yeerk
Newbie - gedd
Jr. Member - taxxon
Full Member - hork bajir
Sr. Member - leeran
Hero Member - human
Jr. Xtreme Member - andalite
Xtreme Member - pemalite
God - ketran
Banned - nothlit

Donator -
Gold Member -
Jr. Staff - drode
Sr. Staff - ellimist/crayak
Administrator - the one


Hey, this thread was started because some people thought "God" was offensive, and then you go and suggest that we call banned people "nothlits"?  >:(

(J/k.  Mostly.)

Anyway, yeah, I like the idea of Animorphs-themed ranks, but I don't know if they should be named after species.  Maybe ranks, instead?  Like, a mix of Andalite and Yeerk ranks (since those are the main species we know the ranking systems of)?

How about:

Lurker - Aristh
Newbie - Sub-visser
Jr. Member - Warrior
Full Member - Prince
Sr. Member - Tactical Officer
Hero Member - Seer
Jr. Extreme Member - Visser
Xtreme Member - War-Prince
God - Councilor
[spoiler]As in, Council of Thirteen?[/spoiler]

Banned - Vecol

Anyway, even after having said all that, I still like the current system a lot.  Is there any way to implement something so that people could choose between the two systems?  Like, a Lurker could choose whether to be called a "Lurker" or an "Aristh" (or "Yeerk"), and so on as they go up the ranks?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 19, 2009, 11:38:24 PM
counselor?

yeah, ranks would work, too.
sorry about the nothlit thing.. it was the only status i could think of that would somewhat fit. ;)

there's a lot of options to consider. i don't mind the current system too much, anyways, just that one rank.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 20, 2009, 12:02:07 AM
counselor?

yeah, ranks would work, too.
sorry about the nothlit thing.. it was the only status i could think of that would somewhat fit. ;)

there's a lot of options to consider. i don't mind the current system too much, anyways, just that one rank.

Ah, yes, I thought I was spelling that wrong.

And it's okay about the nothlit thing.  I know you didn't mean it that way.  ;)

I think that, if we could find a way to let each person choose between an "Animorphs" system and a "Default" system, then that would be ideal.  I just don't know if that's possible or feasible, or how that could be implemented.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: VisserZer0 on September 20, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
Couldn't vecol also be considered offensive? Andalites use the term 'vecol' to talk about dissabled Andalites, who they show antagonism towards (as we saw in book #40). I know it would be used for banned people, but still.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 20, 2009, 12:31:27 AM
well, i don't want to be calling banned members disabled..
good idea, though.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 20, 2009, 09:52:52 AM
I like DN's idea. But I agree that Banned, Gold members, donators, staff should all stay what they are now.

I'd also say that "War Prince" sounds more important/better than Councilor, so I'd say flip flop the two.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 20, 2009, 11:34:51 AM
Lurker - Aristh
Newbie - Sub-visser
Jr. Member - Warrior
Full Member - Prince
Sr. Member - Tactical Officer
Hero Member - Seer
Jr. Extreme Member - Visser
Xtreme Member - War-Prince
God - Councilor

That I like, I really wish Richard would voice his opinion on all this though.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 20, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
Couldn't vecol also be considered offensive? Andalites use the term 'vecol' to talk about dissabled Andalites, who they show antagonism towards (as we saw in book #40). I know it would be used for banned people, but still.

Good point, I hadn't really thought about it that way.  Hmm, maybe we just need to keep them listed as "Banned."

I like DN's idea. But I agree that Banned, Gold members, donators, staff should all stay what they are now.

I'd also say that "War Prince" sounds more important/better than Councilor, so I'd say flip flop the two.

Yeah, that's a good point.  Besides, it would be best to have the very top rank be an Andalite rank, rather than a Yeerk rank, anyway.  Nothing against the fine Yeerks on this site, of course, but most people seem to like Andalites better (for some inexplicable reason :huh:).

