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Title: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Gafrash on April 14, 2009, 12:07:31 AM
Wanted to hear people's opinion, on was whether they would like to see an Animorphs Graphic Novel based on a record of the teenagers in the 90's (like it was portrayed in the book series) OR if they would rather see a more contemporary one (call it 'revamped', if you will) with 'updated' stuff, where we see the equivalent replacements at work.

A contemporary work would mean that The Invasion would have started NOW DAYS, as opposed to a decade ago. And it would make the Andalite X Yeerk war virtually a decade longer.
For example; things like technology would change. Instead of a blocky-monitor the characters would have being using an LCD-screen monitor on their CPUs; instead of a SNES or 64, they would have been using a PS3 or Xbox or something different. The Anis would be more 'switched on' on online stuff. Rachel would use a proper hair-straightener and even be wearing more updated fashion.

I do understand that you would lose a few elements that made us connect so much with the series. BUT, if a new Graphic Novel series is going to be made, wouldn't something more fresh and recent add something new to the series, too?!
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 14, 2009, 01:50:25 AM
i reckon that it should be around half way between the 90's and today (think around 2000/2005)
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Dameg on April 14, 2009, 01:52:51 AM
It's a good point, and better to answer this important question before you go too far in the story...
But I can't choose. Both ideas are cool. I'd like to see how would be the story if it'd happen now, but I also like to remember the "good old days" lol
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 14, 2009, 01:54:15 AM
thats a god point dameg, but i still stand by what i said just before...
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Gafrash on April 14, 2009, 02:30:26 AM
I think the war finished around the turn of the Millenium. See, this was another nice touch to the series.
I too am unsure, to be honest. As much as I like seeing how we can interpret the info given in the books, I do lean towards seeing stuff that is 'the same, done with a "new" thing' to it. I wouldn't want to see just a repeat.
It's a tricky one.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 14, 2009, 04:51:13 AM
hmm yanno i really dont know... also, wasn't there a reference to the twin towers in one of the books?
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Dameg on April 14, 2009, 06:12:37 AM
I understand you, Gafrash. And you too, Hunter.
About the "finished around the Millennium" thing, if you mean that many people talked about the "end of the World", you can change that and take the end (or in fact the "big change") announced in 2012 :P And then the story should begin now.
You also can decide that the war of the Animorphs is longer. For example they begin to fight when they're 12 years old, near 1999 for example, then they fight until they're near university, so until they're about 19 years old (with the beginning in 1999, the end would be 2006). So more things can change, you also can have fun with the side stories at school or with friends-who-aren't-Animorphs... See, if you wanna change a little the story for the comics (and it's a good idea, I think!), you can do it in many ways. You also can create you own little side stories or take some funny things from the best fanfictions...

About the twin towers, I'm not sure... Wasn't it the Empire State Building? ^^'

PS: Gafrash, did you add your species in the thread http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,2154.0.html (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,2154.0.html)? Because there are still a "unknown" Yeerk...
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 14, 2009, 07:35:38 AM
I understand you, Gafrash. And you too, Hunter.
About the "finished around the Millennium" thing, if you mean that many people talked about the "end of the World", you can change that and take the end (or in fact the "big change") announced in 2012 :P And then the story should begin now.
You also can decide that the war of the Animorphs is longer. For example they begin to fight when they're 12 years old, near 1999 for example, then they fight until they're near university, so until they're about 19 years old (with the beginning in 1999, the end would be 2006). So more things can change, you also can have fun with the side stories at school or with friends-who-aren't-Animorphs... See, if you wanna change a little the story for the comics (and it's a good idea, I think!), you can do it in many ways. You also can create you own little side stories or take some funny things from the best fanfictions...

About the twin towers, I'm not sure... Wasn't it the Empire State Building? ^^'

PS: Gafrash, did you add your species in the thread http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,2154.0.html (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,2154.0.html)? Because there are still a "unknown" Yeerk...

ya know, thats actually a really good idea, changing the story like that... and when (this is just an idea) the comic date reaches (sorry if this offends anyone) september 11, you can have the animorphs theorise that the attacks were yeerk organised... (just an idea is all *cringes in fear of being smote/smitten*)
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Dameg on April 14, 2009, 08:27:39 AM
Yeah! why not! True, you can use the things who happened the last decade in the story ^^
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: ThinkAgain on April 14, 2009, 01:34:04 PM
I don't know... One of the best things I get out of re-reading animorphs is the the nostalgia, and I'd like that to stay.

In other words, I'd like to keep it in the original timeframe.

One thing that made me laugh upon a recent re-read... I can't remember what book, but Ax and Marco were talking about internet speeds. Macro says that his internet has a speed of 16k bits, or something like that. Ax says something like, "Thousands? Not even millions?" and now, I can download at about 2mb/s (which is 2 million bits) on a good server.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 14, 2009, 07:40:35 PM
no, i think he said it was 56k or somethin like that... (man i hate 56k...)
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Gafrash on April 15, 2009, 02:33:56 AM
I don't know... One of the best things I get out of re-reading animorphs is the the nostalgia, and I'd like that to stay....
See, I parlty feel this way, too.
It's a valid point because the artist wants to evoke feelings (such as nostalgia) through his/her visuals. BUT Animorphs is such a narrative drama series. HOW does an artist make an Animorphs comic if not scratching some of the wordy stuff out?

The reason I am leaning towards more contemporary stuff because it would be The Animorphs with a new refreshing spin to it. BUT NOT a comic book that runs parallel to it, slave to its description.

About the "finished around the Millennium" thing, if you mean that many people talked about the "end of the World", you can change that and take the end (or in fact the "big change") announced in 2012 :P...
You guys have grasped what I was alluding to, in terms of the whole fear of the ending of the Millenium. It did go with the whole uncertainty of how the war would end on Earth, didn't it?!
And, yes, I too have heard plenty about December 2012... There's a similar 'feel', isn't there?!

