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Title: what is karma
Post by: esplin on May 31, 2008, 11:48:01 PM
? and what do you do with it?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on May 31, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
It's a system where one rates a user's posts. Applaud is to add Karma, Smite is to remove Karma. How it's set up now is that it displays your total karma, that is applauds minus your smites.

A few additions to the Karma system.

When you create a topic you get one Karma.

You can see who has the most Karma on the Stats Page (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?action=stats)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: esplin on May 31, 2008, 11:55:43 PM
ah intresting
thats pretty cool i guess
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on May 31, 2008, 11:57:21 PM
It is. We can use it to pin-point problem members. Also there is a 1 hour wait on giving or removing Karma for members. Not staff.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: esplin on May 31, 2008, 11:59:58 PM
sounds like that would be pretty useful for when the real forum comes back
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on June 01, 2008, 12:01:37 AM
Except it's not an option over on Conforums.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 01, 2008, 12:16:43 AM
ah that's lame. I like this karma thingy.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Nateosaurus on June 02, 2008, 07:56:50 AM
Uh oh, I smited Richard!  :o


Don't worry, I applauded back. hey whats wrong with you guys, I'm still on O
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Shock on June 02, 2008, 08:12:46 AM
i have seen Karma on other forums and you need to get rid of it.

it's too much of a subject of abuse
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 02, 2008, 09:20:24 AM
ah but I like the karma thingy... it's cool.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: esplin on June 02, 2008, 11:25:04 AM
i dont feel people on raf would abuse it, atleast the people i know.  but i guess it could be abused.  i tried to give claire some karma today but it said i have to wait an hour to do it again, can the staff not give it out more? or are we just not be affected by it.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 02, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
just gave you karma esplin! yay for you!

I like the karma thingy. don't get rid of it!!
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Venom on June 02, 2008, 03:52:52 PM
i dont get it, how do you give or take karma? its not giving me any such option that i can see
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 02, 2008, 03:59:51 PM
theres applaud or smite
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Essam 293 on June 02, 2008, 04:24:39 PM
I smite you all. Grrr.

... kidding, kidding. Nothin' but love baby. *peace sign* ;)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on June 02, 2008, 04:47:14 PM
i dont get it, how do you give or take karma? its not giving me any such option that i can see
Newbies can't smite or applaud. Just post once more...
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Venom on June 02, 2008, 05:34:09 PM
pff thats ridiculous, im not going to post one more time 
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Toominator Z on June 02, 2008, 05:36:44 PM
Lolz. I would applaud that, but I'm still a newbie. Haha.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 02, 2008, 06:07:07 PM
lol I did applaud it.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on June 03, 2008, 10:53:04 AM
A few additions to the Karma system.

When you create a topic you get one Karma.

You can see who has the most Karma on the Stats Page (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?action=stats)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 03, 2008, 10:56:28 AM
oh that's pretty cool. hehe your awesome Rich. Must take a lot of time getting all this set up. ;D
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on June 03, 2008, 10:59:34 AM
oh that's pretty cool. hehe your awesome Rich. Must take a lot of time getting all this set up. ;D

Not really. I'm actually dreading getting down to the nitty gritty of things (theme editing etc). Which will have to come in time.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 10, 2008, 05:00:55 PM
Hmmmn. I have 7 smites. I wonder what caused THAT.

Ah, well!

Love me, love my weirdness!
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 10, 2008, 05:07:28 PM
yeah well have 8 smites and only 16 applauds
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 10, 2008, 05:24:37 PM
umm... I've got 2. damn I need to try harder. ;D
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on June 10, 2008, 07:34:18 PM
Karma is a sweet, sticky, light-brown colored candy. Oh, wait, that's caramel...

I don't know if I've been smote/smitten/smited. Grr, Estelore has me gramatically confused now...

Anyway, thanks Rich!
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 11, 2008, 09:49:14 PM
I now have 12 smites.


How in Hell?!?!