And another thing.  Does anybody know which one is actually a higher rank: Prince, or Tactical Officer?  Because I just realized that I put T.O. above Prince, and now that I think about it, that doesn't seem right.  So we should maybe switch those two around, as well.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Liz on September 20, 2009, 12:52:31 PM
Lurker - Aristh
Newbie - Sub-visser
Jr. Member - Warrior
Full Member - Prince
Sr. Member - Tactical Officer
Hero Member - Seer
Jr. Extreme Member - Visser
Xtreme Member - War-Prince
God - Councilor

That I like, I really wish Richard would voice his opinion on all this though.

Ooh, I like this too.
Not so sure about the other Animorphs-themed rankings...it doesn't seem as obvious what rankings are higher than others, if that makes sense.

And yeah, I think Prince and T.O. should be switched.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 20, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
ya, prince seems too low in the ranks to make any sense :-\


and i think an andalite title should replace god status as opposed to a yeerk title. makes more sense with more ppl liking andalites over yeerks
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 20, 2009, 03:32:17 PM
Okay, so how's this order instead?

Lurker - Aristh
Newbie - Sub-visser
Jr. Member - Warrior
Full Member - Tactical Officer
Sr. Member - Seer
Hero Member - Prince
Jr. Extreme Member - Visser
Xtreme Member - Counselor
God - War-Prince

But I keep thinking that we need something higher/more important-sounding than either Counselor or War-Prince to replace "God."  But I keep coming up blank.  The Electorate is the highest Andalite ranking I can think of, but they're a group, like the Senate, not a person.  Captain is a pretty high rank for Andalites, but I don't know if I like the sound of it.

And I don't want to use Ellimist or Crayak, because they're both too specific.

Perhaps "Hyper-Dimensional Entity"?

If we did that, I think we should take out Counselor, and bump War-Prince down to where Xtreme Member was.  I mean, Counselor doesn't actually sound very important at all, now that I think about it, since it could refer to any council, not just the Council of thirteen.  :-\

So:

Lurker - Aristh
Newbie - Sub-visser
Jr. Member - Warrior
Full Member - Tactical Officer
Sr. Member - Seer
Hero Member - Prince
Jr. Extreme Member - Visser
Xtreme Member - War-Prince
God - ??? (Captain, Hyper-Dimensional Entity . . . any other ideas?)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Richard on September 20, 2009, 04:01:46 PM
That I like, I really wish Richard would voice his opinion on all this though.
My opinion: If I had a problem with the ranks as they are, I would have changed them ;)

If it ain't broken..
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 20, 2009, 05:14:18 PM
aww rich, its an animorphs forum. animorph rankings would be awesome
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 20, 2009, 06:02:14 PM
If it ain't broken..

break it! :D

seriously though, i understand where you're coming from.
and now that changing god isn't ahead in the polls, i guess it's safe to say it'll stay as is.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Kit Cloudkicker on September 20, 2009, 06:18:26 PM
Pfft. I like DN's rankings!
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 20, 2009, 06:27:56 PM
i'd wana be a tactile officer. that just sounds super cool
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 20, 2009, 06:44:14 PM
Rich, youre awesome. I agree wid ja.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: DinosaurNothlit on September 20, 2009, 10:41:31 PM
While I'm really glad that people like the ranking system I came up with, it was just something I thought of that we could use in the event that the current system was thrown out altogether.  Like, if the current system was going to be replaced anyway, I might as well have a hand in the system that replaces it, you know?  But I still have to side with Richard on this.  I really like the system we have.  If nobody else has a problem with it, I say keep it the way it is.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Homiegee on September 20, 2009, 11:00:39 PM
I voted "No" as it's never bugged me or anything. I can understand why some people may take offense to it, but it's just a forum rank.

If it must be changed, DN's ranks are as good as the ones we have now, plus they're Animorphs-related too.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 21, 2009, 08:52:54 AM
That I like, I really wish Richard would voice his opinion on all this though.
My opinion: If I had a problem with the ranks as they are, I would have changed them ;)

If it ain't broken..

AGREED!

I am strongly against changing all of the ranks. We have had these ranks since the beginning (with some MINOR changes here and there), and I would hate to see them changed after so long.