...You also can decide that the war of the Animorphs is longer. For example they begin to fight when they're 12 years old, near 1999 for example, then they fight until they're near university, so until they're about 19 years old (with the beginning in 1999, the end would be 2006). So more things can change, you also can have fun with the side stories at school or with friends-who-aren't-Animorphs... See, if you wanna change a little the story for the comics (and it's a good idea, I think!), you can do it in many ways. You also can create you own little side stories or take some funny things from the best fanfictions...
See these are the decisions that need to be meticulously made prior to sitting down and producing the work.
3 years felt like it was too little, but when you think about it it's actually not.
To make it 10 years long, opens up a whole new world of ideas to play with, which is good, but can also side-track us from the main thing. Next thing we know we'll be changing the ending...  ::) ::)which wouldn't be a bad idea...:o :o :o I DID NOT SAY THAT!!! :o :o :o


...ya know, thats actually a really good idea, changing the story like that... and when (this is just an idea) the comic date reaches (sorry if this offends anyone) september 11, you can have the animorphs theorise that the attacks were yeerk organised... (just an idea is all *cringes in fear of being smote/smitten*)
I am uncertain with the Twin Towers reference in the series.
A plot based on recent incidents, such as the Two Towers Terrorist attack, could be a good premise, but highly unlikely we could create a story based on such a taboo thing so soon. HOWEVER, through artistic license, a writer can generate a similar incident in the story to 'stand for' the Two Towers. There's no rules against that?!


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...PS: Gafrash, did you add your species in the thread http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,2154.0.html (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,2154.0.html)? Because there are still a "unknown" Yeerk...
Hmmm.... Look out for a Hork-Bajir-Controller. But should I be under Yeerk or Animorphs species?!?!?!? "Nghaaaaaarrrrrgh me confused right now." ;D
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Dameg on April 15, 2009, 04:05:09 AM
PS: You should be under "Yeerk". Because Animorphs species is about "other species", and your body doesn't really count.

Please don't change too much the end, or at least don't make it a happy end!
If 10 years is too much, why not 5 or 6? It's between "longer so you can have more ideas" and "short like the true story"...
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 15, 2009, 04:18:42 AM
i think about the twin towers reference is when they are booted into the future by the (non)meddler, they say something about it being the main earth based kandrona generator... (or something like that)
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Gafrash on April 15, 2009, 05:28:35 AM
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Dameg, we can hardly change the end when we haven't done anything... We're just discussing options here.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Dameg on April 15, 2009, 10:17:31 AM
lol I know ^^ But I already say my opinion about changing the end :P
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: rossabo on April 27, 2009, 04:06:24 AM
I think that the Animorphs should always be set in the 90's. One of the reasons is because Rachel is a "valley girl," and valley girls were extremely common in the 90's. Nowadays, while the malls are still popular, they don't have the same cultural importance that they did in the 90's. Maybe it's due to recent recessions/wars/online shopping.

Most importantly, the 90's as a whole makes for an ironic contrast to the alien invasion theme. Despite how I may look back upon the 90's as a more pleasant time due to nostalgia, it still seems like the 90's were a more upbeat time in general. They didn't have all of the "fear tactics" that were introduced since 9/11, and we weren't in any wars. So it makes it more ironic that, while people think that they're completely safe and that life is going great, there is an entire alien invasion happening (literally) beneath their feet.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: SuperBlue on April 27, 2009, 05:32:57 AM
well seeing as the 90's werent too different from now. You could go either way without hearing any fan complaints. I think you should revamp it
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Gafrash on April 27, 2009, 06:04:20 AM
It's a good point, rossabo, about the mall culture (I still don't quite know what 'valley' girls are) and that 'false sense of security' of the 90's. Yeah, they are part of that decade, and were portrayed well through the series.
But some things really haven't changed now days... I, too, reckon the 90's aren't that much different from what we have now days. Not like, say, in comparison to the 70's.
I think, an Animorphs comic could get away with having, for example, Marco typing away on a computer with flatscreen instead of those bulgie monitors; or Rachel listening to a slick-CD-player, but not an IPOD.
I've got mixed feelings.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Hunter on April 27, 2009, 06:45:22 AM
i reckon that you could get away with changing somethings, like Marco's monitor and yeah, rachel with a diskman... but not everything
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: rossabo on April 27, 2009, 10:42:12 AM
It's a good point, rossabo, about the mall culture (I still don't quite know what 'valley' girls are) and that 'false sense of security' of the 90's.
If you don't know what valley-girls are, you should watch the 1995 movie, "clueless."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFR9TNsByLk

Another point to think about is that I'm sure most of the viewers are going to be nostalgia lovers who google Animorphs after remembering their childhood and hopefully finding the webcomic through the search engine.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Shock on April 27, 2009, 10:44:25 AM
the biggest impact on Animorphs in the 00s is the 9-11 and aftermath of that.

Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Cloudbreaker on February 05, 2010, 01:28:09 AM
I always thought it would be better to have the story set at the present time.  That was one of the things I liked most about the series.  The sense that the invasion was happening in the world you are living in.  To me, having it take place a decade ago would make it seem more like just a story and less like an unseen event that you had top secret information about.

That's my thoughts anyway.
Title: Re: Debate: 90's X Contemporary?
Post by: Gafrash on February 08, 2010, 10:32:58 PM
Again, a valid point too.
Should a visual storytelling of the Animorphs series be the whole 'Secret Invasion' feel which would evoke the same feelings we had when we read the series or a faithful 'Nostalgic record' of the 90's?!?!?