I feel that perhaps someone is systematically removing all my applauds, until I only have those that result from starting many topics.


Grrrrrrr.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Venom on June 11, 2008, 09:56:14 PM
you get karma for starting topics?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 11, 2008, 10:02:16 PM
Yeah.

Drats. Now everyone wanting Karma will be trying to outdo my topic-starting record. Phooey.

That ISN'T why I started them, of course, but I know how people think.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Essam 293 on June 12, 2008, 12:09:33 AM
Where do you see all of your applauds or smites? Or are you guys just guessing?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 12, 2008, 04:18:13 AM
it's on the stats page:

http://animorphsforum.com/forum/?action=stats

I now have 12 smites.


How in Hell?!?!


I feel that perhaps someone is systematically removing all my applauds, until I only have those that result from starting many topics.


Grrrrrrr.

wow. now you only have one less smite than stormrider. third is me with 8 smites still.

I can guarantee, I didn't smite you estelore.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 12, 2008, 09:43:17 AM
Thanks, Morfowt. :)

I've never smitten you, either.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Tyler on June 12, 2008, 10:01:13 AM
I'd NEVER smite you my love :)

In fact...

*applause*
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 12, 2008, 10:04:51 AM
Aww, gee! Thanks!

*applause*
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Venom on June 12, 2008, 03:10:52 PM
*SMITE*

jks
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 12, 2008, 03:19:14 PM
Hey, I just applauded you, so be nice!
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on June 12, 2008, 03:21:40 PM
I love applauding people! *applauds everyone on this page*
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 12, 2008, 03:24:13 PM
Thanks! *applauds her back*


I now have 13 bad Karma. WHY?!? How on EARTH did I end up at the top of the BAD list AND second in the GOOD list?

I feel so confused. :confused24: :crazy2: :droolfactor10:
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Venom on June 12, 2008, 03:24:28 PM
YAY!!
+1
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 12, 2008, 04:56:14 PM
Now I am at the top of BOTH lists. Wow. :o

I'm doubly confused, too.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: esplin on June 14, 2008, 03:47:40 PM
i guess people ethier love or hate your posts :]
i kinda think it would be sweet to have alot of smites lol

you know rattle peoples cages ;]
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 14, 2008, 07:40:22 PM
actually being at the top of the good karma is probably because you started a lot of topics. being at the top of the bad karma...people just smote you that much.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 14, 2008, 11:34:42 PM
I've done the math, and I still have a massive amount of Good Karma, even without all the topics.
Whew.


So, where is all the Bad coming from? Seriously! I'm not sure if I'm flattered (that someone has cared enough to go out of their way to be mad at me) or insulted (that someone has gone out of their way to be mad at me).


Both. Definitely both.
 >:( +  ;D =  ^-^


Edit: Now I even trump StormRider for Bad! What is going on?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 15, 2008, 12:37:36 AM
yikes. don't we think stormrider is another venom in disguise? having more smites than him...that's kinda said.

I better be careful. I'm only 6 away from stormrider.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Venom on June 15, 2008, 12:39:07 AM
lol dont worry about smites, they mean absolutely nothing in the long run of life (please dont smite me)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 15, 2008, 01:12:03 AM
I won't smite you. Just the opposite. I'm gonna applaud you. You're so right.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on June 15, 2008, 01:26:53 AM
Some people see this karma thing as a silly game. They'll smite someone just because they don't agree with them. And they'll aplaud someone for liking the same TV shows. Just remember that if someone smites you, it doesn't mean anything. It's very silly and childish to care about something so unimportant. Not that any of you are childish or immature. You are all most definitely silly, though.  :P
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 15, 2008, 01:41:42 AM
and in my case, crazy, weird, and an idiot.

oh and I'm also childish soemtimes
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on June 15, 2008, 01:45:19 AM
Ah, everyone is, sometimes. Adults are just afraid to admit it most of the time.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 15, 2008, 01:17:29 PM
Yah, I know that it is childish. That is what makes it so irritating, actually.
Ah, well. :)

I'll live. ;D
What doesn't kill me, gives me more evidence in my favour on Judgment Day.