Also, changing the ranks to the Animorphs ones seems kinda "amateur" if that is the right word. What I mean is that if someone created an Animorphs forum and was a HUGE animorphs fanatic, themed ranks would be expected. (I was a member of a harry potter one way back when and that was the case. very annoying)

Just my opinion again. Change only the God rank please, don't change them all.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Ash on September 21, 2009, 09:41:09 AM
That I like, I really wish Richard would voice his opinion on all this though.
My opinion: If I had a problem with the ranks as they are, I would have changed them ;)

If it ain't broken..

AGREED!

I am strongly against changing all of the ranks. We have had these ranks since the beginning (with some MINOR changes here and there), and I would hate to see them changed after so long.

Also, changing the ranks to the Animorphs ones seems kinda "amateur" if that is the right word. What I mean is that if someone created an Animorphs forum and was a HUGE animorphs fanatic, themed ranks would be expected. (I was a member of a harry potter one way back when and that was the case. very annoying)

Just my opinion again. Change only the God rank please, don't change them all.

I agree with you there, Adam. I like the rest of the ranks.. I'm just a bit queasy about the 'god' one. But I guess, since I'll never get to it, I'll just shut up about it.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 21, 2009, 11:28:52 AM
completely agree.

i don't really want to change all the ranks either. it was simply a suggestion.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: ninaTHEninja on September 21, 2009, 11:49:44 AM
Yes, Animorphs themed would be sweet! But i think it'd just be confusing for a bit, and we have to remember this is Richard's Animorph's Forum, so it is his decision to change the ranks, and if he decides that its a great idea and changes it, well than lets go for it!
But like he said, he would have changed it by now..

Also, "God" doesn't necessarily bother me, but i know it offends some people, so to courtesy of them, i'd say, yes. Lets change it. Even though i said no on the poll. Sometimes a little change is good.. But a drastic change.. no.

(Oh also, Richard, if you decide to go with Animorphs themed Positions, I'd definitely keep Staff, Gold members, Donators and banned positions the same)

Thanks just my opinion.  :P
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Venom on September 23, 2009, 10:32:17 AM
i think the fact that ONE person let alone the 9 who have voiced their opinions think that the god position should be changed is enough.

If it personally offends people it should not be kept, this may be Richard's Animorphs Forum, but its for all of us
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 23, 2009, 10:37:11 AM
i think the fact that ONE person let alone the 9 who have voiced their opinions think that the god position should be changed is enough.

If it personally offends people it should not be kept, this may be Richard's Animorphs Forum, but its for all of us

Very well worded. +1
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 10:38:27 AM
Eh i guess. Im just nervous about it.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Richard on September 23, 2009, 01:06:58 PM
i think the fact that ONE person let alone the 9 who have voiced their opinions think that the god position should be changed is enough.

If it personally offends people it should not be kept, this may be Richard's Animorphs Forum, but its for all of us
Indeed. But If one out of 1400+ had a problem with the new rank, then we should change it again?

How about the one person that doesn't like the background color; change it then?

I prefer to look at the issue holistically, on a more democratic level. Currently 60% of those voted do not have a problem with it. That's a majority. One person isn't a majority... Neither is 9 (in this case).

While I have no problem with changing the rank (to Elite), I have to be shown that it (God) is broken.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: ninaTHEninja on September 23, 2009, 01:22:40 PM
I think Richard makes a good point.. If one person doesn't like the colour of the forum, would we vote to change that too?
I think just because this is based on a touchy subject of religion, yes, i think it should be changed... But Any other problems like colours of the forum and that type of nonsense, should just be chosen by Richard.
Even though some people says it doesn't bother them, some people are highly religious, or anti-religious or just believe in a religion that "god" may be awkward or offensive, so i think it just for that sake, it should be changed.

(p.s: are we able to change our vote now?)

Or the Poll should Say:
Should we change it?
Yes I think it should
No, I don't care
It doesn't bother me, but i think we should

(P.P.S: I like Elite, i think its appropriate)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Slushie Man on September 23, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
I don't see the problem. It's no different then playing a video game and being so good that you get the rank of God. or playing Doom and such with Godmode on.

