Tobias controller

[cams]

If Tobias became a controller in his usual bird form, there wouldn't be much complications besides the fact that the entire humanity would soon be enslaved.
But what happens if Tobias became a controller in his human morph? The Yeerk would have to soon demorph to avoid being a nothlit, but could it?
Tobias is morphed so he would be (forced) demorphing. But the Yeerk isn't morphed, so it would be morphing into....  bird brain matter?
Or is the Yeerk demorphing without being in morph in the first place?
Would the Yeerk get it's own 2 hour limit while Tobias doesn't?
I'm so confused. 

[Alic]

I don't think it would be a problem. And forgive me for this spoiler, I'm on mobile and can't use one, but
[spoiler]when jake was a controller his yeerk didn't have a problem morphing[/spoiler]

goom's edit: fixed it for ya

[Chad32]

I assume when someone morphs, the Yeerk gets taken to Z-Space. I guess when Tobias demorphed, the Yeerk may be pushed into Z-Space too, but I don't know how long it could just stay in there.

Then again, if the Yeerk doesn't go into Z-Space I don't know if it could control the hawk mind or would even fit inside the skull. Yeerks can't just go into any creature. They can't go into sharks without some alterations, though they can go into horses.

[Red]

They can flatten themselves out pretty well though, right?

[Chad32]

Yes, but a bird's head is so much smaller than a Human's or other sentients. There's only so much you can compress something. Like folding a piece of paper in half. At some point you just can't fold it anymore.

[LisaCharly]

I always just assumed that the Yeerk shrinks with them like the morphing suit.

[Chad32]

I don't know. It's an interesting question, I think.

[MoppingBear]

I don't think it would be a problem. And forgive me for this spoiler, I'm on mobile and can't use one, but
[spoiler]when jake was a controller his yeerk didn't have a problem morphing[/spoiler]

goom's edit: fixed it for ya

Right, but that's where the difference between morphing and demorphing comes in.  It's an interesting question, and the only hint to what would happen that I can think of is the fact that Tobias still has a morphing suit which works as expected, so the Yeerk should reform as well.  The fact that a Yeerk is a sentient creature probably makes a difference though

[Myitt]

I agree with Chad...the Yeerks simply gets extruded into z-space along with the rest of the human body.  If stuck in morph, the Yeerk will be in his head forever, but unable to physically leave and not physically present, without Kandrina restrictions.  It's in the series, people.

[Chad32]

That is in the series? I thought it was fanon, actually.

[Myitt]

It's stated that anything extremely close to the body will morph out its mass into z-space.  How much closer can you get than a Yeerk?

[Chad32]

I'm not so much concerned about the morphing, as I am about the Yeerk being in Z-Space for weeks or months or years. Would the Yeerk be able to remain thta way, or would it need to morph Human or something every three days to feed properly?

[Myitt]

Just like how Tobias's human body, while its mass is in z-space, doesn't have to eat--nor does any other morph while the morpher hasn't morphed it, for that matter--the Yeerk would not have to feed.  Its biological necessities would be in stasis, even though its mind would still be active, just like how Tobias can still be Tobias even though his body is a hawk's. 

What would happen if someone pregnant was stuck as a nothlit? o.O  Stasis-baby for ever?  That's kinda sad, actually...

[Chad32]

Ah, but do we know what exactly happens to the mass after the two hour time limit? Maybe you get stuck because the mass is dead, or because it gets dissipated or something. I'm afraid the Yeerk's mass wouldn't be safe up there, and about two hours may be the only safe window before it gets compromised. 

[MoppingBear]

Ah, but do we know what exactly happens to the mass after the two hour time limit? Maybe you get stuck because the mass is dead, or because it gets dissipated or something. I'm afraid the Yeerk's mass wouldn't be safe up there, and about two hours may be the only safe window before it gets compromised. 

we do know what happens in the case of a nothlit, the link remains. in the final books its implied that some yeerks are purposely getting trapped and living the rest of their lives in freedom.  but again, tobias is a special case due to it being a demorph not a morph, so its hard to say.