(Please don't give me any of that 'makes me stronger' shnitzel. Quadraplegics aren't dead, but they sure as Hell en't stronger, either. There are a few in my family, and I know that from what they've told me, so I'm not being totally callous and insensitive.)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Tyler on June 15, 2008, 03:12:50 PM
Maybe it means stronger in character lovey?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on June 15, 2008, 07:04:42 PM
Heaven knows.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: esplin on June 26, 2008, 12:41:06 AM
one question for everyone here on this forum.

Does anyone actually use this, I seem to see that everyone had almost atleast one karma point, but I myself have only ever applauded something once, and that was my first day on the forum.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 26, 2008, 01:47:00 AM
I seldom use it. although sometimes if I don't like a post I'll smite it, but only happens like once.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Essam 293 on June 26, 2008, 02:12:42 AM
one question for everyone here on this forum.

Does anyone actually use this, I seem to see that everyone had almost atleast one karma point, but I myself have only ever applauded something once, and that was my first day on the forum.

If someone writes out something thoughtful, funny, or anything that makes it standout in anyway, then I usually give a positive karma point.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Nateosaurus on June 26, 2008, 05:37:06 AM

If someone writes out something thoughtful, funny, or anything that makes it standout in anyway, then I usually give a positive karma point.

Yea thats kinda what I do.. but sometimes I randomly applaude everyone on the page I'm looking at.. :P

Which is what I did just then..
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on June 26, 2008, 06:15:24 AM
oh, that explains why I suddenly have another karma point
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: esplin on June 26, 2008, 12:28:52 PM

If someone writes out something thoughtful, funny, or anything that makes it standout in anyway, then I usually give a positive karma point.

we should applaud each other every hour and take over this karma thing with the higest karma ever!


Yea thats kinda what I do.. but sometimes I randomly applaude everyone on the page I'm looking at.. :P

Which is what I did just then..
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on June 26, 2008, 08:32:39 PM
Sometimes I use it. If someone says or does something nice, I give them an applaud. If someone says something that's rude or unnecessary, I give them a smite.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 17, 2008, 11:13:26 PM
hey, este, you're no longer at the top of the bad karma list. That title belongs to me now (not that I'm exactly proud of it)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on July 17, 2008, 11:17:45 PM
hey, este, you're no longer at the top of the bad karma list. That title belongs to me now (not that I'm exactly proud of it)
Well, at least you're still in positive territory.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on July 17, 2008, 11:42:50 PM
Aww poor morf. I'm gonna applaud you. Coz your pretty awesome, dunno why someone would wanna smite ya so much.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on July 17, 2008, 11:45:38 PM
I know why. It's because of his honesty and his ability to speak his opinion without the worry of what others think. In my opinion, that's a good thing.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on July 17, 2008, 11:47:40 PM
Yeah, I always thought that was a good thing... unless your opinion is wrong. Hehe jk.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 17, 2008, 11:51:33 PM
hey, este, you're no longer at the top of the bad karma list. That title belongs to me now (not that I'm exactly proud of it)
Well, at least you're still in positive territory.

only because I started 17 topics.

thanks you guys. I think I'll applaud you.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Essam 293 on July 18, 2008, 01:59:59 AM
I dunno, I'd say Yorick has it the worst right now. He(?) has started 18 topics, and has 19 bad karma, bringing the total back down to 0.

Ouch.