Seriously, people just shouldn't be so uptight about something like that.

Quote
If it personally offends people it should not be kept

In that case, nothing on Earth should exist. Everything offends someone.

This thread offends me, therefore it should not exist. There.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Richard on September 23, 2009, 01:58:25 PM
This thread offends me, therefore it should not exist. There.
+1
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 23, 2009, 04:08:10 PM
well then at least the people who have an issue with the title god should be able to change it to something that doesn't offend them as much
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Richard on September 23, 2009, 04:27:00 PM
You can. Just PM a Staff.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 23, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
well then at least the people who have an issue with the title god should be able to change it to something that doesn't offend them as much

This is what other members have done in the past, one of the more notable ones is Estelore, who has changed her ranking to "Star."

That brings me to my other note: If we change it, will members such as Estelore be required to have their ranking changed back as well (since it would no longer offend them)? I would think this would be a good Idea so that people don't start asking for theirs to be changed.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: ninaTHEninja on September 23, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
I would think this would be a good Idea so that people don't start asking for theirs to be changed.
What happens if someone wanted to change their position back to God?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 23, 2009, 05:41:18 PM
pm the staff. so i will, once i think of what else to make my name be
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Darth Revan on September 23, 2009, 06:35:44 PM
I think that the rank should be left alone.

It's not saying that you are God, it's saying you are a god of posting.

If someone has an issue with it, then it's up to them to have it changed.

It's like saying I'm offended at toilet humor, I'm going to have South Park discontinued.

If you don't like it, change it yourself. Don't force everyone else who likes, in my case loves, that rank.

I would be offended if I was forced to be demoted to Elite if I was previously a god.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 07:09:55 PM
What Rich, Slushie, and Spartan are saying.  Is basically what I'm saying.  :D
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 23, 2009, 07:26:36 PM
if u are A god, the g is lowercased. when u ARE God, the g is uppercase. that is the issue here
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Slushie Man on September 23, 2009, 07:28:03 PM
Not necessarily. If the word 'god' is by itself, or at the front of a sentence, then by all rules of proper punctuation in the English language, it must be capitalized.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 23, 2009, 07:29:47 PM
yes but usually u specify if it is another god in that case. u normall would not say something like "God is the ruler of greece, his name is Zeus".

you'd say it like "Zeus, the greek god is the ruler"

whatever u get the point and yes i know that sentence is lame
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Slushie Man on September 23, 2009, 07:32:41 PM
Yes, but this word 'god' is not in a sentence, therefore your point is moot. It's by itself, therefore, going by proper punctuation, it has to be capitalized.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 07:49:57 PM
Yeah it just looks weird lower case.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 23, 2009, 07:57:32 PM
That brings me to my other note: If we change it, will members such as Estelore be required to have their ranking changed back as well (since it would no longer offend them)? I would think this would be a good Idea so that people don't start asking for theirs to be changed.

no.
if we changed 'God' to 'Elite', then all the members with 'God' as their rank would take on the new one.

estel could stay as a star. :P
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 07:58:43 PM
That brings me to my other note: If we change it, will members such as Estelore be required to have their ranking changed back as well (since it would no longer offend them)? I would think this would be a good Idea so that people don't start asking for theirs to be changed.

no.
if we changed 'God' to 'Elite', then all the members with 'God' as their rank would take on the new one.

estel could stay as a star. :P

goom knows whats up. XD
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on September 23, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
i think the fact that ONE person let alone the 9 who have voiced their opinions think that the god position should be changed is enough.

If it personally offends people it should not be kept, this may be Richard's Animorphs Forum, but its for all of us
Indeed. But If one out of 1400+ had a problem with the new rank, then we should change it again?

How about the one person that doesn't like the background color; change it then?

I prefer to look at the issue holistically, on a more democratic level. Currently 60% of those voted do not have a problem with it. That's a majority. One person isn't a majority... Neither is 9 (in this case).

While I have no problem with changing the rank (to Elite), I have to be shown that it (God) is broken.