Can't say I didn't see it coming though. :P
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 18, 2008, 02:17:05 AM
um...no he only has 18 bad karma, which mean before anna just gave me a karma point, we were in the same boat.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Nomad Frog on July 18, 2008, 10:59:20 AM
if you're not on the top ten lists, is there any way to check your own karma and see how many times (not who, just how many) people have smitten you and applauded you, other than just the grand total?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Phoenix004 on July 18, 2008, 11:01:24 AM
I don't really check the stats page much, so I only just noticed that I'm in the Top Ten Posters! I know it makes no difference at all, I just thought it was cool!  8)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Nomad Frog on July 18, 2008, 11:02:35 AM
haha, congrats, phoenix
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on July 18, 2008, 11:03:55 AM
if you're not on the top ten lists, is there any way to check your own karma and see how many times (not who, just how many) people have smitten you and applauded you, other than just the grand total?
There isn't. Staff members can though. So you could ask one of us to have a look.

You haven't been smited by the way
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Nomad Frog on July 18, 2008, 11:08:01 AM
Wow, I'm in shock...  Thanks Richard!
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on July 18, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
Ya know, I'm tempted to smite Jen just because she hasn't been smited yet lol. But I won't.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on July 18, 2008, 11:28:44 AM
In the future I may implement a system where if you applaud or smite someone it comes from your count..  That should be fun.

But then again, persons may become afraid to give/take points...
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on July 18, 2008, 11:35:43 AM
It would come from your own karma count? So then if you applaud someone you'd be giving them one of you karma points?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on July 18, 2008, 11:47:51 AM
It would come from your own karma count? So then if you applaud someone you'd be giving them one of you karma points?
Right.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Nomad Frog on July 18, 2008, 11:49:15 AM
Ya know, I'm tempted to smite Jen just because she hasn't been smited yet lol. But I won't.

Gee thanks :P  Lol, kidding

In the future I may implement a system where if you applaud or smite someone it comes from your count..  That should be fun.

But then again, persons may become afraid to give/take points...
It would come from your own karma count? So then if you applaud someone you'd be giving them one of you karma points?

I think that'd be a fun idea
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on July 18, 2008, 11:51:28 AM
Yeah it would be. But then when you smite someone would it add to your count?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on July 18, 2008, 11:53:09 AM
Yeah it would be. But then when you smite someone would it add to your count?
No, it will be removed also.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: RYTX on July 18, 2008, 11:55:17 AM
Weak, that limits my ability to smite
and I like smiting
It makes me feel like a big man
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: ANna on July 18, 2008, 11:57:52 AM
Yeah it would be. But then when you smite someone would it add to your count?
No, it will be removed also.
Awww. :( :P

Haha Rob. I'm gonna applaud you coz that was funny. And coz your awesomely sextastic.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 18, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
hey, I'm no longer at the top. Someone smote este, so now she's at the top again.

and richard, to applaud we have to give our own? that sounds stupid to me. Applaud is a nice thing to do, so shouldn't we get a karma point as a sort of mini-reward instead of losing a karma point?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on July 18, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
So, wait... If you smite someone, does that mean you lose one of your smites?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 18, 2008, 07:47:01 PM
no you lose one of your own karma points
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on July 18, 2008, 07:48:18 PM
Okay, so giving karma in any way makes you lose a point?
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 18, 2008, 07:49:01 PM
yep
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on July 18, 2008, 07:49:34 PM
Then people would be discouraged to use the karma system.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 18, 2008, 07:52:48 PM
yep.

I don't think they should be discouraged to use the system, rather discouraged to smite.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Qwerty the Charliecorn on July 18, 2008, 07:55:09 PM
Yeah. I think it should add to your amount of smites to smite someone, but have no effect if you applaud.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 18, 2008, 07:56:59 PM
nah, I think you should get a karma point if you applaud...although that might get out of hand...I change my mind. I agree with charlie now.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Essam 293 on July 19, 2008, 12:37:17 AM
Your Karma points shouldn't be affected either positively or negatively for rating someone else. It should affect them, not you. It completely takes away the whole point of the rating system.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on July 19, 2008, 06:52:45 AM
ok, now yorick is worse off. He's got 39 bad karma; even more than este, although I'd say he got it coming for him, yelling at phoenix...well maybe not really yelling.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Phoenix004 on July 19, 2008, 11:37:40 AM
Personally, I think we should just keep the Karma system how it is. It's easier that way. Besides, I think if we changed it then people would be discouraged from applauding.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Richard on July 19, 2008, 11:44:29 AM
Personally, I think we should just keep the Karma system how it is. It's easier that way. Besides, I think if we changed it then people would be discouraged from applauding.
Yeah.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on July 19, 2008, 04:41:06 PM
My opinion, not terribly important:

Keep the applaud factor normal (no penalty), but make smiting someone an act that demands real consideration. Perhaps make it so that smiting takes away one or two of your own points.

Reasoning:

1. If someone is SERIOUSLY having an impossible time finding his/her niche here (in other words, if they are royally pi**ing everyone off and making NO friends), it would be immediately obvious to them and to anyone in contact with them. They might even consider changing their habits.

2. Anyone smiting someone else would have to have a MAJOR reason for wanting to do it (I KNOW that we can report stuff to the mods, but sometimes we'd rather not have to go QUITE that far, if another avenue can peaceably be taken), so nobody would just randomly and pettily smite someone who may or may not have had it coming.


Honestly, I've gotten to the point that I don't mind even remotely that I spent quite a while on the top  of the Bad-Karma list, since common concensus appears to state that I am generally liked.
Mostly, I'm flattered by the attention that someone has committed to being mad at me. ;)

However, if the situation were such that I were a newbie here, those gut-shots would be a serious kick to my online self-esteem, and I'd probably reconsider my choice of forum.

Because of this, I have a suggestion (might not be possible, but worth suggesting).
Maybe make it so that we would 'lose' more points if we smote someone who was a newbie (really, anything less than 100 posts, else they're not terribly well-known), and fewer if we smite a 'veteran' RAFian, who has been here long enough that they can roll with it.
People would be less likely to smite a kid who doesn't realise his/her mistakes the way another of us would. They'd probably just gently give him/her a 'hint' as to how they should behave in a civilized place like RAF, instead of smiting them, because it wouldn't cost them anything.

Happy all around, more-or-less.

Anywhodle, that's my suggestion, take it or leave it. :)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Kelran-Isthinar on August 02, 2008, 11:28:07 PM
Sounds like an excellent idea to me. With the current system I could just repeatedly smite anyone I happened to dislike if I were a rude sort of person, and say someone with nothing better to do decided to make an account, make some posts, and smite everyone repeatedly until banned.

I'm biased though as for no reason that I can immediately discern I have been 'smitten'. twice.  ::) (I actually find it amusing)

It doesn't really worry me, I don't believe in a system like this that makes peoples opinions overly public, and subsequently I will allow my actions to speak for me and ignore my own Karma and everyone elses.....

But the fact that I acumulate 2 negative points before I get to know anyone or even become involved in something controversial (which I usually inevitably do at some point :P ) should be cause for a double-take as its possible it is a symptom of deeper issues with the system, or a single unkown entity abusing the system.
Not necessarily, for all I know and for all my experience and for all the times I have re-checked my posts its possible I made an error I havent noticed. But if not....

Think about it, think about what Estelore said, and think about the fact that if someone can smite anonymously with no reprecussions whatsoever, all it takes is one person to be a wolf in sheep's morph, or one person to be having a bad day to throw the systems purpose out of alignment.  :-\

Now to play devil's advocate, in a perfect universe the system allows people to know when they are generaly overstepping their bounds, and it allows people to anonymously give people a nudge. The system has pros and cons, and like any system the biggest cons have to have checks and balances somewhere.
Another con is that I could look at someone who is on the top of the bad Karma list and assume they are a jerk, but they might have been a good friend if I hadnt leapt to a conclusion.
Another pro is that I could carefully evaluate a persons Karma against examples of their posts and conversations with them to give me an extra variable in forming opinions.
Pros and cons.