I understand your point here, Rich. However, the background colour - as far as I know - doesn't offend anyone on a religious level. And that's the big thing here, really. While many may dislike things like background colour, and other trivial things, but, those are not RELIGIOUS issues. The post-rank "God" is a religious term, and therefore if it offends anyone on a RELIGIOUS level, it should be changed. I agree completely with Shanker on this issue.

Now, as far as changing all the ranks go, I really like Goom's structure, and DN's.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Slushie Man on September 23, 2009, 08:23:36 PM
Harry Potter also offends many religious people. Should we also delete all posts that deal with Harry Potter?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 08:26:44 PM
Maybe you worship the color blue, and seeing anything pose as your god is blasphemous to you. XD

Hell, animorphs too.  I've seen anti animorphs articles based on the christian religion.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: ThinkAgain on September 23, 2009, 09:16:28 PM
I aspire to become a real god one day.

Becoming one on RAF is the first step.  ;D
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 23, 2009, 09:20:32 PM
What if someone particularly likes the position "God" and once its changed to Elite, or whatever, wants it back? Say Richard gives them the title "God." Would someone else see that as offensive and ask for it to be changed? I personally don't know. But would the admins even allow that? Hmmm...  :D
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 23, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
people (that have mentioned it, at least) are finding it more offensive that their OWN rank is God.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 23, 2009, 09:26:34 PM
people (that have mentioned it, at least) are finding it more offensive that their OWN rank is God.

Well then why upset the whole forum, when those specific people can get their own ranks changed and end it there? Geez.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 09:27:18 PM
Yeah its never been an issued that other people are ranked God, as far as I know.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 23, 2009, 09:31:02 PM
how about this:

a. create a rank called 'Elite' with the same powers as a 'God'
b. at any given point, a member with the 'God' rank may request a change to 'Elite' (via pm to staff) or visa versa

this way we can do away with other rank requests. (too many ranks can be confusing for newer members)
any members with a custom rank already may keep it. ('Star' ;))
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 09:32:11 PM
Awesome Idea, thats the end of it for me.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 23, 2009, 09:37:43 PM
how about this:

a. create a rank called 'Elite' with the same powers as a 'God'
b. at any given point, a member with the 'God' rank may request a change to 'Elite' (via pm to staff) or visa versa

this way we can do away with other rank requests. (too many ranks can be confusing for newer members)
any members with a custom rank already may keep it. ('Star' ;))

So this is it? No more complaints? I hope so. This should meet everyone's needs. Rich should make a tweet, and a new blog post should be made, so that everyone can know (maybe a whole update on what the rankings are and the abilities/permissions). I could do it if you wish! lol
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 23, 2009, 09:38:24 PM
Kaaaay. Do it.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 23, 2009, 09:39:03 PM
it is done. check estrid's rank (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7).
any members with the God rank who wish to change to this one may pm me or another staff member.
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: estrid on September 23, 2009, 09:44:13 PM
oh mine is elite now! sweet ^-^
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: adamjared on September 23, 2009, 10:05:08 PM
Blog post created. (http://blog.animorphsforum.com/2009/09/new-member-position.html)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on September 24, 2009, 12:29:10 PM
people (that have mentioned it, at least) are finding it more offensive that their OWN rank is God.

Well then why upset the whole forum, when those specific people can get their own ranks changed and end it there? Geez.

'Swhat I did. Donated so it wouldn't ever get to that point. ;D
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Darth Revan on September 24, 2009, 01:53:16 PM
Yay! The voice of the people has been heard, and the offended are appeased!

(Hopefully...)
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 24, 2009, 02:00:10 PM
Yeah, hopefully XD
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: Coal Kropotkin on September 24, 2009, 05:24:09 PM
I is appeaseded. ;D
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: SuperBlue on September 24, 2009, 08:22:34 PM
Maybe you worship the color blue


And why wouldn't you?
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: esplin on September 24, 2009, 08:27:15 PM
Excatly :p
Title: Re: The posting rank God.
Post by: goom on September 27, 2009, 02:02:09 PM
so.. now that this thread is resolved, feel free to post here if you'd like your God rank changed.
(or pm, i don't  care either way.)