Its particularly curious as I have been a part of many social groups, many of them web forums, and have some experience with this sort of thing (this is the only place I have seen it work), and having checked and rechecked my posts the worst negativity I've recieved in the few days I've been here was being told I accidently repeated something someone else said in a thread.  :P hardly cause for being *gasp* smitten.

Like I said, it doesnt phase me, but this is a sterling example of my innate instinct to become involved in a debate and make a 'thesis' post out of it even if I care very little for the topic or have no stake in it.  :P   ;D
Its also an excellent insight into the ridiculously complex matrix of relationships and emotions that is a community.

EDIT; having looked at the top bad and good karma list and leafed through some posts of those members, (which by no means constitues a full steady of this system or those people) I find it most intriguing that several people are on *both* lists.
This either means that;
A; they're controversial people, the sort of people you either like or dislike no gray areas (possible),
B; that they suffer from severe bi-polar (unlikely)
C; that there are three kinds of people here, people who get judged, people who judge smitingly and people who applaud alot, (also possible)
D; that there are other variables I havent seen yet that create other possiblities. (most likely)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on August 05, 2008, 11:18:43 PM
I doubt it's C or B.

Edit: did you remember to add in how many topics the person started to your equation? cuz you get one karma point for each topic you start.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: wotw2112 on August 27, 2008, 10:22:09 PM
My opinion, not terribly important:

Keep the applaud factor normal (no penalty), but make smiting someone an act that demands real consideration. Perhaps make it so that smiting takes away one or two of your own points.

However, if the situation were such that I were a newbie here, those gut-shots would be a serious kick to my online self-esteem, and I'd probably reconsider my choice of forum.


I agree.  I was trying really hard to get my karma up and had gotten as high as 9 before someone went on a smiting rampage against me after he attacked me (a person who has only like 50 posts too)!  I've considered quiting this place a few times today out of sheer frustration and still haven't ruled the possibility out (despite the fact that most of you are awesome people). 

Smiting needs to be controlled more closely (if reasonably possible).
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Estelore on August 28, 2008, 06:24:50 AM
Well, for starters, Wotw, we LIKE HAVING YOU HERE, so please do not leave. You're amusing.  :)

Second...TRYING to get your Karma up? Well, jeez, it isn't THAT big a deal [says the chick with too much Karma anyway], but I gave you a point for free. Happy Un-Birthday. ;)
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: wotw2112 on August 28, 2008, 09:28:04 AM
Well, for starters, Wotw, we LIKE HAVING YOU HERE, so please do not leave. You're amusing.  :)

Second...TRYING to get your Karma up? Well, jeez, it isn't THAT big a deal [says the chick with too much Karma anyway], but I gave you a point for free. Happy Un-Birthday. ;)

Lol, I assume being amusing is a good thing... (however I'm well aware that monkeys at the zoo are considered "amusing" too...)

Thanks, but I kinda feel like that's a stolen one.  Wasn't looking for pity so much as venting.  But thanks anyway.  ;D

We'll see if this situation resolves itself...
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Liz on August 29, 2008, 12:22:00 AM
EDIT; having looked at the top bad and good karma list and leafed through some posts of those members, (which by no means constitues a full steady of this system or those people) I find it most intriguing that several people are on *both* lists.
This either means that;
A; they're controversial people, the sort of people you either like or dislike no gray areas (possible),
B; that they suffer from severe bi-polar (unlikely)
C; that there are three kinds of people here, people who get judged, people who judge smitingly and people who applaud alot, (also possible)
D; that there are other variables I havent seen yet that create other possiblities. (most likely)

I keep hearing about this good karma/bad karma list and I can't find it anywhere.  Can someone link me, pretty please??  :-\

As for people being on both lists, I think there are probably many controversial people here.
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: morfowt on August 29, 2008, 01:06:20 AM
http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?action=stats
Title: Re: what is karma
Post by: Liz on August 29, 2008, 02:22:53 AM
Merci beaucoup!!  :)

Wow, some very interesting statistics there.